I pledge allegiance to the fight of the United States of America, and to the Republic for
which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Okay, would the clerk please call the roll. Councilperson Larson.
Here, French.
Here, Crowder.
Here.
Okay.
We got enough for a quorum, Seth was going to be gone, I had my kind of dates crossed
a little bit, but that's fine.
In your packet, is the agenda for today's meeting, I'd entertain a motion to adopt.
So moved.
Seconded.
Okay, motion made seconded, any discussion, changes?
Additions?
Hopefully no additions.
Okay, hearing none, all those in favor?
Aye.
Okay, also in your packet would be the minutes from the August 27th meeting, I'd entertain
a motion to approve those minutes.
Motion.
Seconded.
Okay, Brian and Greg, thank you, any discussion?
And has that thing started?
Okay.
I don't want to get it a hand slapped with a formality here.
Okay, any discussion, any discussion?
Changes, deletions and corrections?
Hearing none, all those in favor.
Aye.
Okay, minutes are approved, public comment, hello Wyatt.
I ain't got a [inaudible].
Okay, public works?
Okay.
Well Thiel Brothers is here to do the roof at the fire hall, hopefully they'll start today.
Of course the pool's drained, we're going to try and get about six of the eight lights
working, I think that's what we can do.
And then one week this week we're going to have to flush hydrants and I'm just going
to do it during the day again like we did last time.
Okay, we don't get near the bad water like we used to, right?
No.
Okay.
There is one, there was one change to the Thiel Brother's roof, right?
Yeah.
An added expense for five, six hundred.
Yeah, five, six hundred dollars where the wall is between the old one and the new one
there is sided with siding and they were going to rubber over that but it'll wear
every time they make a bend so they'll remove that siding and just put the rubber straight
up.
They might have to put some OSB behind it to attach to.
Okay.
So this was, Steve called me about this yesterday and you know the total project cost is just
shy of fifty grand anyway.
I thought if they're recommending we do this for five hundred bucks.
To me it was a no brainer.
We're trying to do this once right.
You know not have to revisit this for thirty years again.
So, and I trust Thiel Brothers, you know they're pretty reputable.
They're not the cheapest but they probably are arguably one of the best in the area.
Short list of flat roofers in the area but again arguably they'd be towards the top of
however long the list.
Okay, and you're having questions for public works?
Oh and the pivot is broke.
Sweet.
Something in electrical.
I was down there with my ohm meter FaceTiming Kent that works on those and we were trying
to figure out what was wrong in the box but it sounds like there might be a couple of
transformers out in the box.
He's gonna be back in town and come up later this week to take a look at it.
We're just troubled.
He was actually down on vacation in Vegas when I was FaceTiming him.
Wow.
He said once he gets back up here he'll come up and take a look.
I told him make sure he gave me a day's notice so I can let him know he's going out to the
pivot.
Yeah, that's right.
Okay, and we're not; the level in the Lagoon.
It's fine.
It's not like we might have to start watering it every day once we get it running again but
I'll just send a message and say we'll be out there every day to turn it on and off.
Okay.
Well, we'll get through this year and next year and if we need to upgrade to wireless,
remote, whatever, an app on your phone to run that thing.
Maybe we'll look at that.
Cross that bridge later.
Might be something.
The new lease owner might be willing to chip in on it too.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, zoning.
Do you have anything before we vote on these two permits?
I don't think so.
Just as we have a zoning meeting October 9th or whatever and there will be a Airbnb
short-term rental on the list.
Oh?
Okay.
Okay, so at this time I would entertain a motion that we approve permits at
104 Park Street and then the demo permit at 407 Timmons,
which I don't think the demo permit may, it might be in your packet.
It wasn't in mine, but I saw.
So, okay. I'll move.
Okay, motion made.
I'll second.
Okay, motion made and seconded.
Can I do those in the same motion?
Should they be separate or is it fine?
We've been doing it the same.
Yeah, I think you can unless there are going to be different votes on each one.
Yeah.
Okay.
I think you can probably lump them together.
Unless you're going to deny one.
Yeah, okay.
Well, is there any discussion?
So we have motion made and seconded.
Is there any discussion?
Okay, Steve, I ask every time, but just for the recording,
you verify these and we're in compliance and good to go.
Yeah.
Perfect.
Okay, any other discussion?
Okay, hearing none.
All those in favor?
Aye.
Aye.
Okay.
They carried. Wyatt.
Not much for us.
Had the golf tournament this weekend.
And then there's more stuff to add to that list.
Bunch of old light bars.
I don't know if that really needs to go on there.
Some of that stuff should just.
I don't even know what came off of whether it was ours or county.
Yeah.
Maybe just disappear.
I mean, they're not even full light bar, just pieces.
Sure.
There's all kinds of stuff up on top of those bathrooms and all.
Yeah.
Some stuff should just be expendable, you know, the day after you buy it.
It's lived its life and then it's useless.
I won't have to ask then.
Okay.
I don't know.
Sonya, do you think there's any reason why we need to?
Is there, is there like a serial number on it?
I doubt it.
Most of those light bars are so old, there isn't much to them.
The big bubbles, the big bubbles were the rotator and the whole works.
They're not even resellable.
Yeah.
I mean, nobody would use them unless you're retro-ing an old.
Police car.
Police car for a parade or, you know, display.
We did have the Airpacks they were serviced a couple weeks ago during our training. Airpacks were serviced.
Okay.
One needed a new computer pack on it.
Stuff just sitting there not being used.
Sitting there hurts them just
Thank goodness.
As much as it does using it.
Yeah.
So back to the suburban.
You know, we talked about it last meeting a little bit.
So if the city, it's a city vehicle, so the county did put a new engine in it because it's shared.
And that was brought up here before that was done.
Yep.
Yep.
So my, where I met with that is what I think would be fair is we come up, if the city wants to sell it to the county, for example, what would that vehicle be worth?
Outfitted like it is with the old wore-out engine.
What would it be worth there?
Because that's what the city has into it.
Do you understand where I'm going with this?
Yeah.
That thing's solid.
I mean.
It's a.
It's got no miles.
Yeah.
I mean, it's a great older vehicle.
You know, so, if you were to buy this.
You know, what would the county be willing to pay for it?
Now with the, I think it's got the, the better motor, like a 383 or didn't they put something?
It was the same size engine.
Yeah.
It was a new.
Remember if that was, if we got that with a grant or not, I don't know if that matters.
It's been so many years.
Yeah.
You say it's probably been.
Well, not such an old vehicle.
It's like a 91.
I remember Tom talking about it.
Well, look at what you're doing it for.
I mean, myself, I would think that thing would at least be worth 10 grand.
I mean, that thing's solid.
Well, especially with the good new motor and all the.
I mean, that thing, it depends on who your buyer is.
Yeah.
We'll have to figure out if it was, if we got it through a grant.
Yeah.
Sometimes there's regulations or problems.
You can't turn around and sell it.
Actually got the sub, yet you're right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just like the deal with that shed for the transportation that was sitting on our property like that
$4,000 shed was a freaking giant debacle to work around.
So.
We'll have to do some research.
I can't remember.
I just remember Tom talking about it.
And for city wise, it really, we do have the equipment trailer now.
But if they get that pickup from the county, you know, Gary's old truck.
That's what would be used to pull the trailer now.
And then is that what Neil would take out to the, the rural fires instead of the suburban?
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
Cause again, you know, I know we've had that suburban for a long time.
Everything does.
Nothing lasts forever.
So.
Anyway.
Well.
Whatever we do, it just needs to be, you know, fair for everybody.
And we want to make sure we're not violating any grant term.
Terms or whatever.
Okay.
Any questions for the fire chief?
Perfect.
Thank you, sir.
So.
No sheriff today.
I did meet with him last week for about an hour, had a long conversation about.
Started with dogs kind of worked into.
The hunters and dogs.
The one thing we haven't really seen would be the stats.
You know, how many complaints are being called in versus how many citations are being issued.
You know, there's some repeat offenders I feel with obnoxious dogs.
So.
You know, and I get that they're working on, on other things, you know, everything from.
DUIs to
Sexual assault and then this and that.
So, you know, I do try to take a step back from things, but.
We do pay the deputies salary.
And.
It always comes back to are we getting what we're paying for.
So.
Rex is at the Academy sounds like he's actually doing very well.
They all took that MPAT, the physical fitness exam.
And Rex's time was like 40 seconds faster than Clint's time, I guess.
So, you know, good for him.
He's doing.
Good job.
He's, he's doing well with that.
And that's straight from Clint.
So.
Yeah, that thing's no joke too.
Oh yeah.
You don't just roll off the bar stool.
And show up, you know, you got to be in some sort of shape to, to knock it out.
So.
Okay.
Council comments.
I'm just going to start here.
Wyatt Wilder approached me.
And is interested in being one of the.
Getting on the list.
For the.
City advisory board.
Yeah.
The city side of it.
So right now we have one who will be on the ballot.
Jason Nasby, which, you know, and I think he's just automatically in.
So we have two to fill with why it wants on.
That's great.
We need to find one more.
Preferably not work at Pro-COOP, but I guess, you know, it is what it is.
Yeah, sure.
So, um, because it's going to be a thankless job.
It's going to be a donated time job.
Really no pay stipend.
You know, we'll send you for training.
They'll be no, nothing.
No expense.
But, you know, whatever you feel your time is worth, you will not be compensated for it.
So.
Welcome to volunteering.
So anyway, thank you for stepping forward, Wyatt.
We're hoping to get, you know, the full three members so we can actually go through the motions.
And see what transpires.
Okay, moving right along.
The next discussion item would be extending garbage service pickup.
So I guess at this time I would entertain a motion to approve extending garbage service pickup.
And then in the discussion we can kind of discuss it.
All right.
Do we discuss during the discussion part?
Sounds good.
So, do we have a motion?
Okay.
We have a motion.
I'll second.
Okay.
Thank you, Nikki.
Motion made and seconded.
To extend garbage service pickup.
So, this idea was the idea of Mike Thievin, County Commissioner.
He was dissatisfied with his service for his auto body shop.
He told me he kept on a calendar the days that they came and didn't come.
And he said they missed him half of the times.
We already go out of city limits to like where the Wolfe and the Wolfe and the Trower and Tade live out on golf course road or whatever that road is called.
But they are, they do have city water, right?
Does Thievin Auto Body have city water?
No.
Okay, so he's on his own.
I got, I asked Mike, is this going to create any hard feelings with the commissioners?
And he said, no, we talked about it.
It sounds like it's okay.
So, assuming we approve this today, I'll go back to the commissioners and say we approved it.
You know, we can now we'll work out the finer details as to, you know, when we start and this and that.
But I believe we're going to go.
So this would, we're primarily talking east of town right now.
So we'd go past, we'd go north of the football field to the Thievin Auto Body.
Neil Holum also lives up there.
I don't know what he uses for garbage.
I'm assuming either hauls it or it's county.
And then are we wanting to go east, just to the east side of the football field and north where you have Phil and Sonya Southland and then Tom and Candy Southland, like Steve or where, where would you start?
I would just cut off at a mile out.
Anything after a mile.
So a mile from where, where's the city?
The city limits line.
So that's relatively easily determined.
Is that just east of the Shu-Mei?
Just the Shu-Mei building?
No, it's city limits is past Air Design.
It's that barbed-wire fence going behind it.
Thievins house, that's city limits.
Like Jay Crandell's house is right on the outside of.
Oh, okay.
City limits there.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay, so one mile.
So that would basically extend all four directions from town.
Okay.
Okay, so.
Any comment?
I would just say I think the motion should probably be amended to reflect that.
One mile from the city limits.
Yep.
So it's as part of the official.
Okay.
The official approval is up to and including one mile.
Okay, so.
Should I just have the original motion maker.
changed to amend the motion to extend one mile from the city limits.
Maximum.
For garbage pick up.
Okay.
Second.
Amended motion.
Do we have a second?
I'll second.
Okay.
Nikki seconds.
Okay.
We had some discussion to determine one mile.
Any further discussion?
Steve, any final?
No.
Public works.
Okay.
All in favor?
Aye.
Aye.
Okay.
So I will visit with the commissioners.
I might just talk to one of them.
And let them know what we decided and then they can take that to the rest of the commission.
So.
One question.
Mr. Mayor.
Do we have like a sign up agreement or anything like that
For people that are outside the city limits or do we just kind of do it and then bill them?
Most people now have city water.
Yeah, okay.
So they're automatically paying.
Okay.
That's true.
Okay.
All right.
I mean they would just have to probably call down here.
Yeah.
Well, I suppose you're going to.
Yeah, we're not adding that many buildings.
No.
I was going to say.
Yeah.
I don't think it's going to be a huge chunk of people one and then probably not a huge chunk of money.
And is it going to be the same rate as?
I would as whatever those guys would say.
Residence?
Okay.
So I would say.
Yeah.
Because I think, like, Trowers and Wolfe they only get picked once a week.
That is a commercial building.
Thievin Auto Body?
Yeah.
And Mike said he just needs once a week.
When I talk with him the last time.
Yeah.
But if you're going to bill it as residential and the other businesses are billed as business.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We do commercial.
Yeah.
And he knows that we can't like throw engines in there.
Yeah.
It's household garbage.
That's right.
That's how I told him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm assuming his garbage should be about like what we get at Ralphie's, Bernie's body shop.
Yeah.
The plastic of paper.
Yeah.
windshields.
Yeah.
Because I think does he haul most of them cardboard?
I think he hauls a lot of the cardboard just because it's so big.
Yeah.
And you get a fender and then you get a box of size.
of a car.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The box is the size of these tables.
Yeah.
Okay.
And.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well.
Clear as mud I guess we'll.
We'll just move forward with that.
Okay.
Next item.
Request for proposals.
Lease irrigated land.
So in your packet.
Was a proposed.
A lease agreement.
Yeah.
We have draft water marked on each page.
So.
Ben, I will let you maybe.
Yeah.
Well, yeah.
I mean, I think it was two meetings ago.
About it last meeting too.
Getting a.
Request for proposal or some sort.
for that pivot.
Land for the next.
Few years with the idea.
That the tenant could come in.
And.
Kind of fix it up.
The way it needs to be.
I looked back and this is what we have done.
For Sheridan County.
In regard to the leased
Land that they have at the airport.
Which they put out for bids and give a five year.
Farm lease on that's actually the.
Crop land.
That can be farmed around there.
But.
I modified it.
You know.
Using some hay leases that we've done in the past.
From the private practice side.
And a few other things.
Incorporated.
As much of the original.
Wastewater.
Pivot lease agreement as well.
As I felt was appropriate.
You know.
Because that's obviously.
An aspect of things that we need.
Incorporated here.
So this is what it came up with.
Granted.
I think it's a one of a kind.
Sort of thing.
So there's not a.
Pull.
I tried to pull from different sources.
As you heard.
You know.
To.
Try to come up with something.
That.
Covers all the different.
Kind of wrinkles.
But.
One thing that I ran into.
That I.
Kind of wanted to bring back to the council.
To.
Discuss.
Would be.
How to handle.
Kind of the.
Rehab of that land.
For.
For lack of a better.
Term.
I don't know.
But.
You know.
I.
I was of two minds on it.
You know.
One.
Like.
You want to.
Ask somebody.
Or you know.
Ask for bids.
For somebody to come.
Disc it.
And spray it.
And.
You know.
Get it back to zero.
Or.
Did you just want to kind of put that
Upon release.
Upon the lessee.
With the idea that.
Obviously the.
The annual.
Rent.
Or whatever.
Payments is going to reflect that they have to do that work.
Yeah.
That's kind of the question.
I think.
It could be done either way.
Which is why I was like.
Well.
I'll kind of come back to you guys.
And see which direction.
You want to go.
Yeah.
I mean.
For what it's.
The effort.
And.
Cost.
That's probably going to go into.
Rehabbing that land.
You know.
It's going to be.
It's going to take some time.
Yeah.
You know.
So.
I was glad to see.
You were considering.
Five year.
Over like a three year lease.
Because.
If someone's going to put.
That effort into it.
It's going to take.
Two years.
Probably before they even get it, you know,
to where it's managed.
Yep.
And I.
Definitely had that.
Thought process.
I kind of considered all the way from one to five.
Exactly.
Yeah.
With as much work as it's going to be
Potentially.
And.
So.
Yeah.
I guess.
That's kind of where we sit.
This is supposed to be alfalfa?
Yes.
It's supposed to be alfalfa hay.
And that's what it should go back to.
I had to massage some of the language.
Because there's going to be probably some seeding involved.
Which wouldn't necessarily.
Relate to hay production all the time, but, you know,
I think that's something.
That.
You know.
Could be worked out.
With whoever's interested in it.
I think.
What I had anticipated actually, and like I mentioned briefly,
This notice that was published in the paper.
I actually have one of these for the City of Scobey.
But what I anticipated is they would just submit a bid.
With like an annual payment
that they were willing to pay the City.
I mean.
Really.
It's not that it doesn't matter.
But the main.
Concern
of the City is being able to.
You know.
Dispose of the wastewater.
It's not to make.
A ton of money on the hay ground.
Yeah. As long as we break even on the. Yep.
So they submit a bid.
For you know.
we'll pay X number of dollars per year.
For this Hay lease.
And we'll agree to take.
The waste water.
You know.
After that.
You know.
We could just have.
The discussion with them.
They could come up with their own.
Really.
Plan.
I think.
On how to get it back into production.
Sure.
Yeah.
We just have to make sure.
That they know.
They're not going to.
Be able to grow crops on it.
You know.
It has to be put back to alfalfa hay.
Well maybe that's.
You know.
I think we get.
this approved.
And we get it out there.
And advertised.
And then.
See what comes back.
You know.
If there's no interest.
Well.
And we'll have to.
Plan B it.
But.
You know.
Now is the time to get it out there.
Because.
You know.
There's probably still time.
To get some work done.
This fall yet.
And then.
You know.
get ahead of the game for next spring.
So.
Ben, did you include
that the paperwork has to be done for the state?
Which.
Like we have to know how much they water.
I put them that they'd be.
Subject to the land application plan.
And everything that goes along with that.
Yeah.
Just like the city would.
So, I mean that's definitely something.
That.
Should.
Anybody that's interested, we should probably.
We go through that.
You know.
Or talk to them about it.
So they know what they're getting into.
Yeah.
But.
Because we actually just had our five year inspection.
and that's the paperwork they asked for.
Yeah.
Or.
Okay so.
Alright.
Yeah, how much?
I guess I could put that in specifically.
Or even a general one.
You know, saying,
You're responsible for this.
Including.
Yeah.
Reporting.
At least if they read the lease agreement.
Yeah.
Some sort of heads up.
I think they got a report like rainfall.
And how much water.
And when they run it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Good.
And they have to give us a production report.
I believe, too, so.
That's true.
Yeah, I could add that in there, for sure.
And then the one other thing I did put in there.
And I kept it the same as before.
Is that the city would be responsible for.
Applying gypsum and sulfur.
I thought about shifting that to the lessee.
But.
The way the land application and.
Plan is currently puts that burden on the city.
And we're ultimately responsible.
Can we put it as per.
You know.
Agronomist or whatever.
You know.
Because now they told us not to.
Because there's too much salt in it.
Yeah.
I didn't say.
I didn't put in there.
That we would.
Like when.
It would have to necessarily I just said.
You know.
If it was required.
That.
Cost would be born by the city.
Which again.
Is at least in line with what.
The plan currently is.
So.
It doesn't change anything.
But I think that.
Seeing as how we've.
You know.
incurred some costs on that front.
But.
Just want to bring that up to the council also.
So everybody's.
Tracking that.
Okay.
So do you want to make a couple changes to this or.
Well.
I mean with that.
addition from Steve.
I think the lease agreement is about as good as I can.
Get it.
Okay.
And then I guess if the.
City wanted.
The council wants.
We could have a motion.
Just to.
Publish a notice.
For bids in the paper.
I'll get you an updated one.
Sonya.
That'll actually go.
And.
Then we can get it in the paper for the next.
Whatever three weeks or so.
And.
See who's interested.
And then.
Yeah.
We can kind of go from there.
As far as additional information it says in here.
I mean they put.
The proposed lease agreement on their website.
Would we be able to do that.
Yeah, if I can figure it out.
Okay.
I didn't know how easy or hard that would be.
But.
It's.
It would allow us to keep a short notice like this.
Rather than having to publish you know.
All the different.
Things in.
Multi-page.
Yeah.
Sort of deal.
So.
The thought doing that and then having copies at the city.
If they want to email.
You know.
We can.
And then.
One other question.
For details.
Or further information.
Who would be the best contact person.
Steve.
Probably.
Morgan.
I don't know.
If it's me.
I'm just going to have to be the middle man.
Come to Steve anyway.
All right.
Sounds good.
So.
Steve with your permission.
I will put.
Yeah.
Information there.
And then you want.
You have a city cell phone or do you want just the.
Just.
Line here.
Just my phone number works.
Okay.
The one I call you from.
Sounds good.
Yeah.
I suppose everybody and their dog has your number.
So.
It's no problem putting it in the newspaper.
Yeah.
Okay.
So at this time I.
Well.
ask that we approve.
How should I, trying to figure out how to word this correctly.
If I.
I was going to say if I were to do it.
Entertain a motion to publish.
Yeah.
Okay.
So I'll entertain a motion that we.
Approve publish for bids for.
For bids for bids for bids for bids for bids for bids.
For.
For.
Our irrigated land.
So moved.
I'll second that.
Okay.
Seconded thank you any.
Further discussion.
Okay.
All those in favor.
All right.
All right.
Motion carries.
All right.
Thanks for all the work on that.
Yeah.
We're going to try to use you like a rented meal.
At the end of the year.
So.
Try to close some of these kind of bigger.
Yeah.
Bigger issues.
Yeah.
So.
Okay.
Next item.
We have a public safety commission.
Sony included some information from the city of Shelby.
And is it a tool.
Just tool.
Yeah, tool tool.
Yeah, tool.
That's right.
Yeah.
Um, there you go.
So kind of an FYI.
I mean, we're not going to vote to approve this just yet, but are you and Logan still
kind of we are.
So the latest is it, you know, after we got busy, basically, but it kind of dropped
off.
Um, we have not, uh, I guess, uh, left it.
I mean, we're still definitely planning on it.
We got these, uh, to run this by the, the two bodies.
It sounds like they're, we've got two thirds of the commissioners, um, that are very receptive
to it.
So which is what we need to get it through.
He's all three.
Yeah.
And, uh, so we plan on, um, getting something in front of them and I, I would actually submit.
Maybe we get it approved by the city council first, just so they firmly know that the city
is on board.
If, if the council still is, I guess I shouldn't make it, make an assumption, but, um, I know
when we discussed it earlier on, um, everybody seemed receptive to it.
I think it would be a good move as long as we can, uh, kind of cap the city's financial
responsibility about where it is, you know, but otherwise it just moves the overall governance
of the sheriff's office, including the budget really and the hiring and firing of personnel
under this commission, which does not include any commissioners or city council members.
So it just gets it kind of out of everybody's to quote John Baker, little P politics sort
of situation there.
Um, I did think it was interesting looking at the stuff from Shelby and tool County.
They gave the final, I guess say on payment of claims to the county, uh, the city delegated
that authority to the county.
So it looks like the ultimate, you know, payment and everything else expenditures is still
going through the county.
Okay.
Um, there, which we could keep that, we could change it, you know, uh, I think that's some
of the wrinkles that need to be ironed out.
Well, in the hierarchy of things, the county outranks this, you know, all the cities anyway,
but I guess it turns into a matter of who wants to be the bookkeeper, I guess.
Yeah.
Well, and I think I actually don't think the city delegating its authority is that big
of a problem because we effectively have done that already through the law enforcement
contract.
So that won't be much different.
Okay.
What I think is going to be interesting is whether or not public safety commission should
kind of have the final say on the spending of the sheriff's budget.
I think the county might have a hard time with that, but I also was foresee budget battles
then between the public safety commission and the commissioners to, uh, we have two
different.
Well, we would have effectively done is move the battle to another battle out of your guys's
hands.
The battle may still exist.
So are we just looking for the consensus of the council today to continue to pursue this?
Yeah.
More or less, um, I gave that over to Logan was so kind to, uh, do the, do a draft of
that.
So he's got it.
Okay.
Balls in his court to come up with something and then we were going to kind of workshop
a little bit and then bring that to the, the different bodies, but if the, the council
is yet, um, I guess consensus is to continue on with that.
We'll keep working on it.
I do like the idea of bringing it to us first.
We get to frame it.
Okay.
So at this time, I'll entertain a motion that we, uh, continue to pursue, um, uh,
the, uh, the construction of a public service con, uh, excuse me, a public safety commission
with the county and to pursue, I'm still wanting to know what I'm trying to say, looking for
the creation.
So the creation of public safety commission, I would believe that we do that.
Okay.
And I'll second that.
Okay.
So motion made and seconded, uh, to approve the creation of a public safety commission.
Is there any further discussion?
So Ben, with this take that, like, when the sheriff comes and wants to have a contract
with the city, that, that would move that into this commission as well.
Yeah.
That would all be gone.
That would not be a, an interlocal for law enforcement anymore.
You've effectively combined the sheriff's office and any city police department to just
one entity.
Yeah.
So then my understanding is right now we have a, a sheriff who's in an elected position.
The other option is to have a, a police chief and, uh, have that police chief hired, fired
by the commission.
Uh, the sheriff actually will remain an elected position and he is the head of the public
safety commission.
All of the subordinate employees, the hiring and firing of them would go through the public
safety commission.
So people cannot be fired unless the public safety commission would vote.
So public, this public safety division division or commission becomes, um, human resourced.
Yeah.
Yeah.
As well as, you know, again, I think they could be given authority over the budget,
um, as well, uh, at least, um, to a large extent and then could kind of keep an eye
on, you know, prioritizing expenditures, making sure, you know, that money is, that we collectively
all voted in, make sure that that's, uh, spent wisely.
So you said the sheriff would be the head of the public safety commission?
Kind of the head.
Yeah.
That wasn't my understanding.
My understanding was that he reported to them, um, as a, as an elected official.
And it, it brings up, I guess I'd have to go back to the statute to look at it.
Uh, and maybe head is the wrong word for it, um, but he, yeah, he written kind of the
lead administrator, I guess of, of that thing is responsible for, um, basically the day-to-day
management of the public safety department that would be created so, um, yeah, as far
as where he sits in relation to the board, I wanted to say that he was a part of it.
But he would have to be an abstaining voting member on H, on HR.
Yeah.
And we've definitely had some, the Daniels County Sheriff's Office has had some hard
times over the years with employees, both good, bad, whatever, you know, there's definitely
been some politics involved.
Of varying capabilities and, and I think, um, and I, I really like Clint and I think he
does a great job.
Um, but I also know Sheriff, the nature of it being an elected position, you just never
know.
Well, it's, it's nice to look through that lens at Clint at this point, but this is going
to cover long before, long after Clint is here.
That's exactly right.
Yeah.
If we put the, the framework in place for long-term success, then regardless of who gets elected
Sheriff, there will be some sideboards on what they can do, a branch I think is good,
um, generally speaking.
I mean Montana's system and the fact that anybody can be sheriff, you don't have to
be law enforcement.
Yeah.
Law enforcement is why, is literally the wild west compared to most other states and jurisdictions.
I think we'll share should be in favor of this because it takes a little bit of responsibility
off of them.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You share now.
They have a bad guy to point to too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's just nice sometimes.
There's no mechanism to get rid of a bad sheriff that has been elected other than a recall.
Yeah.
Right.
Which is very difficult.
Yeah.
That's tough.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So.
Okay.
All right.
Any other discussion?
No.
All those in favor?
Aye.
Aye.
Okay.
And one other note just before we move on, Nikki brought up the interlocal agreement for
law enforcement and just triggered something in my brain.
Logan did send me a draft of a new agreement on that that had no changes other than the
dates basically.
So you may see that on the next agenda as kind of a placeholder.
I would like to have something in place because that agreement, if it does nothing else has
some indemnification of the city by the county when the county's out doing the county things,
whatever, you know, if they're the, I don't know who remembers it, but yeah, dog shooting
incident from years ago, you know, that ended up in a lawsuit.
The fact we had a law enforcement contract completely kept the city out of that.
So.
Sure.
Having some sort of agreement in place while we work on this other thing.
Yeah.
Good idea.
Yeah.
Yeah.
An assessment.
So actually, Sonya, if you could add that to the next agenda and all.
Okay.
Get a, get that version of it.
Because we're running on an expired.
Yeah.
We are currently.
Yeah.
30th, right?
We are currently.
The third month of.
And everybody's just kind of been kind of moving on the assumption, you know, on the
same wall and we'll probably backdate it effective as of July once we've got coverage.
But if something were to happen, you know.
Tomorrow.
Tomorrow or today.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So anyway, it's just a heads up on that.
As long as we were on the topic or close to it.
Okay.
Well then.
Switch subjects would keep it with you regarding the airport commissioner appointing an airport.
Yes.
So I did a little bit of digging on that.
I think.
I think they might be able to do it.
It's not the cleanest thing, but I, as long as you're basically not with the commission
having kind of the ultimate authority on it, I don't know that an employee of the airport
board, while they're not really an employee of the airport board, they're an employee
of the county.
So I don't know that you've got that supervisory problem.
Yeah.
So I don't know that being said, I haven't done as deep of a dive as I would like to
just because of the time restraints.
Yeah.
Honestly, that at least took me a lot longer than I thought it was going to.
But if we wanted to, maybe for the next meeting, we could put on appointment of that position.
And I'll make sure I got a thumbs up, thumbs down for sure.
Okay.
Well, I appreciate the looking into it.
I, I am in favor of recommending Charles Trower, you know, when we get there, you know, we
should be doing our due diligence, try not to overlaw your it too much.
You know, it's, I really don't see any issues.
But again,
Yeah, my general take is if it's not prohibited, then you can do it.
Yeah.
So that's fine.
You know, that's definitely the angle I take.
But I think we'll let's leave it.
Anybody in hot water?
Right.
Exactly.
So, but so we'll leave it on there.
Table.
I don't know.
Was it an action item on it?
It was.
Okay.
Yeah.
And would we table?
Okay.
So motion made to table.
Appointing an airport commissioner.
Is there a second?
Yeah.
Okay.
Any discussion?
All those in favor?
Aye.
Okay.
So upcoming agenda item.
Okay.
Now it is some business resolution 112 resolution creating the zoning planning commission appointing
the commission members and specifying the powers and duties of the commission and repealing
all resolutions previously tasked in conflict here with here with all we're doing here is
removing Bo Rebert's who has officially moved out of town with Casey Chifos.
She is just stepping into his term.
So she will again have to rerun in a few months.
But at this time I've entertained a motion that we approve resolution 112 as presented.
So moved.
Okay.
Motion made.
Seconded.
Seconded.
Any discussion?
Questions, concerns, comments?
Okay.
It's kind of nice.
We got, you know, we have our commissioner, excuse me, our councilman on there.
Now with my team and on there, we have a commissioner.
So hopefully that helps keeping him coming to the meetings because some of these guys
get busy like the Phillips outlands who sometimes take off in the summer and go build things
out at the lake so they can fish.
Boat.
Can you just light up someone?
All right.
All those in favor?
Aye.
Aye.
All right.
Do we send a letter to Casey then?
I have it drafted.
Okay.
Gotcha.
I have all the stuff about the zoning.
Okay.
So next item is public comment.
Seeing no public.
We will continue moving on.
Upcoming agenda items.
And we're going to kind of keep kind of punting that one, but we'll eventually have to start
seriously talking about it.
Kind of, so that part time office position, I know I'm in the background, Sonia and Steve
and I talk about it every once in a while, trying to figure out the duties, responsibilities,
what, you know, pay, be kind of a step in position to either the deputy clerk or even clerk.
So, state budget reports will, you'll have that finalized for next meeting.
Okay.
And then fault cleanup dates.
What are the proposed dates?
It's going to be like probably October 1st to like the 15th or something like that.
Okay.
And then at the end of that 15th, the last day is when we're going to also pick up the
green cans.
Okay.
And put them away for the winter.
Okay.
Okay.
So we'll have that on the agenda to vote on next meeting.
Final item on your agenda is the consent items.
I would entertain a motion to approve the consent items.
I'll move or approve the consent items.
Second.
Okay.
Motion made, seconded.
Any discussion?
So Steve, do you want to just explain to the council briefly that we've had a couple negative
or whatever positive, I guess, bad water tests?
Have they all been from here?
Well, no, we only have one bad one.
Okay.
So we only have one bad one that was from here.
So then you have to test upstream and downstream, which we did three times.
But the post office quit doing over nine mail to Billings.
And so they have to be there within 30 hours.
We were finally able to get one after we put it in their bag and then the ladies at our
post office put it in the express bag, even though we didn't pay for express.
They got there.
So, but this is probably all over Montana because they quit hauling mail with the plane
in Montana.
So I did contact Montana Roboter and he was going to meet with DEQ because when I first
started at the city, you used to have 48 hours to get your samples there and now you only
have 30.
So he was supposed to meet with DEQ later this month and express our situation to him
and not just others, but the rest of the Northeast of Montana.
So, but we're good.
So Paul did it today.
So we'll see if the priorities in the express envelope works for us or not.
So did that specimen that tested positive, was it outside the 30 hour?
No, it wasn't because that one made it down there on the plane.
And then the next week is when they had quit running the plane.
Which is costing us more dollars to retest than they did.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So this little thing that nobody really sees going on behind the scenes is creating a lot
of stress and headaches for the steves and sondhas in the rooms.
So, no.
And a lot of they'll charge you for the shipping those that they don't make them there in time.
Like we had one with the one that Gracie drove down there.
We got charged for mailing the sample down there that they didn't get there in time.
So, yeah.
And I gave Gracie 50 bucks to go deliver it, so she was happy.
Came out of my major statement.
Okay.
So anyway, thanks for going over that.
It's like I said, it's things that the public isn't seeing behind the scenes, but it's something
that we're spending a significant more amount of time on than we used to.
So, yeah.
Okay.
So we have a motion made and seconded, right?
Or do I need to ask for a motion?
I already forgot.
Yeah, it's been made and seconded.
Okay.
Any other discussion?
Okay.
Hearing none.
All those in favor?
Aye.
Okay.
Okay.
The motion carries.
I will entertain a motion to adjourn.
So moved.
I don't know where the journal is.