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Scobey City Council

July 23rd, 2024 Meeting

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00:00and justice for all. the clerk, please call the roll.

00:06Councilperson Axtman.

00:07Here.

00:08Larson. Here

00:09French. Here.

00:11OK.

00:12I'm just going to shoot Greg a quick text.

00:24All right.

00:27Greg didn't let me know if he was not going to be here.

00:29I thought he was, but anyway.

00:33We got a quorum.

00:33So in your packet, is the agenda for today's meeting.

00:36I would entertain a motion to adopt.

00:39I'll motion to adopt.

00:42I'll second it.

00:43OK.

00:44Motion made, seconded.

00:48Any questions?

00:50Anything we should move around?

00:55OK.

00:55Hearing none, all those in favor?

00:57Aye.

00:59OK.

00:59Also in your packet are the minutes from the July 9th meeting.

01:05I would entertain a motion to approve.

01:09I'll make a motion to approve July 9th's meetings.

01:12OK.

01:13Motion. I'll second it.

01:13Seconded.

01:15Any corrections, additions, deletions?

01:25All right.

01:26Hearing none, all those in favor?

01:28Aye.

01:30OK.

01:32No public.

01:35No pool manager.

01:37No fire department.

01:38No police department.

01:39Yeah.

01:40Yeah.

01:40See who comes.

01:41OK.

01:41Oh, we got the lawyer. I just texted Clint.

01:43He forgets, because.

01:47Steve, do you have anything for the pool?

01:50I don't think so.

01:50OK.

01:52No issues with this.

01:53It seems it's going smooth, so.

01:58OK, public works.

02:01Well, our dump truck has an issue with the cab controller

02:05on it.

02:06It's got to be taken to, like, Billings or Williston to get fixed.

02:10But we won't do that until later,

02:12because we're going to do our street repairs first.

02:15Then we'll schedule it and take it over there or something.

02:18So clean street repair and plowing snow?

02:23Yeah, that's what I'm hoping to do, yeah.

02:26So it's still drivable.

02:28Everything in just half the gauges don't work in it.

02:31So we'll get our street repairs done before we get it taken in.

02:38What was the other thing we had fixed on it a year or two ago,

02:41like motor mount broke?

02:43That was with the fan.

02:44Yeah, the fan fell off the front of it.

02:46Yeah, that's right.

02:48Was that?

02:48Do you mean are these related?

02:50Is this an electrical issue?

02:51I don't think so.

02:52The cab controller is the box that runs the stuff in the cab.

02:55Gotcha.

02:56Willys, or Border Plains, looked at it.

02:59They can't fix it, because you have

03:01to go take it to the actual dealer to get it programmed

03:06for the truck you have.

03:08So.

03:15OK.

03:17I did talk with, it'll come up later, too,

03:19but I talked with Bo, and he gave me an estimate.

03:21And it's going to be about 20,000 defense the pivot.

03:25OK.

03:26So when he says if we let him know soon enough,

03:28he's got a crew in Glasgow, they

03:29could get it done like a week, he thought.

03:39OK, any of you have got any questions for Steve

03:41for public works?

03:48OK, moving on.

03:49Zoning, we do have a zoning permit request in here,

03:57but do we approve setting the date for the public hearing?

04:04To add the RV park for the conditional use?

04:06That's already set.

04:08And it's for the next, our next meeting, right?

04:10Our next meeting, while it's for their next meeting.

04:12The zoning board's going to have a meeting that's

04:1414th of August for it.

04:18And it's a public hearing to hear comments

04:20for and against putting RV parks as a conditional use

04:25in Residential 2.

04:28Where's that one at, Steve?

04:30That's the dark blue.

04:31Oh, OK.

04:32Pretty well everywhere.

04:33Yeah.

04:34So we have to send, and one of the stipulations

04:37when we have a public hearing like that,

04:39we have to send letters to everybody in that zone.

04:42And within 150 feet.

04:44So to get around that, circumvent it,

04:46we went to talk to Burl, and he's

04:48written on top of postcards.

04:50And we're just sending them to everybody who gets a water bill.

04:54I don't think that's circumventing, Steve.

04:56I think that's utilizing the resources wisely.

04:59Using your resources wisely.

05:01A few extra postcards.

05:03Burl thought it'd be about a dollar a card, so yeah.

05:08How many hours could you spend going around the outside?

05:12Every single property in there, and figuring out who the owners were,

05:16better to just fire them out.

05:17So yeah, that's how it goes.

05:19It says you can get a postcard.

05:22So is there somebody asking to put one in, or?

05:25Yes, there is.

05:26Yeah.

05:27So we have the definition in our book for it.

05:31It's just not listed in use in any zone.

05:34The lot, kiddie corner from Gordy's that Stentoft's own.

05:39Used to, What was that; Charlie Cassidy?

05:40The Charlie Cassidy house that Matt tore down a year or two ago.

05:47So there's a public hearing to hear comments on that, and then they'll have to decide

05:52whether they want to make a recommendation or not to do it.

06:02K, so in your packet is a zoning permit.

06:07Yeah.

06:08Let's see.

06:09For Gary Nieskens, 105 Janus for a fence.

06:15Looks like everything is there.

06:19Steve already gave it a thumbs up, so I would entertain a motion to approve this zoning permit.

06:29I'll move.

06:31I'll second.

06:33Okay.

06:35Steve, any comments on this

06:38that we need to know about? Pretty basic stuff.

06:40No.

06:41Yeah, I went over there with him and drew it out with him.

06:44I mean, it's basically, it's not even really, it's more like a privacy wall kind of thing

06:50between him and his neighbor.

06:52Okay.

06:53I think it's only like 12 feet long or something like that.

06:59We can do.

07:01Yeah, that's what he said.

07:03Yeah, and it sounds like the city council can do, too, so.

07:08Thanks Steve.

07:10He stopped by my house.

07:11and wanted to finish mine for me.

07:13Did he?

07:14Yeah.

07:15He's trying to trim up business again.

07:17Yeah.

07:18Any other comments?

07:21Okay, hearing none.

07:23All those in favor?

07:25Aye.

07:26All right.

07:28Motion carries.

07:32Okay.

07:35And then next thing in your packet, the law enforcement advisory board minutes, the draft

07:41minutes, I guess we'll approve those at the next meeting that we set for October something.

07:48I think 17th or whatever it was.

07:52Right.

07:53Yeah.

07:54October 16th.

07:57So, no sheriff.

08:00There's only a public there and then Greg, Michael, P and I and Sonia.

08:13Are they trying to hire another deputy?

08:16Well, they have Rex and Tuggle kid, I thought.

08:21They both still working then?

08:23Yeah.

08:24I thought I did see the, maybe they need to pull another sheriff.

08:29Well, the should have four.

08:31You're right.

08:32They should have four.

08:33So, can they have, if he isn't comfortable appointing this Sheridan County attorney

08:42knowledge here, and then just for our knowledge, if he isn't comfortable assigning his current

08:49deputies as the under sheriff, can he hire three deputies?

08:57Well, yeah.

08:59And I agree with what he's out right now.

09:02I wouldn't just throw something in position just because.

09:05Yeah.

09:06So, but at the same time.

09:09Yeah, I don't know.

09:11Honestly, I haven't ever researched whether a sheriff has to appoint an under sheriff

09:18or under what circumstances they could not.

09:22I just, yeah.

09:23Yeah.

09:24I would look into it, I guess.

09:26Well, if they don't pass academy, then they don't have a job.

09:29Basically.

09:30Yeah.

09:31So, Ben, so Sonia and I were talking.

09:34Sonia brought this my attention about the attorney general office for the state of Montana

09:39looking into cities supposed to be having like their own police.

09:45We talked about this briefly and I don't quite, I didn't.

09:48There was a little thing on The Great Falls News about the city of Shoto.

09:52Quite a few cities and towns are arguing over their sheriff contracts.

09:57So, apparently in our MCAs it says that third class city has to have a police chief to say that.

10:04Yes.

10:05So, they're reviewing what that actually means and maybe they're going to rework that.

10:09Okay.

10:10That'd be interesting.

10:11And come up and put some solutions for all the smaller communities that are currently

10:14here.

10:15Just because they're struggling with law enforcement.

10:16Yeah, that's why technically, you know, we have to have a contract.

10:21And theoretically, Flaxville, even though they're so small, should have had a contract,

10:27even though they, I don't know if they, they had or if they did.

10:31It was kind of a handshake.

10:33Sounds like a lot of communities have the same.

10:35Yeah.

10:36Yeah.

10:37You know, that was kind of a bargaining chip to, I mean, we, we have to have something

10:41either, you know, a police chief theoretically, you know, a force of one or, you know, contract

10:49with the local sheriff's office to provide the services.

10:54I just thought it on The Great Falls News here in the morning.

10:57Mm-hmm.

10:58Or the attorney general's office is reviewing.

11:02Yeah.

11:03Yeah.

11:04Well, we'll see how that goes.

11:06You try running something through the legislature.

11:09You ever know what's going to come on the other side, unfortunately.

11:12And it spits us out.

11:13You know what?

11:14Yeah.

11:15Might be better, might be worse.

11:16Yeah.

11:17Um, since we're on the subject of law enforcement, are you and Logan gaining any ground on just

11:23getting our, re-approving our current, um, contract because it's your spider doesn't

11:29use the 30?

11:30Yeah.

11:31I guess that, um, we honestly have not, um, have not jumped in on that.

11:38Um, probably, uh, I'd say later this week or early next, we'll be getting together on,

11:48uh, that, I guess, timeline for the Public Safety Commission or, yeah, if we want.

11:55Um, I don't know if there was any discussion that that LAB meeting, um, I wasn't able to

12:00attend, but is everybody okay?

12:02Just putting kind of the same agreement in place until something better comes along.

12:07That, so that's what I was suggesting, but, um, you know, if Mike Lund isn't necessarily

12:16sold on the Public Safety Commission thing yet.

12:19Okay.

12:20Um, Logan, I did talk to Logan the same day.

12:23I texted you and Logan on that same day about the meeting.

12:26And Logan actually just stopped by for a minute and he wanted to go visit with the newest

12:31commissioner to feel him out, the story he's had on it before, you know, he, maybe you

12:36guys get together and put together the big push.

12:39Sure.

12:40Yeah.

12:41As of now, I believe the city is in favor of at least pursuing it, you know, until we're

12:46not.

12:47Yeah.

12:48And that's my, that's what I'm worried with the county is, well, we don't like the way

12:51this sounds now.

12:52So no, don't, we just, no, don't.

12:54Like, well, let's, you know, let these college educated people at least pursue it, present

13:00the stuff.

13:01Yeah.

13:02And then if we still don't like it, and we voted down, at least we can say we went down

13:05the road.

13:06Yeah.

13:07We need to know the ins and outs of how it worked.

13:08Yeah.

13:09Like, you know, the positives and negatives of if it was set up that way before you make

13:14a damn decision on it.

13:15Yeah.

13:16You know, it's common sense.

13:17I hate that it's a no.

13:18I mean, let's, let's try to find a yes.

13:20And if we can, well, then it's a no.

13:22Yeah.

13:23So then why did we start backwards and vote in a male levy for something that might not

13:29be.

13:30Well, yeah, we tried to, the sheriff's office needed the money, whether there was a public

13:36safety commission or, you know, like that was priority number one, because quite honestly

13:43had that not happened.

13:45I don't know that we would have had an effective law enforcement agency to supervise, you know,

13:52this whole new entity.

13:54But anyway, so it was kind of trying to eat the elephant one bite at a time.

14:00And what would the putting John Baker little P politics allow, you know, for any one, one

14:10project.

14:11So that's kind of how we ended up just doing it one at a time and prioritize that.

14:15And I was kind of woken me, putting our heads together, but short answer or bringing it

14:20back around.

14:21We'll be getting together on that.

14:23It'll probably be early next week.

14:26But yeah, plan on doing that if people want, you know, or the bodies want a contract in

14:32place.

14:33I think it'd be a good idea just because if they're with the sheriff's out, you know,

14:39enforcing the laws in the city, it'd be nice to have that contract where they're officially

14:43authorized to do that and write city code ordinances and violations.

14:49But that, yeah, that being said, I don't want to lose momentum on the other thing.

14:56That's a possibility too.

14:58So we'll be working on both of them.

15:00Quite honestly, I've been devoting the time that I have had since I, my return to trying

15:06to get this pivot thing figured.

15:09Yeah, for sure.

15:13We can talk about that in a minute.

15:16Yeah.

15:17Okay.

15:18So again, having no sheriff here and kind of what's noting the advisory board meeting,

15:26I guess we're good there.

15:29Council comments.

15:38I had just had some people ask about when we were going to fill potholes and it sounds

15:43like you guys are going to start working on that anyway.

15:46Yeah.

15:47Actually, when you put the chart and then weigh it in the hay, so.

15:50Yeah.

15:51That's what I saw sitting up there.

15:53So that question is answered.

15:55So you can tell the people, I went to the meeting.

15:57I went and I told Steve he's going to fill potholes.

16:00Yeah.

16:01He's going to do it today.

16:02And he said he'll get it started today.

16:05Well, it'll be tomorrow.

16:08Great.

16:09Now the liars.

16:10Yeah.

16:11Yeah.

16:12Yeah.

16:13And where are you, what's the priority areas?

16:17Where are we starting?

16:18Well, we got to do that thing at Anderson Apartments or whatever.

16:21Yeah.

16:22And then I know there's potholes by like the credit union and one by up on Smith.

16:27Yeah.

16:28There's some on Smith.

16:29I've been walking by.

16:30Yeah.

16:31One in front of zombies.

16:32Robert Miller has one.

16:35Leave that one in front of zombies.

16:37Right.

16:38I think he disappeared in there.

16:43And then there's one down in front of that house.

16:47Art Holm's mom's old house.

16:50Oh, yeah.

16:54Okay.

17:00Any other council comments?

17:10Okay.

17:13Moving on.

17:16Okay.

17:17Now, about half of our packet is pivot and paperwork and approvals.

17:26Sure.

17:27All that stuff.

17:28Basically pages 10 through 32 ish.

17:31If you're looking at it digitally, but yeah, then why don't you take the wheel here?

17:37So just to kind of update the council.

17:41We are on the city side all cleared to close.

17:48The survey was recorded last week after the commission approved it on the 16.

17:55We updated all of the various documents, the deed, right?

18:02The first refusal, the access of utility easements all updated that with the correct legal description,

18:15the exact legal description.

18:17We also sent out an amendment to the buy sell agreement, which this looks like the prior one.

18:23There's a second one that I just finished drafting yesterday that set the exact amount

18:31because the price was a per acre.

18:35So we stated the exact acreage, the exact legal description, and then amended the purchase price.

18:42And that was basically just to give the title company clear direction like this is actually the number you're starting with.

18:49They don't like having to do their own math.

18:52Well, I mean, they're capable of doing their own math.

18:56They just want to close it.

18:58They don't want to be making any decisions as to what's there not to sell.

19:02So what did the total last acreage come out to?

19:07I think it was 124,000 in change.

19:11Because it's 86.06 acres or 86.16 acres.

19:19I can get that for you.

19:21I just ordered it.

19:23Two along.

19:33So, okay.

19:37I actually just have an update note because I got an email at 86.06.

19:42Where I was going is the city is all ready to go on their side.

19:46As of until 15 minutes ago, I had not heard anything from JCL's attorney on their status.

19:54His email just indicated they may not be ready with the lean releases for tomorrow to close.

20:02So we may be pushing it a week, but hopefully we'll get it closed then.

20:09I kind of suspected that might be the case because one of the lenders is the FSA on JCL's side.

20:16We're working through another client lean release with the FSA.

20:21It goes fast despite everyone's best efforts.

20:26So anyways, that's where we sit.

20:30We're all teed up.

20:32Everything's basically ready to close.

20:35We did have a closing date for tomorrow, but it sounds like maybe next week.

20:42So the closing you'll need to check?

20:44Yes.

20:45And Morgan to sign.

20:47Yep, documents.

20:48And we may even be able to get someone assigned ahead of time.

20:51Okay, yeah.

20:53Yeah, we'll let the closer know.

20:56They asked about Thursday or Friday, but the title company's only here one day a week.

21:00So if it's not tomorrow, it'll be next week.

21:04So the 31st?

21:05Probably the 31st, yeah.

21:07Which is still within our window.

21:09You know, we had June 30th plus 45 days.

21:12So we're almost there.

21:15Plug it all this close.

21:17Yeah, plug it away.

21:19Plug it away.

21:20So we'll get there.

21:22And then yeah, once we get that deed recorded, I guess pick up things with DEQ, whoever else.

21:33Let's take two mayors and eight council persons to get together.

21:37Yeah, so we're going to have to have some kind of a party.

21:40For sure.

21:41Yeah.

21:42Gotta be.

21:43It's good.

21:44I was, I don't know, there always seems to be something with this deal, but it looks like everybody's still on board and we're, the big hurdle for me was whether that survey was going to get signed and not.

22:01Sure enough, we got everybody in there and it all got recorded.

22:05So I think everyone's pretty well locked in at this point.

22:08And I think we'll finish it out okay.

22:10A lot of moving parts, of course, and a lot more on this deal than even your average.

22:16So that's where we sit.

22:18Okay.

22:19Optimistic that within eight days.

22:23So if we close on a Wednesday, I could go down there Thursday and turn the pivot on.

22:27Yeah.

22:28Good.

22:29Have you not been able to do that yet?

22:30I don't know if it's been, if he's been running it or not.

22:33Oh, okay.

22:34We're not overflowing yet?

22:36No, we're not overflowing yet.

22:38Okay.

22:39And if we had to, we could pump it into the cell.

22:41Yeah, that's what I would do.

22:43Well, again, well, technically, I mean, everybody's still subject to the lease.

22:47So I mean, he shouldn't be operating it.

22:50Because before I turn it on, I got to measure up 200 feet and I got a cap 200 feet of sprinklers.

22:56Yeah.

22:57Yeah.

22:58And we have all the caps to do that?

23:00Well, I can't remember if they're inch or three quarter, but just get them at the harbor shore.

23:04Oh, okay.

23:05Okay.

23:06They're just probably like five or six heads as well.

23:09Well, you can't thought.

23:10And then we'll just cap them off for now.

23:12And then this winter, he says more of a cold time to do that anyways, to date that whatever off we have to take off.

23:18That's a smart idea.

23:19Yeah.

23:20Okay.

23:21So let's do.

23:23Okay.

23:24Good enough.

23:25Okay.

23:26No.

23:27Big step forward, I guess.

23:32All right.

23:34Moving on.

23:36Task order 11 here.

23:43I didn't really look at this one much.

23:45I just need to, do we need to, to approve this on you?

23:50Yeah.

23:51And I reviewed it.

23:52It appears to be pretty standard.

23:54Yeah.

23:55Cooking cutter template.

23:56Okay.

23:57Okay.

23:58So great.

23:59Great.

24:00It's finally getting to work on this.

24:02The wastewater.

24:03Because this.

24:04I know it seems like it's going to take a while.

24:07Yeah.

24:08Okay.

24:09Okay.

24:10Okay.

24:11Okay.

24:12Okay.

24:13Okay.

24:14Okay.

24:15Okay.

24:16Okay.

24:17Okay.

24:18I gave up.

24:20Okay.

24:21I think the next one.

24:22I know, it seems like we keep going back and forth with wastewater and stormwater, which

24:24wasn't he supposed to be working on the stormwater one?

24:27Or is it this one that he said exists?

24:31Or work in like, last year to the year before?

24:35This is an older one.

24:36I thought the last time we talked to him, he was going to work on wastewater, though.

24:42Yeah.

24:43Yeah.

24:44Wow.

24:46Because that's where we were having all of our issues with stormwater, so we didn't

24:50talk to him about that.

24:53But I know, like with the wastewater, having all this updated, whatever, hopefully put

25:01us in a position to start applying for more grants when we have to update all that infrastructure

25:07going from Turb Lake to the Pivot and whatnot, but official terms here.

25:18So, all right.

25:20At this time, I would entertain a motion that we approve a task order.

25:23This is a regular engineering agreement.

25:26Task order 11.

25:28Task order engineering agreement for the wastewater.

25:33I'll make a motion for the engineering agreement.

25:36Okay.

25:37Motion made.

25:41Do we have a second?

25:43I'll second it, Morgan.

25:45Okay.

25:46So, motion made, seconded.

25:48Any discussion?

25:52Okay.

25:53Hearing none.

25:54All those in favor?

25:55Aye.

25:58And just proof that 60,000 is the new 50,000 for the amount.

26:05Just a nice round number.

26:10Okay, so next item.

26:15Skip ahead.

26:16This is really nothing to, I asked Sonny to put this on there.

26:20Instead of putting it in the consent items, I kind of wanted it as a separate line item.

26:25It's just one page Excel spreadsheet.

26:28For me, it's on page 52.

26:32You can go across and you can see the, you know, the difference in water.

26:41Usage versus a little charge for.

26:49I don't know if there's, I don't know if I'm missing like water that's in the storage tanks.

26:55We're still no workbook.

26:57I don't know if I'm just getting my foals off UB and my foals off, or off water.

27:04Yeah.

27:05And then I go off, look at drive curry and see what they're charging us.

27:09I don't know what else to do.

27:12You know, to be, when I first looked at this, I'm like, oh, you know, the column on the right is just, it just keeps adding up and adding up.

27:20I'm like, oh wait, no, it's not.

27:22That's the actual per month difference.

27:26So July different.

27:29So I don't know.

27:30The meter was broken July, so we got three waters.

27:35Yes.

27:36For like two weeks.

27:38Their meter was broken?

27:39There was, yeah.

27:40I'm sure they'll charge us something.

27:42When I talked to Gumball, we sounded like.

27:45Yeah, a little bit.

27:47Gumball.

27:52That's Jake Zumball, right?

27:54Yeah.

28:01Yeah, I just, this is crazy how.

28:10You know, are people pulling out of these hydrants in the middle of the night?

28:14How are we two million gallons off?

28:18Yeah, I was going to say, that's a lot, a lot.

28:25I was going to say, what about the pull?

28:27Getting no new charges, so is it getting put on the.

28:30Oh, I mean, that would make sense for May and June for it.

28:34Yeah, we don't pay for it, but that's why we put meters everywhere, just so we can count.

28:38And I just thought that was in our totals, but I don't know if the meter totals count.

28:43If they're not being built.

28:45That'd be a place to look and see.

28:47Sure.

28:48Because two million gallons that you're parking your baseball field in.

28:52But, you know, just even looking at January, February and March.

28:56You know, like I get, February and March, okay, a couple hundred thousand gallons.

29:01But then, you know, January, six hundred thousand, like.

29:04That's a lot.

29:06Was there, did something freeze?

29:09Well, you guys have skin reeked in there somewhere.

29:13Yeah, but boy, how many.

29:15We counted those gallons one year, and it wasn't.

29:20Maybe about two hundred thousand gallons.

29:22Was it?

29:23I think they flooded it three times this year.

29:25I don't know how.

29:27Did they just, did we give them a meter?

29:29We meter it and then pro-coa pays for it.

29:32You know, at the bulk water.

29:34But see that meter is separate too.

29:37And so it's only read every six months, or whatever.

29:40I don't, I think it's only read yearly.

29:42So we have a red pro-coa speeder.

29:44I don't know how much Duke has pulled out of that.

29:46I turned up on the hill.

29:48Sure.

29:53So, yeah.

29:55But it would be interesting to know if the ones that don't get charged,

29:58if they get counted towards the gallons.

30:02Yeah.

30:03But even, you know, like I said, we can just focus on February and March.

30:06I bet they do, because, I mean, they're still selling us the water.

30:13They're just not charging us for it.

30:15Well, they're charging us for it.

30:17But see, we're, I mean, like our meters, we have meters in the park, in the baseball field,

30:22but they're not, they're on no new charges.

30:24So we don't get billed.

30:26And we don't bill ourselves.

30:27So I don't know if the usage from those meters gets added to what we get, you know, to this particular water.

30:34We are counting.

30:36That one?

30:37Yeah.

30:38I'm sure it's probably a black mountain question that I would assume.

30:41But like when Perry was in the other day, you know, I didn't know that the eye clinic didn't have a meter.

30:47It's on a flat rate, which people who are on a flat rate almost pay more than they would a favorite meter.

30:55Then did.

30:56Yeah.

30:57That's why we stuck one in my office, because they were overpaying by quite a bit.

31:03I think the same thing at the hardware store, too.

31:05I told the hardware store that they'd probably get a lower bill, but putting a meter in, you know,

31:10it's for the radio station was the same way.

31:13Yeah, because you're not using, those places aren't used.

31:15No, they're washing hands and flushing toilets.

31:18Yeah.

31:19You have water and grass or new dishes or laundry or showers.

31:22That should be in our favor.

31:24Oh, and it was.

31:25It is.

31:26That's just where that, so that would make that number the difference smaller, because we're getting reimbursed for it.

31:33We're just not tracking the actual gallon usage.

31:37Yeah.

31:38But still, like, I, well, that's just it.

31:41I feel like, you know, 300,000 just seems like a lot to be off.

31:50But I think, but you know, like this, I guess, two million usage.

31:55Yeah.

31:56I mean, it's 10%.

31:5712%.

31:58You need to confirm that whether or not those non-charged amounts are in there.

32:05And then, yeah, pro-co-op or whatever else.

32:07I mean, you kind of got to get everything in there to really know how big of a problem that is.

32:12Yeah, we're missing a lot of data, if we don't have that partial picture.

32:16Well, then, and they said, and 10% is normal, they say.

32:20We're above that, but like, you know, the shenanigans that Mark Jensen pulled with his new shop, you know,

32:29what did he pull when he built the Bo Reaver shop?

32:31You know, is there unmetered services in there, you know, that people are talking about?

32:37So those tickets have all been pulled out now, too?

32:39Yep, yes, for sure.

32:40Oh, really?

32:41Yep, and he pulled all those tickets out, put a meter pit in.

32:44So it's all metered after the service.

32:46It's all ready to go.

32:47So did we go get that second meter inside the shop then?

32:50Yep.

32:51Because we should double bill it for a couple months.

32:54Absolutely.

32:55And all the free water they got.

32:58We went in the day after he put the other one in and pulled it out, so.

33:02The other thing, we just got to put a radio on his new one that he put in,

33:05but he hadn't filled it in the last time we were there, so.

33:09Jesper's been a lot better to work with than Mark with this.

33:13Yeah, Jesper's been good to work with.

33:15Mark, it was just, it was just a fight.

33:17And Jesper, he's like, I just don't want the reputation.

33:20I wish everybody thought like that.

33:25And really, trying to hide free water at the end of the day for one person,

33:30it's a few hundred dollars, you know.

33:35Anyway, digress.

33:41Anyway, I guess, you know, we can focus on February and March, let's say.

33:46And if that's kind of where our standard is, you know, without parks, ball fields, skating rink.

33:54You know, maybe we're, maybe we're close, but.

34:00But that is just an FYI for the council to look at.

34:04So when people say, you know, why is our water so expensive?

34:09Well, we're paying for water that's unaccounted for.

34:13So.

34:16Yeah, for city functions.

34:18I mean, stuff that we used, everybody uses.

34:21I mean, they need to understand that city has to be put in there.

34:25So we have to pay for water no matter what.

34:27Yeah.

34:28Every gallon that comes in.

34:29Yeah, unfortunately, we pay for every drop we have.

34:32Yeah.

34:35Okay, moving on.

34:37I guess now we will go to approved management plan, the Slipa Fire Hall roof improvements.

34:48So there's two management plans that look exactly the same.

34:51Pretty much.

34:53The only difference is on the first page where it's underlined,

34:56it'll say in the first paragraph, under administrative structure,

35:00fire hall repair.

35:04Pretty cut dry.

35:06Basically, Sonya had to fill in the blanks.

35:09So there's four pages of that.

35:11So I would entertain a motion or five pages that we approve the management plan

35:18for the fire hall roof improvements.

35:23How motion we approve for the fire hall.

35:28Okay.

35:29So motion made.

35:31Oh, second.

35:32Second.

35:33So motion made and seconded to approve management plan for the fire hall roof improvements.

35:39Is there any discussion?

35:44Okay.

35:45Hearing none, all those in favor?

35:47Aye.

35:48Aye.

35:49Okay.

35:50Then, the next item is the next page,

35:55a bid proposal from Teal Brothers Roofing

36:01to approve the hire them to repair the fire hall roof for the amalgam.

36:09Just a bit.

36:11Yeah.

36:13Looks like we got a couple different bids.

36:17So the second bid there, is that them overframing the roof and adding insulation?

36:25Am I reading that wrong?

36:27I mean, add additional for R30 insulation.

36:30Where does that come into the, do you know Steve?

36:34No.

36:35No.

36:36I mean, that's almost $7,000.

36:39But I mean, are they, if they're not reframing the roof,

36:42where the hell are they putting R30 insulation?

36:47Yeah.

36:48I don't get that, I guess.

36:53Because it doesn't say anything, adding structure or anything like that for insulation.

36:59I don't know.

37:00That's a replacement insulation that's under there.

37:02I don't know.

37:04Oh, so maybe they'll peel the top off and replace all the insulation and then re-sheet it.

37:09That's not, that's not bad.

37:11Yeah.

37:12Which probably needs to be done.

37:14Well, yeah.

37:15As long as it's leaking.

37:16Yeah.

37:17There's probably no mold in there.

37:18Yeah.

37:19Oh god, yeah.

37:20No, no, no.

37:21That's not bad.

37:22Yeah.

37:23Yeah.

37:24So Sonya, what is our, our building's maintenance budget right now?

37:31I think I put like $150,000 in an arm for the roof shop and the landscaping and the fire hall.

37:38Okay.

37:39So we're getting, we're getting $127,000.

37:42Yeah.

37:43We got a match up by 25%.

37:45Yeah.

37:46That's what you meant.

37:47Is that what our total slick of money is, is $120,000?

37:50I was saying it was a flat $100,000.

37:52It was a little over $100,000.

37:54Was it?

37:55Yeah.

37:56Okay, well that's fine.

37:58But it's all included in the budget right now.

38:03Okay.

38:04So even if we go with the Cadillac repair or they just fix everything, we could go the

38:08full $47,500.

38:09$47,600.

38:10That's what you're saying.

38:11Because I mean, if we're going to do it, then if they're going to have everything tore apart,

38:16you know, you builders in the room can talk me out of this, but I wonder if we just have

38:22them do everything because they move.

38:24Well, I mean, you're adding a 10 year warranty to it.

38:27Right.

38:28With the second one.

38:29You're adding twice, I mean, damn near twice the thickness of the membrane.

38:35Yep.

38:36And gutters and new insulation.

38:38I mean, I would be in favor for the second one.

38:41Most definitely.

38:42To do it right.

38:44Okay.

38:45Steve, do you have an agreement too?

38:49I would.

38:50I'd get the best, I mean.

38:52Because I'm going to spend pulling teeth to get somebody else here.

38:56Especially if you end up do building a new fire hall.

39:00I mean, you can say, hey, this little one.

39:03Yeah, this building's worth way more money when we do it right.

39:06The first time rather than.

39:08Yeah.

39:09Okay.

39:10Well, I would entertain a motion that we approve at a higher teal brothers Ruffine

39:16for the amount of 47,559 to do everything that they have listed on the bid proposal.

39:27I'll make a motion to approve the bid proposal for two brothers for 47,559.

39:36Okay.

39:37Motion made.

39:38In all second.

39:39Seconded.

39:40Any discussion?

39:44Okay.

39:45Hearing none, all those in favor?

39:50Aye.

39:51Okay.

39:52All in favor, motion carries.

39:57Okay.

39:58Great.

39:59Greg's in Iowa.

40:07All right.

40:08Moving on.

40:09Let's just keep spending money.

40:11It's a new fiscal year.

40:13New year.

40:14Sonya said spend it.

40:16You're out of the way now, so you don't have to worry about it later.

40:22Okay.

40:23We're running out.

40:24We have our second management plan to use.

40:29So we can make sure we use up all of our slip up money.

40:33The state local infrastructure money.

40:36This one would be for the new shop.

40:39So I would entertain a motion that we approve the management plan to upgrade the cold storage

40:47building and repairing and replacing sidewalks and improving landscaping around city hall.

40:54Okay.

40:55Motion made.

40:56You have a second.

41:01All right.

41:05So motion made seconded to approve the management plan for landscaping sidewalks and a new shop.

41:15Any discussion?

41:21Okay.

41:22Hearing none.

41:23All those in favor?

41:24Aye.

41:25Motion carries.

41:27So once we have a scope of work on all that, we'll have to get that one out.

41:33Okay.

41:34And we're going to pay Gordy to build a scope for us to take it out.

41:39He came, I met with him over there, so.

41:42Okay.

41:43And then once it's, and he did suggest instead of doing a spray foam on that, bat insulated,

41:51just slid it because he says if you spray foam that, and if it gets hit on the outside,

41:57you can't peel the tin off and put new tin out.

42:00Well, and it's probably cheaper.

42:02Because it's all stuck together with the spray foam.

42:04So.

42:05Yeah.

42:06It's a lot cheaper.

42:07Yeah.

42:08Could you have spray foam?

42:09Spending.

42:10Spending for spending.

42:11So.

42:12So when the proposal that he's put together, the specs, he's got bat and so on.

42:17Okay.

42:18So he'll fur out at all balls with two by six then?

42:22No, there's enough room there for.

42:24Oh, there is.

42:25The poles.

42:26Oh, okay.

42:27Because the poles are on the, you know, they're split eight inch beams in there.

42:30Yeah.

42:31If it's in, so.

42:32Okay.

42:33Okay.

42:34Okay.

42:35Moving on to.

42:36Yeah.

42:37You have a packet of papers in front of you here for the nuisance ordinance properties.

42:50Ben, I guess you probably have already let your sister and brother on.

42:57Yeah.

42:58And then so when people complain about this, we can say city attorney.

43:03Okay.

43:04City attorney's family got one city.

43:06Is getting one city.

43:09He's one of his high school best friends is getting one.

43:14No.

43:15Yeah.

43:16We treat everybody equally.

43:18Our employees folks are getting one.

43:22But yeah, they're finally done.

43:24I apologize for all the delay and getting there.

43:27It did take a little while.

43:29It wasn't for nothing, but yeah, just.

43:34What's the work in progress?

43:35We still have two of those old ones that.

43:37Yeah.

43:38Yeah.

43:39Yeah.

43:40That's kind of keep, keep needling on it, but progress is being made.

43:45Well, we're proving that we can walk and chew gum at the same time.

43:49Right Sonia.

43:52Inside joke.

43:55We're angry public.

44:03So, um, I guess I would entertain.

44:07So, uh, Sonia, you probably have these on colored city letterhead with the pictures

44:15and supporting documents.

44:17And actually I, after I told you, I walked down here without my briefcase.

44:22So I don't have the sheets that I filled out the day that we went to Spectrum.

44:27So I will, I'll just scan and email those to you.

44:30And then you can match them up.

44:32Um, technically sending these letters has already been approved by the council.

44:36Whatever a couple months ago, I think.

44:38Yeah.

44:39So I don't know if this council needs to take any action on it.

44:42Okay.

44:43It's just kind of an FYI that they are done.

44:45If more people sign in today, it'll be out.

44:47Yeah.

44:48We get phone calls.

44:49Yes.

44:50Yeah.

44:51We're answering phone calls.

44:52Yeah, there you go.

44:53Considering half of them are on Timmons where I live.

44:56Yeah.

44:57Timmons and Parker.

45:01Yeah.

45:02Pretty rough shapes.

45:03Yeah.

45:04And you have signed yet on it.

45:06Yep.

45:07I'll sign them all and get those too.

45:09Yeah.

45:10And the photos I have, if anybody acquires like we documented it, I don't think we sent those

45:16out with the letters.

45:17Didn't?

45:18I was thinking we did, but maybe we didn't.

45:20I can't remember.

45:22Maybe they could request.

45:23I know that letter refers to the sheet, like the sheet will be enclosed in a copy of the

45:29ordinance.

45:30Yeah.

45:31I think that's all we did last week.

45:32Yeah.

45:33We sent letters with, like, literally asked people to cut their lawns and stuff.

45:37I was sent a letter about it.

45:39Especially to the people out of town.

45:41I've just got all the photos uploaded into a Google drive.

45:45You know, that's timestamped and whatever else.

45:48People want to see what we saw or are curious, like which one does specifically show them.

45:57Okay.

45:58And I guess related to this, I spoke with Bo Reaver.

46:02It's about that rental house he has that's on 1st Avenue there.

46:07That guy seems to be accumulating.

46:10Bo was real cordial about it.

46:12He made actually a really funny joke and he said, you know, it took me a little bit to

46:16clean up Wayne's world.

46:18I was thinking the same thing the other day.

46:21I'm like, it just spilled over.

46:23Yeah.

46:24So anyway, he said he was going to speak with him and he said if there's no change, he was

46:32going to, you know, consider terminating the rent agreement.

46:35And he'd just go over to the skids here and dump trailer and clean it up.

46:39So I think he's finding every stick and branch and piece of lumber and Daniel's County and

46:45stacking it in that yard for some reason.

46:47There's a lot of stuff there.

46:49And I told Bo, we go for a walk, you know, a couple of mornings a week.

46:53And, you know, he leaves the front door wide open so dogs are running in and out, which,

46:58you know, teach their own.

47:00But like, that's not his house.

47:02Like I would treat your guys's house like that, you know, and then to have to live with

47:07all the flies that are probably living in there now and other bugs.

47:10Like I just don't, it just don't, I told Bo it didn't make sense to me and I felt he

47:16should be aware of what I see.

47:19So we'll see.

47:21I don't expect that to be cleaned up overnight, but I'm hoping to see some activity here,

47:27maybe within by the end of the month or something.

47:31So we'll see.

47:36Okay, so no public again.

47:42Coming agenda items.

47:44Are we going to set the public hearing for the first, our first meeting in August?

47:48In September.

47:49In September then.

47:50Okay.

47:51September 10.

47:53We'll be the public hearing dates for the budgets.

47:56We don't even have the numbers yet from the Department of Revenue or anything.

48:00I got to wait.

48:02We got to advertise it.

48:04Yeah.

48:05And unless the council says otherwise, we're just going to do it right with the council

48:10meeting instead of an additional meeting in need.

48:14So I don't think we'd get any other people if we did it at a different time.

48:23Anyway, we'll advertise it if we go from there.

48:30Yeah, sewer eight, we're going to.

48:34You got to pay for the pivot.

48:38Yeah.

48:39So have to do a little increase there to kind of keep up with things which are 5% isn't

48:46that much when they're sewers at 30 something dollars or whatever.

48:50Yeah.

48:51Yeah.

48:52Yeah.

48:53Okay.

48:54So last item on the agenda would be your consent items.

49:08You've got a chance to review them.

49:15I would entertain a motion to approve.

49:25Hello.

49:27Motion made.

49:29Wait a second.

49:31I'll second it.

49:32Okay.

49:33Motion made seconded to approve the consent items.

49:37Any questions?

49:41Okay.

49:42Hearing none.

49:43All those in favor?

49:44Hi.

49:45Hi.

49:46All right.

49:47Motion carries.

49:50And with that, I would entertain a motion to adjourn.

49:56Yes, sir.

49:59So I wonder if there's going to be some pretty significant changes with organizations like

50:06the DEQ and EPA and everything with that Chevron treaty.

50:10That Chevron.

50:11Definitely.

50:12That's what I wanted to kind of.