Scobey & Daniels County Board Recordings
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Agenda for today's meeting, I'd going to entertain a motion to adopt.

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I'll move. Second.

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Okay, motion made and seconded.

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Seeing the usual suspects here.

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No need to jockey anything around.

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Any corrections, changes, additions from the council?

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Hearing none, all those in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye.

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Okay, next is the agenda from...

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excuse me, the minutes from the July 23rd meeting.

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I did entertain a motion to approve.

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I'll move that. Second.

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Okay, motion made and seconded.

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Any additions, deletions,

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Corrections?

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Okay, hearing none, all those in favor?

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Aye. Aye. Aye. Okay.

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Public comment.

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We had some written correspondence.

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Probably going to not take any action on it.

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I think we've all seen

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this individual scooting around town on his little motorized buggy

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and a valid concern I don't think removing gravel

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off the streets.

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Moving all the rocks on the gravel streets would be the best course of action.

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Might spur a sidewalk

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in the future conversation for streets that

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are only gravel with no sidewalk or anything.

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Public works, do you have an opinion on this?

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Should we or should we not remove the gravel from the gravel streets?

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If you want mud streets or gravel streets, I guess.

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You need to have the gravel on there or you're not going to have a street.

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Okay, well, no action need to be taken.

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There's just public comment, it's not an agenda item.

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But like I said, maybe it'll help spur some

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thought for some future growth, repairs, upgrades.

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And who knows, maybe there's some money

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out there for making some of these

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non-handicap accessible streets more handicap accessible.

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There's money out there for a lot of things.

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Usually there's A.D.A money for a lot of things.

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That won't be the worst thing in the world to maybe

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investigate a little bit.

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Moving on,

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Tammy, any comments. I got plenty but I'll keep them to myself.

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Appreciate that.

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Pool manager reports, Steve, quick update on

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status of the pool. As far as I'm aware, they're open until the 25th.

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And I believe it's regular hours up until the 18th.

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And then it's going to be night swim only.

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Okay.

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I think it was a fairly

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un-eventful year for the pool.

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Didn't have any major breakdowns or issues.

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All the mechanical stuff seemed to run as it should.

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When the power went out, some things didn't get

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reset when they should have, which affected chlorine levels

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and what not. But would that happen two or three times

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that I was aware of? At least twice.

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Of course it's on a weekend when

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everybody's gone and you don't realize there's

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an issue until Monday morning at lap swim.

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The water looks green.

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How come I don't hear anything?

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The 100 decibel

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wurring of the pump that constantly runs.

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Okay, public works.

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So, a couple things.

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I'm sure we can talk about another one

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later, but we need to look at purchasing

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our easement to our pivot.

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Because I don't feel like we should have to give

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24-hour notice for us to access our land

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through the easement.

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Isn't that what an easement is?

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We don't have to have permission to use an easement.

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The terms of the easement that were negotiated

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said 24 hours notice, which we can talk about that, Steve, but I think

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you've already done what you need to do

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for quite a while. Yeah, we're good till the end of the season at least.

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It's something that we should investigate

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in doing further down the road or something.

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Another thing, I was approached by an individual

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that lives on the outskirts of town, wondering if

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the city would possibly do garbage pickup for him.

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It's within a mile

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of town. They don't have any other city services, but

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they would like our pickup rather than the county pickup.

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What direction is the town?

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East. East of the football field.

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It's actually south of the football field, or north of the football field.

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I believe

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it's because they got their bills from the county yesterday for garbage pickup.

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So we already

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got the wolf trower and wolf. But they're on city water.

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That's the thing. We don't provide any other services

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to them, but they were interested in

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paying for our garbage service.

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But it cannot there. We pick them once a week.

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Which I discussed

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with a commissioner at the time, and I said,

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the best way to do this is, they got that big dumpster up there.

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They buy three more big dumpsters and put it in Flaxville.

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Four mutes. And just not even haul garbage with that little truck.

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And then come to the city and be like, hey, we're not hauling

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the little cans anymore. Can you guys provide service to these people

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in the outskirts of town?

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And then the county would save money because they wouldn't be picking them little cans anymore.

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So you mean they would just get the big

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big ones? They would roll the big roll up ones? Yep, the big roll up ones.

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So they'd pull into four mutes and load up the one all day and bring it back.

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Because if they go over there with their little truck, pick the garbage, take it

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to their dump station, dump it, push it in the can, and then load it up.

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So they can haul it twice or much. Because every time you touch garbage, it's expensive.

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So they could possibly eliminate a truck that they may not

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need? Eliminate a truck and all those cans. I'm sure they could sell them cans to another

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place that uses them. And then, you know, we could haul

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these people that are just within a mile of town or whatever.

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You know, the vet clinic, the airport, little subdivision out there.

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I mean, but it would take some work from the county.

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But on top of that,

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this person is wondering if we could do it now.

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So would it burden

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you in any way? No. We'd do it to add to our route.

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So it'd be a once a week pickup? That's what he's, once a week would be

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fine with him, he said. So he'd have his own block dump?

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Yep, his own 300 would go pick it.

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Are our charges

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that much different from the county? We charge

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what, around 30 bucks a week?

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For a weekly pickup, it's 30 bucks a month. The bills came out for the county

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if you want your garbage picked. Once a week, it's $100

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a month. Twice a week is $50

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a month. Or twice a month is $50 a month.

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So north of Theven's

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Auto Body? No, it's Steven's Auto Body.

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Oh, so it's a commercial account?

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Yeah. I was thinking Neil Holm, I guess.

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No, that's what I actually do.

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So the commissioner doesn't like the way it accounts.

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That's when I have

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the conversation with the commissioner about

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the way the dumpsters work, the way that they're doing that landfill

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deal. I mean,

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he's smart for asking, it only makes sense.

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And that's when, like I said, when I got into

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the conversation with him about getting roll offs in those other three locations,

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I mean... Did the county just change their garbage groups?

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I knew they were going up some

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because they were trying to finance this

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situation they got going.

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And he says sometimes they don't get picked, sometimes they get picked.

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Yeah.

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Okay, personally I just got this in the mail yesterday.

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Okay.

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And I don't know if the landfill

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board has ever discussed not picking those little cans,

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and just get the big dumpsters for the different locations, but...

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That's how Glasgow works. There's, you know, Valley County.

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They have TNR Truckee coming to pick roll offs up in O'Pime and Richland.

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Well, I have a square one, but it's a little one.

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Well, I talked to Mike Lund about this, and

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I don't know if he quite understood what I was saying, but basically,

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because we've talked about this before, and said, why don't you guys buy more

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of those big cans and seven forbutes, Blacksville,

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or else they have them set, and get rid of that truck. And he didn't

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seem to think it was, you know, a

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good idea, but again, I'm not sure if we were on the same

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page, different, same...

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So just on a personal interest, of course, could you explain to me the difference between the cans that are

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there already and what you're proposing? Are they the same thing? You just want more of them,

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or are they bigger? Do you mean like in other locations? Like in

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more, you said something like more in Blacksville?

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So what it is, is what they're going to do is they're building that dock up there,

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and there's a big roll-off can that goes in there. It's bigger than what I said.

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It's bigger that's there, and you pick it with a truck and it rolls up on the back of a truck,

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and it becomes a truck body. So instead of having those little cans

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in Blacksville, you build more can holders like you

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got at the transfer station, and more of those big roll-off cans,

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and you just put it in there, and people just come and throw it in the big can,

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and then you come with your truck, pick the big can, and go right to Plentywood with it.

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Do you need the transfer station setup?

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I know the other ones have just big hills, big mounds of dirt

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there that you just drive up and throw in there. Yeah, because I think those

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transfer stations, I think they're $350,000 or something

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like that to build, so that's probably why.

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You wouldn't need a transfer station with a big can. Not a big transfer station.

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You can buy just those retaining blocks and set them up and fill them up with dirt.

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What about all these restrictions

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on garbage, and I think the theory

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with the transfer station is that they'll have to control

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other garbage that isn't supposed to be in there.

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I think that's maybe... I don't think

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they'll dump their can and then sort through it and push it in the dumpsters.

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I don't see that happening. Well, I think that's the theory behind it. I agree that

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it probably won't happen, but I think that that's...

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I think the risk is they're going to see a chemical jug that just happened to float its way up on top,

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and then they're going to turn it around and shut us down from all garbage.

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That is what would happen.

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I think we need to look into that one option.

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I don't know.

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That's how mostly smaller communities do their...

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Big Sandy does it. Valley County does all their...

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Tri-County landfill does all theirs that way.

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In my mind, it's not that much different than having the dumpster

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exchanging it for a roll-off dumpster rather than a dumpster dumpster.

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They're about the same height, so if you're throwing garbage in them, it's not that much higher to throw garbage in them.

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It's not like you have to have a ramp to get above the dumpster.

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Because there's no ramp in Flaxville.

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Why couldn't you just throw your garbage over the edge of the dumpster?

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They used to have ramps all the way up to theirs, and then

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a guy was dumpster diving and fell in and sued the county.

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They just put it up, so it's only four feet up, so the dumpster sits right here

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instead of right at ground level.

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We had a few stations in Gallican County, and she backed her car up to it

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and drove all the way into the dumpster. It didn't stop in time.

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But there's a lot of...

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Yeah, you don't have to build a massive one like we got out here.

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I think this is the last meeting, but what I remember from the previous meeting

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is there were discussions to possibly

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go that way in the future and get those roll-offs

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for Butte's peerless Flaxville area.

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And the discussion was just that. That's what Glasgow does and other

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neighboring.

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You're eliminating one truck and all those cans. I mean, maintenance

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on garbage trucks isn't cheap. And you can pick it once life.

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Yeah, you're cutting out the middle part of dumping it

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here and then pushing it in another can. Yeah, because they could just haul it

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at that point, right? Just pick it and haul it.

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Okay, cool. Thanks. I appreciate that.

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Yeah, I'm not opposed to adding

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Steven Autobody to our route. If it does not affect

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our current, you know, if it doesn't add any extra stress

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to our... We drive by there anyways, you know. Basically

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we drive by the football field to get Matt

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and Chris right there. Jim?

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Mark, yeah. Mark, yeah.

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Sure. When we only pick her once a week, so we just, before you pick her, you just go to

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Stevens and come back. And then, I mean, we could put the option out there

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for those other people that are there. Maybe they want it.

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So it'd be a commercial account, would he get two cans, a cardboard and more?

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He only wants one. Okay. It's for household.

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It's for cardboard is what he's looking for. Okay.

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It'd be about the same as we picked from Bernie's

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Autobody. Okay. It'd be the same type of garbage that Bernie Autobody has.

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So do we need to make some kind of a decision on

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the distance around the city limits that we'll pick?

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Well, that's one thing I wonder. We should come up with some sort of like, you know,

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no more than a mile or no more than whatever, you know. Yeah.

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We'll drive up to Willys probably. I mean, that's three miles out. Yeah, I'm just thinking

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because if somebody else sees it, they're like, well, can you have a deal for me?

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Well, that's why I brought it. It's not on the agenda, so we can't make a decision on it.

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Yeah. But, you know. Well, because in that, maybe we had Neil

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Holm, Sonia, you know, go the other direction,

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you know, I don't know. Yeah. Go to the there or whatever, you know.

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Yeah. The border patrol enabled us. I mean, it's...

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Like you say, it's not that much. I mean, I wouldn't

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consider it any more wear and tear on the truck. No, you know.

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It's right on the edge of town. I just think maybe we need to make

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some sort of a resolution stating how far out of the city limits

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would go. So that everybody on the edge of town has the same

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option. And it's best to do that before you include

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one person. Yeah. That's right. I don't want that argument.

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Well, that's why you're doing this for him and you want to bring it up for us.

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Ben, do you have an opinion on this? No. You don't need me here anymore.

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Because that was going to be my... Just have the policy. Everybody

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the same. Broken record over here. Like, if you're not...

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You want a one mile radius crate. You want a half mile radius crate. Whatever

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it is, but draw the line and stick to it.

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Well, Sonia, how far is your house from the

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edge of town? She's within a mile.

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What's your address, Sonia? I don't know. 69.

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She's 0.69 miles away from the post office.

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So I would say just a mile from

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the post office. You could just use that. Nelson's property

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is exactly one mile out of town. Yeah, because then you got

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Nelson. I would do a mile from City Limits.

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You just set a limit somewhere. Yeah, a mile from the edge of the city.

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Yeah, a mile from City Limits.

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How far is Neiman from

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the post office? Oh, but Neiman's in City Limits.

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They're not a mile. They're not in City Limits yet.

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Yeah, I think a mile.

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So upcoming agenda item.

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We don't have to put a carrying on that. We can just do a resolution, right?

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We'll do it.

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I don't know if we should talk to the county.

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It might be easier to watch a little bit.

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Maybe me and Steve can meet with Mike Thieve and get his

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report. He wants to do, I mean that's kind of two birds with one stone there.

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He wants the service and he's a commissioner. He should hopefully be able to give us

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the climate of the commission.

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But at least then he can bring it back to them.

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So maybe that's where we start. Yeah, my thought on the rates is as long as you're not in,

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if we increase the rates or set a special rate for those out of town accounts

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then we probably would have to jump through the same hoops that we do

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charges. But if we're just expanding the territory in which

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we're offering the same rates that we've already set then we probably

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don't have to go through hearing. But I can double check on that.

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So does county pick Hansells and

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Rouse and Fisher? No.

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Rouse just takes this to his business and Hansells just takes theirs to carriers.

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It's always says water and sewer or it says garbage.

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I wasn't even sure if I should

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include those tax liens. Yeah, I

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know for a fact other towns do that.

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And not just looking elsewhere.

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It would be all end all but at least we're not the only ones.

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You never want to be the only one.

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Somebody's going to sue you.

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It's always nice to have friends. They did it first and they've been

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doing it and it's been okay. Well some of us all did it.

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Some indication of the third.

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You can probably get away with it.

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Okay, we'll definitely look into that.

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I think Michael will be here tomorrow. We can talk to him tomorrow.

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If that works for me.

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Any other public works?

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Anyone have any questions for the public works

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supervisor?

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Alright, let's move on to zoning.

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Big public hearing tomorrow.

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See if people want to put RD parts in residential.

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I've been hearing senses so far that I haven't heard

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I've asked a few people, they're against it.

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Have you guys been hearing any?

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That's difficult because nobody says anything unless they're against it.

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I don't have any sense of where the proposed site is.

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You know where the other RV park is right over there?

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It's on the south edge of town.

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The southeast corner.

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So here's the thing, it's not just to put an RV park there.

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It's to add additional use in the whole residential district.

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Which is most of town.

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And we're back to the dollar store talk.

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They didn't want it in the entire town

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but they wanted us to change the description of an entire area.

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Rather than just allow a single person to do a certain

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thing with a particular lot. Usually when I explain the conditional use part of it

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then people back down a little bit.

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We can set rules we don't want an RV park on a single lot.

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So and you can

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revolt conditional use right?

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I believe so right man?

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Yeah but it is problematic because

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what are the conditions put on the one?

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You can't again draw things willy nilly.

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If it was allowed on A, B and C conditions here

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then it probably would have to be. If I was advising them

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then you got to let them do it here too.

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And so it's not strictly location.

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The location really comes into it as long as they've got enough space.

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Even in a situation like Paul Reaver it's a lot right on Main Street

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that he doesn't take care of. That's what I was thinking.

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Something like that where he's not standing up to his end of the bargain.

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On that situation there.

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I don't know if you have a good question.

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Say if you're a condition like one down here you could RV park on the corner

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of your first park. Do you want an RV park there?

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He's got officials walk there and then Kitty Corner or Librarians tour down

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Ames House.

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Start stacking them in there like Cordwood.

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So that's the road.

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And that's my view of it. Like you said Steve you could have it anywhere.

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I mean yeah you can put conditions on it.

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If you have a single lot you can only have two.

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But you still want that right there.

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Is this a work around

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for the limited seasonal rental

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business that we put limits on?

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I think they're just looking for a use for their empty lot.

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You can park right across the street from their empty lot.

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That's what I think it is. And you can't just change the zoning

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of that one lot because that's spot zoning and you can't do that.

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And actually we have RV park

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in our definitions but it's not included in any zone whatsoever.

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And that may have been by design.

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I'm sure it was.

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We had a lot of room to begin with.

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Throw in a whole area.

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We were doing that zoning. We were worried about the oil field.

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Taking RV parks out of the areas.

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We'll hear the arguments.

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That particular spot.

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If you had to stick it somewhere that wouldn't be the worst place.

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That's what I'd say too.

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But there was a house on there before.

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It's not like it's always been a vacant lot.

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And it's not going to improve our tax base.

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It's not going to improve our tax base versus what residential is intended.

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Putting houses in and we get better tax base out of that.

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Then you're going to get on the RV lot.

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Well, we'll see what happens tomorrow.

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Anything else for zoning?

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We don't have any.

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Just on the radar that we're going to be replacing a member.

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Because he officially sold this house no longer.

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Owns a residence.

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Okay.

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Who bought it?

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They're from out of town. She is a grant writer.

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Oh, so not your best friends?

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I don't know if Tammy beat me to her yet.

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But no, she has her own business.

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She does it. She charges on the back end.

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She'll take a commission after the grant's been awarded.

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You can charge more.

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But then the person coming to you for your service,

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they don't lose anything if you don't get the grant.

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And you're out your time.

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And I would pay more for the guarantee all day long.

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Then your interests are aligned.

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So I visited with her a couple of times already.

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Anyway, I'll keep an eye on the rest of that.

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Because I want to keep visiting with her.

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She has some ideas.

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Moving on though. Fire chief report.

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Why it shot me a text at 844.

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And it said it could make it. The only thing I have is our SCBA tanks.

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And cascade systems being serviced on the 28th.

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So I don't know what the cost is for that.

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Is that an annual thing?

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Yeah, it has to be me expecting each time.

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Okay.

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And now it's working. Let's keep it working.

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Yeah, forever it didn't work.

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So that's all from the fire chief.

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And the sheriff's report.

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Oh, last month there was, I think there was like

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173 incidents. This last month that included

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anywhere from fires to missing people.

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DUIs.

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As far as the office is concerned,

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Rex will be leaving for Academy Day.

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He'll be gone for three months.

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End of the month, we'll travel to Helena

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for the kind of senior operator on our top laser.

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So that we can keep it up to date.

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Instead of having different counties come in and push

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two buttons to scan a card.

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And then as far as

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our radio's go, Motorola LVA

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here the 29th.

29:50

28th or 29th this month to do a walkthrough

29:54

and sit down and

29:58

discuss basically the new consoles that are going to get put in.

30:02

I think they're coming in November.

30:06

I don't want to censure off the check on the time frame that they're coming in, but

30:10

they just want to see Motorola wants to see the setup

30:14

that we have so they can put the equipment in properly.

30:18

And then there's our glorious accident

30:22

I had over the last week.

30:26

The vehicle is up there, the even auto body.

30:30

The status on that one, I'm not 100% sure on

30:34

when the repairs will start or if the vehicle is even going to go through it.

30:38

I think they're still waiting on insurance companies.

30:42

But not the anatomy.

30:46

It's got a vehicle and $1,500 is breaking down and so is the crown bit.

30:50

Hopefully

30:54

we can get another vehicle.

30:58

Right now we only have the crown bit to transport people.

31:02

Unless I want to transport with two officers

31:06

on a criminal.

31:10

It takes us all out at one time.

31:18

Alright, with that one.

31:22

What do you know from feelings?

31:26

He's supposed to be talking to Christie yesterday to find out.

31:30

Once I got turned into it without my hands

31:34

How long is it to get another replacement for them?

31:38

For the vehicle?

31:42

I'll probably be a year and a half.

31:46

It took a year to get that one.

31:54

I even talked to Stoneman and they're like we have no clue of what we need to do.

31:58

No one's ever been in accident with the Stoneman vehicle.

32:02

It was purchased with Stoneman.

32:06

But it's insured through Daniels County.

32:10

It's just like the $1,500.

32:14

They got total on Main Street twice.

32:18

I have no clue how that even happened.

32:22

They got repaired.

32:26

They started repairing that next week.

32:30

Stoneman hasn't even heard anything about what the status is

32:34

for insurance from either party. But he didn't tell me that all the parts

32:38

are available in Colorado.

32:42

It doesn't matter if you're getting to go ahead and ship them here.

32:46

That's it, the A pillar, the B pillar, and the frame isn't bent.

32:50

Or the A pillar and the C pillar.

32:54

If those got bent, then it's totaled.

32:58

If we consider total. But right now, that's like

33:02

just push the glass and rip the door off and

33:06

destroy the fender.

33:10

That and then I,

33:14

I need to sit down with you at some point in time. Burrell's asking for a press

33:18

release on it. Okay. Lucky me, I've never

33:22

ever had to write anything like that.

33:26

Give me a report and we'll whittle it down from there.

33:30

Sounds good. I know that

33:34

there's basically, there's two different

33:38

agencies and there's the Sheriff's Office reports

33:42

and two different reports, two different high patrol.

33:46

I don't know what their report even looks like.

33:50

Well, we can whittle it down from yours. There is a bunch

33:54

of that information, public records. So, you know, you can get

33:58

what the initial call was, you know, a few other things

34:02

like that. And then as far as the details, we

34:06

get into how much of that we want to release. Okay.

34:10

Have you had that discussion?

34:14

Okay.

34:18

Any other questions, comments for

34:22

Clint?

34:26

Thank you, sir.

34:30

Glad we survived the majority of the summer in the fair.

34:34

The incident.

34:38

All right. Council, comments.

34:42

Let's hear how good we've been doing from the public.

34:52

I haven't had any lately.

34:56

Questions, but sure.

35:00

Clarifications.

35:04

You know, anything I could clarify why we're doing this or

35:08

why we're doing that?

35:12

I walked by on that Sunday

35:16

when they were tearing down the Cozy Cafe

35:20

and an individual who was

35:24

helping to tear down the Cozy Cafe, saw it was me

35:28

and yelled from across the lot. Is this what you wanted?

35:32

Another bowl in the middle of town. Good job.

35:36

So, yeah,

35:40

we didn't even send that guy a letter. Jesper's been wanting to tear that thing down

35:44

for three years, but Arc's been begging him not to.

35:48

So, anyway,

35:52

I've got two conversations with that individual.

36:04

Okay. Here are no other council comments.

36:08

We will go on. So, next item is

36:12

in your packet from Interstate Engineering

36:16

John Bach. It looks like he's

36:20

got basically

36:24

the engineer's info on

36:28

this is pretty much 3rd Avenue.

36:36

I'm not going to read the whole thing to you, but

36:40

they have a plan on what they would need to do there.

36:44

I did reach out to John and say, you know, hey, our priority right now

36:48

is Hospital Street. When will we

36:52

when will we be ready to go?

36:56

So, we can put it out.

37:04

So, I sent him

37:08

a message on last Thursday and he said

37:12

they should be able to get set for bid by the end

37:16

of next week, which would be this week. So, hoping we get

37:20

more info from them because, you know, we're already too

37:24

late to try to get that street fixed for this coming, you know, season.

37:28

So, it's going to be even and whole

37:32

and again, like I did the last few years, I'm afraid.

37:36

But, we're moving

37:40

in the right direction, at least they can't say we're not doing anything here.

37:44

We're trying to fix it the right way one last time.

37:48

Just one time.

37:52

But, yeah, anyway

37:56

we're moving forward with, you know, getting Hospital Street fixed

38:00

and then the 3rd Avenue fixed, which I think will help

38:04

the majority of the drainage issues on 2nd Avenue West.

38:08

So, we'll just keep plugging away.

38:12

Burl, you see where Burl ran an article

38:16

on the paper on that.

38:20

So, I think he must have been, I got the impression

38:24

he must have been catching some plaque on that, so he wanted to run a story

38:28

and I think people were hearing and seeing there was only work being done

38:32

on Council and Mayor Street.

38:36

So, I said

38:40

make sure that your article states that the hospital

38:44

Street is our number one priority for streets to be repaired,

38:48

but we're trying to fix several different drainage issues.

38:52

So, and yeah, it would involve paving a street

38:56

where Council members,

39:00

former and current, have lived.

39:04

So, yeah, and it's a busy street

39:08

as the people who live on the gravel side of it

39:12

know.

39:16

We need to move that 15 mile an hour side of the 3rd Avenue West rather than

39:20

C Street. We need to put about 4 or 15 mile an hour

39:24

on there. I did read reading through John's

39:28

synopsis, I guess, of how they're going to engineer it and how everything laid out

39:32

when he gave us the three options

39:36

for driveways, I guess,

39:40

on the south side of the street over there. I personally

39:44

I believe that the city should foot the bill for fixing the driveway. I mean, we're the ones

39:48

doing, you know, yeah, I don't think we can just tear it up

39:52

and say, well, cheers to fix now, I mean. Yeah, same

39:56

with that sidewalk. Yeah, that's part of the project.

40:00

It shouldn't be just tour up

40:04

and say, now make your driveway work. Yeah, it could make it work.

40:08

Because did we decide the driveways on the north side, like

40:12

yours, Neoprandals, you know, Anderberg going down the line,

40:16

they can work around

40:20

I think that's what it is, elevations, it's because it states in the first paragraph

40:24

that good news, the driveways are higher than the curdle lines.

40:28

In my mind, that means that their elevation is good on the north side of the street.

40:32

Yeah, there's a little bit they got to do over there, but

40:36

like, you know, like Crandall's there, it's gravel up to their driveway, so they can just

40:40

slope that back. And I think yours was pretty close to great anyways.

40:44

Yeah. The biggest two are the Handrens and

40:48

Scots. Yeah. Those are the biggest two, like Handrens.

40:52

Because there's a lot of fill involved on there. Yeah, they're built up a lot. Yeah.

40:56

They got to come down. So those are the two biggest ones. And like

41:00

Flattiger's, you know, he doesn't have concrete all the way out either.

41:04

So his would be gravel fill. And there was going to be a big

41:08

at where that fire hydrant is by the church

41:12

there. That's right in middle where the curb would go around.

41:16

So instead of doing curb returns, we would do a valley gutter

41:20

that comes straight. So then you don't have to do, because you'd be into Eric's

41:24

off-guard and right through that hydrant with curb returns. So you'd just valley gutter

41:28

across the street. Probably just be a valley gutter from Eric's all the way

41:32

down in front of the church, too. Right to El Ravladiker's.

41:36

And then, you know, there's all driveway

41:40

or gravel driveway, so it can all be worked into Mida.

41:44

That's the kind of way I looked at it when you

41:48

are, you know, the way he's describing it. When I went and looked at the cut fill stakes, that's what it looked like to me.

41:52

Yeah, and the stakes are still there. You can see the line on where

41:56

the grid is actually at. And there's some parts of that

42:00

sidewalk they could leave, but the contractor

42:04

would more than likely rather just start fresh than cut.

42:08

Yeah, they're not going to work on that when they're doing curb work. It's easier just to tear it up

42:12

and do it. And I don't know that they could. I mean,

42:16

when you're forming up curbs, you can't really have a sidewalk in the way.

42:20

Yeah.

42:24

Okay, so,

42:28

we're moving forward on that. We'll figure out how to pay for it when the time comes.

42:36

Okay, pivot fence

42:40

and ground. So Steve, do you want to

42:44

Well, DEQ requires us to have our pivot fence

42:48

stop. So we just need a,

42:52

Revert said it would probably be around 20,000 to do it.

42:56

So we just need approval to do it.

43:00

And did he give us a formal

43:04

bid? That's just off the cob.

43:08

Yeah. Okay, so I guess we really don't

43:12

want to make him to look at, but do we just, so we can approve that we move forward

43:16

with hiring Reverts to do the fence?

43:20

So we can, because he's waiting for us, right? Yeah, he said

43:24

he's got a crew in my glass or something. So once they get started, they'd have it done

43:28

within a week. And I think we need to move

43:32

sooner than later with the way this whole situation's going.

43:36

It has not smoothed out since

43:40

we've become owners. I mean, not that we were expecting

43:44

and not that I was expecting it to

43:48

smooth out entirely, but

43:52

okay, so at this point, I guess I would entertain a motion that we

43:56

hire Reverts fencing to build the fence around

44:00

the 80 acres for

44:04

our wastewater pivot lab.

44:08

I make a resolution as per

44:12

DEQ requirement to fence the pivot.

44:16

Okay, our motion made. I'll second.

44:20

Okay, motion made seconded. Any discussion?

44:24

Ben, can you comment? Any?

44:28

It kind of goes without saying, but I'll put it on the record anyway. Please make sure they fence on

44:32

our property. Not ours.

44:36

We don't need that problem. Yeah, I'm the survey stake is still there as of

44:40

last week, so hopefully it's... hopefully he doesn't

44:44

mow it over with his combine. Yeah, alright, that's good, but yep.

44:48

Okay, you have obvious common sense, but yeah, it doesn't hurt to be said.

44:52

Yeah. Okay, any other

44:56

comments? So, is this something new

45:00

that he's trying to enforce now with the easement? Did he call you?

45:04

So, I had a discussion. I don't know, I'm sure

45:08

I have as well, but I had a discussion with his attorney on

45:12

Friday, I think.

45:16

We did get things squared away, but just so everybody's

45:20

clear, part of the negotiation was

45:24

putting in a notice requirement when we're going to be out there.

45:28

Basically, you know, Jonathan wanted to know if we're moving equipment on

45:32

or off or whatever. That can be.

45:36

This is as simple as sending him a text message, which Steve and I had a conversation

45:40

and Steve did. We're going to be out there Monday, Wednesdays, and Fridays

45:44

through the end of irrigation season, turning this pivot on and off.

45:48

Talk to his attorney, that's sufficient, like we don't have to let

45:52

him know every single time, because it seems silly to text him on Monday,

45:56

we're going to be there Tuesday, and text him on Wednesday, we're going to be there Thursday. So, we kind of just

46:00

did a blanket thing. Over communication

46:04

will go a long way. I think we're going to be...

46:08

I don't disagree with you, Steve, that, you know, in a perfect world

46:12

we would have bought that, where that easement goes or something.

46:16

But, quite honestly, the deal that we did was the deal

46:20

we could get done. There wasn't really much, you know,

46:24

fight in it. Text messages pretty minor

46:28

annoyance for now having ownership of that land.

46:32

And, I doubt, I mean, there's like

46:36

a 1% chance that Jonathan would sell that to us at this point.

46:40

And the reason I'm looking, if we end up leasing that, you know, and then we have to let

46:44

that, the person that has our lease, you know, then they got to deal

46:48

with it too. So, yeah. Well, and there might be kicking and screaming.

46:52

The reality of it is, unless there's damages that occur,

46:56

there's really no cause of action

47:00

there. You know, he could sue the city for violating the notice requirement, but

47:04

unless he's got some damages to point to, it's not going to go anywhere.

47:08

That being said, you know, how much headache do

47:12

you want? I mean, I ended up, his attorney and I

47:16

spent however much time talking it over, and I don't want to have to do that once a

47:20

week too, because it's going to get expensive for everybody. We're not going to really accomplish

47:24

anything. So, I think at least for the next,

47:28

well, I mean, we should always comply, but especially for the next

47:32

few months, until we can kind of get through the end of that. If there's any question

47:36

about whether we should be letting them know or not, just err on the side of

47:40

texting him, and then we've done what we need to do. That's, that's my official

47:44

city attorney advice.

47:48

It is annoying. That's just the way it's going to go for a little while.

47:52

Okay.

47:56

So send the text messages. He wasn't going to like it if a

48:00

blanket one wasn't going to cover it, because I was going to have Collins are going

48:04

out at one in the morning and doing that.

48:08

Well, like I said, I think for, we're going to be

48:12

neighbors for a long, long time. So, I think whatever

48:16

we can do to make things go smoothly, that would be a really helpful

48:20

long term.

48:24

So, I believe we still have the motion made and seconded to hire

48:28

Reburts. Any further discussion?

48:32

Okay. Hearing none, all those in favor?

48:36

Okay. I just let Bo know. Steve, if you would please.

48:40

Insanya, just print

48:44

$20,000 with your printer in the back room.

48:48

We'll figure it out as we go. I guess

48:52

which kind of leads us up to Resolution 1106.

48:56

Trying to fund this

49:00

project.

49:04

With raising

49:08

I guess not water and sewer, but sewer rates.

49:12

So, Resolution 1106,

49:16

Resolution and intention to change and increase certain rates, fees, and charges

49:20

for the water utility service and hold

49:24

required public hearings in regards to the same.

49:28

So, not going to read the whole thing. But if you

49:32

go to the next page, you'll see

49:36

I guess with the, while I go to

49:40

the third page, you'll see the current rate and the proposed rate. That's kind of the one

49:44

that I wanted to bring your attention to.

49:48

So, not earth shattering numbers

49:52

you know, 28, 14

49:56

to 29, 55, you know, $1.40

50:00

cents, call it. So,

50:04

for the majority of the

50:08

taxpayers.

50:12

So, this public hearing

50:16

will be one of the ones on the 27th, right?

50:20

So, and this is a 5% increase.

50:24

Yep, this is the third year of the 5% increase. I also kind of agree to

50:28

three years ago. Instead of doing one large increase

50:32

we decided to do

50:36

three years of the 5% from what I remember.

50:40

So, hopefully

50:44

we can not have to keep raising rates.

50:48

Hopefully this way. And we paid off the loan

50:52

so we no longer have to comply with that.

50:56

The RD, the requirements

51:00

non-requirements. So, that helps a little bit.

51:04

So, I have the question for the smart people

51:08

in the room here. When can we put this out

51:12

for bid for some, you know, a neighbor

51:16

to hay it?

51:20

Could we need to at least get that ball rolling?

51:24

Can't do anything this season now except maybe prepare the land.

51:28

You know, it needs to be sprayed and or tilled,

51:32

fist, burned. I mean we can do all of that

51:36

as far as putting the bids

51:40

out for, I guess, Sheridan County

51:44

does that on a few of their properties. And I can't remember if it's in the fall

51:48

or early in the spring when they do that.

51:52

You would think you'd want to do it in the fall so they can prep for spring.

51:56

Because they're going to have to seed it to grass, right? Or are we going to pay for that?

52:00

Well, that's, I don't know

52:04

whether you do it the first couple of years because right now it's weeds that are

52:08

three to four feet tall. And there's nothing there.

52:12

We don't want to go down and have Gringo or Spray it at least until

52:16

he's cut his wheat around it. Because that would be a

52:20

blame.

52:24

I mean, it needs so much

52:28

work, like for the first three years

52:32

it would almost have to be like a free lease

52:36

because of the cost and effort that's going to have to go into

52:40

spraying, disking, seeding, babysitting

52:44

just so it can cut a crop by hopefully the second year.

52:48

Well, that's what I'm wondering if we don't have to foot that bill

52:52

to put it into production, you know what I mean?

52:56

And then pay somebody to pay it to that point.

53:00

Well, I don't think that's

53:04

I think the farmer will, or the rancher, whatever will choose

53:08

what crop they want. But they can only.

53:12

But still, yeah.

53:16

Yeah. So I mean, there's so many

53:20

regulations on what it has to be. I don't know if anybody's going to want to put

53:24

that in. Well, I guess what you could do is

53:28

just put it out and forbid and see if somebody

53:32

just see if there's a taker. Can't you put out for like requests for

53:36

proposals or something and then see what they propose? And maybe the city wants to

53:40

do a three year sort of thing, like we'll lease it to you for three

53:44

years. Yeah, I would think a long term lease would be. Yeah, that's what I'm wondering.

53:48

You can get it back in the fighting shed basically. You'd almost need it

53:52

for multiple years just due to the fact you're going to invest money in it

53:56

for the first couple. But you'll want to make sure

54:00

that, I mean, that there's a way to

54:04

say that if you're not doing this, then you lose that long term option

54:08

because that could be the case as well.

54:12

So yeah, maybe that is what we do. We do that now.

54:16

Do a request for proposal. We have 80 acres available

54:20

of irrigated hay ground.

54:24

With requirements fighting.

54:28

80 acres of irrigated fat.

54:32

The other 20 is none.

54:36

And could they operate the

54:40

irrigation partially? I mean that would be...

54:44

Ideally they would. This year is the first time that we've ever

54:48

turned the pivot on and off. It used to be always turned on by the landowner.

54:52

I don't think

54:56

you'd get some proposal.

55:00

I think there's a couple neighbors that are showing some interest.

55:04

I mean irrigated hay.

55:08

You could stand to get probably three cuttings off that field

55:12

pretty easy if you did it right.

55:16

The one I talked to, he's just getting a second cutting off of his.

55:20

That would be

55:24

determined how soon we could turn it on to...

55:28

Yeah, I mean we used to get three every year.

55:32

We didn't cut the last one low.

55:36

I mean obviously you don't kill it.

55:44

Yeah, let's do that.

55:48

If we can get that RFP

55:52

so we can approve it at the next meeting to put it out.

56:00

Yeah.

56:04

Give Curtis Flattig or something to that guy. Oh I don't think so.

56:08

Scooter. There's plenty of people around here.

56:12

I already sent the text message, don't worry.

56:16

We don't have any equipment for

56:20

60 acres.

56:28

Resolution 1106 will be on the

56:32

agenda for next meeting.

56:36

Is everyone going to be here next meeting? No.

56:40

I'm not going to be here actually. Really?

56:44

I'm just going to work.

56:48

So, what about...

56:52

I've already submitted everything to the paper to advertise for two weeks

56:56

before these public hearings.

57:00

When will you be back? Thursday? Wednesday?

57:04

When is the... I've gone that whole week.

57:08

Could we still hold the hearing even if there's a quorum?

57:12

Well, I guess that's your question for me.

57:16

There's no action taken at the hearing.

57:20

Well, normally we hold the public hearings then later on then they pass the

57:24

resolutions for our budgets. And the only reason why I moved it to August 27th

57:28

is the Department of Revenue was all over me because I was going to do it September 10th.

57:32

No, no, I'm going to be here the next one. I'm sorry. I won't be here September 9th.

57:36

Okay.

57:40

You just took five years off the Sunday.

57:44

I was confused on which meeting we were at, right?

57:48

Normally I always hold the public hearing at the beginning of September, but like I said, they were...

57:52

No, I'll be here the 27th. I won't be here September 9th.

57:56

Worst case scenario, I think we could have held the hearing

58:00

and then just have a special meeting a day or two later

58:04

and approve. Yeah, I guess we could have did that.

58:08

Okay, so Brian, you're still gone?

58:12

I'm here.

58:16

Are there any family emergencies for many of us?

58:20

Yeah. Sorry. I was thinking September already.

58:24

I don't know where the summer went.

58:28

We need a resolution to...

58:32

Did we do a motion to pass this resolution in 1106?

58:36

No. Okay, let's go back.

58:40

I forgot. Okay, so I'll entertain a motion that we

58:44

approve resolution 1106 for the

58:48

increase of the sewer rates.

58:56

I'll make a motion. Okay.

59:00

Okay, motion made second. Any discussion other than what

59:04

we've already discussed?

59:08

Hearing none.

59:12

All those in favor? All right. Okay. Yeah, I wasn't sure if this was just

59:16

an FYI or if we needed to... No, this is the intention. We're letting public know

59:20

of our intentions. Okay.

59:24

Okay. Well, that box is checked.

59:28

Steve, give us this...

59:32

Those notes on the pace.

59:36

Oh, yeah. They were here including the sewers.

59:40

We had them camera spot

59:44

in what is that? Robinson? Robinson. Robinson where people,

59:48

homeowners, have been having trouble with the sewer, so we made sure we cameraed it.

59:52

And the line looked really good. They said it looks great shape.

59:56

There is one hole in it, like 200 feet down.

1:00:00

And they said they could do a point repair on it so they don't have to

1:00:04

dig it up or anything. And that's not bad enough. It has to be done now. We can do it

1:00:08

next year when they're here doing their cleaning.

1:00:12

And it'd be about $5,500. And they just push a piece up there

1:00:16

and a boxy it to the sides. Yeah. So...

1:00:20

It's got to be dry for that to all be gone, right? No.

1:00:24

They do it with this in the water. On use. Yeah, they blow in a piece.

1:00:28

They don't even have to pump it up. It's all pre-pumped on the outside.

1:00:32

You blow it in, you expand it. Well, they would probably stand above it back in it anyway

1:00:36

so there wasn't any flow out, I imagine. Oh, I'm sure.

1:00:40

They'd be at the top side with the vacuum. So there won't be any effect on

1:00:44

the big 690 minutes he says when they're done.

1:00:48

So basically when they come they've got to bring another trailer, another man,

1:00:52

and that's about $5,500 covers and repair.

1:00:56

So they said we can just add it on it next year's cleaning

1:01:00

and they can do it then, okay? But that's the only

1:01:04

trouble we had with... So the folks that were having trouble with Steve,

1:01:08

those are lines from their house to the main. Must be the lines from their house to the main, yeah.

1:01:12

And one of them asked me if Pace could camera theirs, but

1:01:16

that's a 4-inch and Pace can only go down to 6, so

1:01:20

they couldn't camera that line. And he said he would be willing to pay for it if they could.

1:01:24

So... What part of oil was this, Steve?

1:01:28

Robinson. Like Mike Ferris, Finn and Paul

1:01:32

Ronnie Plot. That block right there.

1:01:36

Yeah, it doesn't look very well though.

1:01:40

Yeah, him and Gordy has one, I think. Trevor had a Mack

1:01:44

has one too. Gordy has one, I know. Terry Farver's got one.

1:01:48

Last time JR's

1:01:52

wasn't working when we tried to have him do the pools.

1:01:56

Okay, but

1:02:00

everything else was good. They did definitely the issues. They did definitely a third of

1:02:04

town. They did 10,700 feet or something like

1:02:08

that is what they did. So about a third. We'll do another third next year

1:02:12

and another third of the year after that. Continuing the rotation.

1:02:16

And I should have said it earlier, but DEQ

1:02:20

last year, last week, they did a sewer system inspection

1:02:24

sanitary survey time deal and they asked to make sure we had that

1:02:28

maintenance on them.

1:02:32

Past the client colors? Yeah. Well, there's some trees

1:02:36

at the lagoon we got to tear out. Not to mow, but that's about all.

1:02:40

They'll send a full report for it.

1:02:44

Okay.

1:02:48

That's pace. Okay.

1:02:52

Moving on here. I met with

1:02:56

what's the name? A.J. Smith. I think it was his name. He's kind of

1:03:00

our A.J. Allen. Excuse me. He's our

1:03:04

local tobacco guy. I think he's at Wolf Point, but he does

1:03:08

Phillips County, Daniels County, Roosevelt County, Sheridan County.

1:03:12

Basically not trying to

1:03:16

force us to do anything, but giving us

1:03:20

if we wanted to do certain things.

1:03:24

He's a resource if we needed help

1:03:28

making, like ensuring the park was smoke free,

1:03:32

designating smoking areas, like signage, he can help with that kind

1:03:36

of stuff. Other than that,

1:03:40

I think he was just kind of going through his motions, justifying

1:03:44

his position. Because he's got

1:03:48

his own government car and whatnot. So I had a good meeting

1:03:52

with him. We met right here for about an hour.

1:03:56

So yeah.

1:04:00

I guess that our park is already smoke free, I believe.

1:04:04

100 feet from the pool. It's supposed to be smoke free.

1:04:08

Because he said we were the only pool that actually had signs up, but that

1:04:12

wasn't because we didn't want smoking near kids. It was because of the chemicals.

1:04:16

No. It's all? No. We did it because

1:04:20

the parents or grandparents were standing on the deck smoking during swim lessons.

1:04:24

Oh really? Yeah.

1:04:28

That's not to do with chemicals. Really? Yeah.

1:04:32

When was that? It was right after that pool with Bill Mackie was here

1:04:36

when we did it. I thought they would have to do it with chemicals.

1:04:40

No. They would sit right next to the fence and you could see the smoke just go into the

1:04:44

pool when the kids were out. That's when we did it.

1:04:52

Yeah. And I'm not a tobacco user, but the conservative

1:04:56

in me says if the people who choose to

1:05:00

use tobacco, whether it be Copenhagen

1:05:04

or cigarettes or cigars or whatever, if we did

1:05:08

it as a smoking area in the park, you know, I would

1:05:12

hear the arguments for it, you know, before

1:05:16

I vetoed it down.

1:05:20

But anyway, eventually they'll all be smoke free.

1:05:24

I mean, they did it with the bars and the college campuses and the hospitals.

1:05:28

And he's doing all public areas.

1:05:32

I don't think we need to make that.

1:05:36

We have enough to do with it.

1:05:40

No. We're going to find

1:05:44

reasons to get people mad at us.

1:05:48

Okay. So anyway, that's all that is just an FYI for the council

1:05:52

that he was here.

1:05:56

Yeah. So, moving on.

1:06:00

Preliminary budget.

1:06:04

That hearing. So, we got

1:06:08

starting on page 19 here, notice of budget hearing.

1:06:12

Okay. So we're going to approve this and you can get it to the leader and they're going to run it.

1:06:16

Well, they'll, yeah, they can run it.

1:06:20

They can get it in for the paper to come out tomorrow.

1:06:24

Okay. Okay. So,

1:06:28

well, there's about four pages here.

1:06:32

Notice of budget hearing.

1:06:36

Publish it on the 14th and 28th.

1:06:40

Notice of public hearing for

1:06:44

I can't read that. Oh, the light district.

1:06:48

SID 18, SID 19,

1:06:52

from Mr. Medical Levy, the sewer rate increased and then the budget.

1:06:56

Go back to your first one, Sonia. Notice of budget hearing should be published August 14th

1:07:00

and 21st.

1:07:04

What number that is, August 15th and 22nd

1:07:08

or whatever for the 27th meeting. Okay. Two weeks before

1:07:12

I got it. Okay. Well, let's make sure we'll double check those dates because then the next one says

1:07:16

14th and 21st. The first one says 14th and 28th.

1:07:20

Pearl. Yeah, I'll double check with Pearl.

1:07:24

Because I had to go back and redo everything once I had

1:07:28

couldn't do it on September 10th. Sure.

1:07:32

Okay. And then public hearing for street

1:07:36

maintenance.

1:07:40

And then the medical

1:07:44

the medical levy.

1:07:48

Okay. I had to entertain a motion that we approve

1:07:52

these four, notice of public hearings to be set

1:07:56

to be able to run in the next two

1:08:00

editions of the Dennis County leader and then to be action

1:08:04

taken on on the 27th.

1:08:08

On the

1:08:12

second. Motion seconded. Any

1:08:16

discussion?

1:08:20

Okay. Hearing none, all those in favor?

1:08:24

Okay.

1:08:28

All right. So moving on, we have the

1:08:32

based on the mill

1:08:36

information there. Now this is

1:08:40

do we vote to approve this? This is what we're being told, right?

1:08:44

Well, this is what we're being told, yeah. How many mills we can levy

1:08:48

and what are mills worth?

1:08:52

And we generally levy the max

1:08:56

mills. We have some, yeah.

1:09:00

You don't levy them, you'll lose them. You used to be able to carry them over, but

1:09:04

it worked out very well.

1:09:08

Okay. So do we need to vote to approve this?

1:09:12

I don't know if we've done that in the past, but I mean just make sure council

1:09:16

knows that this is how we came up with our current year

1:09:20

calculated mill levy and what a mill is worth.

1:09:24

So we can levy 266 mills and each

1:09:28

mill is worth $1,160.

1:09:32

For a total of 310,000,

1:09:36

$974 in taxes that everybody paid.

1:09:40

And the next is the

1:09:44

certified taxable value information that they received from their partner revenue.

1:09:48

Those are the numbers we took to get

1:09:52

to fill in on this form to know what our mill levy

1:09:56

is worth and how many we could levy.

1:10:04

We also have the determination of proposed property tax increases.

1:10:08

They came out with this a few years ago. We need to let the public know

1:10:12

how much their taxes are going to increase

1:10:16

for the price of their homes or the value of their homes.

1:10:20

This is a little higher than I thought it was last year. It was like $9, $12

1:10:24

and $15. Now it's $15, $45 and $90.

1:10:28

So there's more increases there.

1:10:32

Those numbers will be included on our budget resolution.

1:10:36

It's about the same numbers as it was last year.

1:10:40

I mean as far I think it was a 305,000 or something.

1:10:44

It stays about the same.

1:10:48

But in our budget we included just about pretty much everybody's

1:10:52

wish list I believe.

1:10:56

We've got the same number.

1:11:00

We've got the same number.

1:11:04

We've got the splash pad in there. We've got the fire hall

1:11:08

growth. We've got the new building updates. We've got the P-E-R's

1:11:12

and the P-A-R's. We've got the share contract. We've got part

1:11:16

equipment. Hospital grant for 25,000.

1:11:20

Purchase of the land because that was in this budget.

1:11:24

This one. A little money for a garbage truck.

1:11:28

Included the study commission.

1:11:32

That's $10,000.

1:11:36

We also did a slight increase on SID-19 which

1:11:40

is our street maintenance. What was my understanding we wanted

1:11:44

to slowly increase that also for all the street projects that are coming up.

1:11:48

So we went from collecting about $165,000 to

1:11:52

approximately $175,000 if we vote to make this

1:11:56

a recent SID-19.

1:12:08

I have my own paper-paper-drock one done

1:12:12

and while you look at it it's impossible to

1:12:16

make it. I'm entering into the

1:12:20

Black Mountain today, yesterday and today.

1:12:24

I have a Black Mountain report printed out for next time.

1:12:28

Does that catch inconsistencies or anything like that?

1:12:32

Well I match it up to my paper copy.

1:12:36

It's easier for me to do it on paper first and then enter

1:12:40

into the computer and then it all has to balance in the end.

1:12:44

It doesn't balance and sums off.

1:12:48

Okay, so does anyone have any

1:12:52

questions? I know this is kind of the

1:12:56

heaviest of heavy hitters that we have.

1:13:00

Insanya does 99.76%

1:13:04

of the work for us.

1:13:08

And she will continue to while she's here.

1:13:12

Yeah, if anybody ever wants to go through it with me they should.

1:13:16

Send people a complaint down to you and you can explain it to them.

1:13:20

That's the biggest thing we're going to get asked is why.

1:13:24

Other than a couple projects trying to finish

1:13:28

there's really no big changes.

1:13:32

And a lot of these

1:13:36

projects are being funded by SLOCA funds, CBBG

1:13:40

grants.

1:13:44

The study commission has a whole separate tax on its own.

1:13:48

How the party voted on that.

1:13:52

Yeah, I've been told that was a huge waste of

1:13:56

tax dollars. How it passed to us beyond them.

1:14:00

This was from a different person than the usual suspects.

1:14:04

Yeah, this one caught me out of the left field.

1:14:08

So speaking of the study commission

1:14:12

did we decide we can appoint or we can't

1:14:16

appoint? I believe we can.

1:14:20

Because if we can't appoint then it's not going to happen.

1:14:24

It's a

1:14:28

Dan Clark question at this point now.

1:14:32

That was my understanding.

1:14:36

If no one files then the body appoints

1:14:44

You're all in total.

1:14:48

Worst case scenario, nobody does it and the money sits there.

1:14:52

That money just rolls into a general fund.

1:14:56

Yesterday.

1:15:00

Is it just one?

1:15:04

Yeah, sorry I jumped it.

1:15:08

Yeah.

1:15:12

Jason Nasty.

1:15:24

Okay, well.

1:15:28

That helps pay for our health insurance.

1:15:32

And that's its own separate deal.

1:15:36

And there's a formula that we do

1:15:40

every year to determine how much we can levy for that also.

1:15:44

And I have to make sure that I get department revenue or department

1:15:48

bad men to review these when I'm done with them to make sure that I didn't

1:15:52

correctly.

1:15:56

Okay.

1:16:00

Thank you for all that time.

1:16:04

So moving on another question.

1:16:08

Before you sign this next notice of tax

1:16:12

liens, you've already turned them in.

1:16:16

Okay.

1:16:20

Okay, so at this time I would entertain a motion

1:16:24

that we approve turning in the tax

1:16:28

liens on the three

1:16:32

listed on the exhibit eight

1:16:36

city court treasurer report there

1:16:40

to the county to be assessed on

1:16:44

their, I guess, county taxes.

1:16:48

I'll move.

1:16:52

One second. Okay, so a motion made seconded.

1:16:56

Is there

1:17:00

any questions, comments,

1:17:04

concerns?

1:17:08

Okay, hearing none, all those in favor?

1:17:12

I am. Okay, sounds good.

1:17:16

Go ahead and sign that. Sonya, is there anything that I need to sign with that as well

1:17:20

or just you? Yes, it's just me.

1:17:24

You wield a mighty power behind you there.

1:17:28

Yeah, so I had to get approved.

1:17:32

I just copied what's out of the county to the city

1:17:36

last for this. Sure.

1:17:40

Okay, moving on, our

1:17:44

computers are five years old.

1:17:48

I replaced my

1:17:52

work computer every two years. The tower, not so much

1:17:56

board monitor, mount all that stuff with the tower. I replaced every two years

1:18:00

because all the

1:18:04

necessary changes, I guess, with

1:18:08

this digital world, but we do ours every five

1:18:12

years, so you'll see a quote in there.

1:18:16

Let's see where

1:18:20

there it is. Okay, so

1:18:24

for $7,663

1:18:28

that's three new computers and they come up and

1:18:32

get all of the necessary software, hardware

1:18:36

programs on there and ensure they're working

1:18:40

and then once everything's set up, they

1:18:44

leave us to go on and fight their daily

1:18:48

fights. Am I close with that, Sonya? More similarly,

1:18:52

if Steve can fix it.

1:18:56

They also do all our backups.

1:19:00

They monitor our computers and make sure that

1:19:04

I get a monthly report to make sure that they're working correctly.

1:19:08

So the systems technology, are they

1:19:12

part of Marisa morally? Yeah.

1:19:20

Okay, so I would entertain a motion that we accept the quote for

1:19:24

$7,663 to upgrade and

1:19:28

get new computers programmed and up to date and ready to go.

1:19:32

Is there keyboard and stuff in there? Because I don't know if we need that.

1:19:36

Well, yeah. There's a keyboard and mouse here

1:19:40

for Janet's computer, but you probably could use the ones you're getting.

1:19:44

Yeah, if we all ask for it.

1:19:48

I guess we'll include up to $7,663, but if there's stuff

1:19:52

that we can take off...

1:19:56

I don't either.

1:20:00

It probably wouldn't hurt to update it and then move that one and put on

1:20:04

Janet's computer. For your backup? Yeah.

1:20:08

They're only good for about, I would say, three to five years.

1:20:12

The batteries just go bad enough. You can replace the battery

1:20:16

in it, but you might as well just buy a new one.

1:20:20

The battery is above the cost of the whole new one.

1:20:24

Yeah.

1:20:28

Yeah, so...

1:20:32

Let's get our other wishlist things done before we get a backup.

1:20:36

He's always slipping since then.

1:20:40

Four years ago

1:20:44

he didn't have a skidster or a side by side and look at him now.

1:20:48

In a whole new building.

1:20:52

So, I do have a question. That Dell

1:20:56

Thunderbolt dock, you have primarily a laptop computer

1:21:00

and that's the dock, so you have your monitors

1:21:04

and keyboard and stuff attached to it. Yep.

1:21:08

And are you the only one who uses the laptop, the other ones are desktops?

1:21:12

Mine's a laptop. Here's his laptop too.

1:21:20

But you just have the laptop. Mine's just a basic laptop.

1:21:24

It's nothing. Sure. Nancy, you're a new thing.

1:21:28

You just need it for emails and Word documents. Yeah, and then we'll have this new

1:21:32

cloud-based GIS that I'll be able to edit with it.

1:21:36

Yeah, that'll be on his computer. He doesn't have any of the black mountains.

1:21:40

He doesn't have any of the hardware stuff on him.

1:21:44

None of the billing stuff, because I don't want that anyways.

1:21:48

It's costly for each computer. Sure.

1:21:52

Yeah, you gotta pay a license probably for each computer.

1:21:56

We don't even like hook mine up to the monitoring backup

1:22:00

and anything. Mine is just all separate. Stand-alone.

1:22:04

Well, the cost of the computer has gone down because

1:22:08

it's cloud-based. That's

1:22:12

how we pretty much operate too.

1:22:16

Okay, do we have a motion made in seconded?

1:22:20

Not yet. I'll entertain a motion to approve the

1:22:24

up to 7663.

1:22:28

For just new computers.

1:22:32

Seconded. Okay, motion made in seconded.

1:22:36

There's some stuff on there that's not needed, I guess.

1:22:40

You guys can take it off to hopefully make it cheaper.

1:22:44

Again, you know...

1:22:48

For a while, we were on the same rotation as Plentywood, so they would come up and do Plentywood and us.

1:22:52

And then we'd share the cost.

1:22:56

Somehow we got off schedules.

1:23:00

When Kelly was there, we'd do it at the same time.

1:23:04

Is five years too long, do you think?

1:23:08

I know what it's like

1:23:12

when your stuff goes down and you can't work.

1:23:16

I'm lost about...

1:23:20

You really haven't had any trouble with the only thing

1:23:24

like Sonya's keyboard, but working on it. But that was it.

1:23:28

And I would think these ones got a five-year warranty, it says right. You would think it would cover.

1:23:32

I think we

1:23:36

changed ours how to work every five years.

1:23:40

I think in our CFP it says five to seven years.

1:23:44

I don't know.

1:23:48

I have a laptop now, but it's to the point now where

1:23:52

it's got the old windows on it that's going to end support.

1:23:56

So that's why I need one. Otherwise I could just go tell the end

1:24:00

support really.

1:24:04

I think I'd be a little more concerned if we didn't have all the IT

1:24:08

help and all the backups and all that stuff.

1:24:12

I've been always assured that if we lost all our computers

1:24:16

they could get us one the next day.

1:24:24

Any other questions?

1:24:28

Okay, hearing none, all those in favor?

1:24:32

All right.

1:24:36

So the next item is study commission. I know we kind of

1:24:40

flirted with that a couple times throughout the meeting here, but

1:24:44

for some reason I was thinking there was two, but maybe I was

1:24:48

there is just the one. So I know there was a couple

1:24:52

people who had mentioned they were considering it.

1:24:56

You said no one else filed, so you only have Jason now.

1:25:00

Okay. Well, then if we use Niki's

1:25:04

school of thought, we'll have two people mad at us if we had two point

1:25:08

two. Or maybe

1:25:12

they'll be happy and Jason will be mad because he had to actually file.

1:25:16

But there was no cost for it and it was free.

1:25:20

So I guess

1:25:24

the whole council, if you guys

1:25:30

want to go recruiting,

1:25:34

if it comes up in conversation, we have two openings

1:25:42

we'll

1:25:46

see what happens. So it'd be nice to get three

1:25:50

and then I believe there's a member from the council

1:25:54

or the mayor sits on there as a fourth.

1:25:58

And Burl is the one telling me that and I have not gone to

1:26:02

research that, but that's how he read something.

1:26:06

I think it was ex-official.

1:26:10

That's the way I read it. Like they couldn't

1:26:14

currently be elected position.

1:26:18

But I could be wrong as well.

1:26:22

Yeah, I don't remember seeing anything.

1:26:26

I know.

1:26:30

But again, as we get closer

1:26:34

hopefully there's more and more info coming out.

1:26:38

Like I said, I don't know. Daph Clark's just an email or a phone call away.

1:26:42

Me personally

1:26:46

I had planned on going to all the meetings

1:26:50

assuming we get the full staff of them.

1:26:54

But try to remain fairly quiet

1:26:58

and let them do their thing, not try to steer them in any direction.

1:27:02

But that was just my

1:27:06

take on it. Because the meetings are open to the public

1:27:10

once they do start meeting. And I'm hoping the City Escobar

1:27:14

Study Commission and the County Study Commission run their meetings

1:27:18

at the same time. Because I really think that could be beneficial

1:27:22

bouncing ideas off of each other. I didn't see where they

1:27:26

couldn't do that. And maybe they'll choose not to.

1:27:30

But we'll just kind of see what they decided to do.

1:27:34

But I think that's a good idea.

1:27:38

Okay, moving on

1:27:42

to Mayor Leave of State Request.

1:27:46

He'd hide. Damn it. That was easy.

1:27:50

Okay, Airport Projects Grinnell.

1:27:54

I am going to

1:27:58

Rome and Minot, North Dakota. Then we're flying out to

1:28:02

go to Nashville just missionally tonight. I have an insurance meeting there.

1:28:06

She's taking along. So for an additional fee

1:28:10

you're able to bring a guest.

1:28:14

I chose her.

1:28:18

A couple other people towards the top. But they said no.

1:28:22

So we're going to Nashville. We leave.

1:28:26

We fly out Sunday. And we're back to Scobey Thursday. So Sunday the 18th

1:28:30

back to Scobey Thursday the 22nd.

1:28:34

So we'll miss the first day of school there. And then that first kind of

1:28:38

partial week or whatever.

1:28:42

So I guess there's no meeting scheduled or anything.

1:28:46

So we're good there.

1:28:50

In my absence, the council president would have to come

1:28:54

put out any fires. There shouldn't be any.

1:28:58

Well, that's why I did that.

1:29:02

Yeah, that's fine. I'll be around.

1:29:06

Did everybody sign? Did you go to the credit union to sign?

1:29:10

I don't think I have.

1:29:14

I was going to shoot you a text.

1:29:18

I was at the credit union and then I got absolutely sidetracked and forgot to.

1:29:22

So yeah, if you could get that end today or this week if you're able to.

1:29:26

Just the credit union or the credit union?

1:29:30

I think it's just the credit union. Because I haven't even done anything at the bank.

1:29:34

I know the credit union. You haven't?

1:29:38

Well, no, maybe I did. Maybe Shandy caught me.

1:29:42

But I know the credit union does.

1:29:46

Yeah, I completely forgot about that.

1:29:50

Yep, so we'll handle that out.

1:29:54

Okay, moving on, airport grant request letter.

1:29:58

Dorothy Holm basically just comes and has a sign

1:30:02

for the airport.

1:30:06

I don't even remember

1:30:10

what they were asking for. A little bit more money to get

1:30:14

grant money to offset the

1:30:18

Yeah, they were doing some crack ceiling and I don't know if they had some

1:30:22

bigger things there. I know it was interstate engineering

1:30:26

that like re-ass faulted it or whatever they did here a few years back.

1:30:30

I know John Bach was

1:30:34

the or one of the engineers on that.

1:30:38

But I would entertain a motion that we approve

1:30:42

this airport grant award request

1:30:46

letter for the mayor to sign so that we can get this

1:30:50

grant funding to go towards the City County

1:30:54

airport.

1:30:58

Okay.

1:31:10

I'll make a motion to approve funding

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for the Scobey airport.

1:31:18

Okay.

1:31:22

Any discussion, questions?

1:31:26

Thanks, Clint.

1:31:30

Okay, hearing none, all those in favor?

1:31:34

Okay. Motion carries.

1:31:38

This time, is there any public comments?

1:31:42

Anything on or off the agenda?

1:31:46

This is public.

1:31:50

Again, she's keeping them to herself.

1:31:54

It's rare.

1:31:58

She's angry writing all this.

1:32:02

Okay, so I'll come to agenda items.

1:32:06

Obviously, heavier reading.

1:32:10

This next meeting, the 27th, then Brian, you will for sure be gone.

1:32:14

As far as I know, yes. Changes, I'll let you know.

1:32:18

Okay. Well, it is what it is, but as long as we have a quorum

1:32:22

I don't suspect there to be much public

1:32:26

here. There hasn't historically been.

1:32:30

So, but we'll go through the motions

1:32:34

and go through each one and we'll see

1:32:38

what happens.

1:32:42

Okay, last

1:32:46

agenda item would be to approve the consent items.

1:32:50

There are several pages of your packet, so at this time I would entertain a motion

1:32:54

that the council approves the consent items.

1:32:58

I'll move.

1:33:02

Okay. Motion made seconded to approve

1:33:06

the consent items. Is there any

1:33:10

questions, comments, concerns?

1:33:14

Hearing none,

1:33:18

all those in favor? All right.

1:33:22

Motion.

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