October 14th, 2024 Meeting

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Thank you for participating in this democratic process. We appreciate your presence and are

glad you are here. That means that is there any public comment anything that's not on the agenda?

Is that me?

That's at the beginning public comments on part of that part?

Oh okay it's not me.

Is there anything else anybody want to talk about before we do get it?

We'll get to that, we'll get to the top but we'll go through a few things here before we get to that.

Approval of the minutes from September 9th.

Move to approval of minutes.

All right um one of the my students got spotlight this month was the Shakespeare in the schools.

They came and did uh Shakespeare in the summer night dream which I think are kids really like.

I think the kids like the workshops they put on after a little bit more.

So it's fun to go around watch the kids see some kids that aren't in speech and drama.

Maybe you should be in speech and drama. They have some different talents that are fun to see.

So some updates um the step into health is something that is this week we're working with

Daniels Memorial. I mean they're doing most of the work. I'm just helping the kids bring

kids involved. It's called student training and engagement program.

They are working really hard to in the morning they'll be here at school presenting different

jobs at the hospital um other than just nursing and like a doctor they're talking about billing and

coding um you know like things that Wendy's doll does with HIPAA and confidentiality and then after

lunch they'll go to the hospital and get to see the rehab department the clinic all sorts of different

things. I think it'll be a great opportunity for our kids to see the different opportunities and

health care here in town but in a night of health care system anywhere. They're trying to work on

a grow your own program just as we are always improving kids to become teachers they're doing

the same for health care. Um that's that'll be this week so I'll let you know how it goes after

the degree title one manual procedures. I attended Jack O'Connor's title one class in

Miles City um in September and developed a school title one procedure manual. We had our title one

last year when we realized because of all the federal funds we there's a lot of things that we

weren't doing so this Jack Jack ran the federal funds for OPI for seven years and then got out

when OPI kind of became a mess and became an old consultant. So we developed the procedure manual

with his help um just so that if for some reason I don't have this job anymore or Mr. Hardy's on

around or Mr. Ferguson's on around someone could come in and say these are the things that need to be

done for federal funds for title one. Also kind of refine how we refer students to title one um

all of our staff had to fill out four referral forms they're doing it already they have the data

it's just a way for us to communicate with our parents that was one concern or idea last year

at the title one meeting was a parent said well I want to know what might be this you know more

specifically what they're struggling with so this can send that home to the parents

so they can see like oh my child is struggling with problem solving in math and then if they have

questions they can talk to them for a minute um Indian education for all this is another

accreditation thing also the we have to prove that we're doing it for the monies that we're

getting from the state so all teachers have to teach at least one lesson per quarter for the

Indian education for all um so that's just an update. Beginning of the year benchmarks all of

our kids took the star test which is our district wide assessment I'm not going to play go through

every single one but this is our remember beginning of the year uh your green level green and blue or

fifty percent or your above your benchmark so ideally you got fifty percent or more of your

students which these graphs I mean our kids are actually are doing awesome it was really like I sat

and dug into it this morning and I was very impressed in reading and math how our kids are

doing and how our which shows how our teachers are doing because they're teaching the kids

up on top of that like in parentheses the number that's how many kids are in that grouping I did

one two three four six seven eight and then nine through eleven we don't have our 12th graders do

it just because they're going to sound other things you know you're getting right for college

showing that kind of stuff and kindergarten's not on there because we don't really require them to

take it until the winter then charged. So if you ever look through that and you have questions um

have my email here at your music list so we'll do that we do this benchmark at least three times

a year our teachers often do it in between there too for some progress monitoring to see how

the kids are improving or if we have a kid that's all of a sudden balmy and you know like what can

we do to help them and bring in any type one maybe there's more to it but I'll use this data.

And then upcoming our state testing window the new math testing that started this week

none of us were testing it which is okay we have six weeks to do it to do five math test

splits are you going to read this first one and then three reading test splits in grade three

through eight and it's all new some of that will be interesting to see how it goes with

technology and just how the kids do they're supposed to be shorter and then red ribbon week is the

end of october and then for the future conferences are here on november first

all right be sure it's sweet so light of sleep it says things coming up um i think there's a

couple things that you just need to be aware of um as more information comes i will share it with you

and possibly maybe to that doctor community i think that hot topic for public education this

year is going to be vouchers a voucher system um i think what's really scary is that it took

arizona multiple years to get that voucher system in place montan is like going from zero to the

hundred immediately and what's nervous is what makes public education nervous about it is one

they don't play about the same rules and two um they can really urge your funding in your school

so say for example i've got three kids right this is what's going on in arizona i take my three kids

out of scoby um public education my wife's a teacher i have her home school my kids i get to

collect a and b for those kids and in arizona it's long there's not much um reporting basically i can

say well i'm buying legos for my kids you know for part of this assignment but maybe i buy legos

that are worth a lot of money and then i sell them on ebay and i put that money in my pocket

that stuff's going on um so i think when we talk to the superintendent group um and who have a cape

for us they're against vouchers if they don't they have to play by the same rules and prove that hey

they're taking the mass test they're being proficient um they're doing everything they need

they actually have their curriculum um getting held by the same standard then i guess if you want to

vote it in what all means do but if it's a wide open free fraud i think that's a dangerous spicy

situation um also just to let you know i mean we've seen inflation go through the rough um

it's sad but i don't see a lot according to our people sam and everyone got a kid for us again

we don't see a lot of money coming to us this legislative session um to help with

oh let's be honest there hasn't been any help really for um building since world war two to renovate

these buildings um our teacher salaries were ridiculously low when you look at this with

an american general the state is lacking horribly in that department and the reason why they think

there will probably be no money there might be a little inflation that we'll get is because

their centennial report they have to do tenure report or decade report whatever will be the next

time so they're probably going to kick down their can down road and say oh we want to see that

record to fully do anything financially so those are kind of the two big things i've taken away

count date was october 7th that's completed um everything's been reported to lpi um finish that

today to see you guys know quick rundown elementary is at 149 g you're at 45 by school 81 that's a

total enrollment of 275 i mean that's down we'll be back down to three-year average we've got a

couple years where they got lucky to have to plan that one year we'll be back to three-year

average because we're almost at 300 so um with that i also had to fill out our class

side of roster size for any day um and i remember we talked about this a couple years ago uh

basically our football basketball images say wants to know our enrollment all the way down to

sixth grade participation number um for that class b class e-talk and in 26 27 we will be at 100 kids

in here and opine co-op will push us over that i wanted to now you have to hold it for two consecutive

years they're important to go that far but we're going to be in that talk soon and one of their

biggest things mhsa looks at is how successful you are or pretty dang successful so i mean if we

choose to at the time we could appeal it just know that by how successful our programs are

it'd be a tough appeal to me so um but we never you know we've got kids move out move in we'll deal

with that when the time comes just sit you're aware uh field brothers um i still haven't received a

quote from them but i talked to them last month they did they were working on the fire hall they

came over and tried to patch some of our as you noticed our commons leaps when it rains or the

snow melts they tried to patch some of those um if they didn't get it all i got to call them back

um there it's still that one right by the commons doors leaking um so hopefully i don't know if

that comeback will try hopefully they will try to get that fixed and in here is actually started

looking to um so uh row situations are going to be something we're going to have to really think

about um with new rapport and get some of these repaired on the good news they think our our

roof over our gym is pretty solid you know our 25 year life expectancy is up but they thought is we

could at least get another five years out of that i guess the discussion is do we want to tackle

maybe some other things and leave that or push the can down the road but not only worry is when

you kind of start getting off schedule things can add up and all of a sudden you have even a bigger

so um that's where we are there johnson controls uh there are boiler people

that look over our boiler they actually team um kind of gave daryl an in-person train

walk them through the computer program help turn our boilers on just to make sure since this is

his first time doing this and scott unfortunately isn't hearing more um and uh they'll be back to

extend those pipes so they don't freeze so that was nice and then become i thought i'll do that

science testing this is just something uh we already looked at math and el a i told you guys

we've never had science done before um and this company that we work with was like would you like

it i said absolutely i'd love to see our science scores um they're just really good we're 63 percent

of our students were proficient in 2024 um we were out 14 percent um from 23 to 56 in 2024

so it's really good our stores are awesome if you want to see it i can pass around to show you

i don't know did you look at that did you like it yeah i think it shows some good things that i've

never seen anything on the science side since i've been here yeah it's been a few years again but

yeah so that's that and then to piggyback my last thing off this math testing

i know there's people excited about it i'm kind of half glass full i'm a little nervous about it

there's no baseline i felt really comfortable with the s back um i like that we were collecting

data before we're going and now that's all out the window because it's a new test and i would say

there's concern that probably the state of montan is not going to test well it could be wrong but

i know there's worry that our test scores might not look as good with a new test because there's

no baseline we don't we don't know um so there's just some worry that's all i have any questions for

you

it's great moving on to the planes

we'll improve the planes from september 4 to october 10 from the amount of 149

thousand eight hundred twenty one dollars and 78 cents as presented a second

about

the emotion the second discussion

full discussion all in favor hi hi

so

i move to approve the activity account

check it

the motion and the second on the activity accounts

discussion

all in favor

hi hi

now on to the action

action a foreign policy updates for title one

move to dot board policy 3125 at homeless education assistance dispute resolution format

the second

the motion and the second

no this is just from an audit we didn't have that we have

just just to encourage us to ask what the foreign policy is

it's

your time right

to

be miscarried this is the facility Mr. Hardy has been approached by a member of the public regarding

access to the walking chapter in school hours currently the public has access to the facility as

falls during this day when we can't hear you

when you talk to us seriously we can't hear you guys okay

Mr. Hardy has been approached by a member of the public regarding access to the walking track

during school hours currently the public has access to the facility as falls

during the school year the facility hours are

5 a.m. to 8 a.m. and 4 p.m. to 9 p.m. Monday through Thursday

11 a.m. to 1 p.m. Monday through Thursday with access to the walking track we have to stop at the

office and sign and then 5 a.m. to 9 p.m. Friday through Sunday unless school is scheduled for Friday

summer hours are 5 a.m. to 9 p.m.

members of the community feel that the building should be accessible at all hours

there's been a long-standing thought that the community paid for the facility

then they should have access to it at any time during COVID the facility was completely

shut down and the following year was opened on a limited basis before school and after school hours

in 2022 community members asked to have the hours during the lunchtime to come and walk

at the august 21st 2022 meeting was approved to open the school from 11 to 1 daily

with the community members having to check in on this

so that's a summary of what this is about

I'll open it to discussion

thank you very much I'm going to be the spokesman for this group I have a

something to show

all

I have to with your

and if I would like to give you some history about the school to schools

this is the shovel that was used for the first day when we first

addition to the school and I'd like to give you the name on this show

Carol Brindon John Brindon Phyllis Call Cliff Haigbilt Dale Shabbat

Mark Shield Chet Solberg Linda Hardin Pam Furley Matt Floyd Dustin Hill Lanny Marlene

Donnie Kingfield Banjo Gerard Lynn Christensen and about three names that have faded with time

but this is kind of a physical emblem of life for school to schools and for our community

this all started about 35 years ago after two bond elections had failed

we had we had a meeting in uh I remember in the basement of Neyvon Fellowship Neyvon crew

as what is the biggest need for school and there was about 30 names that were 30 things

that were listed and the top one that came out was we need a new gym we've got this box of the

gym we need to do gym well how are we going to pay for it we've two bond elections have failed

what are we going to do and out of that meeting came the SAFI organization

it was a startup of dreamers people like me have no I'm not from Scovie I did not graduate

from Scovie High School a lot of people on this list have no bonds to Scovie but a lot too

so it was just love for for our students and for our community to use this facility

so important SAFI Don Hayden I actually talked to his wife Laura she was very supportive of what

I'm talking about today Don Hayden was instrumental and give us our 501c3 so we could raise many in

our goal was to raise the entire 3.7 million dollars to build this school well obviously

we didn't quite make that but we made a million and a half and I know there's a lot of talk about

well this is a school is funded by the taxpayers the word by the taxpayer taxpayers but one half

this building that you see here was paid for by private donations and hundreds and hundreds of

hours of donated help people laying the floors putting in the bleachers working on this music

paying for that sound system over there the air sound room is amazing it's incredible the

amount of time that we've been put into this school for a love of this community and I know

you guys have that love too or you wouldn't be sitting here um so that's how it all started

um so after we raised that million and a half but we knew that the time was coming

wait do you want to hold the show sure the time had come where we needed to turn it out to the

school and I have this cool we have a lot of coverage from the paper here's this cool ad I

would have to show you but this first look the first building useful like look at the gym was like

having candy corner so we went through I don't know how many different plans about how this

school would be fun to be made uh Donna Hagen paid the architect personally to get this thing

or get this diagram of how the school is going to be and I went through many more changes after

that but there there's incongruable number of people and put tons of money in having this

amazing facility that we have and everyone that I've talked to and many people I've talked to

say that this facility would not be here today if we did not have in the bond election with this

room here that the gym which was not called a gym it was called the activity center

would be or I forgot to mention that we got something on this shuttle I want to show you

would not be here if we had not said the community can use this facility

for for walking and for using the commons area and actually the shuttle I was going to tell you

the date on this um it's a little faded right at groundbreaking ceremony was June 15th 1998

at 7 p.m. and these are the people that was here and there's a picture of that too simple

but I don't know where it is so I've talked to a lot of people that are not here today

that I visited there for various reasons that we would really like to keep this open

Pastor Kelly had a wonderful thing to say he said you know what there was a great blending

of generations you would have and I couldn't experience that myself when I was walking

she would be like the second grade second grade class would be coming up and doing their laps

before they went to PE and I thought what a great learning experience for them that they're seeing

older people like me trying to stay in shape with experience for them hey they're trying to stay in

shape but they're also learning matters they're learning that when they're running by somebody

that they shouldn't be running into them you know and so the blending generation and so

for glenn christensen whose name is on the shovel who taught here we said that would not have been

there if we had not said the walking track was open for the public she said it would have not

passed along the lecture don so he said hey old people need a place to walk here in the winter

and they can't get up at five or eight in the morning they don't get up that early I said

yeah I know and so there's so many people there's so supportive of this then you

board members I know when you got this letter from Dave's over he's like why am I getting a letter

from Dave's over he's not even he doesn't even live here I don't know if you know that Dave's over

gave 250 million dollars or not a million he gave a quarter of a billion dollars to this project

that he unchecked he unchecked not to mention you have the solvers scholarship that's given every

year he has a vested interest in this school and I want to reread the letter that he said

number one he the first one he gave to Tim he gave a little family history about he knows

you're a family I told him back to Carol I called Dave back he wasn't aware that we were

letting people into the school at the selected hours he thought we were closing it completely

I know I got that letter too but he also said something else about phase two and phase three

and all of that stuff but he said one salient point of the campaign to raise money was at the

walking running track would be included in the plans and would be offered to the public

and the reason I'm here is because you're super generous I said to him well why is it safe to run

at or leave at 11 and it's not safe to go at night and he said well I want to shut it down

and let it also so that's why I'm here because we want this place open during the day so people

could use it and he ended he ended he ends up by saying uh I hope the school board takes my letters

seriously and inspects the superintendent to open the track to the public even if he thinks it

shouldn't be he works for you I think it's important that we that you respect that you're here to

represent us on the board and listen to what we have to say and I first heard nothing but safety

that was for the safety of the students well I think you've done an amazing job of responding to

the safety of the community and you know locking down the school is good but we have our fingerprints

and our code I would still like to go in that south door of the school and not disturb the kids

hate to walk by the classrooms and then kids turning their heads as you're walking by

I rather know we didn't have to do that I'd rather just show up at that door and then see why it is

not safe but now I'm coming up to this idea that this area is used for discipline and I would like

you to respond to this board member so as you explain to me why how this is used for discipline

I understand it's used for students that maybe have cognitive issues that need a place to be

compressed away from their peers so they take them out there to fall in their blocks and laps

while they can calm down yeah so why not can we not use the old gym

uh I guess it was the walking track

oh why but the walking track I would like to present to you that the walking track was also

we wanted for the kids but we want it for their community and the classrooms for the schools have

been used or the kids have been used to have these things as you're mentioning which are very very

important I see no reason why that cannot be in the old gym where when they used to do that the

old gym anyone used to run laps in the old gym my kids ran gym they my kids did not get to enjoy

this new facility um Carol yes we have other people we'll talk to and then we'll come back to it

I'll answer that one because the little gym gets used all the time too the little gym is being used

for its things and so we need other areas to take our kids to to walk them and to calm them down

and to do things that we need to do do the exercises that we need to do and you know I think that's

totally awesome and why not why couldn't I not be walking there at the same time it's uh yeah I mean

it's none of your business what kid I have walking

but I wouldn't have to know why people walk in

but Carol if you were not just just bring my kids up there have a bit and then you see it

able to act properly and you say content so the boy is up there so I want to fit you know

what no if it happens I'm not saying you would be the person but it happens and it's just it's

it's not the same little thing I want to present to you that if we had run this fun election say

we're not chugging it down if we were well but that's what mr um no we're not shutting the gym

down or the lock and trap down and that's what I feel like you miss a lot of people because

that's why I had you fall great to start with because I didn't know the limit the doubt

and that's why I asked you to fall great I didn't know the limit it was but I'm just

I didn't go by mr party I said why is it safe to walk at all while older there's a safety thing

why is it safe to walk at all but then it's not safe to walk at night and he says I want to shut

the whole thing down you're right you should be so that's why I am here we understand I just want

to say to you guys I know you put your names on the line to be here on the lord and listen to people

like me and uh if somebody else wants to say something in addition but I just want to express

who are that we're here because we're here because the students but we're also here and I hope that

you would not take action on this tonight I hope you would think about this a little bit more and

maybe we can work out some other proper license thank you very much thanks

does anybody else want to say anything I got hold on very I would just like to appreciate

that you're interested in it I am thankful that 35 years ago that you guys raised enough money to

build up students right from around here and this is being done a little bit of what you said

at what point has that 1.5 million dollars been paid back right 35 years is a long time and we're

not sure we don't want the building shut down we think it's great for one of the only schools in

the state of Montana who opens any hours of the day as far as a teacher standpoint I use the walking

track because it's the lighting up there is calmer than in the small gym and some sensory kids need

that versus like the bright LED lights that come from small gym and it's being used and my other

point is like safety is a concern for us like when we got that text message last year about

the shooting threat that we came to our school every teachers we some of us cried our stomachs

throughout it's a never ending thing for us and our top priority is our students right if it was

up to me I would have it closed all day long right and I think Mr. Hardy was maybe speaking on that

right because a lot of us teachers who use it for our students which is what this building is for

aren't I don't like that I send them up there knowing that there's maybe another adult up there

or if they use the bathroom while they're running laps it's just an issue that could arrive in our

new age right so protecting my students is my number one goal I know if there was a school

shooting in this building you would all expect me to go in front of my students and I absolutely

would right that's part of I mean this is part of my job right you say it may not ever happen here

but every school shooting that's happened every town that it's happened in has said that

so just keep that in mind when you're trying to get our school open all hours of the day

you know uh there's only one of you on the board that was here when we raised that money

all of you on the board are recipients of what we did your kids and you got to use it

not me job no but I there's your kids now Jim big time and so is anybody else so I'll ask anybody

here you go to church you go to other public meetings how many guard dogs are there in the

front of the church press button to keep it open and I'll tell you what if you want to close the

school them we'll quit sports no more basketball no more soccer because I'll tell you what when

you've got a thousand people in there at a basketball game and you don't know the other side

on the other side of the story you're going to tell me that there is a some slinky guy or gal

that couldn't get in there and hide and do some damage to the school they can't they can't I go to

church most of the times when I'm here at school there's no doors locked I'm concerned about that

I know what's happening around here I'm 83 years old I've raised more damn money for this community

and kcdm and what have you then you'll never know and a lot of us have as well

class 8 fell Lanny Marlon II I could name name on name on name on name this facility was raised

for the community and you look at all what the community has raised because of private

enterprise hospital kcdm the school the fire department the ambulance department we have

raised about 18 different outfits that raised three to four million dollars for this community

and if you forget your community you're going to lose and I'll tell you what the only way this

community is going to keep going it's got to keep going and if you want to be afraid all your life

you don't think I don't care about kids I care about kids as much as I care about me at 83 years old

I don't want anybody here but I'll tell you what you saw what happened on two assassinations on

Trump if somebody wants to try to do something they'll do it I was there in in when John Kennedy

in in Colorado I saw him getting shot on tv you think I want to see that but some people

can do things if they really are diabolical enough to do it

and how much protection are we supposed to have all our life if we're going to live in

a cocoon all our life you just as well die and this community just as well die I just want to

tell you I've been a promoter for this community all my life and now we're trying to build a new

hospital I guarantee one thing you start closing down this school like you're trying to do

there's going to be some big donors that are not going to be for that hospital

or for other things in this community and that's a shame because I want to leave this community

stronger and better than when I got here and if that isn't your duty to do that

and if you're so scared as teachers that you don't dare do that you shouldn't teach

you shouldn't preach you shouldn't be the mayor you shouldn't be in the legislature thank you John

well I'm going to tell you what Tim this is important I know it is important and I have a

lot to say what you said too so if you go on finish and then you'll be fine so I tell you what

just remember what you're doing is for the community that's not for special interests

there's no special interest here John from we're doing what we think is we don't I don't know what

we're doing I'm speaking for myself what's best for the kids what's the day and age has changed

I mean liability we're trying to mitigate liability let me talk about liability very well I've been

on the KC jam bar longer than anybody else with cliff eggs belt and a few others

Terry is our insurance Terry he never talks about insurance liability when people walk into

the store that used to be my dad's store it's not the same as the good old days John I agree

but Terry doesn't talk about that when people come into the KC jam store either with people I

asked him and asked well Terry can you speak on this what is our liability what is what is the

best interest of the insurance company to cover us if John that was to happen

the policies are going to cover bodily injury or property damage that occurs

it'll be open during the school hours regardless and you know what it comes down to is

is what you know is best in you know in the bottom line you end up in a lawsuit

the jurors sitting there they're going to say prudent person rule what do the majority of

the other schools do how do they handle it type thing you know if you're doing it differently

then it does make a difference what it is if it's you're running your cows or right now we're talking

about schools your school runs differently than most of the others you know then there's going to be

a greater chance that liability gets pointed to you and that you know are going to lose if you know

90% of the other schools here's how they handle it you're one of those that

outlier you know you have a bigger chance of you know getting a suit awarded against you if

you're doing something that you know the majority of the others are not doing and so it just all

depends on you know and the bottom line like I say Logan would speak of that he knows the legal

part of it but that's you know and the insurance going to cover it regardless of you know which way

that it is and so deep enough well I tell you what just remember the ramifications so what you do

tonight are going to be ramifications for scoby and danious county we're doing we're not I feel

like you're talking to us like we're we're working for some outside of organization here and we're

doing what we think is best for the kids and the safety if something happened in two weeks from now

and we could have prevented it I we cannot we cannot get rid of all the risks I anybody can hide in

there at any time yeah we're just trying to mitigate that risk and we had multiple hours available

we were never once talked about shoveling the walking track down but that's what I was told

it's not true not true well you did tell me that I should have here I'll speak now here's

not a conversation where caro wanted to know if I could come she could come and meet in my opinion

she didn't want to talk to me she wanted to be on the board agenda I stress the I stress that

the hours that have already been stated that are open and unfortunately today in the world we live in

11 to 2 doesn't exist so now it's a public meeting being recorded and I don't know who's

going to be watching this and there are people watching and the reality is we're being negligent

by being open from 11 to 1 so if this conversation would have never happened 11 to 1 would have

never came up because people would have known and now it's brought to our attention and not

message it so we have a letter this board has received from our school attorney Jeff Walden

explaining the negligence and what can happen in liability and insurance premiums going up because

of it not only because of our kid's safety on the walking track but also your safety if one

of our kid runs into you and you break the leg or arm I mean you can but that's that's that's

this is a legal opinion not my opinion the other thing that's really interesting is I feel like

I was hired by this board and part of my duty is to make sure my staff is safe the kids are safe

and I try to keep this out of the liability getting sued taxpayer dollar money the reality is

we are taking that risk on far more than we should be by having those but from 11 to 1

um so

I'm with Mrs. Matternack and everyone I am so grateful that this money was raised

and I'm so great for this facility and I have no meaning shutting it down I'd actually propose

to extend the hours before and after school to make up from that 11 to 1 the other problem is

and I know there's teachers in this room there's no other teacher that would get evaluated

by the public during their class and our PE teacher is

that that is a problem that is not right that is not fair for Mr. Knight or who are an extra

PE teacher can be um so that's also an issue I have um I found this really interesting I

love the history I was able to pull up I mean I commend you these documents um the articles

the original plans with the baseball field in the back and three basketball courts and two tennis

courts the big gym having more bathrooms and locked rooms and it did I mean oh that for that

all could have been done in a while that would have been state of the art but I also think it's

really interesting in October 1992 at the school board committee meeting the number one goal

nowhere in these documents it says it should be open during a school day the number one goal

says the main goal of SAPI is for improving the conditions of scoby schools so that our

rural education will continue and that our students will be competitive and I think that's

so wonderful because it ties in what we're talking about with kids having a bad day and being able

to use the walking track you met your goal I think that's lovely that's exactly what this says

I think that's great that was never discussed in this afternoon right there that was scoby

school board on October 19th 1992 those in presence chairman Bill is called trustee Ed

Hinton playing Marlon he's guaranteed you read it right there main goal

which is great but believe me I admire you teachers I admire what you're doing with the kids

but it just seems to be that there must be other places in the school

so what happens in the in the small gym they have any classes in the small gym

we try to protect the big door so there's a smaller five because when I was first

walking in this school before COVID and everything got shut down all the PE classes were in the big

gym and so there was no issue with that at all and I remember talking to Bucky Henderson

once when he heard that they were shutting the school down he said I like the people walking

around when when I was having PE classes I never heard a PE teacher that complained about people

walking during the school and and there was not the little gym was sitting empty I don't understand

why sometimes we have high school PE and elementary PE going on at the same time too

so it just seems like there's other places that make them be disappointed you know what I went

here in 1959 they graduated we had places or two and a half times as many people in school

using the little gym and now we got the little gym and the big gym and what have you and we can't

use anything yes you can use I feel like there's been a big misunderstanding here we are not it's

not our intention to close the gym there for the walking track it is we may discuss the

eliminating the 11 to 1 o'clock hour I called the school today I talked to John I said how many

people walked today zero I know I have to sign in between 11 and 1 you have to sign in and she

told me today there was nobody there she said which is fairly unusual but at the high end there's maybe

six so those six people would be out from 11 to 1 and we where we are discussing expend going

earlier hours and later hours we're still talking about 80 hours a week that that walking track is

open that's a heck of a lot more than the grocery store the pharmacy the hospital any other place

so I'll do respects inconvenience be damned this place is about the school

facilities the kids and the staff in my opinion well mr. Tuttle is one of the persons I just

talked to yesterday as a matter of fact I said hey I used to see you at the track all the time

yeah he said but I can't handle those hours I can't I can't do it between 11 to 1 and then

they shut down I've talked to more people there used to be 34 people a day 30 to 40 people a day

on that track that are not walking there anymore because of the shut down hours and I'm talking

about the middle of the winter now right now it probably doesn't make a bit of a difference

everybody's walking out we're gonna be outside but the middle of the winter I think of the

older people like me to keep their keep moving and keep doing things it would be so nice if

there was extended hours at least during the winter months so people can be there and walk

Terrell I actually work in the office during lunch hour and historically there is maybe two

people that sign in every day right that's it I know that's it but that that's I think anybody

can come and only two are actually signing in and I know this because those hours are not

people like to be home at lunch time those people also have jobs and that's their lunch hour and

they're in town they're not country people like me that maybe is a nine o'clock at

appointment in town and I'm not going to sit around till 11 to walk John I share your sentiment

I don't like the idea that the school has to turn into a maximum security facility

because of what's going on elsewhere in the world I think Mr. Hardy is doing an excellent job

as superintendent in and training his focus on school liability and being a good steward

of our facility and taking care of the teachers and staff and having an eye towards

what a prudent person would do like like Barry mentioned I think Mr. Hardy talked to

a dozen surrounding schools about and nobody had those hours open during the day that's

not convincing to me that we shouldn't do it I talked to a few people who shared this sentiment

that a few people my age have graduated from here that they like seeing their grandparents

coming in and walking and other community members during the day I I hope that we maybe

don't take any action on this tonight and that we have an opportunity to do a little more brainstorming

on it keeping those 11 to one hours and then before and after I don't I'm not convinced of

what the right thing to do is yet knowing how slimy attorneys can be and also knowing

how much it has meant to the community I know one of the big critiques the school board gets

is that decisions are made without hearing the community and I hope that some of those

critiques can be dispelled after something like this because I think we've given a great opportunity

for the community to be heard and likewise having heard from the community I hope maybe

we take a breath before we make a decision I'd really appreciate that if you would think about

that a little bit more and I I always have been a talker you know I guess I I feel like it's like

there's there are people that are attacking us thinking we're not doing our job we're here to

listen and we're trying to do the best it's like I'm not sure that everybody thinks that

they think that we're just doing something for our own good will well I didn't get on the school

board for that I didn't teach school for 25 years for that I did it for a page I've paycheck yes but

that's not what I did that's why I talk and why I've been involved in community every

every community organization that I've been in and there's a bunch of them and and

but I looked at the schedule is 100 I mean the school is open 88 hours a week

that people can walk I wish it was all the time 24-7 but sometimes that can't happen

and I saw I was teaching school and when all these schools started started I I mean

when we had the deal last spring we came in at a special school board meeting

and it took me back to Columbine on April 20th all those years ago when I had a classroom full

of kids and it was 700 miles away and it was that but I when I came in the building I looked around

look out there's somebody out here that's not me I'm you know I'm not paranoid person I just don't

I think everybody just needs to realize that we're we're we're trying to do the best for everybody

and sometimes that doesn't make everybody happy and you know I mean I think every I think

they were all trying to be on the same page but to to get the criticism that maybe we're

not I get a little offended sometimes yeah but the way I can walk here and in a front door

right today and I can't do it during school hours and you got a game playing over here

what kind of protections you have here right now don't give me that bullshit

no I'm not entirely full of students right now I'm I don't I don't want to argue with John

that's what you want and I'm not going to do it

is there any more discussion about this no I think it's all over I just want to thank you

for listening and I hope you we appreciate you putting your names on the line to be on this

we appreciate what the teachers concerns are we all have concerns I just I guess my main thing

when I came tonight is that I just never dreamed that our walking track would be open as a disciplinary

thing for it is if there's other reasons but Carol it's not used as a disciplinary I'm like

the chief disciplinary officer here it is not being used for discipline oh please do not spread

that okay it's not well but that's kind of what I've been gathering well your information is well

I'll have to visit with you sometimes yes okay just mr. Harding just said to me on our visit he said

well what would you think if if your student was in your kid was in trouble and and a community

person walked by and that was my first hint that I thought there must be something going on there

and I've talked to one person that walks here regularly that said that you were disciplining

a student I've never disciplined in front of public people we de-escalate well anyway

I just want to say thank you thank you I appreciate you listening and I hope you'll take some of our

sentiments to heart and ignore some of the other things that maybe you said but we all love this

area we I know you love your you love kids and you wouldn't be here you love kids because you

wouldn't or you wouldn't be here we also were there when it started to and we love kids or it

wouldn't be here yeah I mean we helped do it too so yeah so and I know you did a lot too but so

well thank you thank you thank you very much

so we're still here is there any more discussion yeah I'll all this I got one more thing I'd like

to be on record and it doesn't mean personal don't take it personal but I recommend that this

building is closed during the day I would also go as far as Jeff Weldon for the negligence

and say that it probably should be closed more when our kids are at basketball practice

and practice after school they shouldn't be here and the reason why I'm recommending that in public

comment and because when something bad happens I don't want the government to follow my head

I appreciate I appreciate exactly how you handled it Mr. Hardy

I don't think there's anything that could have been been done better about it I think there might be

room for some maybe solutions that haven't been thought of

uh I do a little maybe just a little something more like this by individual

any more discussion

zero motion

I'm not thrilled about going to a left PM

filling and I'll waste that in his email he's not here that was maybe a little late

so the thought with that would be and that's just records that's why if you make the motion

you gotta make it on your own the thought is that is for adults so in our computer system with

our fingerprints we have kids and adults so kids would be out at 9 30 the adults could stay till 11

yeah I worry about unsupervised non-adult access in general more than anything

my head went to is it possible to have something for retirees to access the building like coming

in and checking in in the office during the day what does that look like with scheduling because

I don't go into this safety thing so much as I use it with the PE teacher what other teacher

has drop-ins from the community during the class I'm more concerned about that

I don't like that and if there's any means of navigating that while still allowing access for

the community because even more than what showed up here tonight I've been in

I feel like the community has been misled too I've been jumped by your closing the track

which is not in fact at all now happening and that's every complaint I've had has been

that because there's been this but I've had people say I'm glad you're thinking about closing

I mean it's not like a hundred percent of everybody thinks we should be always wanting more

something I've had people come to me at least what's just the ground parent of parents say

I don't think it should be over during the day I mean so that's not it's not every

those people aren't here but that doesn't mean there don't exist thank you Duane

we have a lot here but do we have a motion on this or

the motion

I need actually how I'm going to make a motion

that the facility hours be changed from 4 a.m. until 7 30 a.m. and 4 30 p.m. to 9 p.m.

not during the day of and not during the day that's my motion

we have a motion we have a second

I think if I think if we combine I went to open though I think and that's now that

we can come my other type of solution maybe there's

a working group that can come and at least talk about it and we can bring it back at a later date

and I guess I should have a second of the motion and then we could have

my probably shouldn't now I think motion does yes and we can put this on the agenda for next time

and maybe buildings and grounds can have a

I think that might have we should also change this policy then because really our school board

policy gives me the authority

with that in mind I would otherwise defer to you Mr. Hardy I mean that's why we

why we hire you and trust you with the day to day that was my other primary concern and all

this is I don't want to be I don't want any perception that that we're undermining your

decision oh no I told me I'm not taking it that way let's not change any policy right now

I'll ask for a second one more time

it's dead so we're gonna move on and we'll be with that

the next time there's a sleep in put up a sign

right big morning I went there and I walked around and I looked down there and there

so I walked four miles in the dark I don't think they even knew I was there

that's probably my problem they probably just went to bed before he got there I was gonna say

that's probably why so sound asleep thanks Barry yeah can you guys leave that for open

yeah it was so noisy sorry yep yeah

all right I'm just gonna give you a little rundown I was uh we got some girls working in the class

we go help there's just a lot of kids there so Mr. Beer and I go up there

to kind of monitor all I was talking with Claire let fall

all um a Kennedy Cromwell um you guys would love the conversation they had two things on her

study hall back and cell phones and I said well you might as well just drop the cell phone

so I went up there a couple times and we worked something out and they were gonna be here today

with this volleyball they got switched there's just play Saturday so we came up with this with

the last appointments of the day they like honest back so I said okay but we gotta have some criteria

and a big thing with me was community service like you gotta put some effort into the community

so that's the criteria we used to kind of do it second semester they got honors to me

it'd be a year by year thing um if they got their 30 hours done and they have all this they

would be able to take honors so 30 hours of community service maintain a 3.5 GPA or higher

created well

so for me if you guys approve it I mean I tell them I've let them know that day it's

right now if you want to get a 30 hour 30 hours done and this is works for you as soon as you do

it and then make sure they really understand it's pre-approved so that they know when they get done

well I went and did this for four hours on the list yeah yeah

any more

discussion all in favor

action item the graduation date

I've moved to set the date for graduation in May 17th

2025

what oh yes someone's got second

we have a motion and a second to leave that discussion

um I I mean I I recommended it because their hours are there okay bottom line I think consumers

a long ways to get back for a Sunday for kids that are in state track I've been great fault

different mrs. beer and I don't really differ on a lot of things this if you want and she thinks

it's too early um should just be on the same day but I just take the bouncy back on the floor

please you know each year like if we know like in point of it it was more in a day weekend that's

on there whether it was in the middle of a full point thing you just know but actually it's my

I feel like people do we always have it on a Saturday or you know or we did it on a Sunday

or the same kind of thing so

that's a matter of me at all yeah it makes no difference to me no not yet

that

but it'll be in the state golf will be earlier that we

know me is crazy in my life look at the grad school things they just I always figured it's cool

they just won't go down first the may anyway that's what happened

so we have a motion in the second we discussed any more discussion

all in favor

we'll be down to the 50s by the club 50-50 I move to a lot of Lions club to sell 50-50 tickets

at the home last ball games for the 21st-25th season

the motion is second to the discussion

all in favor

purchase of color copy of the main office all right this is going to make you cringe a little bit

for the dollar amount but it's we're at that point you've got a ton of copies to the one

in the main office the one down there isn't color anyways so elementary we're just running this one

up so the goal would be to move this one this one to elementary use it up it's going to

die eventually go for it we would take the one in the elementary and put it in I don't know where

that is yeah in the tech room and I think that would be good because our our copiers in the

high school and our teachers don't have access to that early weekend because of the vault and

everything so if they want to print something they can't really um so we've moved that which is

you know for anything they need to do lesson planning to be able to use and then the new one

hopefully by having that other ones they're primary we won't see them run a billion copies

sort of you want to try to make a last one oh the other looks very bad again yeah I'd move to

purchase the copy or as presented I got an emotional second a discussion

the first door is located lower

all these

personal personal recommendations

all right i have no internet so i'm on a land here

basically i think it's on there this is here like here's

we have the budget built in he has his boiler license

um so i think he's the natural person and move into that he almost can take

that then be it so i just recommend that salary what scott was making

um quite frankly i thought we were gonna be using he got offered 90

thousand dollars to go cook an oil field it's a

but um he's great i i mean i think he'll be awesome i think

he'll be someone that will stay a while um the guy's got one arm

and the building looked great this morning like

he's just a hard worker so i'd like to help him do that spot

is that it's only in one this one isn't it yeah unmovable higher down here

building the water here

by second the motion the second day of discussion

all in favor all right moving on to our time custodians

all right this is annie berry and ashley sear um

okay so annie berry's interested um she she's going to be a short timer she's

pretty honest with me on the phone that i looked at her for a kitchen help too

um she told me she was going to be leaving in a month and a month and a half

and i was like i don't want to go through like finding another kitchen person

then um so i mentioned well what about cleaning

some extra hours after school um she was interested in that until she leaves and

then ashley applied actually last year we had enough

janitors at that time i said well um if anything ever opens i'll let you

know she actually reapplied did everything before i even got to her

um and these these are both like part-time minimal hours but it would

really help cover because daryl daryl's going to be our guy now

after that motion he's going to be our guy from six in the morning

seven in the morning till two so now we don't have anyone for the elementary

so that's where these two are going to come into play

um and i think i think to ashley he'll do a great job

and annie so move to your annie and ashley it's part-time custodian's

24 25

second kind of motion in this second any discussion

hello there hi

we're on to jim sandan

i hope dandery jim sandan and is it churly churly churly

early waves uh as presented

tell you there's a motion in the second just any discussion

so basically what happened jim wrote me a nice letter

um and she has how many years 25 years and just 18 wasn't enough and she

does an amazing job and churly's doing great too

the other thing to use your mind is remember we have a lot of cash in that

account i thought we're gonna use jim after christmas i

thought she was going to go to jim major or whatever

fail out and i think this is going to help keep her so

um because of that she's not the head cook i felt like we had to raise

churly's just to be fair and i think we're both worth it so

any more discussion on different types

moving on to another kitchen employee

moved higher churly handy hard time food service employees working

portion 15 hour 24 25 ending background check

motion in the second is there any discussion

on dinner hi hi

this is some substitute employees for the 24 25 school year

employees include dana leninger

the motion in the second that we have discussion

for favor hi hi

all assisted coaches winter sports

moving to approve nicholai london scott fishill last in the handy and robert

owls as coaches presented an emotion

sample motion that is

so the motion in the second do we have any discussion

well we'll probably have to find one more employees

that's what coach coach wilson the process of looking

he's going to go ice game the senior year but it's important let me find

something else because this becomes a title not richway

you can't have three and two it's got to be equal

so

yep our coach was probably looking for the leader i was really hungry

Cooper came back and then he asked me and i said uh no

so

no it's any more discussion you need to give me instructions

all of them are staying right yes uh i on all of them do i have to

abstain from

uh yes i abstain on that one bye all the rest

hi hi and ffa advisors and chat phones for 24

months to approve all of those volunteers

that are you know it

is it okay now they have to get back around just a second

the motion in a second do we have any discussion

okay all right i understand

i had sure i just gotta i mean it's not

i was gonna wait i just i got a question for you

this has to be here this is ffa related okay here's this i mean

what i mean this is this is this is uh

okay ffa has active so you can take the class

and you can be active because you're in the class

when you taught it did you have do they have to decide if they're going to be

active or non-active for us in the school to know

they were paperworks in but what i did and it was

they've changed the rules since i was there but i know all the rules

i know this as well what happened is they changed the rules so that once you

join a class you're an ffa period but you

could choose not to be an active because the thing that is the

issue is that some kids weren't maybe not active in the fall

but then all of a sudden they all of a sudden decided

this is pretty cool i wasn't doing that so they're going late

so you know so they weren't active for the fall

of course i guess it would be a little case where

where it was like well you have to sign up to trap kids now

and so that that's my problem right that's why i'm asking because i'm like

okay maybe i'm i'm just gonna throw it maybe i'm not gonna take football

because i don't know if it's gonna be a very good oh my gosh you made it to the

playoffs i want to join football yeah and i would like but it's a little bit

different because there's so all these different activities within

did your kids have to come to meetings um my kids

only the ones that were going to be active and go to events

and go to an event okay just trying to navigate this whole thing

only the one that they're the only the one that

and because they changed the rules because if they used to be it used to be

that yeah they they could they were all an egg and they did tap

to be in a play well now they're concurrently enrolled doing what makes

me nervous to be honest it's like i was one of those kids

i'm like oh i'm not doing a fire oh wait we get to go to state

buildings i'm joining the second semester i want to get this guy

i'm gonna go lie to billy that's that's my worry is i don't think it's

fair if you know you're not meetings you're not really engaging but then

all of a sudden you see old bozeman expos if i i'd be out of school for five days

if i'd be coming out first yeah and i i have to say

of preservation but it's like i think when you're

maybe it's changing a little bit as you go down the road but this year it's

you know you get something started it's that give them more opportunities to

join up you know i mean that's the way i look at it is all

of a sudden more white fire and then all of a sudden an extra

role yeah i could do all these things and maybe the kids just need to be

caught and that you're not going to jump in and out and decide well i'm active

now and then i'm not active so i don't have to do

training rules for you know that'd be that

well yeah if we could take another date that'd be

great i'm gonna go to oh i'm just my usual i should have probably put that

out there but there's a lot of things going on tonight i'm gonna go to the

grizzly in the night which i kind of regret because they're probably gonna

like so my boys are gonna watch and use to use kms for their first game

they're very good but i then i plan on going to hell counting since i'm over

there so i just can drive from your side with a

shared in when you're going all out me yeah

i'll likely call in in november so well the 18th i can't

that's our next monday but could you do that

tuesday i could do night yeah start night

so play well start start to my life that's i don't we got enough people on

our team and i don't know

the 19th the 19th

all right yeah i call it 19th it is one lineup yeah

okay adjourn