Councilman Axtman.
Here.
Larson.
Here.
French.
Here.
Crowder.
Here.
Alright.
Your packets the agenda for today's meeting.
I would entertain a motion to adopt.
So moved.
Seconded.
Okay.
Motion made seconded.
Any discussion?
Okay.
Hearing none.
All those in favor?
Aye.
Aye.
Aye.
Alright.
The minutes from September 24th.
I would entertain a motion to approve.
So moved.
Second.
Okay.
We have a motion made seconded.
Is there any discussion?
Questions?
Corrections?
Conservatives?
Okay.
Hearing none.
All those in favor?
Aye.
Aye.
Alright.
The minutes are official.
Okay.
Now we will open bids.
First bid up would be the city shop.
We have one.
Which is 100% more than I thought we were going to get at one point.
Morning, Mr. and Mrs. Sheriff.
Morning, Mr. Mayor.
City Councilman.
Morning.
And everyone else that's in the room.
To include your bed.
Okay.
So we have a bid from Librand Construction.
VBA L&L Construction.
So sidewalks from the system landscape.
$19,087.50.
50 foot tube headers.
Heaters.
Excuse me.
$8720.
$4320 square feet to insulate.
Steel finish.
The interior walls.
$28,620.
Alien finish.
$45,000 square feet.
$33,750.
Interior framing doors.
Bathroom lumber plumbing.
$22,596.
Says please add in for electrical zero.
But then back here we have.
Looks like from Kenland Drude.
All wiring specified to drawings.
Permits.
Out in indoor outdoor lighting and outlets.
Indoor outdoor exit lighting.
Heater wiring.
Ceiling fans.
Washer dryer.
Road patch machine.
A heat outlet.
Well there.
Compressor.
Bathroom wiring.
Emergency lighting.
Total price.
$24,750.99.
So looks like the L&L construction is total is $112,773.90.
And then Ken's would be $24,750.99.
So I will pass this around.
All we're doing is opening the bid.
That's the only one we got.
So further down on the agenda we will discuss what to do with that.
So next up will be the lease Hayland.
We got two.
Both received on time.
We received this one first at 1.31pm.
Okay so City of Scobey.
Hayland Grazing Offers.
Got Susig.
150 West Susig Routes.
Scobey Montana 5263.
80 acres of Hayland.
$42.55 per acre is his offer.
$3,404 bid per year for five years.
Okay so we will pass that around.
And then received the same bid on October 4th at 3.20pm.
We'll talk about this one then.
I'm not going to read the whole thing.
60 acres of irrigated land.
$70 an acre.
20 acres dry land.
$30 an acre.
Total $4,800 annually.
Says we suggest to reduce the first two years of the lease due to the condition of the land.
And he added time and input needed.
There's a whole...
I'm not going to read this whole paragraph.
Sonia can we just make four copies of this so each...
And did you say who that's from?
Oh I'm sorry.
I missed the very top line.
Farber Corp.
P.O. Bucks 25.
Scobey Montana.
Four copies?
Yes please.
I'm not going to read that whole thing.
I can't read good anyway.
What's that political name?
Margaret.
I want to do that as a joke to the kids on these days and say please read such and such.
For such and such first it just lists all the unpronounceable names of...
An exodus.
Yeah exactly.
We haven't do it in front of the congregation.
Because the Lord had a sense of humor.
That's true.
Thank you.
What's that?
Okay so bids are open.
We will discuss this further on down the line.
Again we have one bid for the shop and two bids for the irrigated hayland.
Okay so Steve, public comment.
I don't have any public comment.
Oh okay how about public works then?
Can I jump in on public?
Sure I was going to leave you with the sheriffs but go ahead.
Okay so that's kind of hard to separate myself from public to the sheriffs.
But publicly out there in the public I keep getting approached about John Holly.
Really cool John Holly.
No but I keep getting approached out in the public about John Holly and the situation with him.
You say in the public that you're at the store and they're coming up to you.
Not just the people coming down and filing a complaint.
Yes.
So it's obviously quite the issue.
I guess we could talk about this on the sheriff's side also but they want to know what the city's going to do about this.
Because I mean I've been a parcel, I wrote Tim and you know I've been a parcel library.
I obviously see that this is a crazy situation.
And now you know and obviously we see the Facebook comments and everything going on there.
It's becoming quite a problem here.
So and here comes winter.
This guy's in this vehicle.
It's, this is just not good.
Yeah.
At all.
And it's concerning that those dogs do not get out of that vehicle.
I mean they're probably defecating in that vehicle and everything.
It's becoming a sanitary situation.
And I, it's sad.
It's really sad.
So I think, I think the city really needs to kind of push this a little bit harder.
And I don't know.
Like we've got to figure out something.
I don't think it's a city issue.
I think it's a law enforcement issue.
Yeah.
I mean we have, we'll get to this when the sheriff's thinking.
Yeah.
I mean if there's no city new ordinance to take care of everything,
we've got to go off the state ordinance, right?
We'll get to this.
Yeah.
So that's, that's just my thought.
Yeah.
I mean mostly when I jump straight to me right now.
Yeah.
So that's just as my public comment.
Okay.
No.
Yeah.
No.
And I'm glad that I mean we, most of us saw the Facebook stuff posted and none of it is new information.
And, you know, we are, I'm grateful we live where we live because people are concerned for him.
Even though he's, it's, it's a new sense of a situation.
You know, people who aren't related to him don't know him, aren't involved in any capacity
other than just living here.
Right.
Are trying to figure out, you know, what can we do?
I'm not saying that you guys don't care.
That's not what I'm trying to say here.
It's not, I hope that didn't come out wrong.
I just think that we just got to push a little harder here and figure this out.
Yeah.
It's hard when, you know, we live where we live, which again, thank God.
And I mean, America not so much just scoby.
We can't force him to go anywhere.
I think Greg mentioned last meeting about if you could even get him into the state hospital.
He'd walk right out within 72 hours or whatever.
Like there's, there's no way to legally hold them in a facility.
I do know there was an individual who reached out to me who was working with mental health,
both local and outside of scoby trying to get him an appointment for an evaluation of some sort.
I don't know the status of that.
This was last week, so it might not have gained much traction yet.
But yeah, it's unfortunate.
All's all say is we have the sheriff working on it.
We have city and county attorneys who are well aware of the situation.
If there was a slam dunk answer to it, we would have already gotten to it.
Unfortunately, there's just not a way to do anything and to forcibly do anything.
Unless we catch him doing something illegal and I know all the comments,
not going to reread what was there, but it had to do with, you know, littering, intoxication and everything in between.
So, bye.
I thank you for listening to me on the public side.
But I think he's got more to say on the sheriff side.
Sure.
Okay, well, we'll get Ripple B to there very shortly.
So Steve, let's hit public works.
Okay, well, so I did look at the fire siren.
When we looked at it, it was working still, but it wasn't as loud.
I contacted the technician for centuries siren.
He thought at that time that the problem was when that one was made,
there was very few of that style made because there's dampeners up top with separate motors in it.
And those dampeners when you start up are supposed to open and that creates more airflow,
which makes the siren louder.
So he thought at that time that it was those dampeners were bad.
So he was going to top with a technician and see if we could just go up there and bend the dampeners open.
So it would be louder, but now it sounds like it doesn't work at all.
So I'll contact him again today and see what.
Last time I talked to him, he said the technician, they don't have any, you know,
when they're close to us besides where they're based out of, which is Colorado.
So then they had technicians out a few weeks.
So I'll contact him and see what they can do.
Okay, did we, who owns the siren?
Maybe the folder I had became a part of it.
We don't have it listed.
I would bet money.
It would have to be the county.
Yeah.
I don't know if this is part of the tornado siren.
Yeah.
I mean, at some point, somebody paid to have that thing installed and that thing's been there ever since I can remember it.
I think that the letter that's dated when they got the quote and everything for it was like 85 or 84 or something like that.
They bought that siren for like $5,200.
So who bought it?
That's what they're trying to figure out.
That's what we're trying to figure out because it just says fire department on it.
Yeah.
We don't know who wrote the chat.
We don't know who wrote the chat because it doesn't have a receipt.
It just has an estimate and it was given fire department.
I think Donnie Hammer turned it over to us that came from the fire department.
And then, you know, whose land is the poll on?
It's almost between, it's like it's in half on the city and half on the county's lot there.
Neil talked to the commissioners about it, right?
He did.
Yep.
And they're willing.
They know it needs to be fixed.
We just, you know, I know we're going to get it fixed, but it should be nice to figure out the financial stuff along the way, too.
We just, you know, they pay half, we pay half.
I told Neil, I don't know where the, which budget item it would come out of.
I said it may come out of your county fire budget.
And then for us, it might come out of the city fire budget.
So, and I'm fine with that because I think why you can maybe correct me, but we're pretty much up to date on everybody having new enough gear.
You know, the models are good, the system, you know, refills.
I mean, I think we've fixed about everything on our, and the trucks.
I know we could always use new trucks, but I mean, let them along another year or two or five.
Well, especially for what this is going to cost.
I mean, I don't think it's going to be enough.
I don't think it is.
I mean, even if you buy a new siren, the one that we have is about $7,000.
And then do we want to do this same type of siren, you know, or do we want to do one like what's on the water tower?
Because if we wanted to do something different, you know, now would be the time to have that conversation.
And then you base it on how far you want it to be heard to, you know.
So anyway, well, we're working on that.
We'll hopefully have some, find somebody who's willing to take a look at it, repair it.
You had mentioned that almost every town around here's got one.
Yeah.
Or they could be somebody that would serve in the state at least.
Yeah, or they come from western North Dakota or something.
They come from other counties.
At all.
What's that?
Have we reached out to any other counties?
I don't know.
I haven't know.
He's been working on that.
And he might have, I'm not quite sure.
This is as it doesn't have to get.
I don't know.
He searched the, he searched up the serial number and stuff on it.
I gave him the model number and everything.
And that's what he determined.
Okay.
Um, yeah.
So more to come on the siren.
We're, we're going to keep doing research on it and find some of the work on it and figure
out the, if it's fixable, what the estimate would be.
Oh, it does.
It does contain.
Oh, okay.
Um, Steve, I saw, I stopped at northern border this morning to pay a bill on the way here.
And I saw a green dumpster and helix.
Yep.
There's one there.
And then there's a couple on the other side of town.
They're got to be picked up.
I didn't get a chance to get him yesterday since it was by myself.
Okay.
We'll get him.
We moved him around.
Oh, oh, after they blew.
He's in the middle of the road.
Sure.
Okay.
Yeah.
We were sitting on Main Street yesterday.
There's one over in the football field.
There's a trash can in the middle of the football field.
It's now up against the fence.
It's football fields.
And it's in the football field.
I just left it where I was sitting because it's where it belongs.
Yeah.
Sounds good.
Okay.
Um, all right.
What else we got for public works?
Uh, yeah.
Yeah.
So we had, we're going to be picking three branches.
And that's probably throughout the week.
There's a lot of them down.
Okay.
Um, and the pivot's running now.
So we're trying to get it down, drop down for winter.
So we'll be running pretty much every day.
We'll be turning it on and off.
So, okay.
That's about it.
I think we did get seven of the nine lights working in the pool.
So, nice.
At a cost.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's only about $5,000, but we got them.
We're at about seven now.
Did they just keep getting wet?
Is that what's happening?
Is that water gets in time?
Well, two of them had broken wires.
And so we had to pull them out and then we tried to pull up.
The one we knew we couldn't pull because it was all the way around the pool.
But the other one was right below where you come out, life arts come out.
And we pulled the one wire out with a string on it.
So we can pull the other one in there while we couldn't pull it through there.
And then I got to look and this is like, here's where the conduit comes to the back of the pool.
And here's where the light pole is.
So the PVC broke off of that adapter and it barely shifts over.
So our string broke while we were pulling it in there.
And then we tried to vacuum a new line through there.
And I'm sure if that's broke there, it's probably had water in it and it broke.
And then the other ones, I'm sure they were just gaskets failed on them.
The gaskets probably broke on it and then got water in them.
So we replaced all the gaskets and new lights and we'll see where it goes, I guess.
Okay, so I guess kind of under public works here, this could go under council comments.
But should we put an ad in the paper to remind people to start getting campers,
vehicles off the streets, you know, because it could snow tomorrow or in four months.
There's a lot of water.
And the reason I say that is in connection with that would be the complaint we had about the gravel that's dumped on the street.
Maybe we put in there, you know, with winter approaching.
Let's get campers, vehicles, construction materials.
Yeah, I saw that the other day.
Eight yards of gravel moved off the street.
What do you think about the gravels?
I've hit that hard enough with the blade to throw it on the boulevard.
How long has that been?
That's this spring, I think.
No, it was dirt at one time.
Yeah, that dirt was put on the boulevard and now it's gravel.
I just noticed it on Saturday, so I don't know.
I noticed it yesterday, watching it about as much as maybe 10 days.
So, can you pile construction materials on the streets?
Probably not.
I mean, I would think it would be blocking the public right away and I think that would be a ticket.
So I've been down there for a couple, is there more dumped there now?
There was block, belly dumps full.
I mean, it's different if you dump it on there as you're loading it in the yard and you dump there the same day.
That's a full side dump.
Yeah, that's a full belly dump loaded.
It's 15 or 20 yards.
I would think it could just dump stuff on the floor.
Yeah, it's at least four car blocks long.
Probably not.
Okay, well, so yeah, maybe we can work on something to get in the paper too late for this week.
But, you know, if it goes in next week or the week after.
Yeah.
Do you need gravel, Steve?
Do you need gravel?
I could use some on my county road.
And then, is there, are you going to do any alley work with dump and gravel on it?
Not so much with that attachment, but.
Yeah, there's some spots we've got to do still.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay, does anybody have any other comments for public works?
Okay.
And Steve, we got a couple zoning permits here.
I think one zoning and one is a demo, I think, isn't it?
Well, it's so good.
It's probably about the title system is on there.
That's the demo permit.
That's the demo.
Okay, well mine has the 203 second street.
I have it.
Okay, yeah.
Oh, and then the packet is another one.
So all that's on the agenda then is the demo permit.
Okay.
He was working on it yesterday, didn't he?
Is this a shed or something?
No, it was the Gilbertson house across the street from the cattle church.
Oh, oh.
Just south of Brosnick, south of Brosnick?
Yeah.
I saw the excavator parked there the other day.
It's not there anymore.
Yeah.
Not the excavator, but the house is gone.
The house is gone?
Yeah, it's flat.
Well, I was working on it yesterday.
Okay.
Yeah.
I'll have to go take a look.
It sure opens that area up.
No clue.
Okay, well.
So included in your packet is the permit that didn't get on the agenda.
Okay, the one for foresight.
Yeah, hold that red one.
I've added it.
I'll come and email it, but she doesn't miss that one.
Oh, okay.
So we need to just put it on the next agenda.
Okay.
Well, let's see if you've left off on it.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, I guess at this time I'll entertain a motion that we approve the zoning permit
for 506 tenants.
Demo permit.
Demo permit.
Demo permit that's on the zoning permit sheet.
I would approve that.
I would move that we approve that demo permit for 10th Street.
And I'll second that.
They're free.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
That's more information.
When are they going to demo it?
Right down there.
Down there.
I thought they were going to pop that one down first.
Okay, any discussion?
Okay.
All those in favor?
Aye.
Okay.
Okay.
And then we have a zoning meeting tomorrow.
Okay.
Three.
We have two.
Three.
Three?
Three people doing stuff here.
That's our crew.
Okay.
Why are your chiefs real quick?
How much it does.
A couple of weeks ago we did host testing on one of our trucks.
He was working on the siren.
Still cleaning up, getting ready for the rain coming up.
Next month?
I don't know.
Be quiet.
Okay.
Quiet is good.
Thankfully.
It wasn't good.
Three big ones.
All right.
So Wyatt, does anyone have anything for Wyatt?
Okay.
Thank you for coming, Wyatt.
Sheriff.
Where should we start?
You just start every you wish.
I had 151 incidents.
Last month.
John, how are we situation?
Yeah, we, I'm working in...
I'm working in collaboration with both lawyers, city and county.
Montana does not have a vagrancy law.
In fact, they have a law against creating a law for vagrancy.
So, vagrancy is not an option in the state of Montana.
You cannot write somebody for that.
I've been approached about writing him a citation for parking on the street.
Anybody that parks on the street will not get a citation if he gets one.
It doesn't matter.
You know, I cannot make a law to enforce a law.
We're not going to, this office isn't going to do it.
As far as the animals go, we might be able to hit them with animal cruelty for confinement of those dogs.
Can't hit them for, okay, well, they live, he lives in a vehicle.
It's a minimal shelter.
Am I wrong, Ben?
You have to give them minimal food and minimal shelter.
That's going to be, I mean, I'll have to...
It'll be a stretch to get...
Yeah, and I'd have to defer to Logan because he's got multiple dogs in there,
which means it's a potential felony, multiple counts, yeah.
He has two of them.
Yeah.
So, he's going to be the one to make that decision,
which I'm not just trying to pass the buck,
but that's where the jurisdiction is.
If anybody's interested in mine, so we've also taken action on it.
It's our own size.
We can hit them.
Is there...
Something that doesn't smell right?
Coming from this vehicle?
Yes, there is.
Now, you can go ahead and write them 57 public news and citations.
They compound daily.
Now, I can write one today, you can write one tomorrow,
so on and so forth, all the way through to the end of time.
Where does that bring us as city, as county?
Where does that bring us?
Okay, he doesn't pay.
It's fine.
Now, it gets a warrant for his arrest.
Where does he come back to?
Right back to Scobie.
So, enforcing a law that doesn't exist to move them along, we can't do it.
Enforcing laws that bring them right back into Scobie.
We're still, I mean, we're going to move them from one side of the street to the other.
People say, well, he's parked out in front of the school.
He can't be there.
He's not a sexual deviant.
He's not on the SBOR, which means he can park there.
I mean, everyone else parks there, but why can't he?
Just because his truck stinks?
That's the only public news and thing that I got.
His truck stinks.
So, his truck stinks because he's collecting his feces in the truck?
Because it's not okay.
What about the county sanitary?
That's where the sanitation comes in.
I think if stuff like that is going on, you potentially have an involuntary commitment sort of situation.
Now, you know, that way you provide for basic needs.
Going to talk to bring up, yes, it's been brought up.
Can I go ahead and arrest him for being mentally unstable?
I'm not a doctor.
Yeah, I can't go in there and say, yeah, you are mentally unstable.
That's where it came to me with the people that are intent on going arrest him for being mentally unstable.
I've got citizens coming in saying, I've got 47 sheets of paper that says that an individual that has this is potentially crazy.
I'm not a doctor.
I can't go off a potential.
You know, I have to be able to see, witness, and be able to say, yes, this is what's going on.
Now, does he urinate on the side of a building?
Yes.
I've been told numerous times he urinates on the side of the building.
How do we move him along?
It's a public library.
He uses the internet, but as far as my understanding and my brain for like the city, public internet is public internet.
You can use it.
Now that they want to move him along, change the password.
The library is not going to change the password.
Exactly.
Which I love as a public.
But for my take, they're not going to change it.
I don't think they're obligated to, nor really should they.
They probably don't even have a password on it, honestly.
And yes, not.
Do they have that one?
Yep, there's a password on it.
Sorry to not try to catch you off, but honestly, I think it'd probably be worth maybe you, Logan, and I getting together and talking about that, you know, that mental health route.
And I realize I'm not the county attorney here.
Can I also add maybe you, Logan, and Kim, Kim, getting together and talking about this, because I think she needs to be added into this, because there's a mental health situation here.
Is she with the county?
She's with the clinic.
She's a part of the mental health program that we have here.
Am I wrong?
Great.
I'm honestly not certain.
I know that that position has some state funding for, I think, three years.
So I don't know how she tied it.
The plan was that she would develop a program such that it would be self-replicating after that three years.
Well, would you have to bring in the county health nurse, and then that person would reach out and bring in...
So, yeah, really broad strokes and trying to not, you know, get too bogged down in the weeds here.
But basically, you know, you can have just facts, whether it's a doctor or not, that indicate somebody might be suffering from a mental disorder.
And as a result of that, they can't meet their own basic needs, food, clothing, shelter, whatever else.
If that's actually happening, and even, for example, we had a gal in Sheridan County that was, just by the way she was talking,
clearly delusional, and she was like spraying water at the outlets in her house.
So, I mean, you can imagine that's, that was...
She needed to do something with her.
And on that basis, you know, we were able to do an emergency hold.
She's not under arrest, but she was escorted by law enforcement up to the hospital.
She was evaluated there by a professional person, found to be suffering from a mental disorder, and from there, pawned.
And we worked through the state hospital procedure, which has its own issues, but you at least have to get, you know, the ball rolling there.
I don't know all the details of this, and so I'm not expressing an opinion whether it would qualify or not.
But I would say that it's worth a conversation, I guess, with Logan.
And I'm happy to be there too, at whatever I can, to the conversation, but see if it meets the criteria.
And if it does, you know, I think that's your best avenue, because as you said, there's really...
He's not doing anything illegal, nor is it illegal to be mentally ill in Montana, thankfully so.
But yeah, I mean, he does need help, and it's one of those situations where he's not going to do it.
Then, you know, if he meets those criteria, there is that process there.
Yeah, but I know multiple people to include the Sheriff's Office has offered to put him up in rooms.
Just to do it, and he refuses any help of whatsoever except for fuel carts and food.
Now, if he is actively asking for fuel carts and for food, and people just aren't giving it out,
they're kind of their hearts, solicitation is another one.
But everyone just keeps saying, no, we donated food, we'll go put money on his cart or on his tab down at D.C. Lange's.
He's got a tab at D.C. Lange's that people put money on, people bring him food.
So...
I would, I'd like to interject a little bit if I could.
Just a suggestion for the group when you get together to have that discussion.
I think you might bear some fruit in going after the animal cruelty business.
I mean, the reason he's in that truck is because of those animals.
That's but the best my understanding.
And if he doesn't have animals, he doesn't have reason to be in that truck.
He has reason to be elsewhere.
And I think that might be a lot less complicated than going down a mental health route.
That's a huge rabbit hole that everybody's going to get lost in for weeks, if not years.
My big thing is I just don't want to have case law written against Scoby or Daniels County, my office, city council.
We don't want to be on the map for anything like that.
So if, if you get him for a public nuisance or whatever, and he doesn't do the ticket, and he gets a warrant, and he gets arrested, correct?
Yes.
So then you can get him away from the dogs, get the dogs to Wolf Point Pound puppies, and he, there you go.
And then if he doesn't have the dogs, then there's a room setting for him at the piner in if he didn't have the dogs.
Can they be evaluated when they go to jail?
Is there any sort of...
Yeah, that's a possibility too.
Yeah, that makes it easier I think.
Once they're in a facility, then that can be mentally evaluated or something like that.
Well, we've heard the rumors, we've heard the rumors of him drinking alcohol.
And then everyone's saying, well you guys sit and watch him.
Yeah.
I've sat behind that vehicle for two to three hours, never gets out of it.
Do I ever see him drinking any alcohol?
I've never seen him drinking any alcohol.
I've sat in front and watched him.
Nothing happens.
So he's aware that we are around the area and watching him.
100% aware of it.
I think some of the concerns from the parents are coming though.
We don't want to retell something that does happen.
Exactly.
Well, he spent all the last winter in his vehicle as well.
Yeah, but he's getting worse daily, I believe.
I judged for a couple of years ago and I know him.
So question to the firemen, if there is defecation and possible urination in the pickup and he's smoking in there,
is that going to create a fire hazard?
I mean, it's already a hazard to his health.
He shouldn't be breathing that in.
It's going to be more of a health hazard than a fire hazard.
It's going to take a mess load of feces to create methane.
And without having the actual brain correct and if I'm wrong, humans aren't going to create enough methane.
There has to be tons of it.
He's not going to create that much in there.
He's not 100, is he?
He's not 100.
No, we've already tried that throughout too.
I was told he's a veteran and I've approached that, you know.
Yeah, it's a shame.
I mean, we've had two mild winters.
We have a harsh one.
We don't want to make it any more close.
But am I concerned about his overall health?
Yes.
Am I still concerned about public safety?
100%.
It seems like that there's more up against it.
I think, citing him for public nuisance, if you end up going down the mental health road,
would add some fuel to the fire, as far as him being less than mentally competent.
You've expressed to him that you think there's a problem with that.
You've cited him so that he understands that's a problem.
And he's not dealing with it.
So that may help your mental health angle through the down road.
And it may facilitate getting him evaluated.
Okay.
And I think, yeah.
More documenting.
Every single complaint that comes out.
Yeah.
Clint, I think it'd be worth you and me and Logan sitting down too,
because based on some of the past experiences with animal cruelty cases here in the city of Scobie,
I think there is an angle in that way too.
Yeah.
I'll have to schedule a time to figure out when both of you and Logan can be free with him.
Yep.
Can I at least an hour of walk, please?
Yep, that's fine.
But we'll do it.
Yeah.
We'll be around even this week.
Okay.
And then, other than that, Rex had his baby, came home for a week.
He's back there.
He graduates November 8th.
Okay, it leaves January 24th, I think.
His car's the 26th.
How's we got going on in there?
Um, yeah.
It's been a long one.
Okay, I know you got some computers through a grant here recently.
Yes, that happens.
Our new friend, Kashia.
Yeah.
She reached out to the Spirit of Blue, which is a corporation that helps out with law enforcement.
We've got six new tough books.
We're, um, we'll eventually go into what you're working on.
She's working on another grant.
It will hopefully provide us vehicles in the future.
But computers for vehicles and two extra for dispatch that if we were to ever have to leave dispatch,
we could still have access to be able to work with law enforcement outside of dispatch.
To hopefully have a mobile unit.
So it's a start to be able to put together a mobile unit.
So, um, and they're amazing in it.
Each one of those tough books she sent costs about $4,000 a piece.
So, um, and along with that, they also are sending four, six or four tourniquets.
I don't know.
I don't think about six tourniquets to carry or to have for our deputies.
It's just as a bonus to talk about.
So, um, these guys are amazing and so we just got to get it all hooked up with everybody.
Get everything that we need on them.
We still have to send them or get them programmed or however.
Yeah, maybe we can get everything.
The CGN people or DIS just so that we can access certain things in the table.
But I'm working on that right now with them.
That's her right.
So, but we're pretty excited.
The girl came down and took a picture of them opening that and seeing their brand new tough books.
And they come, they'll send us the mounts and everything to go in the vehicles along with that.
Okay.
Anybody have any questions for additional comments or questions for sure?
Okay.
Thank you, sir.
Okay.
We will keep trucking along here.
Council comments.
Pretty quiet actually.
Yeah.
Even with the storm and everything else, everything seems to stay open.
Thank you.
Yeah.
I mean, we lost street lights up on our corner.
Smith and Timmons.
Oh.
All those are out.
Just an FYI.
MDU came through, we called it in and said there was a line down.
MDU came in and rolled it all up, put it away so that the street was safe.
That was about it.
That's all effective was the street lights?
Just the street lights.
No power.
Nope.
Good.
Okay.
Yeah, I haven't received much either.
Okay.
No news is good news.
Okay.
Next item looks like it is awarded the bid for the Hailees.
So, you know, we didn't put award bid for, oh, I'm sorry.
There it is.
It's on there.
Yep.
So, we have two bids.
Just looking at some numbers here.
So, it looks like the offer for, from Farver Corp is higher, but they're asking for a reduced
rate for the first two years because of the condition of the land.
And I, I can understand why.
So, I guess just everyone took a look at the offer from Scott Suseg.
Again, his number across the board was just $3,404 a year.
Farver Corp is 4,800 annually, but of course asking for a reduced rate.
So, I guess at this time I'll entertain a motion that we accept the offer from Farver Corp.
And then of course we can have some discussion, but yeah, I'll entertain a motion that we approve
the offer from Farver Corp.
I'll move it.
We accept the offer from Farver.
I'll second it.
Okay.
Motion made.
Seconded.
Okay.
So, discussion.
I'll give everyone a minute to read that.
If they haven't already, I'm not going to read it out loud.
And for the people listening on the recording, this will be available by request.
Suffice to say, it's a pretty detailed plan.
It is a detailed plan for sure.
So, I mean, it seems to me everything we had talked about had to be done.
And what's to even for bros that had to be done, they kind of covered it all in the...
Ben, did you hear from the lawyer?
J.C.L.'s attorney, yes.
I've been in contact with him on this.
He did, as this indicated.
I also spoke with Terry Farver briefly, too, just to kind of clarify the process as far as the bid goes.
But I've been in contact with Ryan Paine.
It is true that J.C.L., I guess, is in favor of Farver getting the lease because they have a good working relationship.
It appears.
From my perspective, I'm glad that the bid is also higher, so that doesn't really create much of a conflict.
Obviously, we've had some back-and-forth on notifications and various other things.
I mean, I think there is some benefit if Terry Farver and Jonathan Leigh can get along and try to operate a little bit better together
and be quieter on the city front, which is, I think, all we want is to be able to operate the pivot
and go about our business without involving attorneys as much as possible.
So I do want it noted in the minutes that there were two other interested parties.
After careful consideration, they declined to submit an offer for the reason that they felt it was unnecessary
to have to provide 24-hour notice to J.C.L. when they were going to be going down to do work on that land.
So I would have to agree.
That's what an easement is for.
Speaking of the easement, can we buy that?
No.
Can we buy the road?
Yeah, that was initially brought up not long after the sale was closed, but it was not a serious offer.
Okay, so we are in the discussion still.
So do we have a sense of what a reduced rate would be in Terry Farver's eyes?
That's the only thing.
The good thing about this is it's not quite as formal as the water line construction contracts.
So we've got his offer and his plan.
I think there's still some real negotiating details of that.
Do we have to get that number out right now?
Well, I don't think Terry provided it to us, so I don't know if the city knows exactly.
My thought would be it's overall going to end up likely higher than what I was going to do.
My initial thought was if he's looking for a two-year reduced rate,
for the first two years we've dropped it down to what this offer was,
3404, and then years 3-5 would it go to his bid of 4,800?
Is that a fair?
Yeah, so maybe my advice would be because there's going to inevitably have to be a little more discussion here,
but maybe the motion then needs to be to pursue a lease with Farver Court on those terms,
and then we've got the draft lease that we shared with them as well.
But if you'd like, I can talk to Terry and get him a draft,
and we can hammer out the details and then come back with a final final or whatever
for approval by the council to enter into that lease.
Do we need to amend the motion?
I guess the motion was basically made to award the bid to Farver Court.
So I'd probably have to amend the motion.
You know, any one or two things.
You can move to award the bid conditioned upon a mutually agreeable lease agreement being executed.
So all you'd have to add to that would be to amend the motion to be conditional upon agreement between both parties?
On the lease agreement.
So Steve, I see he wants to cede it to the Screeping Gears and Fox Tale.
I mean, is this something that he has to discuss with the EPA?
I thought the whole thing was that we had to have an alfalfa.
Alfa, grass, or mix.
And it can't be ceded to grass unless there's over 40 acres irrigated is what it says.
If you look at Google, it looks like it's about a little over 50 is what's actually irrigated.
So he can plant grass in there, but it has to be for, it can't be for human consumption.
It's got to be paid.
Because I called because there was one of the other bids that was interested and wanted to know if they could plant barley in there.
That's why I called Greg and discussed it with Greg and that's what Greg said.
It's designed for grass, grass hay mix or alfalfa.
Okay, because hay barley is considered a grass.
Yes, hay barley is a grass.
Okay, so any other discussion we're going to kind of pause here while Sonia.
Sonia, what do you have for the motion?
I'm going to read that back.
Councilman, perhaps seconded it by Councilman Crowder to accept the offer from Faroe Corporation and then discussion occurred.
Okay, essentially what we need to have happen.
I think it would be, you know, in subject to.
Subject to agreement between all parties on lease reduction.
Because again, yeah, they're suggesting it, they're not requiring it.
It's not a conditional, but I think that needs to be hammered out.
Okay.
Okay, so we've got that.
And yeah, so we're not going to use the city as a middleman here.
You will work directly with Terry.
I can work with Terry, you know, and then come back for the next meeting with final lease.
And I guess just for my edification, the council's kind of consensus would be the first two years if we're going to drop it, drop it to one, the other bid was correct.
Okay, yeah.
So if I come back with a lease that says that then presumably everybody would be okay with that.
Okay.
Get rid of that one.
Excellent.
Okay, any, any other discussion?
Okay, you're done.
All those in favor?
All right.
Okay.
Motion carries.
We have, we don't have a lease yet, but we're further along than we've ever had.
Okay, Steve, garbage truck quote.
Yeah, so that's the quote.
Get a new body for our current truck now.
So they would take our truck and take our body off, put a new body on it, since our truck is still in decent shape.
And then there's a list of options there for warranties and such you could add on top if you want.
Okay, so they're giving us 2,400 bucks for a scorpion body?
Yeah, scrap price basically.
Steve, that was, we were told that was the Cadillac.
It probably was before it got sold.
That company got sold like three times.
There's been three different owners to that daddy scorpion truck since we've had that truck.
Okay.
So, and the part of, and the reason why we're all looking at Coy's in Ohio is just because of the service issues we've had with the scorpion.
Sure.
Because they're based in Washington.
And these guys have an office in Great Falls and Billings if we need to take the truck to to get it worked on.
We're going to take it to them.
And the last time we had trouble, we had EK repair and round up, we drove the truck to round up and he fixed it.
Well, he had to call the people in Spokane.
The people in Spokane had to call the people in Arizona and wait for the people from Arizona to call back Spokane and then they would have to call back Ed.
Because they wouldn't, they wouldn't let Ed just call Arizona to work on the truck.
So, that basically the service issue is why we're looking at getting this high old one.
And it's also a fully jacked truck, which works better for our landfill, our dump situation because it pushes the garbage out.
And now we have a dump bed.
So, you go out there and half the time you're trying to dump your bed going uphill.
Yeah.
So.
And it'll work better if we got to dump it to the containers, right?
Yeah.
Because it's back right up to it and it'll push it right.
Basically, it'll push it in there most of the way.
You know, your dump bed you got up and then you're leaving a little street behind you and you're pulling ahead.
You got to push it in.
Oh, sure.
Okay.
So, this final price on the last page here, 214.144, that's with everything with the warranty.
What's the difference between these two, Steve?
There's one for 217 and one for 214.
The 217 is the actual one.
This is the bid, the 217.
Okay.
This other copy he just submitted because it has the warranty options that you can purchase if you want.
Yep, right here.
Okay.
So, if you want to get extended warranties on anything.
Sure.
That's what it's got.
So, that's why he included that one.
So, if you wanted any warranties you would add it to the 217.
So, the 214 was the original price when he quoted that.
I think it was like...
Oh, January.
Yeah.
I see that data.
Yeah.
So, since then, he said the price went up so he had to re-quote it but it only went up that.
$3,000 or whatever.
Thanks.
Yep.
Okay.
And then he said, he called me yesterday and he said that the thing says 180 days out.
But he says, it'll be done before that, he said.
And what they'll do is, if we go ahead and do it, they'll order the body.
The body will get shipped to Colorado.
And then once they get the body in Colorado, the guys from Billings will come up and get our truck and the others drive it down there.
For basically the price of diesel.
And they'll have our truck for how long?
He was hoping less than three months.
Okay.
So, he was hoping.
So, we would be driving our other truck.
I know.
And that's 14.
Yeah.
Last time it ran, it worked.
Okay.
Okay.
And this truck, Sonya's paid off, right?
Yes.
Okay.
We made our last payment last year.
Yep.
And what were we paying in cheer?
Is it close to $100,000 or?
Yeah.
I mean, what about that truck?
It was $250,000 or $270,000 or something?
Well, I was thinking it was more than that.
But maybe that's right.
It was five years ago.
Yeah.
It was $272,000.
So, $272,000 raised the bell for some reason.
Because now a whole truck and set up out the door brand new is like half a million, right?
It was $400,000 and some thousand is what it costs for a new truck and new body.
Garbage.
What a business.
Garbage.
Garbage.
I move we accept the bid for a new garbage truck.
Body.
Body.
Body.
Body.
All set.
Body.
Body.
Okay.
Nicky and Seth, thank you.
We have motion made and seconded to accept the bid from Coist Brothers for a new body for a garbage
truck and the amount of $217,832.50.
It must be for the candy bar they need on their way back.
So.
Where are you buying 50 cent candy bars?
Yeah.
That's true.
They're a good point.
They're $99 in convenience.
Okay.
We don't have to bid about this as part of that.
Yeah.
They belong to that.
What's that?
Sourcewell.
Sourcewell.
Yeah.
Which is nice.
Yeah.
And we're doing this because these are the people we would be calling anyway for maintenance
or care.
That's 90% of the, I guess, problem with equipment is getting it worked on.
So if you have a good relationship with that company, then you need to keep it.
You know, and they have one of their parts guys.
They have an outside parts guy sale that comes up.
They've shown up about once every three months now since they've got another parts guy in
down there.
I mean, the Scorpion was a good truck, but I mean, after we bought it, the service wasn't
all.
The other reason we were able to get a service guy at the one time is because they were dropping
a new truck off and playing with it.
So I mean, if it's going to work good with the new canisters that are being used and
shipped over to Plentywood, that's picing on the cake.
Yeah.
We gain efficiency.
Okay.
Um, okay, any other comments?
Pump the brakes a minute.
Yeah, Janet's gone.
Is Colin gone?
Yeah, Colin's gone through the end of this week.
And Paul is too.
Paul's back today.
Oh, okay.
Paul's back today.
And then I'll be gone on Friday, so we'll just be Paul on Friday.
Okay.
Hearing no other discussion.
All those in favor?
All right.
All right.
Another, another quarter million bucks spent.
All in a day's work.
Just a hole in the garbage to the dump.
Yeah.
Just.
Oh, B of S pay.
Speaking of spending money.
So we talked about this.
Ben, you took a look at the contract and it's.
There was nothing in there that you saw.
I mean, I could read this and so we just read it.
Nothing that struck me, I guess out of the ordinary for a company like that.
But Black Mountain does a lot of, a lot of work with local governments in general units.
So, yeah, I think it was fine basically for my lights.
Okay.
Well, I know like we talked about last week or last meeting, this, there's people who've
been waiting for something like this because they already have all their other bills,
you set up on auto pay and, you know, it has its own little portal.
You can go in and do whatever.
So, and I think the win for us would be if it can save the administrative time.
So, you know, we can spend that time elsewhere.
So at this time, I'll entertain a motion that we approve this contract with BMS pay to move
forward.
Okay.
So we have a motion made and seconded to approve this service agreement contract with BMS pay.
Any discussion?
Hearing none.
All those in favor?
Aye.
Okay.
All right.
And now our bid for the shop upgrade.
So, again, it looks like.
Okay, so we will accept the bid or entertain a motion that we accept.
The bid from library and construction Inc.
The BBA L and L construction in the total amount of $137,524 and 89 cents.
That includes everything electrical and contract.
Okay.
I'll entertain a motion except the bid.
All right.
Is he planning on doing it this fall still?
So Morgan and I talked with him yesterday and he said he would work on it throughout
the winter, basically this inside stuff.
He said so.
He said it would be an inside job for the wintertime.
He said the biggest hangout might be to get, trying to get Mr. Wier here, you know, and
locked in the building.
Basically go get him and pull his keys out of his car.
But yeah, he said he's working on it.
Is there anything on the landscaping part?
You've got to get the sidewalks.
He's got sidewalk and landscaping while the sprinkler system, which I think he's subbing
out just with conversation with the DJ.
Yeah.
That's what he talked to me about too.
But that's included.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Sidewalk.
Because he was going to do sidewalk from the driveway out here all the way to the court.
Yeah.
I know.
I wish there would have been a square footage of sidewalk, but I mean, 20, wow.
I guess that's pretty quick.
But we're just watering this little bit.
Just a little bit here and a little bit in front of there.
On the south side of the shop?
Yeah.
On the south side of the shop between the sidewalk and the shop.
Okay.
And then this spot out here too.
Okay.
Yep.
That would be nice.
Sonia complained about our uneven sidewalk.
Yeah.
It's a hole out there now.
Yeah.
But then we're just going to fall.
Yeah.
Well, it's in the works.
They can't sue us for negligence.
They can sue us for being slow.
I mean, I guess we could go dump some quick creep in there and call it a day.
I love when we're out on the float.
Yeah.
Well, and then I'll talk to Gordy and I'm just going to be like that over the winter
maybe that's what we're going to do.
Well, that might be something.
You guys could do that.
Yeah.
We could throw the 5L bucket.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's just going to come right out.
Plus it makes it easier for shoveling it on.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's all jagged edges all the time.
Yeah.
Because you could go in and then that shovel gets stuck.
There you go.
Maybe it's just me.
Maybe I'm a fool.
Use the broom on there.
It really throws them rocks out of that hole too.
Oh, yeah, I bet.
Yeah, don't break any windows.
There's no more money left in the budget for fixing this building.
We've got to get some more life out of the front windows before it moves down.
It's out there.
So that's landscaping out front.
It's supposed to be out there.
Yep.
Yep.
Yep.
Okay.
Did we, who motioned and seconded it?
Did we do that yet?
No.
No.
Okay.
So motion made, or excuse me, I'll entertain the motion to approve the bid from LNL Construction.
Not all at once.
I'll make a motion to approve the bid for the building remodel.
I'll second it.
All right.
Thank you, second grade.
I'll make seconded any additional.
And some of this is covered by the grant too.
Yep.
Was that $100,000?
Wow.
Yeah.
Now a little over a hundred, but we're using some of that money on the fire hall.
For the roof, right?
Yeah.
Yep.
Sorry.
Yeah, I pulled out my folder.
We still haven't got contracts on that though, simply because they're super small.
Yeah.
I don't think it's going to be a problem.
It's just one or two people trying to do all these contracts.
Yeah.
So we paid for the fire hall work, but we're waiting to get a contract.
So hopefully.
And once they award the contract, then it jumps in another line to get reimbursed.
Yep.
So, I hope we have a June 30th, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Otherwise, I'm going to take the leash off Sonia's.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Until there's a following an email.
Okay.
They know.
Yeah.
Well, every government's running on the same fiscal year, so it's not just the city of
New York.
Yeah.
I guess they hired, it was just one girl doing all this, facilitating all of this.
And they hired someone else on it to help her.
Now they're going to take her to go help FEMA.
At least.
You mean down south?
Yeah.
To there, too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But don't go down there and volunteer.
Yeah.
Throw her into jail.
Yeah.
Only to be invited back the next day.
Yeah.
Okay.
All those in favor?
All in favor?
Yeah.
Aye.
Aye.
That's our discussion segueed.
To the hard right.
We must be getting close to the end of the meeting.
If you guys remember last meeting, Steve's, we were trying to set up that phone conference
with CBT for this meeting and it's going to be next meeting, the 22nd at 9 30.
I think is what we have on schedule.
And is that going to be like a zoom?
Yeah, they sent a zoom thing so we'll bring probably my computer in and zoom it in.
They want to know if you have questions, they would like copies of your questions by the 15th.
Okay.
So if you know what you're going to ask, if you get it to me, I can email it to them.
Because I just wanted to know who the tenants are and some basically, some of the questions that may be asked.
So yeah, it'll be the 22nd.
I think it's at 9 actually.
9 to 9.
Because it's what they got us scheduled for.
Because what we're going to do is just start the meeting as usual, go through our normal stuff and then at 9, you know, Steve will hopefully start getting logged in.
But then we'll just stop the meeting and then have our conference or whatever with them and then proceed.
So yeah, and don't just, if you do have questions, just get them straight to Steve because I'll, you know, I'll visit with Sonia and Steve just about every morning anyway.
So is this the meeting set up with the local CBP?
No, this is set up with the people that are doing some of the information.
Are there a lease company right then for the government?
I think so, yeah, some sort of government contractor.
The fine leases?
Yeah, I thought it was on behalf of the Department of Homeland Security.
I find it odd they have a contact with the county zoning board because most of that land is in the county.
So you know that they haven't yet?
I'm on that board and we haven't, we got a meeting this week and we haven't heard anything about it.
So I'm going to bring it up at the meeting that we have this week.
Well, maybe, well, I guess you can represent both parties if you're here for our next meeting.
So what if Bob Shine or Darrell Tate had a question?
Are they welcome to ask?
I would assume if they're here at the public meeting.
I mean, it's a public meeting.
Well, I'm not going to invite them.
I mean, I just, I told Darrell that we received this notice.
So has he received any kind of, you know, nothing letter that Steve got?
They said usually they don't get a lot of minutes valleys that ask questions back.
Really?
Yeah, right there in that letter.
Interesting.
Yeah, that's fine.
I've read it.
This is a new one I just got yesterday.
Oh, okay, it's a new one.
I can see how I can forward it.
Yeah, that's fine.
And like I said, I'm, if you're going to build a brand new building, I'm in favor of it.
This is a true thing.
We'd like to know what mixed use means.
Yeah.
Hmm.
And we've got to find a place in town for them to build this.
Oh, my industry has got a lot of hatred over there.
Yeah, we've got to fix the tent anyway.
So yeah, it's all good.
Okay, well, good stuff.
Um, Ben, what are we going to do with Charles Trower?
Um, well, I did not have time to touch base with Mackenzie McCartney.
So everybody got a copy of the e-mail back and forth.
So the, I guess, we have any difference of opinion.
So I honestly, I'm fine with leaving it until they tell me.
Well, I was going to say, uh, yeah, I'll visit with her.
Um, if we need to change something, I'll come back and let you guys know.
I, I was familiar with what she was bringing up in this.
I was not, it wasn't like it wasn't on my radar.
Sure.
Um, I guess my understanding was that, uh, oh gosh, I feel like in Charles was a part-time
employee, and I wasn't sure if he was directly employed by the airport board,
or if he ever, all the employees fell under the county, basically, uh, as far as reporting.
But I'll double-check it.
Uh, and for our purposes, I guess, um, if it needs to be on the next agenda, I'll let, uh,
so in fact, when we can retool, if need be.
Mack, sounds good.
Yeah.
So that's what we said.
I said that they're the ones wanting it, and I'm willing to keep them on there.
Uh, the county wants them.
No, the chairman of that particular board.
Oh, that's good, yeah.
Well, I think, yeah, as long as we can find a way to make work, I don't know.
They can switch them easy enough to an independent contractor, too, if he's actually an employee,
and that would also, I would have the issues.
Which would probably be better for everybody anyway.
Yeah, so if they just switch them, you know, switch them to a contractor, we could do it
that way, too.
So, but, yeah, from a county perspective, uh, often just, yeah.
Okay.
Well, Sonny, we'll just leave that right where it's at on the agenda.
We'll have, we'll, unless of course Ben comes back.
Yeah, if we need to change it, we'll change it.
Like, yeah, I'm not, uh, I guess I'm not terribly upset about it when they're the other end.
I'm just gonna get it figured out, and again, if there's a way to make it work,
and that's what people want to do, then that's what we'll, we'll organize it,
so that's what we have.
Okay.
Rather than just saying, nope, we gotta do something.
Yeah, I like the route of we're gonna try to find a yes, instead of just the initial no.
And if it ended me in a no, I can't say we didn't try.
There.
That's fine.
The last item on the agenda would be the consent items.
I would entertain a motion to approve.
Make a motion to approve consent items.
No second it.
Okay, so motion made seconded.
Is there any discussion, any questions?
Okay, hearing none, all okay?
Aye.
Aye.
Okay.
At this time, I would entertain a motion to adjourn.