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Scobey School Board

October 14th, 2024 Meeting

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00:00members of the community are given the opportunity to make brief comments at two specific times

00:29during the meeting. At the beginning of the meeting on matters that are not included in

00:35the agenda, at this time the board cannot deliberate, debate or take any action on any

00:41matter presented during the public comment. During the meeting on action items there will be a

00:48time that you may speak after being recognized by the board chair. Public matters do not

00:54include any legal pending the latter staff personnel issues or student issues due to

01:01rights of privacy. Please do not attempt to address such issues at this time.

01:08Thank you for participating in this democratic process. We appreciate your presence and are

01:12glad you are here. That means that is there any public comment anything that's not on the agenda?

01:20Is that me?

01:29That's at the beginning public comments on part of that part?

01:35Oh okay it's not me.

01:37Is there anything else anybody want to talk about before we do get it?

01:48We'll get to that, we'll get to the top but we'll go through a few things here before we get to that.

01:56Approval of the minutes from September 9th.

01:59Move to approval of minutes.

02:14All right um one of the my students got spotlight this month was the Shakespeare in the schools.

02:19They came and did uh Shakespeare in the summer night dream which I think are kids really like.

02:25I think the kids like the workshops they put on after a little bit more.

02:30So it's fun to go around watch the kids see some kids that aren't in speech and drama.

02:34Maybe you should be in speech and drama. They have some different talents that are fun to see.

02:39So some updates um the step into health is something that is this week we're working with

02:46Daniels Memorial. I mean they're doing most of the work. I'm just helping the kids bring

02:50kids involved. It's called student training and engagement program.

02:54They are working really hard to in the morning they'll be here at school presenting different

02:59jobs at the hospital um other than just nursing and like a doctor they're talking about billing and

03:06coding um you know like things that Wendy's doll does with HIPAA and confidentiality and then after

03:14lunch they'll go to the hospital and get to see the rehab department the clinic all sorts of different

03:19things. I think it'll be a great opportunity for our kids to see the different opportunities and

03:25health care here in town but in a night of health care system anywhere. They're trying to work on

03:30a grow your own program just as we are always improving kids to become teachers they're doing

03:36the same for health care. Um that's that'll be this week so I'll let you know how it goes after

03:42the degree title one manual procedures. I attended Jack O'Connor's title one class in

03:48Miles City um in September and developed a school title one procedure manual. We had our title one

03:58last year when we realized because of all the federal funds we there's a lot of things that we

04:03weren't doing so this Jack Jack ran the federal funds for OPI for seven years and then got out

04:14when OPI kind of became a mess and became an old consultant. So we developed the procedure manual

04:21with his help um just so that if for some reason I don't have this job anymore or Mr. Hardy's on

04:27around or Mr. Ferguson's on around someone could come in and say these are the things that need to be

04:31done for federal funds for title one. Also kind of refine how we refer students to title one um

04:38all of our staff had to fill out four referral forms they're doing it already they have the data

04:45it's just a way for us to communicate with our parents that was one concern or idea last year

04:51at the title one meeting was a parent said well I want to know what might be this you know more

04:58specifically what they're struggling with so this can send that home to the parents

05:02so they can see like oh my child is struggling with problem solving in math and then if they have

05:07questions they can talk to them for a minute um Indian education for all this is another

05:14accreditation thing also the we have to prove that we're doing it for the monies that we're

05:19getting from the state so all teachers have to teach at least one lesson per quarter for the

05:23Indian education for all um so that's just an update. Beginning of the year benchmarks all of

05:33our kids took the star test which is our district wide assessment I'm not going to play go through

05:40every single one but this is our remember beginning of the year uh your green level green and blue or

05:47fifty percent or your above your benchmark so ideally you got fifty percent or more of your

05:51students which these graphs I mean our kids are actually are doing awesome it was really like I sat

05:57and dug into it this morning and I was very impressed in reading and math how our kids are

06:02doing and how our which shows how our teachers are doing because they're teaching the kids

06:08up on top of that like in parentheses the number that's how many kids are in that grouping I did

06:14one two three four six seven eight and then nine through eleven we don't have our 12th graders do

06:19it just because they're going to sound other things you know you're getting right for college

06:24showing that kind of stuff and kindergarten's not on there because we don't really require them to

06:28take it until the winter then charged. So if you ever look through that and you have questions um

06:41have my email here at your music list so we'll do that we do this benchmark at least three times

06:47a year our teachers often do it in between there too for some progress monitoring to see how

06:51the kids are improving or if we have a kid that's all of a sudden balmy and you know like what can

06:57we do to help them and bring in any type one maybe there's more to it but I'll use this data.

07:05And then upcoming our state testing window the new math testing that started this week

07:10none of us were testing it which is okay we have six weeks to do it to do five math test

07:16splits are you going to read this first one and then three reading test splits in grade three

07:23through eight and it's all new some of that will be interesting to see how it goes with

07:28technology and just how the kids do they're supposed to be shorter and then red ribbon week is the

07:34end of october and then for the future conferences are here on november first

07:48all right be sure it's sweet so light of sleep it says things coming up um i think there's a

07:53couple things that you just need to be aware of um as more information comes i will share it with you

07:59and possibly maybe to that doctor community i think that hot topic for public education this

08:04year is going to be vouchers a voucher system um i think what's really scary is that it took

08:11arizona multiple years to get that voucher system in place montan is like going from zero to the

08:17hundred immediately and what's nervous is what makes public education nervous about it is one

08:24they don't play about the same rules and two um they can really urge your funding in your school

08:33so say for example i've got three kids right this is what's going on in arizona i take my three kids

08:39out of scoby um public education my wife's a teacher i have her home school my kids i get to

08:45collect a and b for those kids and in arizona it's long there's not much um reporting basically i can

08:53say well i'm buying legos for my kids you know for part of this assignment but maybe i buy legos

09:01that are worth a lot of money and then i sell them on ebay and i put that money in my pocket

09:06that stuff's going on um so i think when we talk to the superintendent group um and who have a cape

09:13for us they're against vouchers if they don't they have to play by the same rules and prove that hey

09:21they're taking the mass test they're being proficient um they're doing everything they need

09:26they actually have their curriculum um getting held by the same standard then i guess if you want to

09:32vote it in what all means do but if it's a wide open free fraud i think that's a dangerous spicy

09:39situation um also just to let you know i mean we've seen inflation go through the rough um

09:48it's sad but i don't see a lot according to our people sam and everyone got a kid for us again

09:53we don't see a lot of money coming to us this legislative session um to help with

09:59oh let's be honest there hasn't been any help really for um building since world war two to renovate

10:06these buildings um our teacher salaries were ridiculously low when you look at this with

10:13an american general the state is lacking horribly in that department and the reason why they think

10:19there will probably be no money there might be a little inflation that we'll get is because

10:24their centennial report they have to do tenure report or decade report whatever will be the next

10:30time so they're probably going to kick down their can down road and say oh we want to see that

10:34record to fully do anything financially so those are kind of the two big things i've taken away

10:40count date was october 7th that's completed um everything's been reported to lpi um finish that

10:46today to see you guys know quick rundown elementary is at 149 g you're at 45 by school 81 that's a

10:53total enrollment of 275 i mean that's down we'll be back down to three-year average we've got a

10:59couple years where they got lucky to have to plan that one year we'll be back to three-year

11:04average because we're almost at 300 so um with that i also had to fill out our class

11:14side of roster size for any day um and i remember we talked about this a couple years ago uh

11:23basically our football basketball images say wants to know our enrollment all the way down to

11:30sixth grade participation number um for that class b class e-talk and in 26 27 we will be at 100 kids

11:40in here and opine co-op will push us over that i wanted to now you have to hold it for two consecutive

11:49years they're important to go that far but we're going to be in that talk soon and one of their

11:54biggest things mhsa looks at is how successful you are or pretty dang successful so i mean if we

12:01choose to at the time we could appeal it just know that by how successful our programs are

12:06it'd be a tough appeal to me so um but we never you know we've got kids move out move in we'll deal

12:13with that when the time comes just sit you're aware uh field brothers um i still haven't received a

12:18quote from them but i talked to them last month they did they were working on the fire hall they

12:23came over and tried to patch some of our as you noticed our commons leaps when it rains or the

12:28snow melts they tried to patch some of those um if they didn't get it all i got to call them back

12:34um there it's still that one right by the commons doors leaking um so hopefully i don't know if

12:40that comeback will try hopefully they will try to get that fixed and in here is actually started

12:45looking to um so uh row situations are going to be something we're going to have to really think

12:53about um with new rapport and get some of these repaired on the good news they think our our

13:00roof over our gym is pretty solid you know our 25 year life expectancy is up but they thought is we

13:07could at least get another five years out of that i guess the discussion is do we want to tackle

13:13maybe some other things and leave that or push the can down the road but not only worry is when

13:18you kind of start getting off schedule things can add up and all of a sudden you have even a bigger

13:24so um that's where we are there johnson controls uh there are boiler people

13:31that look over our boiler they actually team um kind of gave daryl an in-person train

13:38walk them through the computer program help turn our boilers on just to make sure since this is

13:44his first time doing this and scott unfortunately isn't hearing more um and uh they'll be back to

13:51extend those pipes so they don't freeze so that was nice and then become i thought i'll do that

13:58science testing this is just something uh we already looked at math and el a i told you guys

14:05we've never had science done before um and this company that we work with was like would you like

14:13it i said absolutely i'd love to see our science scores um they're just really good we're 63 percent

14:20of our students were proficient in 2024 um we were out 14 percent um from 23 to 56 in 2024

14:32so it's really good our stores are awesome if you want to see it i can pass around to show you

14:40i don't know did you look at that did you like it yeah i think it shows some good things that i've

14:44never seen anything on the science side since i've been here yeah it's been a few years again but

14:50yeah so that's that and then to piggyback my last thing off this math testing

14:57i know there's people excited about it i'm kind of half glass full i'm a little nervous about it

15:04there's no baseline i felt really comfortable with the s back um i like that we were collecting

15:10data before we're going and now that's all out the window because it's a new test and i would say

15:15there's concern that probably the state of montan is not going to test well it could be wrong but

15:21i know there's worry that our test scores might not look as good with a new test because there's

15:26no baseline we don't we don't know um so there's just some worry that's all i have any questions for

15:34you

15:38it's great moving on to the planes

15:45we'll improve the planes from september 4 to october 10 from the amount of 149

15:49thousand eight hundred twenty one dollars and 78 cents as presented a second

15:55about

15:59the emotion the second discussion

16:13full discussion all in favor hi hi

16:25so

16:30i move to approve the activity account

16:36check it

16:39the motion and the second on the activity accounts

16:45discussion

16:48all in favor

16:49hi hi

16:57now on to the action

17:02action a foreign policy updates for title one

17:07move to dot board policy 3125 at homeless education assistance dispute resolution format

17:19the second

17:23the motion and the second

17:27no this is just from an audit we didn't have that we have

17:31just just to encourage us to ask what the foreign policy is

17:37it's

17:39your time right

17:45to

17:49be miscarried this is the facility Mr. Hardy has been approached by a member of the public regarding

17:55access to the walking chapter in school hours currently the public has access to the facility as

18:01falls during this day when we can't hear you

18:07when you talk to us seriously we can't hear you guys okay

18:15Mr. Hardy has been approached by a member of the public regarding access to the walking track

18:20during school hours currently the public has access to the facility as falls

18:26during the school year the facility hours are

18:295 a.m. to 8 a.m. and 4 p.m. to 9 p.m. Monday through Thursday

18:3711 a.m. to 1 p.m. Monday through Thursday with access to the walking track we have to stop at the

18:43office and sign and then 5 a.m. to 9 p.m. Friday through Sunday unless school is scheduled for Friday

18:53summer hours are 5 a.m. to 9 p.m.

18:57members of the community feel that the building should be accessible at all hours

19:03there's been a long-standing thought that the community paid for the facility

19:07then they should have access to it at any time during COVID the facility was completely

19:14shut down and the following year was opened on a limited basis before school and after school hours

19:22in 2022 community members asked to have the hours during the lunchtime to come and walk

19:28at the august 21st 2022 meeting was approved to open the school from 11 to 1 daily

19:36with the community members having to check in on this

19:41so that's a summary of what this is about

19:47I'll open it to discussion

19:49thank you very much I'm going to be the spokesman for this group I have a

19:57something to show

19:58all

20:13I have to with your

20:15and if I would like to give you some history about the school to schools

20:21this is the shovel that was used for the first day when we first

20:29addition to the school and I'd like to give you the name on this show

20:34Carol Brindon John Brindon Phyllis Call Cliff Haigbilt Dale Shabbat

20:42Mark Shield Chet Solberg Linda Hardin Pam Furley Matt Floyd Dustin Hill Lanny Marlene

20:52Donnie Kingfield Banjo Gerard Lynn Christensen and about three names that have faded with time

21:03but this is kind of a physical emblem of life for school to schools and for our community

21:14this all started about 35 years ago after two bond elections had failed

21:22we had we had a meeting in uh I remember in the basement of Neyvon Fellowship Neyvon crew

21:30as what is the biggest need for school and there was about 30 names that were 30 things

21:36that were listed and the top one that came out was we need a new gym we've got this box of the

21:41gym we need to do gym well how are we going to pay for it we've two bond elections have failed

21:48what are we going to do and out of that meeting came the SAFI organization

21:56it was a startup of dreamers people like me have no I'm not from Scovie I did not graduate

22:05from Scovie High School a lot of people on this list have no bonds to Scovie but a lot too

22:13so it was just love for for our students and for our community to use this facility

22:19so important SAFI Don Hayden I actually talked to his wife Laura she was very supportive of what

22:26I'm talking about today Don Hayden was instrumental and give us our 501c3 so we could raise many in

22:34our goal was to raise the entire 3.7 million dollars to build this school well obviously

22:41we didn't quite make that but we made a million and a half and I know there's a lot of talk about

22:47well this is a school is funded by the taxpayers the word by the taxpayer taxpayers but one half

22:53this building that you see here was paid for by private donations and hundreds and hundreds of

23:02hours of donated help people laying the floors putting in the bleachers working on this music

23:11paying for that sound system over there the air sound room is amazing it's incredible the

23:16amount of time that we've been put into this school for a love of this community and I know

23:22you guys have that love too or you wouldn't be sitting here um so that's how it all started

23:31um so after we raised that million and a half but we knew that the time was coming

23:37wait do you want to hold the show sure the time had come where we needed to turn it out to the

23:44school and I have this cool we have a lot of coverage from the paper here's this cool ad I

23:51would have to show you but this first look the first building useful like look at the gym was like

23:57having candy corner so we went through I don't know how many different plans about how this

24:02school would be fun to be made uh Donna Hagen paid the architect personally to get this thing

24:10or get this diagram of how the school is going to be and I went through many more changes after

24:16that but there there's incongruable number of people and put tons of money in having this

24:22amazing facility that we have and everyone that I've talked to and many people I've talked to

24:28say that this facility would not be here today if we did not have in the bond election with this

24:37room here that the gym which was not called a gym it was called the activity center

24:43would be or I forgot to mention that we got something on this shuttle I want to show you

24:48would not be here if we had not said the community can use this facility

24:54for for walking and for using the commons area and actually the shuttle I was going to tell you

25:03the date on this um it's a little faded right at groundbreaking ceremony was June 15th 1998

25:13at 7 p.m. and these are the people that was here and there's a picture of that too simple

25:17but I don't know where it is so I've talked to a lot of people that are not here today

25:27that I visited there for various reasons that we would really like to keep this open

25:34Pastor Kelly had a wonderful thing to say he said you know what there was a great blending

25:39of generations you would have and I couldn't experience that myself when I was walking

25:44she would be like the second grade second grade class would be coming up and doing their laps

25:49before they went to PE and I thought what a great learning experience for them that they're seeing

25:55older people like me trying to stay in shape with experience for them hey they're trying to stay in

26:02shape but they're also learning matters they're learning that when they're running by somebody

26:07that they shouldn't be running into them you know and so the blending generation and so

26:13for glenn christensen whose name is on the shovel who taught here we said that would not have been

26:22there if we had not said the walking track was open for the public she said it would have not

26:27passed along the lecture don so he said hey old people need a place to walk here in the winter

26:37and they can't get up at five or eight in the morning they don't get up that early I said

26:42yeah I know and so there's so many people there's so supportive of this then you

26:52board members I know when you got this letter from Dave's over he's like why am I getting a letter

26:56from Dave's over he's not even he doesn't even live here I don't know if you know that Dave's over

27:03gave 250 million dollars or not a million he gave a quarter of a billion dollars to this project

27:10that he unchecked he unchecked not to mention you have the solvers scholarship that's given every

27:17year he has a vested interest in this school and I want to reread the letter that he said

27:23number one he the first one he gave to Tim he gave a little family history about he knows

27:27you're a family I told him back to Carol I called Dave back he wasn't aware that we were

27:34letting people into the school at the selected hours he thought we were closing it completely

27:38I know I got that letter too but he also said something else about phase two and phase three

27:45and all of that stuff but he said one salient point of the campaign to raise money was at the

27:51walking running track would be included in the plans and would be offered to the public

27:55and the reason I'm here is because you're super generous I said to him well why is it safe to run

28:02at or leave at 11 and it's not safe to go at night and he said well I want to shut it down

28:08and let it also so that's why I'm here because we want this place open during the day so people

28:15could use it and he ended he ended he ends up by saying uh I hope the school board takes my letters

28:22seriously and inspects the superintendent to open the track to the public even if he thinks it

28:27shouldn't be he works for you I think it's important that we that you respect that you're here to

28:34represent us on the board and listen to what we have to say and I first heard nothing but safety

28:44that was for the safety of the students well I think you've done an amazing job of responding to

28:51the safety of the community and you know locking down the school is good but we have our fingerprints

29:00and our code I would still like to go in that south door of the school and not disturb the kids

29:06hate to walk by the classrooms and then kids turning their heads as you're walking by

29:11I rather know we didn't have to do that I'd rather just show up at that door and then see why it is

29:16not safe but now I'm coming up to this idea that this area is used for discipline and I would like

29:24you to respond to this board member so as you explain to me why how this is used for discipline

29:30I understand it's used for students that maybe have cognitive issues that need a place to be

29:35compressed away from their peers so they take them out there to fall in their blocks and laps

29:43while they can calm down yeah so why not can we not use the old gym

29:47uh I guess it was the walking track

29:54oh why but the walking track I would like to present to you that the walking track was also

30:01we wanted for the kids but we want it for their community and the classrooms for the schools have

30:08been used or the kids have been used to have these things as you're mentioning which are very very

30:14important I see no reason why that cannot be in the old gym where when they used to do that the

30:19old gym anyone used to run laps in the old gym my kids ran gym they my kids did not get to enjoy

30:27this new facility um Carol yes we have other people we'll talk to and then we'll come back to it

30:35I'll answer that one because the little gym gets used all the time too the little gym is being used

30:42for its things and so we need other areas to take our kids to to walk them and to calm them down

30:51and to do things that we need to do do the exercises that we need to do and you know I think that's

30:56totally awesome and why not why couldn't I not be walking there at the same time it's uh yeah I mean

31:05it's none of your business what kid I have walking

31:08but I wouldn't have to know why people walk in

31:11but Carol if you were not just just bring my kids up there have a bit and then you see it

31:18able to act properly and you say content so the boy is up there so I want to fit you know

31:23what no if it happens I'm not saying you would be the person but it happens and it's just it's

31:27it's not the same little thing I want to present to you that if we had run this fun election say

31:34we're not chugging it down if we were well but that's what mr um no we're not shutting the gym

31:42down or the lock and trap down and that's what I feel like you miss a lot of people because

31:48that's why I had you fall great to start with because I didn't know the limit the doubt

31:53and that's why I asked you to fall great I didn't know the limit it was but I'm just

31:57I didn't go by mr party I said why is it safe to walk at all while older there's a safety thing

32:04why is it safe to walk at all but then it's not safe to walk at night and he says I want to shut

32:09the whole thing down you're right you should be so that's why I am here we understand I just want

32:16to say to you guys I know you put your names on the line to be here on the lord and listen to people

32:21like me and uh if somebody else wants to say something in addition but I just want to express

32:27who are that we're here because we're here because the students but we're also here and I hope that

32:34you would not take action on this tonight I hope you would think about this a little bit more and

32:41maybe we can work out some other proper license thank you very much thanks

32:51does anybody else want to say anything I got hold on very I would just like to appreciate

32:58that you're interested in it I am thankful that 35 years ago that you guys raised enough money to

33:05build up students right from around here and this is being done a little bit of what you said

33:12at what point has that 1.5 million dollars been paid back right 35 years is a long time and we're

33:18not sure we don't want the building shut down we think it's great for one of the only schools in

33:23the state of Montana who opens any hours of the day as far as a teacher standpoint I use the walking

33:29track because it's the lighting up there is calmer than in the small gym and some sensory kids need

33:34that versus like the bright LED lights that come from small gym and it's being used and my other

33:41point is like safety is a concern for us like when we got that text message last year about

33:46the shooting threat that we came to our school every teachers we some of us cried our stomachs

33:52throughout it's a never ending thing for us and our top priority is our students right if it was

33:59up to me I would have it closed all day long right and I think Mr. Hardy was maybe speaking on that

34:04right because a lot of us teachers who use it for our students which is what this building is for

34:12aren't I don't like that I send them up there knowing that there's maybe another adult up there

34:17or if they use the bathroom while they're running laps it's just an issue that could arrive in our

34:24new age right so protecting my students is my number one goal I know if there was a school

34:32shooting in this building you would all expect me to go in front of my students and I absolutely

34:35would right that's part of I mean this is part of my job right you say it may not ever happen here

34:43but every school shooting that's happened every town that it's happened in has said that

34:48so just keep that in mind when you're trying to get our school open all hours of the day

34:54you know uh there's only one of you on the board that was here when we raised that money

35:14all of you on the board are recipients of what we did your kids and you got to use it

35:25not me job no but I there's your kids now Jim big time and so is anybody else so I'll ask anybody

35:34here you go to church you go to other public meetings how many guard dogs are there in the

35:39front of the church press button to keep it open and I'll tell you what if you want to close the

35:45school them we'll quit sports no more basketball no more soccer because I'll tell you what when

35:52you've got a thousand people in there at a basketball game and you don't know the other side

35:57on the other side of the story you're going to tell me that there is a some slinky guy or gal

36:03that couldn't get in there and hide and do some damage to the school they can't they can't I go to

36:12church most of the times when I'm here at school there's no doors locked I'm concerned about that

36:20I know what's happening around here I'm 83 years old I've raised more damn money for this community

36:29and kcdm and what have you then you'll never know and a lot of us have as well

36:36class 8 fell Lanny Marlon II I could name name on name on name on name this facility was raised

36:44for the community and you look at all what the community has raised because of private

36:51enterprise hospital kcdm the school the fire department the ambulance department we have

37:00raised about 18 different outfits that raised three to four million dollars for this community

37:07and if you forget your community you're going to lose and I'll tell you what the only way this

37:15community is going to keep going it's got to keep going and if you want to be afraid all your life

37:24you don't think I don't care about kids I care about kids as much as I care about me at 83 years old

37:31I don't want anybody here but I'll tell you what you saw what happened on two assassinations on

37:41Trump if somebody wants to try to do something they'll do it I was there in in when John Kennedy

37:51in in Colorado I saw him getting shot on tv you think I want to see that but some people

38:00can do things if they really are diabolical enough to do it

38:07and how much protection are we supposed to have all our life if we're going to live in

38:12a cocoon all our life you just as well die and this community just as well die I just want to

38:19tell you I've been a promoter for this community all my life and now we're trying to build a new

38:24hospital I guarantee one thing you start closing down this school like you're trying to do

38:33there's going to be some big donors that are not going to be for that hospital

38:37or for other things in this community and that's a shame because I want to leave this community

38:45stronger and better than when I got here and if that isn't your duty to do that

38:52and if you're so scared as teachers that you don't dare do that you shouldn't teach

38:58you shouldn't preach you shouldn't be the mayor you shouldn't be in the legislature thank you John

39:05well I'm going to tell you what Tim this is important I know it is important and I have a

39:10lot to say what you said too so if you go on finish and then you'll be fine so I tell you what

39:17just remember what you're doing is for the community that's not for special interests

39:24there's no special interest here John from we're doing what we think is we don't I don't know what

39:30we're doing I'm speaking for myself what's best for the kids what's the day and age has changed

39:36I mean liability we're trying to mitigate liability let me talk about liability very well I've been

39:42on the KC jam bar longer than anybody else with cliff eggs belt and a few others

39:49Terry is our insurance Terry he never talks about insurance liability when people walk into

39:55the store that used to be my dad's store it's not the same as the good old days John I agree

40:02but Terry doesn't talk about that when people come into the KC jam store either with people I

40:07asked him and asked well Terry can you speak on this what is our liability what is what is the

40:12best interest of the insurance company to cover us if John that was to happen

40:19the policies are going to cover bodily injury or property damage that occurs

40:24it'll be open during the school hours regardless and you know what it comes down to is

40:29is what you know is best in you know in the bottom line you end up in a lawsuit

40:38the jurors sitting there they're going to say prudent person rule what do the majority of

40:44the other schools do how do they handle it type thing you know if you're doing it differently

40:50then it does make a difference what it is if it's you're running your cows or right now we're talking

40:55about schools your school runs differently than most of the others you know then there's going to be

41:02a greater chance that liability gets pointed to you and that you know are going to lose if you know

41:1190% of the other schools here's how they handle it you're one of those that

41:16outlier you know you have a bigger chance of you know getting a suit awarded against you if

41:24you're doing something that you know the majority of the others are not doing and so it just all

41:30depends on you know and the bottom line like I say Logan would speak of that he knows the legal

41:38part of it but that's you know and the insurance going to cover it regardless of you know which way

41:45that it is and so deep enough well I tell you what just remember the ramifications so what you do

41:56tonight are going to be ramifications for scoby and danious county we're doing we're not I feel

42:08like you're talking to us like we're we're working for some outside of organization here and we're

42:13doing what we think is best for the kids and the safety if something happened in two weeks from now

42:19and we could have prevented it I we cannot we cannot get rid of all the risks I anybody can hide in

42:25there at any time yeah we're just trying to mitigate that risk and we had multiple hours available

42:32we were never once talked about shoveling the walking track down but that's what I was told

42:38it's not true not true well you did tell me that I should have here I'll speak now here's

42:45not a conversation where caro wanted to know if I could come she could come and meet in my opinion

42:50she didn't want to talk to me she wanted to be on the board agenda I stress the I stress that

42:57the hours that have already been stated that are open and unfortunately today in the world we live in

43:0311 to 2 doesn't exist so now it's a public meeting being recorded and I don't know who's

43:09going to be watching this and there are people watching and the reality is we're being negligent

43:15by being open from 11 to 1 so if this conversation would have never happened 11 to 1 would have

43:21never came up because people would have known and now it's brought to our attention and not

43:25message it so we have a letter this board has received from our school attorney Jeff Walden

43:31explaining the negligence and what can happen in liability and insurance premiums going up because

43:37of it not only because of our kid's safety on the walking track but also your safety if one

43:41of our kid runs into you and you break the leg or arm I mean you can but that's that's that's

43:48this is a legal opinion not my opinion the other thing that's really interesting is I feel like

43:54I was hired by this board and part of my duty is to make sure my staff is safe the kids are safe

44:02and I try to keep this out of the liability getting sued taxpayer dollar money the reality is

44:10we are taking that risk on far more than we should be by having those but from 11 to 1

44:15um so

44:20I'm with Mrs. Matternack and everyone I am so grateful that this money was raised

44:26and I'm so great for this facility and I have no meaning shutting it down I'd actually propose

44:31to extend the hours before and after school to make up from that 11 to 1 the other problem is

44:42and I know there's teachers in this room there's no other teacher that would get evaluated

44:47by the public during their class and our PE teacher is

44:54that that is a problem that is not right that is not fair for Mr. Knight or who are an extra

44:59PE teacher can be um so that's also an issue I have um I found this really interesting I

45:09love the history I was able to pull up I mean I commend you these documents um the articles

45:17the original plans with the baseball field in the back and three basketball courts and two tennis

45:21courts the big gym having more bathrooms and locked rooms and it did I mean oh that for that

45:30all could have been done in a while that would have been state of the art but I also think it's

45:35really interesting in October 1992 at the school board committee meeting the number one goal

45:43nowhere in these documents it says it should be open during a school day the number one goal

45:48says the main goal of SAPI is for improving the conditions of scoby schools so that our

45:54rural education will continue and that our students will be competitive and I think that's

46:00so wonderful because it ties in what we're talking about with kids having a bad day and being able

46:04to use the walking track you met your goal I think that's lovely that's exactly what this says

46:14I think that's great that was never discussed in this afternoon right there that was scoby

46:21school board on October 19th 1992 those in presence chairman Bill is called trustee Ed

46:27Hinton playing Marlon he's guaranteed you read it right there main goal

46:35which is great but believe me I admire you teachers I admire what you're doing with the kids

46:43but it just seems to be that there must be other places in the school

46:49so what happens in the in the small gym they have any classes in the small gym

46:58we try to protect the big door so there's a smaller five because when I was first

47:06walking in this school before COVID and everything got shut down all the PE classes were in the big

47:13gym and so there was no issue with that at all and I remember talking to Bucky Henderson

47:20once when he heard that they were shutting the school down he said I like the people walking

47:25around when when I was having PE classes I never heard a PE teacher that complained about people

47:32walking during the school and and there was not the little gym was sitting empty I don't understand

47:39why sometimes we have high school PE and elementary PE going on at the same time too

47:45so it just seems like there's other places that make them be disappointed you know what I went

47:48here in 1959 they graduated we had places or two and a half times as many people in school

47:56using the little gym and now we got the little gym and the big gym and what have you and we can't

48:02use anything yes you can use I feel like there's been a big misunderstanding here we are not it's

48:08not our intention to close the gym there for the walking track it is we may discuss the

48:14eliminating the 11 to 1 o'clock hour I called the school today I talked to John I said how many

48:20people walked today zero I know I have to sign in between 11 and 1 you have to sign in and she

48:27told me today there was nobody there she said which is fairly unusual but at the high end there's maybe

48:32six so those six people would be out from 11 to 1 and we where we are discussing expend going

48:42earlier hours and later hours we're still talking about 80 hours a week that that walking track is

48:48open that's a heck of a lot more than the grocery store the pharmacy the hospital any other place

48:55so I'll do respects inconvenience be damned this place is about the school

49:01facilities the kids and the staff in my opinion well mr. Tuttle is one of the persons I just

49:07talked to yesterday as a matter of fact I said hey I used to see you at the track all the time

49:12yeah he said but I can't handle those hours I can't I can't do it between 11 to 1 and then

49:17they shut down I've talked to more people there used to be 34 people a day 30 to 40 people a day

49:23on that track that are not walking there anymore because of the shut down hours and I'm talking

49:29about the middle of the winter now right now it probably doesn't make a bit of a difference

49:33everybody's walking out we're gonna be outside but the middle of the winter I think of the

49:38older people like me to keep their keep moving and keep doing things it would be so nice if

49:45there was extended hours at least during the winter months so people can be there and walk

49:52Terrell I actually work in the office during lunch hour and historically there is maybe two

49:58people that sign in every day right that's it I know that's it but that that's I think anybody

50:05can come and only two are actually signing in and I know this because those hours are not

50:11people like to be home at lunch time those people also have jobs and that's their lunch hour and

50:16they're in town they're not country people like me that maybe is a nine o'clock at

50:21appointment in town and I'm not going to sit around till 11 to walk John I share your sentiment

50:27I don't like the idea that the school has to turn into a maximum security facility

50:34because of what's going on elsewhere in the world I think Mr. Hardy is doing an excellent job

50:41as superintendent in and training his focus on school liability and being a good steward

50:49of our facility and taking care of the teachers and staff and having an eye towards

50:57what a prudent person would do like like Barry mentioned I think Mr. Hardy talked to

51:03a dozen surrounding schools about and nobody had those hours open during the day that's

51:08not convincing to me that we shouldn't do it I talked to a few people who shared this sentiment

51:15that a few people my age have graduated from here that they like seeing their grandparents

51:22coming in and walking and other community members during the day I I hope that we maybe

51:31don't take any action on this tonight and that we have an opportunity to do a little more brainstorming

51:37on it keeping those 11 to one hours and then before and after I don't I'm not convinced of

51:43what the right thing to do is yet knowing how slimy attorneys can be and also knowing

51:53how much it has meant to the community I know one of the big critiques the school board gets

51:58is that decisions are made without hearing the community and I hope that some of those

52:02critiques can be dispelled after something like this because I think we've given a great opportunity

52:07for the community to be heard and likewise having heard from the community I hope maybe

52:13we take a breath before we make a decision I'd really appreciate that if you would think about

52:19that a little bit more and I I always have been a talker you know I guess I I feel like it's like

52:27there's there are people that are attacking us thinking we're not doing our job we're here to

52:33listen and we're trying to do the best it's like I'm not sure that everybody thinks that

52:39they think that we're just doing something for our own good will well I didn't get on the school

52:44board for that I didn't teach school for 25 years for that I did it for a page I've paycheck yes but

52:50that's not what I did that's why I talk and why I've been involved in community every

52:56every community organization that I've been in and there's a bunch of them and and

53:03but I looked at the schedule is 100 I mean the school is open 88 hours a week

53:11that people can walk I wish it was all the time 24-7 but sometimes that can't happen

53:18and I saw I was teaching school and when all these schools started started I I mean

53:25when we had the deal last spring we came in at a special school board meeting

53:29and it took me back to Columbine on April 20th all those years ago when I had a classroom full

53:36of kids and it was 700 miles away and it was that but I when I came in the building I looked around

53:45look out there's somebody out here that's not me I'm you know I'm not paranoid person I just don't

53:51I think everybody just needs to realize that we're we're we're trying to do the best for everybody

53:59and sometimes that doesn't make everybody happy and you know I mean I think every I think

54:06they were all trying to be on the same page but to to get the criticism that maybe we're

54:13not I get a little offended sometimes yeah but the way I can walk here and in a front door

54:19right today and I can't do it during school hours and you got a game playing over here

54:26what kind of protections you have here right now don't give me that bullshit

54:30no I'm not entirely full of students right now I'm I don't I don't want to argue with John

54:35that's what you want and I'm not going to do it

54:41is there any more discussion about this no I think it's all over I just want to thank you

54:46for listening and I hope you we appreciate you putting your names on the line to be on this

54:53we appreciate what the teachers concerns are we all have concerns I just I guess my main thing

54:59when I came tonight is that I just never dreamed that our walking track would be open as a disciplinary

55:07thing for it is if there's other reasons but Carol it's not used as a disciplinary I'm like

55:14the chief disciplinary officer here it is not being used for discipline oh please do not spread

55:20that okay it's not well but that's kind of what I've been gathering well your information is well

55:25I'll have to visit with you sometimes yes okay just mr. Harding just said to me on our visit he said

55:33well what would you think if if your student was in your kid was in trouble and and a community

55:40person walked by and that was my first hint that I thought there must be something going on there

55:47and I've talked to one person that walks here regularly that said that you were disciplining

55:52a student I've never disciplined in front of public people we de-escalate well anyway

56:00I just want to say thank you thank you I appreciate you listening and I hope you'll take some of our

56:06sentiments to heart and ignore some of the other things that maybe you said but we all love this

56:14area we I know you love your you love kids and you wouldn't be here you love kids because you

56:19wouldn't or you wouldn't be here we also were there when it started to and we love kids or it

56:25wouldn't be here yeah I mean we helped do it too so yeah so and I know you did a lot too but so

56:33well thank you thank you thank you very much

56:45so we're still here is there any more discussion yeah I'll all this I got one more thing I'd like

56:53to be on record and it doesn't mean personal don't take it personal but I recommend that this

57:00building is closed during the day I would also go as far as Jeff Weldon for the negligence

57:08and say that it probably should be closed more when our kids are at basketball practice

57:13and practice after school they shouldn't be here and the reason why I'm recommending that in public

57:19comment and because when something bad happens I don't want the government to follow my head

57:23I appreciate I appreciate exactly how you handled it Mr. Hardy

57:35I don't think there's anything that could have been been done better about it I think there might be

57:42room for some maybe solutions that haven't been thought of

57:47uh I do a little maybe just a little something more like this by individual

57:59any more discussion

58:05zero motion

58:06I'm not thrilled about going to a left PM

58:17filling and I'll waste that in his email he's not here that was maybe a little late

58:23so the thought with that would be and that's just records that's why if you make the motion

58:28you gotta make it on your own the thought is that is for adults so in our computer system with

58:34our fingerprints we have kids and adults so kids would be out at 9 30 the adults could stay till 11

58:42yeah I worry about unsupervised non-adult access in general more than anything

58:52my head went to is it possible to have something for retirees to access the building like coming

58:58in and checking in in the office during the day what does that look like with scheduling because

59:03I don't go into this safety thing so much as I use it with the PE teacher what other teacher

59:11has drop-ins from the community during the class I'm more concerned about that

59:19I don't like that and if there's any means of navigating that while still allowing access for

59:25the community because even more than what showed up here tonight I've been in

59:31I feel like the community has been misled too I've been jumped by your closing the track

59:37which is not in fact at all now happening and that's every complaint I've had has been

59:41that because there's been this but I've had people say I'm glad you're thinking about closing

59:49I mean it's not like a hundred percent of everybody thinks we should be always wanting more

59:53something I've had people come to me at least what's just the ground parent of parents say

60:01I don't think it should be over during the day I mean so that's not it's not every

60:07those people aren't here but that doesn't mean there don't exist thank you Duane

60:12we have a lot here but do we have a motion on this or

60:15the motion

60:25I need actually how I'm going to make a motion

60:28that the facility hours be changed from 4 a.m. until 7 30 a.m. and 4 30 p.m. to 9 p.m.

60:39not during the day of and not during the day that's my motion

60:46we have a motion we have a second

60:51I think if I think if we combine I went to open though I think and that's now that

61:16we can come my other type of solution maybe there's

61:21a working group that can come and at least talk about it and we can bring it back at a later date

61:26and I guess I should have a second of the motion and then we could have

61:31my probably shouldn't now I think motion does yes and we can put this on the agenda for next time

61:39and maybe buildings and grounds can have a

61:56I think that might have we should also change this policy then because really our school board

62:03policy gives me the authority

62:09with that in mind I would otherwise defer to you Mr. Hardy I mean that's why we

62:15why we hire you and trust you with the day to day that was my other primary concern and all

62:20this is I don't want to be I don't want any perception that that we're undermining your

62:24decision oh no I told me I'm not taking it that way let's not change any policy right now

62:35I'll ask for a second one more time

62:41it's dead so we're gonna move on and we'll be with that

62:55the next time there's a sleep in put up a sign

62:59right big morning I went there and I walked around and I looked down there and there

63:08so I walked four miles in the dark I don't think they even knew I was there

63:12that's probably my problem they probably just went to bed before he got there I was gonna say

63:17that's probably why so sound asleep thanks Barry yeah can you guys leave that for open

63:23yeah it was so noisy sorry yep yeah

63:37all right I'm just gonna give you a little rundown I was uh we got some girls working in the class

63:44we go help there's just a lot of kids there so Mr. Beer and I go up there

63:48to kind of monitor all I was talking with Claire let fall

63:54all um a Kennedy Cromwell um you guys would love the conversation they had two things on her

64:02study hall back and cell phones and I said well you might as well just drop the cell phone

64:13so I went up there a couple times and we worked something out and they were gonna be here today

64:17with this volleyball they got switched there's just play Saturday so we came up with this with

64:23the last appointments of the day they like honest back so I said okay but we gotta have some criteria

64:28and a big thing with me was community service like you gotta put some effort into the community

64:35so that's the criteria we used to kind of do it second semester they got honors to me

64:40it'd be a year by year thing um if they got their 30 hours done and they have all this they

64:47would be able to take honors so 30 hours of community service maintain a 3.5 GPA or higher

64:54created well

65:00so for me if you guys approve it I mean I tell them I've let them know that day it's

65:04right now if you want to get a 30 hour 30 hours done and this is works for you as soon as you do

65:10it and then make sure they really understand it's pre-approved so that they know when they get done

65:16well I went and did this for four hours on the list yeah yeah

65:22any more

65:24discussion all in favor

65:31action item the graduation date

65:36I've moved to set the date for graduation in May 17th

65:382025

65:43what oh yes someone's got second

65:49we have a motion and a second to leave that discussion

65:52um I I mean I I recommended it because their hours are there okay bottom line I think consumers

65:58a long ways to get back for a Sunday for kids that are in state track I've been great fault

66:03different mrs. beer and I don't really differ on a lot of things this if you want and she thinks

66:09it's too early um should just be on the same day but I just take the bouncy back on the floor

66:15please you know each year like if we know like in point of it it was more in a day weekend that's

66:20on there whether it was in the middle of a full point thing you just know but actually it's my

66:25I feel like people do we always have it on a Saturday or you know or we did it on a Sunday

66:30or the same kind of thing so

66:36that's a matter of me at all yeah it makes no difference to me no not yet

66:41that

66:58but it'll be in the state golf will be earlier that we

67:03know me is crazy in my life look at the grad school things they just I always figured it's cool

67:07they just won't go down first the may anyway that's what happened

67:12so we have a motion in the second we discussed any more discussion

67:19all in favor

67:24we'll be down to the 50s by the club 50-50 I move to a lot of Lions club to sell 50-50 tickets

67:30at the home last ball games for the 21st-25th season

67:35the motion is second to the discussion

67:39all in favor

67:44purchase of color copy of the main office all right this is going to make you cringe a little bit

67:51for the dollar amount but it's we're at that point you've got a ton of copies to the one

67:57in the main office the one down there isn't color anyways so elementary we're just running this one

68:03up so the goal would be to move this one this one to elementary use it up it's going to

68:10die eventually go for it we would take the one in the elementary and put it in I don't know where

68:18that is yeah in the tech room and I think that would be good because our our copiers in the

68:26high school and our teachers don't have access to that early weekend because of the vault and

68:30everything so if they want to print something they can't really um so we've moved that which is

68:36you know for anything they need to do lesson planning to be able to use and then the new one

68:41hopefully by having that other ones they're primary we won't see them run a billion copies

68:48sort of you want to try to make a last one oh the other looks very bad again yeah I'd move to

68:56purchase the copy or as presented I got an emotional second a discussion

69:04the first door is located lower

69:20all these

69:26personal personal recommendations

69:32all right i have no internet so i'm on a land here

69:35basically i think it's on there this is here like here's

69:38we have the budget built in he has his boiler license

69:42um so i think he's the natural person and move into that he almost can take

69:48that then be it so i just recommend that salary what scott was making

69:54um quite frankly i thought we were gonna be using he got offered 90

69:59thousand dollars to go cook an oil field it's a

70:02but um he's great i i mean i think he'll be awesome i think

70:07he'll be someone that will stay a while um the guy's got one arm

70:11and the building looked great this morning like

70:15he's just a hard worker so i'd like to help him do that spot

70:20is that it's only in one this one isn't it yeah unmovable higher down here

70:25building the water here

70:28by second the motion the second day of discussion

70:35all in favor all right moving on to our time custodians

70:42all right this is annie berry and ashley sear um

70:46okay so annie berry's interested um she she's going to be a short timer she's

70:52pretty honest with me on the phone that i looked at her for a kitchen help too

70:55um she told me she was going to be leaving in a month and a month and a half

70:59and i was like i don't want to go through like finding another kitchen person

71:02then um so i mentioned well what about cleaning

71:06some extra hours after school um she was interested in that until she leaves and

71:11then ashley applied actually last year we had enough

71:14janitors at that time i said well um if anything ever opens i'll let you

71:20know she actually reapplied did everything before i even got to her

71:24um and these these are both like part-time minimal hours but it would

71:27really help cover because daryl daryl's going to be our guy now

71:32after that motion he's going to be our guy from six in the morning

71:36seven in the morning till two so now we don't have anyone for the elementary

71:40so that's where these two are going to come into play

71:42um and i think i think to ashley he'll do a great job

71:47and annie so move to your annie and ashley it's part-time custodian's

71:5324 25

71:56second kind of motion in this second any discussion

72:04hello there hi

72:08we're on to jim sandan

72:16i hope dandery jim sandan and is it churly churly churly

72:21early waves uh as presented

72:25tell you there's a motion in the second just any discussion

72:29so basically what happened jim wrote me a nice letter

72:32um and she has how many years 25 years and just 18 wasn't enough and she

72:38does an amazing job and churly's doing great too

72:41the other thing to use your mind is remember we have a lot of cash in that

72:45account i thought we're gonna use jim after christmas i

72:48thought she was going to go to jim major or whatever

72:51fail out and i think this is going to help keep her so

72:55um because of that she's not the head cook i felt like we had to raise

72:59churly's just to be fair and i think we're both worth it so

73:06any more discussion on different types

73:10moving on to another kitchen employee

73:16moved higher churly handy hard time food service employees working

73:20portion 15 hour 24 25 ending background check

73:29motion in the second is there any discussion

73:34on dinner hi hi

73:39this is some substitute employees for the 24 25 school year

73:45employees include dana leninger

73:57the motion in the second that we have discussion

74:02for favor hi hi

74:08all assisted coaches winter sports

74:13moving to approve nicholai london scott fishill last in the handy and robert

74:17owls as coaches presented an emotion

74:23sample motion that is

74:26so the motion in the second do we have any discussion

74:31well we'll probably have to find one more employees

74:34that's what coach coach wilson the process of looking

74:40he's going to go ice game the senior year but it's important let me find

74:45something else because this becomes a title not richway

74:48you can't have three and two it's got to be equal

74:51so

74:56yep our coach was probably looking for the leader i was really hungry

75:00Cooper came back and then he asked me and i said uh no

75:04so

75:16no it's any more discussion you need to give me instructions

75:19all of them are staying right yes uh i on all of them do i have to

75:24abstain from

75:27uh yes i abstain on that one bye all the rest

75:33hi hi and ffa advisors and chat phones for 24

75:40months to approve all of those volunteers

75:45that are you know it

75:48is it okay now they have to get back around just a second

75:53the motion in a second do we have any discussion

76:01okay all right i understand

76:07i had sure i just gotta i mean it's not

76:12i was gonna wait i just i got a question for you

76:16this has to be here this is ffa related okay here's this i mean

76:23what i mean this is this is this is uh

76:27okay ffa has active so you can take the class

76:38and you can be active because you're in the class

76:41when you taught it did you have do they have to decide if they're going to be

76:45active or non-active for us in the school to know

76:49they were paperworks in but what i did and it was

76:54they've changed the rules since i was there but i know all the rules

76:57i know this as well what happened is they changed the rules so that once you

77:03join a class you're an ffa period but you

77:07could choose not to be an active because the thing that is the

77:12issue is that some kids weren't maybe not active in the fall

77:18but then all of a sudden they all of a sudden decided

77:21this is pretty cool i wasn't doing that so they're going late

77:25so you know so they weren't active for the fall

77:29of course i guess it would be a little case where

77:33where it was like well you have to sign up to trap kids now

77:38and so that that's my problem right that's why i'm asking because i'm like

77:42okay maybe i'm i'm just gonna throw it maybe i'm not gonna take football

77:46because i don't know if it's gonna be a very good oh my gosh you made it to the

77:49playoffs i want to join football yeah and i would like but it's a little bit

77:54different because there's so all these different activities within

77:58did your kids have to come to meetings um my kids

78:02only the ones that were going to be active and go to events

78:06and go to an event okay just trying to navigate this whole thing

78:11only the one that they're the only the one that

78:15and because they changed the rules because if they used to be it used to be

78:20that yeah they they could they were all an egg and they did tap

78:24to be in a play well now they're concurrently enrolled doing what makes

78:28me nervous to be honest it's like i was one of those kids

78:31i'm like oh i'm not doing a fire oh wait we get to go to state

78:34buildings i'm joining the second semester i want to get this guy

78:38i'm gonna go lie to billy that's that's my worry is i don't think it's

78:42fair if you know you're not meetings you're not really engaging but then

78:48all of a sudden you see old bozeman expos if i i'd be out of school for five days

78:52if i'd be coming out first yeah and i i have to say

78:56of preservation but it's like i think when you're

79:01maybe it's changing a little bit as you go down the road but this year it's

79:05you know you get something started it's that give them more opportunities to

79:10join up you know i mean that's the way i look at it is all

79:13of a sudden more white fire and then all of a sudden an extra

79:16role yeah i could do all these things and maybe the kids just need to be

79:20caught and that you're not going to jump in and out and decide well i'm active

79:24now and then i'm not active so i don't have to do

79:27training rules for you know that'd be that

79:33well yeah if we could take another date that'd be

79:40great i'm gonna go to oh i'm just my usual i should have probably put that

79:45out there but there's a lot of things going on tonight i'm gonna go to the

79:48grizzly in the night which i kind of regret because they're probably gonna

79:51like so my boys are gonna watch and use to use kms for their first game

79:56they're very good but i then i plan on going to hell counting since i'm over

80:00there so i just can drive from your side with a

80:02shared in when you're going all out me yeah

80:07i'll likely call in in november so well the 18th i can't

80:12that's our next monday but could you do that

80:16tuesday i could do night yeah start night

80:21so play well start start to my life that's i don't we got enough people on

80:27our team and i don't know

80:31the 19th the 19th

80:34all right yeah i call it 19th it is one lineup yeah

80:52okay adjourn