August 25th, 2026 Meeting

United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, in invisible, with liberty and justice for all.

But the clerk, please call the rule.

Councilperson, accent.

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Larson, here.

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Crowder.

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Okay.

So, welcome to the meeting in your packet.

We have the agenda for today's meeting.

I am going to recommend one change item.

Uh, 15 Committee Reports, Byron Police, item A, repealing chapter 15 dot 16 fire limit code slash set public hearing.

We'll move that to directly under public comment.

Other than that, I would entertain a motion to approve today's agenda.

I'll motion to approve.

A second.

In case we're motion made and 2nd it approves the agenda with one change.

Any discussion?

Okay, hearing down all those in favor.

Okay, also in your packet.

Are the minutes from the August 11th meeting?

I would entertain a motion to approve these minutes.

I'll make that motion.

I'm sorry.

Okay, most made seconded.

Any additions, deletions, corrections?

Hearing none, all those in favor?

Hi.

Hi.

Okay, and like always, Sonia wants me to address you from the room.

So we have Kurt Nelson, Perry Wolfe, James Walling, along with all the usual suspects.

So thank you guys for coming.

Um...

Okay, so now at this time at 8.32, I will close the city council meeting and I will open a public hearing for 2026, 2027 budgets.

So we have anybody a chance to comment or ask questions on our upcoming budget.

So the floor is yours if you have anything.

If not, we'll close it and move on.

One question for the PSC, but do you have a change of Nope, it's 140.

140.

Yep.

Any other comments?

Questions for the budget.

Okay, so hearing none.

This time at 833, we will close the public hearing for the upcoming fiscal year budgets and open the permissive medical levee public hearing.

Now, is your chance asking questions on that?

Okay, hearing no comment, or question, we will close a public hearing for the permissive medical levy, and open the street lighting improvement.

District number 18 public hearing, and I will just say there's no increase from the previous streetlight improvement district amount.

Okay, so hearing no comments, questions.

Uh, 834.

We will close the street lighting, improvement district, overcaring and open the street, maintenance district, public hearing.

And I will comment again on this one, just like street lights, there is no increase for the street maintenance.

Okay, so hearing no questions or comments, we will close the street maintenance, public hearing, and we will open the sewer base rate increase, and just 4 contacts.

There is a $one base rate increase, no percentage on this.

Okay, so hearing no comments or questions on the sewer base rate, increase.

We'll close that public hearing.

And at 835, we will reopen the city council meeting.

And that brings us to public comment.

So anything on or off the agenda, public comment.

Okay.

Hearing no public comment.

We are now going to go to the item under Fire and Police, repealing chapter 15 dot 16, fire limit code slash set public hearing.

Samantha, do you want to start?

Yep, Asher can.

It was recently brought to the city's attention that we have some antiquated ordinances that may place more stringent standards in our state building codes and international fire codes and are just simply not compliant with the current international and state standards, and it is my position on behalf of the city that we just basically need to bring everything up to modern day.

The city is not authorized to enforce building codes, when we get permits, we look at them for zoning purposes only, and not for building enforcement.

So it's my advice to the council to just repeal, um, Skobe City ordinances that are either more stringent then or non compliant with current state building codes and your current international fire code.

Okay.

Uh, fair, do you have any comments?

I guess, um...

I don't know...

I don't know how they read, and I don't know what those changes are, and that's why I wrote as I did. as you put in writing to me, be there, and see how we change 106 years of history type thing, I don't think that's the way that it should be done.

I think that a group should get together, review what those codes are, determine, whether they, you know, give us everything that we need type things, and, you know, just before, you know.

To me, right now, we're in an aggravated mode and, yeah, we're going to get rid of it, so let's just both get rid of it type thing.

And I'm not one of those type of people that we just, you know, do need your reaction.

I say we slowly look at it.

They'll determine that everything is there that we need to be there, you know, and then do it, not just...

There will be a public hearing hearing, which you're more than welcome to come to repeal the ordinance, specifically the one I'm talking about is 15.16, the cities fire limit code, but there will be a public hearing before the actual appeal takes place, and there'll be publication of that hearing.

So anyone in the community is welcome to come and voice their opinion during that.

And will there be one or two public hearings?

Two.

Okay.

But I'm saying, I mean, having a public hearing.

You know, when we sit there, we don't know the ARLs, and we don't know the international building code, whichever one of the uniform building code, whichever the state has adopted now.

And so I'm saying that it needs to be looked into and reviewed that, you know, we're going to have something that gives us...

I mean, we've been well served.

We've had few devastating fires that have wiped out multiple businesses on main street, within that, 6 or 8 block area, whatever it is, anything, and I think that it needs to be looked at before, you know, we just heard 3 or 4 hearings, and that's the way most of them are, you know, their foregone conclusions.

So why bother and go to a hearing type thing, and I don't know...

I mean, I disagree with that.

Anyone of the public is welcome to go, pull the administrative, you know, the rules, the MCA, the international fire code.

I think that there's proper oversight and steps that I don't think that we're rushing really to do anything, to be honest.

So, uh, within the building boats, the same fire standards are there, that we currently have, the...

Well, the one specifically that 15.16 is a little bit more stringent, and typically the MCA looks poorly upon cities trying to enforce more stringent codes than what is enforced by our state, and by the international fire code specifically.

So that one, that one is the most important one in my line that we need to address.

I guess, you know, I don't know.

And now on the show before with the state, they said, well, the building comes or such and such, I said, where are they?

They said they were in the library and wolf, and it's like, you know, okay.

I gotta drive the Wolf Point to get a hold of these. accessible online as well.

Yeah, and, you know, so if, apparently, there's reluctance to talking about it, we just want to do it.

So.

I'm going to back off and just, you know, do whatever you're going to do then.

If, you know, apparently, like I say, it's served as well.

We haven't had fires, you know, had what was in there, the precedents.

I gave you, uh, at least 10 cases, one that I overlooked was the more probably the most recent, and that's when Edgar redid the theater, the metal part of that, used to be Battleson's new car, cold storage, when Edgar added the projection booth, and so on.

He built it out of walks, the way the code, you know, said that it should be type thing.

That was one that I missed when I gave the 9 or 10 that I gave you that, you know, followed that code and have given us, you know, a great defensive area downtown type thing.

Also, to the point, it was made in a minute.

I tore down the building where the Beacon Park is, the Craig now bones, or I tore that down, the front store was here.

Our office was here, and the state building inspector, came through down, and made...

It only was partially covered with metal.

They made them take the metal off, put fire coated sheet rock on there, and then they could go ahead with their metal type thing.

You know, that was 25 feet to a defensible space for the 19 that I read was in here, you know, is in the current code that they're talking about, I don't know, I'd say, for a fact.

I don't know, 25 feet wasn't enough, unless they put fire over the sheep.

And it seemed crazy to me that I had just opened up 25 feet of defensible space between the frame buildings, but they required them to put, you know, the fire coated sheep rock, I guess, all sheep rock, all these fire covid.

But, uh, so it, you know, I just go from not only reading ordinances, the history of what I've gone through, the project of my own, uh, and, uh, I see.

Well, you're convinced that, you know, nobody else.

You've done it all.

It'll...

Well, that space that you're referring to, you have the 25 feet like you're saying, but I see how cars park there, had the state not made them do the sheet rock, whether it's double 58s and 10 or whatever, they made them do, you know, a car fire, not just a building, but a car fire could have started that building on fire, you know, the way they park, if the car would have started on fire.

So it's not just the distance between buildings, the way I'm looking at it.

But I also wanted, I think there's some interpretation here.

So I want to read this.

So 15.16.030 from and after the passage and approval of this chapter, no person, firm, or corporation shell within the fire limits as set forth in this chapter, erect or construct any building or outbuilding, other than one substantially fireproofed, and I highlighted that, other than one substantially fireproofed.

That is to say the exterior wall thereof shall be constructed of brick, stone, cement, or other non-combustible material.

You know, I don't know when sheet rock was invented.

And when they started using tin and all that stuff, that's not my area of expertise, but I feel like that right there, you could question, okay, well, just meet in the state code with the sheet rock and whatever the other materials are.

It's a wood frame, but that's it.

So, So that's how I have interpreted this, and I feel like that's how the state must interpret it as well.

I mean, don't we kinda have to leave it up to the state to enforce this code?

For building code?

Because we don't enforce building.

We don't have a building pro division in Kobe.

And we never have that I understood.

There are only there are only a few cities in the state to do.

Yeah, just your larger cities that incorporate and then become an independent entity.

But even they, if they decide to create a more stringent code, it has to be passed by the state to allow that.

So we don't get to upgrade without state approval.

And that's only...

They don't get to be a being with us approval.

No.

No.

And I think does state approval takes precedence over local, right?

It still has to get approved through the state.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, I've looked up, said, does the uniform building called Supersede City Ordinances?

No, the uniform building code does not automatically supersede city ordinances in Montana.

As in most states, local building codes are adopted from local codes like UBCs, or successor, international building code, but and be modified or supplemented by city ordinances, and state law generally creates only standards below the state's minimums.

With preemption, even with preemption, local governments, retain the right to adopt more stringent requirements, provided they do not conflict with state's minimums.

Can't conflict in what Brian just said, the state has to approve more stringent standards set by the city, and that has not been done.

Has it been requested?

I guess historically, I don't know when this was passed, you know, in 1919.

I don't know if that, but as of right now, it is more stringent and I'm like, well, this is written very flexible.

Like Morgan highlighted other materials and things like that, that it's written in a pretty flexible way.

But as far as I'm aware with our current state building standards and the adoption of the current international fire code, the city of Scobia has never gotten more approval to be more stringent than the state and international standards.

And the city is also not authorized to enforce building codes because we are not certified by the state program to do so.

So now, like, the one that's, we're talking about, that was sent to the state, the state looked at it and sent it back.

It is.

Yes.

It's been approved by the state.

There's somebody that goes through and does a plans review, and if it meets the state standards for in plans review, which has to allow for all the setbacks, all the grading, all the building components that are put into it, that's when plans review complete, and at that time they're issued a permit to build a building.

But what about construction material?

Yeah, it's all reviewed.

They have to do fire.

Any commercial building has to have a fire review, a setback review, all the rest of it.

And I guess that's, I'm interested in, I can't read the entire ARM, if you give me specifically, what it is that shows, what the fire standards are, then I can go and read and find out, you know, if...

Well, it's adopted the international fire code.

So just the current IFC is where I would look for that period.

Where?

The our state building standards have adopted the current international fire code, IFC, and that's where I would start reviewing because that's the specifics that have been incorporated into our state standards.

And I know from experience, when I was planning on building a building there about 10 years ago, um, I had talked with Yancey, best in directly, and running some initial measurements and numbers room.

If the building would have been any bigger, it would have needed a commercial sprinkler system.

Yeah.

So I was square footage.

I was, yeah, and I don't remember what it was and maybe it's changed since then, but I purposely was keeping it below that because that was another $100,000 expense.

So...

And I believe it has to be reviewed if you're remodeling that commercial building too.

Yes, it needs to be brought up to current code.

Anything over a 25% remodel has to be brought up to current code, which means everything.

ADA, fire, that's that's current. assessed value of the structure, right?

25% in that.

Yep.

Can I ask the question?

Yeah.

If the more stringent standards, theoretically in a local ordinance, have to be approved, to receive the teeth of law, by the state, in the 1st place, and they've never been applied for that in 106 years history, why are we trying to do anything about that at all?

In other words, where does it come up as a problem?

I just don't want our ordinances to be in conflict with state standards that I just want us to be distracted.

Yeah, and I don't, we're not authorized to enforce them anyway, so I want, you know, international fire code, state standards uniformly applied throughout the city. just makes sense to me.

Clarity.

Okay.

So, the hearing was today, uh, when I asked, are the buildings literally built within the commercial district, going to be a fire quarter material?

I mean, somebody here knows that answer that, yes, they will be the...

To build a new building, it would have to be, to the new standard.

Any new building or any major remodel has to meet the current fire code standards, building standards, the plumbing standards, the electrical and so on and so forth.

And we rely on the state to... to do our inspections.

I mean, because we don't, obviously, we don't have an inspection department, you know, so we have to rely on the states, commercial inspectors and permitting process to, I guess, follow what is law.

What is state law?

Yeah.

Yep.

If that's going to service, then fine.

My point and stuff that I've sent to you guys, I know to you, is that now, the ordinance is there, it hasn't been eliminated, and, you know, it has been followed, other than the mayor told me about, uh...

The knife hotel, what I call the...

Jensen, uh, added onto, that shouldn't have been done, but two wrongs will make it right.

I blow the stop sign, it doesn't make it right, or...

Right, it won't blow the stop sign, too.

Yeah, too.

Yeah.

I just want a safe place.

It's been a super safe place.

Uh, uh, when I put 60s, there's a picture of his aerial burning, which is next to Fossil's brick office where he moved his, you know, and very likely his would have been on fire, too, if he hadn't built out a block, uh, where he did, uh, and it was 63.

I guess I said early 60s, but I found a picture.

I also thinking about it too, Perry.

I mean, I, you know, I spent 20 years in fire service, whether it wasn't here, not all 20 was here, obviously, but 20 years total, and fire service, and, um, firefighting technologies have come a long way since 1919, you know, or even the 60s, you know, even the 60s, firefighting technologies have have come a long way from what they were.

I mean, even I would say Scoby's firefighting technologies have been greatly improved over the last 10, 15 years.

I mean, it was a pretty sad state of affairs when I came on the fire department and I saw what we were supposed to wear going into a structure fire.

It was pretty scary.

If you look at that picture, yeah, and see what those guys...

Those guys were probably wearing the same turnouts here when I came down.

I guarantee it was.

Yes, their winter clothes.

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, exactly.

Crazy that those guys made it through the years they did.

They were either a lot tougher or a lot dumber than we are.

I don't know which one it was.

Tougher for sure.

Yeah, yeah.

But I guess that's the way I look at it.

If we don't have any teeth to enforce the ordinance, then I don't know.

I would I feel safe enforcing what the state's ordinance are at fire code because, I mean, guys, it's time tested and approved that, you know, it's what keeps people safe.

And there's always, you know, situations and circumstances where you're like, yeah, that's not a good idea, but I feel in this situation, if we can't enforce the fire code that we have here and it does date back to 1919 without any changes, then I think we have to kind of fall back to the states fire codes at this point.

This is my own personal.

Like I said, this is the view of the whole council.

And it was, you know, somebody did the recalifications.

The old wave was that started there, and then this many feet, and thus, Ms. Benefit.

Somebody cleaned it up and said, blocked eight, nine, 10, 11, 12, 13 or whatever it was.

Somebody put some thought into that, at least they cleaned up that.

Yeah.

They decided they had everything built out of fire and resistant material was not a bad idea.

Yeah.

My question, I guess, is to Samantha, if we went forward and said to Silverstar Insurance that you're in violation of city fire code, is there actually anything we could do?

I don't think I'm authorized to enforce it until unless the city was certified to the state.

Exactly.

Right.

Yeah.

So I would just like to reject the fact that this is a rush judgment because it was 1st brought up last meeting, which was 2.5 weeks ago.

And we have to have a public hearing that's September 8th and a follow-up public hearing that would be September 22nd.

So that's almost a month out from the initial cause of the repeal of the ordinance.

So that gives, I believe, ample time and thinking about a previous, um, issue with the city where we were told we were giving too much time. to think about something.

So, It's a process that needs to take place.

And I am not a specialist, so I refer to the person who we have hired as the specialist to bring law to us.

So, um, And I'm willing to listen.

Um, that's what I'm here for.

So, I've got another month to think about things before I make my ruling on it.

So I just reject the premise that we're rushing to judgment here.

Oh, Samantha, put in. writing the...

Here's...

What, you said a little bit, but I'm not a shorthander, shorthand person and don't have my hearing aids in, so I don't know that I got her all, but, uh, put down what it is that you just stated that, you know, this is why the...

The...

Ordinance should be repealed by the thing.

Well, specifically, I believe to sit down and talk about it, but, you know, we're wasting time here.

Some group of three, four people could sit and answer questions, but, you know, Whatever Samantha has done sounds to me, from what Nikki says, is what we're gonna go forward with in a month.

Well, I think you're being presumptuous, Perry.

I really do.

We have a month to think about this, and just because Samantha's given us this information, doesn't mean we'll necessarily decide what Samantha tells us to do.

I think you're, I think you're being presumptuous about the whole thing.

Excuse me, but the mayor said, be here today, when we vote on doing away with 100, you know, he may then being flippant.

I don't know, but, I mean, it's here in writing with the mayor Goldman, so...

Well, I'm sorry.

And I can't argue that point.

But what I can tell you is that the mayor doesn't make the decisions.

I think you're aware of that, you sat on city council.

And did you send an email, a detailed email out to, I know, we got it, but did you send one to Perry?

Yes, uh-huh.

So if you were to send him a letter.

Would it basically be the same information?

Yeah, that I will present to the council that it would just be my advice to defer to the state board ordinances in the state, you know, adoption of the international fire code and to repeal our city ordinances that are more stringent and or conflict with the state and international fire standards.

And then it's up to the council, you know, to make a decision on that recommendation.

Okay, well, at this time, I would entertain a motion that we public hearing dates.

For September 8 and September 22nd.

So moved.

A second.

Okay, so we have a motion made and seconded, to set public hearing dates on September 8th and September 22nd, to hear comments for, and again, repealing and replacing chapter 15.16 of the Scobie Municipal code titled Fire Limits.

Any discussion?

Harry Nunn, all those in favor.

All right.

Okay, so motion carries.

So we will have 2 public hearings. at our next 2 meetings.

Okay.

We will keep moving on through our agenda here.

Sonya, was there any utility clerk report for this?

Okay.

Steve, Public Works.

Oh, we're still hauling the funny wood 3 times a week.

Um, and we got one more pothole patch to do over there on 1st Avenue before the winter comes, and then, uh, next week our cracks, you know, should be here, so we start sealing the cracks.

When they're up waiting today and doing alleys today, so...

Okay.

Anybody have any questions for public works?

Okay.

Well, Steve, let's move on to zoning.

I don't have any...

We have a zoning meeting coming up probably in September.

Or is it gonna be up?

I think we're going to wait until October because of deadline, those people were October. deadline was October, so...

Okay.

Okay, anybody have any questions for the zoning administrator?

Okay?

Well, Steve, you're also the acting pool manager.

So... pool is open.

Where was a party there last night?

Yeah, it looked a good turnout, so...

Splash pad's open still, so...

We still need to figure out how to... stop them from going into that ball.

Yeah, I'm gonna, once it, once it's turned off, we're gonna haul some dirts in there and real landscape that bottom.

Okay.

It doesn't help much too that right now the sprinklers are hitting it too.

Yeah.

I think it was super saturated from four and it's never really had a chance to dry out.

Yeah, the shoes.

So.

When is the last day for the pool?

Right.

Is it this Friday?

Is it Friday or Thursday?

I dont know.

I think it's Thursday.

Thursdays, whatever.

Yeah.

And then, uh, then the splash pad will be over there, and then, depending on weather, once we start doing cold at night, we showed off.

Okay.

And blowing that thing out is pretty gonna be pretty straightforward.

Yeah, just like, yeah.

Okay.

I hope you compressed to it, pushed the button a couple times.

Okay.

Do we do that, or do we have AJ?

AJ?

compressor, so AJ, I'll look up to it.

Okay.

So you do all the sprinklers and stuff?

Yeah. yeah.

Okay, anybody have anything?

Pool related questions, comments?

Um, I guess in regards to the pool, this kind of falls under public works and pool.

We're considering looking into fixing the crack in the deep end next summer, which would potentially mean shutting the pool down early.

So, You know, we paid the 10,000 bucks to have engineer, uh, interstate engineering, do a little pool report, and we found some issues, and we're just going to tackle one at a time instead of wait for a big failure.

We're just going to try to fix them.

Obviously, this heater thing caught us off guard, but now we should be good with keeping the water warm.

Yep.

You know, the other thing is the pump in there that runs so hot, we have to keep the fan on it.

You know, one.

So there's a there's a math issue somewhere in there that pump shouldn't run that hot.

Yeah, well, it should have been a bigger, bigger pump when the pool was built, but the power coming into the pool was not enough around a bigger pump.

Yeah.

So, but while the wires weren't big enough to run a bigger pump.

Would it require, like, a 3 phase pump, then?

I think once you're now 15, I think it was supposed to be a 20 or something like that.

And then, and then we, it was a, 2 years after it was built, we put that slow starter on there because otherwise you'd kick it on and it hit the power appliance so hard to blow the fuse on the bowl.

Yeah.

But that slow start on there.

That was after we burned up the phone.

Yeah.

And I, did we work with?

Were we working with Danny?

Wolf was that too?

Did he help us and then navigate that or who did that?

Did what?

Yeah, I figured out we should. wire.

Oh, me and his wire.

Okay.

Okay, I also have more to come with the pool.

Come up with a plan, hopefully, this winter, spring, and figure out.

We were secretly hoping that Coraland construction was going to get the hospital project because they're the ones that built the Glasgow pool.

So if they would have been up here working on the hospital, we could have had them because they also specialize in pools, but the biggest expense out of that list is that one in the bottom.

This is the direction in the bottom.

So we'll fix it drains, and we'll fix that, the scene, the crack or the expansion joint.

That, you just gotta get the stuff and pour in there.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay, no fighter chief today.

But I don't think there's much going on with the fire department.

I know they're planning their steak feed, Brian. the dates?

No.

It's in November just before or right at the beginning of Hunt season.

Okay.

I just know it's in November.

Okay.

They did get their bill too for the 6 o'clock whistle.

Yeah, it was only 2,500.

Came in right at 2500 bucks.

Only 1,500 more than we told them we wanted to pay.

Okay, public safety commission report, Kurt.

Oh, did you guys have a meeting last night?

No, it's going to be tonight.

Well, the agenda is the 24th.

Okay.

It is tonight.

I don't know what's going on.

Let's see.

We got our stuff this morning at 2 o'clock, kind of morning, too.

That's all.

The other thing is, again, that should be close to the minimum 48 hours before.

Yeah.

And for public places.

Mm hmm.

Yeah.

So I don't have any report other than what we've been trying to work on, and, I guess, the mayor, you attended the, uh, the county commissioners.

Yeah, me and Greg and Logan, right?

Yeah, and that took us as a command, that took us off guard, too.

Sure.

We had no idea it was coming. that the colony wanted to rescind the agreement completely.

Yeah, I felt, you know, 12 months wasn't enough time to let this thing gain any traction.

Logan fought that pretty aggressively and I agreed with Logan and said, you know, took the 1st 8 months just to figure out who's doing what and where and gathering information and fact finding and I think now there's a firmer footing with you guys than there was.

Yeah, I think we've got analog, you know, a direction we need to go and then communication, so I don't know what the communication breakdown was.

What was their reason for wanting to rescind it already?

Did they not give one?

Well, I didn't want to do it anymore.

I think it wasn't running, I think, like, they had thought it would.

It wasn't running smoothly, and I think there was still some questions over budgeting and who's in charge of expenses.

I had the impression it was money that was the biggest trouble.

Yeah, money was, because they were certainly getting more information than they were before.

I just made a question about that.

Oh, it's because they didn't have control of the money.

Is that what?

That's my gut sensation.

So I'm not sure that's entirely counts.

I just been strictly on my end just strictly on the city side, so I don't go to the county, just because of that.

Mm hmm.

Um...

So, I don't know what was that, and I, I'm not staying out on the challenge side of it.

I got pretty good, uh, contact with the sheriff and everything.

There is... draft amendment that was sent out, and outlined in red.

You don't have it because I didn't get it close, mine.

Yeah, I didn't get it till this morning, either.

One of the county commissioners would ask them why they might get the $10,000 for equipment, I think, is what it was for maintenance.

Yeah, so here, I was gonna bring that up.

So, and I kind of wanted this on the record, too.

So I visited with Tammy and I gave her the information, but so the city's gonna give the county slash the PSC 140,000 even.

So in the past, we paid for 2 deputies and then a $10,000 stipend for vehicle maintenance.

So, for the fiscal year 2024, 2025, we paid 102,637 in deputy wages plus 10,000 for vehicle maintenance for a total of 112,600.

Okay?

Then this last fiscal year, 25,26, we paid 98,778 in wages and 10,000 in vehicle maintenance for a total of 108,700.

Crowning.

So we're basically giving them an extra $30,000 because we're giving them a flat 140.

So I just want, in case you guys get questioned.

So I feel like we voted on that because we, that was part of this PSC, we wanted to go the PSC route.

We wanted to see it going.

So we're giving them more than we have the last 2 years.

Now, going back historically like when you were on the 1st time and when I was on in 15, 16, 17.

The city was paying upwards around 160, 180.

I think Sanya didn't one year didn't get close to 200,000.

And, of course, that started about an 18 month back and forth city in county.

And we ultimately started our own police department.

If you remember that, which.

I will never recommend we start our own police department.

However, the city did that because we weren't getting our, the city was getting nothing for the 180, 190,000 bucks for spending.

You don't know, dogs getting fine, you know, no city ordinances, nothing was getting enforced.

So that was what's knee jerked that whole thing.

So now we're kind of back.

We're giving them 140 and curt, I guess, for you to bring back to the PSC from my standpoint is, now that we got Mason back from the academy, there's three.

You got the sheriff, Cade and Mason.

You know, it'd be nice to see some of these city ordinances.

What specifically are you supposed to come out?

Any of them.

Would be nice.

Well, they're pretty broad.

I mean, yeah, well, so we, I mean, the ordinance could be...

My biggest complaint...

Dogs?

Yep, dogs and Sonia, I'm going to throw you under the bus here, you know, like we'll see something on Facebook.

And, you know, missing dog at dispatch, you know, and it's, it'd be easy for me to put a Facebook comment on there.

Oh, well, what's the what's the tag number?

We can, we can tell you whose dog it is at City Count.

Well, there's no take.

There's no dog take.

Well, they're not issuing, you know, give them give them 2 days to get a dog tag or find them per our ordinance.

So do little things like that.

I do know the, they have been very meticulous now with the radio.

I mean, actually seeing where they're at in town.

Sure.

Um, they've been talking to, and I'm listening to it, talking to kids on these e-bikes, and how's she gonna bring that up?

Yeah, yeah, that was the other thing.

I didn't write that down.

All cards.

Trump to those numeral ball cards, e-bikes, e-bikes on sidewalks.

Yeah, some some some kid is gonna get run over.

Yeah, I hate to say it.

It's just a matter of time if it continues throughout its goal.

They've actually had parents involved, but...

Okay, there's kids on any black feet.

So the parents are BM.

Thank you.

Call.

I do know that.

Um...

Kids gonna get run over. bit by a dog.

Yeah, we're gonna end up being the final response for that.

But not that I guess the eBay thing isn't, in my mind, a city ornaments, that's more of a traffic law, right?

It's a traffic law and it depends on the capability of the bike.

Yeah.

So the speed of the bike.

Most of them are supposed to be going down to not exceed.

I'm gonna throw a number out there, like, 25 miles an hour.

The classes go 20, 20, and 28.

Yeah.

Class one, class two, and class three, yeah.

And class two and three have a throttle, class one dozen.

And most of the folks who have ordinances or laws for against the use of e-bikes on trails, at least, all uniformly accept a class one bike, some exclude a class two, all exclude a class three.

It's technically, you know, from a legal standpoint, as best I can ascertain.

It's considered a motorcycle.

I was gonna say, it's an electric motorcycle.

It's a motorcycle.

Depending on the class of bike, it is.

Yeah.

If it's if it's one of these stand-up, um...

Most of your scooters.

Yeah, the electrical scooters, scooters.

And there's a couple adults that are... notorious with them around me, too.

So.

But getting, if there's any type of issue that needs to be addressed in a timely manner, we need a good mechanism from you guys to do it. to meet with you guys once a month and bring back something that happened like a month ago, I'll say.

Okay, how do we chase that one down?

Not to throw Sonya under the bus again, but...

Of course, son.

Your back's gonna be very nice, you know?

You know, folks will call Sonya and complain about some sort of initiative in the city, and she'll recommend strongly, and she should, that they file a complaint, very few people will file a complaint.

Yeah, that's a deep part of the program.

Yeah, it's easier to call City Hall or the mayor than it is dispatch.

It's dispatch and there is some complaint.

They are followed upon their complaints or follow them, but if nobody's willing to actually, if it isn't, in my, in my past life and this life, if it wasn't written down, it didn't happen.

So...

Well, these are...

It's hard to say, well, we saw this e-pike awards of bike.

You saw this, yeah, these kids are right around.

When did it happen?

Well, the other day.

Can Sonia make an official...

I guess, I don't know how you would put it.

I mean, on the record, request to dispatch on behalf of the city that these people are calling in.

Yeah, any type of complaint.

So she can call dispatch and say, I had a complaint, a customer, there's not really a customer.

Yeah, but I mean, like, you know, a citizen, utilities, utilities. citizen, yeah.

Anybody can call.

Anybody can call dispassion.

But it's not her, it's not her job or her job.

I understand that.

Yep, yep.

No, I don't.

But I had the same question.

Do you guys see salsa?

Say something.

That's the monster.

The city house.

Yeah, we have.

I will file a complaint on behalf of someone.

Yeah, specifically complain they need to do it themselves, but you see something on about wool culture.

Yeah.

I know Skip's called a couple in the park this summer.

Well, he was mowing, so...

So the complaint's a strong word.

It's not like you're filing charges.

You're just saying there's a dog running around.

It's making a written report.

Yeah, a written record of, okay, that's right.

And it's like, oh, we saw this kid on a bike or this kid's riding around on a bike.

It's just to initiate...

There's, like... 40, 50 different kids.

Recording in progress.

Judges of you, excuse me.

If there's a timely mechanism that we could work on, that would help, too.

Yeah, and if...

As things come to me, I'll just bring them to you, you know, and then you can either work them right away or get them on your agenda.

We can work them right away.

Yep.

But, uh, just see them.

Oh, yeah, last month we saw this or that.

Yeah.

It's hard to chase that dog.

I know, I'm so, like, I'm beating a dead horse here, Kurt, but have they, is there any movement on sticker any vehicles?

Not that I can see right now, other than they do get new light bars, and they're working on that.

So they had time to get new light bars installed, man.

But they didn't have time to get the hickering on the vehicle.

I will work on the stickers.

Yeah.

I mean, there's 2 people in town here that do it, so it's not like they don't have access to.

Yeah, I'll bring that up again.

Businesses that install.

I mean, we do it at Leamont and it literally takes a couple hours and they're done with it.

And they usually will work with us to where it's, they do it when the vehicle's not in use too.

Um Some less lethal stuff.

Oh, they're getting some tasers for less weightful, which is a good thing, and they're, they're all going to training for that.

I've been tased a couple times, so I know it works.

Yeah, it doesn't feel good.

Yeah, so...

Where?

Do you go up to get, like, pepper spray certified and taser certified?

Does someone come around or do we have to go to Helena?

Cave is actually going September to be certified with the Tasers down in Wolfbunk. to do that.

Um, It was brought up about the $2,500 bill for the siren.

We come to a consensus that, um... we didn't know who called on that.

I think the fire department paid for it.

Fire department called and the fire department is paying for it.

We have it in our budget, and it is being taken care of.

Okay.

Okay, because we also, we also said that out of the middle of it, though.

The mill level we can afford it, too.

We just decided that it was easier with less asshole, trying to figure out who to bank paperwork.

The fire department has agreed to write a check and take care of it.

And that's my offer for the money with the county, it's like...

Everybody's...

Oh, you paid for it, you paid for something.

And along with the 911 loneliness.

The county's got total control over that.

We have nothing to do with it, basically.

But it has its limitations as to how it can be spent.

They can't take it by a road grader with it.

I was going to say there's checks and balances on that money, right?

I mean...

Yeah, no matter what.

Well, the beach checks, somehow, is with a lot of that stuff.

Yeah.

Because that's tax revenue, tax revenue.

So it can only be fed on them because...

And we're probably...

The mill level, yeah.

Yeah, the middle of it, yeah.

The 911 is a different animal.

So, and you're probably getting less and less of that 911 because isn't that based on your household phone, that dollar, 911 tax you pay on your phone bill?

Is that what generates that?

Yeah, that's where originally was common problem, we'll see that.

Because more people are transitioning to no home phone and just keeping a...

But there is a portion, I believe, that comes from ourselves too.

Oh, okay.

Yeah, I think so.

I mean, because that was significant money coming in every year, you know, 100 and something.

It was being used was... questionable in some places.

But there's so many different emergency services that have access to it and need access to it. to upgrade.

Communications is a huge thing.

The issues.

And I think we've taken a huge fight on some of the issues.

But there are some... lingering issues that's going to be... working on it.

So, that's all I have, if anybody has anything else for me, questions, comments, concerns.

We appreciate the fact that you go to these meetings on a regular basis on our behalf.

Can't say that enough.

Yep.

It's my main country, yeah.

Okay.

Thanks, Kurt.

Thanks, Kurt.

Thank you, Kurt.

But you guys should have the...

I know I'll hear an email now this morning, so...

Yeah, it will, it'll get emailed to the council.

Sometime today.

Let me know if you guys have any changes that you guys want brought forward to it, the agenda.

It'll be on this agenda household.

Um, and then let me know.

Because we do have a meeting tonight.

And, uh, I would bring up the posting requirements, like Sonya said, that's, I think.

I got that written down.

Because I think these are pretty important meetings, and I'd hate for someone to, you know, plan on going and it's not posted, you know, the 48 hours and then the 3 locations.

And it's not an open office, I believe it's a courthouse.

It's at the corridors today.

Tonight.

Incorporate time.

Commissioner's room?

Commissioner?

Well, oh, it's in that 1st room, I think.

First one to the left. 1st one to the left.

Yeah, right when you come in the door.

We've had some people that wanted to attend and then they don't show up, so I'll take.

Yeah. with the communications issues and stuff like that.

And that's why I brought everybody in last January to talk about what they have with issues with the radio.

Yeah.

I think we're 90% there.

It's improving dramatically being a member on the department.

Yes, it has improved dramatic.

It's not all fixed.

It's not all fixed because everybody's got their own idea on what type of equipment they want to use in the field.

I do know that this year was excising a radio for the fire department. because it wasn't compatible with the trunking system, but it was compatible for the fire department.

Is this an issue in lots of places and just us?

Oh.

Well, in a lot of places, it's a unified system.

You know, but it's always an issue.

Because everybody has their own channels they want to run on. that, you know, you might have the, you know, emergency services channels, the scarlets and reds and purples and greens and colors of the rainbow, but your radio has to be able to run on all those channels too for, you know, mutual aid reasons.

So it's a, it's an issue.

It's an issue and what happens with this batch is the final stops with them.

Yeah.

I mean, everything gets fun.

They take all the complaints, they take all of the issues, they take all of the heat, they take, uh, So Joe Cole over here, didn't do a job.

She takes the heat over here.

Or she didn't have anything to do with it.

And if somebody's in crisis, guess what they call.

They call them, so they're dealing with so many space.

Yep.

So, I give a lot of help past those people, dispatch.

They don't, you know, they get criticized a lot, but they deal with a lot, too.

Yep.

Yep.

Okay, that's it for me.

I'll bring me what I have forward.

Okay.

Thanks.

Yeah, appreciate it.

Yeah.

You know, if we're spinning our wheel, just last and all.

Just gotta get those darn stickers on, Kurt.

Yeah.

Let's get those guys...

Yeah.

No, I can only...

I know.

I am safe for taser train, but...

Well, you know, maybe it would be good opportunity to show what they do, right?

No, that's not a good use of it.

No, that's just your opinion.

Yeah, it's just my opinion.

Thanks, group.

Okay, council comments.

So I guess I have one.

There's been a fair amount of feedback from the path, the walking path project.

That was we talked about last meeting.

Of course, it was also in the paper.

However, it generated probably as much confusion as it did. uh, people being excited for it.

So the plan that's in the paper, specifically the phase 2 part is utilizing the railroad, the BNSF right away where the tracks are.

I will say we probably have a less than one% chance that that will actually happen.

So the path specifically on the phase 2 will be, uh, along football field road or carrier's road.

Yeah.

And then across this, then you cross Main Street, and then you go on the north side of the ball fields, basically till you hit golf course road.

So there was some confusion because some landowners said, well, no one asked, told us this was going on our property, and I said, well, it's, it's on the railroad tracks, not necessarily your property, but they said, well, north of the tracks and south of the ball fields, and that runs right through. private property so.

Was the map or any of the information incorrect?

I don't know.

I mean, worse...

I think it was interpretation.

I think it was interpretation, but the other thing, too, that I think made the article was we're on day one of a 10 year plan.

You know, I don't think I would post anything because I don't want to confuse people because right now we're focused on phase one, which is gonna be, again, today's day one for the next 2 years, and that's going to get us from the school to the football field and working with the school on that.

So...

We don't have budget for engineering fees, and then they're going to go out for funding.

Too much information.

It was probably too much information.

But again, I mean...

I'm Mr. I'm like.

But see, Bill, Bill had called me and I, I, he interviewed me for, I don't know, 15 minutes or so and.

So anyway, um, Of course, what I'm what I'm visualizing and visiting with him about, you know, he doesn't quite have the landscape of Scobi that I do.

It just confusion.

I mean, there's no crisis that nothing's on fire that we have to put out.

And just have a couple unexpected phone calls.

But other than that, that's, again, people seem to be excited for that.

I really hope it happens.

Again, I think it was Columbus.

They just finished their 5th phase of a 10 year 5 phase plan and the community absolutely loves it.

Love to be here in 10 years, you know, finishing up on a...

I think it would definitely get used.

Oh for sure.

Oh, yeah.

Without a doubt.

And that's where we could put the e-bike people.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Class ones, right?

Yeah, more money bikes today than I have in the last 2 years of research.

Trails do not allow motorized vehicles.

I had someone ask me about this project as well, wondering why we're wasting money on trails when we're not putting money into streets and sidewalks that could be upgraded.

Yeah.

So different different pots of money and Right.

So, but yeah, I get it.

Everybody thinks...

Their way, I guess.

All the grants have different stipulations.

Yeah, yeah. grant for a trail system isn't going to repave your streets.

And that's why we're slow playing this because we're trying to maximize the grants.

And that's why we're hiring an engineering service to help us do this.

They're going to do all the heavy lifting.

We're just going to help design it.

Well, that got me thinking about when the government actually, and maybe it's been forever.

I don't know.

Um, when the government actually instituted that cities and towns had to have a capital improvement plan, um, as part of their want or wish list.

And I know several times, Morgan, that you have put out or Sonya has on the city Facebook page, asking people to come and give input into the capital improvement plan.

And we don't have anybody here.

So, I mean, you know, uh, If it was a long distance chicken run we were putting in, we'd have people here, so...

Yeah.

And we are fortunate, you know, we had 3 or four, all they say, local moms come and say, let's do a splash pad.

How can we help?

It wasn't a demand.

It wasn't this.

It's like, how can we help you do this?

And like, that is, like, that's when we get excited about things instead of, you know, hate mail and, you know, spinballs, like, why haven't you done this yet?

you know, it was and now look, we have a splash pad.

We've raised significant amounts of funds for it, and it's been used, you know, practically all summer.

And it's going to be used for another month.

So.

You know, fortunate to have local donations and people write grants.

That's that's when this job is actually fun.

Uh, I guess the only council comments I have is the, I saw the Facebook Warriors were out in full, full force with the sidewalk program again here last week, but I just, you know, I guess I would just stress that, I mean, we're putting these, these, uh, plans into place to try to help, right?

And I guess, you know, You can't go backwards in time.

You can't say, oh, well, you replaced your sidewalk brand new 10 years ago.

We're going to give you $2,500.

It's moving forward and it's, you know.

I mean, all of these that we're trying to use to better the, you know, the community, I guess, the city is Gobi.

It takes time to implement them.

And not only that is there's got to be a day one.

I mean, you can't go backwards in time, you know?

So, and I guess I feel that if you're, you know, you're wanting to replace all of your sidewalks and the city has no programs for it, then go replace your sidewalks. has nothing to do with the city at that point.

Now there's a plan in place that we will help, but before there wasn't.

So.

That's life, you know.

I don't know where the idea stemmed from, but, you know, whoever dreamt it up.

Planted that seed, it was a good idea.

And where, again, I've said this a 100 times, instead of just a no, let's see if we can find a path to a yes.

And I felt like that's currently what we're doing with this, is it's taken us, I feel like we've been talking about this since October, October, November, we've been trying to dream up how we can make this work, carved out $10,000 from streets and alleys.

You know, and then, but I guess I want to stress again that rather than, you know, go on Facebook bashing the city, come talk to us.

You know, come to the meetings.

If there's issues you see, come talk to us about it, you know, I mean, that's not the place.

It is the place for a lot of people, but it doesn't get anything.

It's not constructive, I guess, is what I'm saying.

We don't know there's an issue until we hear it from the people.

Yeah, and we're still, that item is on the agenda here.

Just a little bit down.

Yep.

You know, in a few minutes, 'cause there's some verbiage that we're starting to question that we need to clarify.

We're going to bring that up at the council, so.

Yeah.

Any other council comments?

I think just to follow up on what's said and what you said that where it becomes fun, a fun part of the job.

We all know that this is a thankless position that we're in.

And quite honestly, with the 2 instances that were Seth brought up in this fire code issue.

I started to wonder, what am I doing?

You know, it isn't fun sitting here in this chair when you have the complaints that come in.

But I didn't sign up for it to just take all the good, you know.

So I have always come at this job with the thought that I will do the best that I can do for greater Scobi.

I'm Alderman Ward one.

That doesn't mean that I don't care about what happens in War 2.

So, um, Yeah, I I'm here until my term is up and I'll reconsider at that time, but when things like this happen, it No, it's not fun.

And like Seth said, we can't know what we don't know.

So finding out stuff on Facebook is not fun.

Every meeting that I cover. has somebody say at some point during the meeting.

By the way, public, a comment on Facebook is not a complaint to the city.

Like, you need to call us if you have a whole unique patch.

You need to hear it from you.

I'm not gonna read the comments on Facebook.

It's everywhere. it's all the time.

Yeah.

And everybody that reads the comments, to try and be responsible, feels like crap about it.

No matter what the issue is.

Hey, any other council comments?

Okay, moving on.

Next item, we have resolution 1153.

So I would entertain a motion that we approved resolution 1153.

I'll make a motion to approve resolution 1153.

Oh, so I can do it.

Okay, so we have motion made and seconded to approve resolution number 1153, a resolution canceling resolution 1125 and assessing the cost of the street lighting district number 18 for the fiscal year ending June 30th, 2027.

Is there any discussion?

Okay, Hearing none, all those in favor?

I...

Stations, carries.

Okay, next item, I would entertain a motion that we approve resolution number 1154.

So move.

Second.

All right. motion made and 2nded to approved resolution number 1154.

A resolution levying, an assessment to defray the cost and expense of the citywide street maintenance district number 97 dash one for the fiscal year ending June 30th, 2027.

Do I have any discussion?

Okay, hearing none.

All those in favor.

All right.

Okay, motion carries.

Okay, so now, under streets and alleys here, we got the 50-50 sidewalk project, and in that, you'll see handicap ramp.

Clarification.

Um...

So, Steve, you wanna...

So the question, it says on there that handicap brands is that we're supposed to be included when you do it.

Do your sidewalk.

Well, there's a guy who wants to get his sidewalk down, but he doesn't want him to handicap, right?

So do we just decline his permit and say, unless you do the handicap wrap, you don't do it?

Or does the city do match the 2500 and pay extra to get a handicap wrap and put it in there?

Basically is what it is.

I mean, it's...

Because you got to put, you got to turn the curve out, so it adds about $2,000 for the project to put a new curve in.

And there's the handicap.

So there's not currently a handicap ramp there?

Not there currently, no.

And what did the state or federal standards require?

Yeah, at...

At any intersection, yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

So we're gonna run into this at every corner lot. basically.

Yeah.

So when I, you know, I'm in favor of the city, covering that, um, I feel like it's not going to put us too far back for this year, uh, you know, a couple 1000 bucks, if 2 people do it, maybe $4000, but we would we would have to work that in if we continue this.

Uh, sidewalk 50-50 sidewalk program next year, we'd have to anticipate that a little bit more.

And funds in addition to the 10,000?

Yep, and funds in addition.

Yep.

Okay.

I believe, kind of, it's our specific responsibility, I guess, that, you know, if a handicap ramp is required at a corner lot, and we're changing the corner lot that the city probably should foot the bill on the handicap ramp.

I mean, that's my opinion, but...

It's improving access for our citizens.

It is.

It doesn't really do much for the homeowner, right?

No, it does it does a lot for the people of the city of Scobi that need handicap rams, so...

And then in our defense of our Facebook situation regarding a previous sidewalk from earlier this summer.

Had they seen that on the application, they would have, they would have had to have complied with that as well and and they did this just a new sidewalk.

So, Is there money in the budget, I guess, because didn't our budgets finalized for the ten?

They haven't included it yet.

Oh, so we could add...

Yeah, we'd have to carve out a little bit more out of streets.

Slash general thunder.

So when we talk about this, are we talking about putting handicapped grams where they weren't before?

Correct.

All handicapped, correct?

Not anybody who has one now, does it?

If there's one already there and it meets the state requirement. you know, unless it's all cracked up.

We would do the sidewalk to the curve.

That's the biggest thing is you got to tear them to the curb to put the handicap.

And most of these handicap ramps in town now are fairly new.

I mean, they're not all busted out and wrecked.

I mean, the existing ones, it would, you know, it would probably be a no issue.

Yeah.

Like I look at the one at the Lutheran Church on that Northwest interception of the of the church.

It's kind of a, I would say it's like a handyman one.

It's not near as detailed as like the safer us to school ones.

I just wanted clarity as to what we plan to pay for in the long run.

Yeah, I would say just the ones that, you know, obviously on a corner lot where there isn't an existing and it's required, then we would cover the cost of the handicap room.

Yep.

Great.

Need those handicap cramps for those e-bikes.

Those e-bikes aren't supposed to be on side.

Yeah, sign bikes.

Yeah.

Like the e-bikes and the scooters are.

Yeah, they sure.

Those scooters go 20 miles an hour or 18, 19?

I'm scared just watching them go by. without a helmet in one hand.

Usually ride double.

We're looking at long-term traumatic brain injury.

That will all be responsible.

Look at me, Greg.

That's all you got to say to him is look at me.

So the 2500, that would still be limited to the 10 is just if state and federal requirements require additional handicapped and the city would contribute to that.

That's where that would go.

That's where that would go.

Yeah, that makes sense.

Yep, that's how I would.

Yeah.

Okay.

That's how I would recommendly go forward with this.

Okay.

You know, I guess it was probably an oversight as we were, you know, modeling through, putting this whole sidewalk project together, but, um, Again, I think it's going to be a big improvement for, oh, for both that property owner and for the city, especially some of these locations that are putting in these permits, you know, they're kind of high traffic areas anyway.

I don't know if that Jared is still here, but this was something he was asking us for.

Well, remove all the rocks off the gravel streets.

But then handicap access on the sidewalks.

And this one does lead to commercial area.

Residential.

Yeah, yeah. commercials.

Yeah, north and west here.

Do we have to limit how much the city can contribute to handicap for each project or how should I?

What do you think, Sonia?

Well, I would say the same, the price of taking that curb and replacing it with a sloped curb should be about the same.

So I will meet with the contractor.

The guy rogue on his. deal, and I'll touch base with him just to make you get the exact number for what?

Okay.

And it costs to get that curve out.

Yeah, up to a certain...

And then maybe we'll have an idea how I can change it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah, Sonya, I think that's a good idea.

Where it was.

Was his estimate in here?

Oh, it wasn't.

Yeah, the estimate, but that's what album.

That's what the term.

Yeah.

But it was 8700, I believe. right?

Yeah.

Nice.

And I talked to Gordy before that, and he told me it was around 11, so I'm assuming the curve must be be 2 weeks..

But I'll meet him over there and get a precise.

I mean, the hand jab wrap is a candy jab wrap regardless.

I mean, he's gonna redo the slab, so you just have to dig that out the slope, basically.

The biggest thing is tearing the curve out, putting a new curve on it.

There must be requirements for us..

I'm sure those guys are in the slope.

They gotta be...

There's a slope, and then I think they have to have the... the braille pad or whatever.

I call it on it now, too.

Because I know when they did that safe routes to school, when they did a handicap ramp online, that's why they had to tear out an extra like 3 squares because it had to be that slope.

Yeah.

You have to have that ripple effect so you know to put the brakes on your e-bike.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Or that's when you lose control.

Yeah So what?

Are we going to kind of just pause this for now and put, we'll vote in, um, an amended sidewalk project, just to clarify that?

Yeah, I think we should add, I guess that language to the state and federal requirements section, you know, this causes additional expense, the city shall pay up to X amount, you know, to get it compliant in that regard is probably where I would put it unless you guys want to go somewhere else.

No, I I'll move to table pending new verbiage.

I'll suck in that.

So if you want to meet with them, Steven, and we have an idea, and we talked to Sonia up to XML.

Okay, yeah.

For the contribution to the change job.

And then besides that, well, we did give one put in that, for one sidewalk, this one.

Oh, good.

Okay.

So that's a total of 2 now?

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, it's pretty fast, too.

No weeks on this one.

Oh, yes.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yep.

Because Steve, you're just approving of it, right?

Yeah.

Okay, so upcoming agenda item.

We will work on the sidewalk program.

People have more questions on sidewalks and chickens than they do the budget.

Welcome to local government.

Okay, Samantha, we're gonna keep it with you here.

Sadie sponsorship for the infrastructure project for the hospital, a week, gaming.

Sonia is starting to get concerned about a couple.

And I don't think it's Dan Delaney.

I don't think Steve's timetable, he said on us is really still, it seems like it's more USDA delay than our bomb council.

Because I think Dan has been on the ball, you know, as far as I think there's just been a delay maybe in the construction, anticipated construction dates, and that's causing delay and necessary funding.

I think at this point, we just do a budget amendment when we know.

I think so what's going on.

Yeah.

But then...

We seem more concerned about it than USDA does at this point.

Yeah, I know that's exactly.

Yeah.

They're a tough cookie.

They're not they're not fun to deal with when it comes to grants and loans.

They're kind of work at their own. now.

Yeah.

Well, you know, we thought we had the code cracked when we were going to just have the hospital is going to have its own billing code.

And then they didn't really want us to do that.

Now we're looking at doing an SID, but then, and they'd have their own SID, hospital, district, hospital zones, hospital, whatever.

But then we don't see any of that for a year.

So then who's paying our bill?

Are we going to just build a hospital for interest accrued?

Infirm funding then.

Yeah.

You know, we agreed to do this sponsorship on behalf of the hospital, but it's really turning into quite the quagmire.

Yeah.

Yeah, because the SID wouldn't be assessed for a whole year until you would see the money, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

And again, I...

Yeah.

And then that's taking money out of our pockets to maintain our systems.

Initially, yeah.

So that's really what I couldn't put in budget.

Yeah, I can see why it's on it.

But yeah, I don't really think the timetable USD, USD placed on us today, that's kind of gone up.

Yeah, because 3 months ago it was get this to us in a week and did.

Yeah.

And it's one of them hurry up and wait.

So we were trying to bring somebody from the hospital back to answer some questions.

Well, Cody's, I think Sonia and Cody and...

I don't think it's any fault to the hospital either.

I think everybody's in the loop, and I think there's equal confusion to be spread around, so...

But again, you know, the city, generously, is doing this because we didn't have to.

It's out of the kind of sort of hard.

Yeah, so we're so kind.

But it is turning into quite the deal and like, You know, it's going to be additional oversight for Steve, additional recording for Sonya, which you guys already voted it in, but their pay raises were reflected.

They don't think by enough.

I think they're too much.

So they compromise.

Well, you can't face the streets.

But regardless, I mean, we're really going out of our way to see this hospital project go smooth for Scobi.

And now the potential exists for us to slow up our budget for the coming year.

Yeah, well, like Sonya said, we're past that.

Now it's just time to go.

But again, with the bud, like I made the kind of joke comment earlier.

This fiscal year is going to be the year full of public hearings because you got a 2 public hearings for budget amendment.

You know, any zoning, all that is going to be ordinance, 2 more public hearings.

So As the, I guess maybe I'm out of the loop, it has the bid deadline come and gone for the project for the contractors.

Yeah, I think it's gone out.

Has it been award?

I think they selected.

I think they selected.

I, that's the last I heard was...

Right?

So John Boxer, someone out of Wyoming has the bid.

That was when I when I said earlier.

And they were within the...

It was below. was actually lower than the original threshold.

But they always start below.

Yeah, yeah.

Change orders.

And then all the change orders come in.

A lot of exploratory digging.

Better not be there.

You didn't say it in one place.

They don't need to do exploratory digging.

So, okay.

Well, anyway, we're just, I think we're now all police it in the same chapter in the same book on this hospital project.

So it's every meeting, we're going to keep talking about it.

Okay, so...

Uh, next item I would entertain a motion that we approve, resolution, 1155.

Not all at once.

I'll make a motion to include resolution 1155.

How much is the rate increase?

Hundred dollar?

$one.

To the base rate?

Flat rate?

They have baits on the base rate only.

Oh, second generation.

Okay, so motion made and 2nded.

To approve resolution number 1155, a resolution to change and increase certain rates, fees and charges for the sewer utility service, and hold a required public hearing in regard to the same.

Is there any discussion?

Like we just said, we're not doing a percentage.

We're just doing a flat increase to the base rate only, nothing to the usage.

Okay, hearing no questions or discussion, all those in favor.

All right.

Okay, motion carries.

Steve, we got a water tank, maintenance project list.

Yeah, I went through that list and just eliminated the stuff.

I don't think we've done the new or whatever.

These are the 3 items we can probably do.

Okay, so $20,000 and $20,290 worth.

Okay, well, I would entertain a motion that we approve.

This estimate from PTTG.

Maintenance to have our water tank.

It drains clean, yeah.

So rude.

Second.

It's a motion made seconded.

Um, question, when when do they, when would they plan on doing this?

I don't know.

Once I sign it and get over them all.

Because it's going to have to be either before DCs or after he combines that field.

Because that's where the water greens do.

Yeah.

And then, and they, they wouldn't do it in the winter.

I would assume not because we have been not utilizing the water tower in the winter.

Yeah.

So I guess we kind of have a window that hopefully they can work around.

And how long will it take them one day, one week?

I would assume, I would assume they'd be done in a day, maybe two, I mean, see, and then once it's drain, I'm sure it's just kind of a take a shot back in there and clean it up.

Sure, and spray it downwardly, turn it down.

And I hope they give us a heads up so we don't have the tank plumb full and they show up and now we got to drain it.

They usually do. because that's 400,000 gallons water in the neighbors.

Field.

Okay, any question, any other questions or discussion?

Gary none, all those in favor?

Okay. carries.

Okay, next item, we have resolution number 1156.

I would entertain motion to approve.

So many resolutions here, you can't find them.

No, I know.

You had a plan over.

I did, and then I messed them all up on my own.

Okay, do I have emotion?

I'll make a motion to approve 1156.

No second, but...

Okay, so motion made and seconded to approve resolution number 1156, and that is a resolution approving ballot language on the issue of whether to allow at-large elections.

Christie just wanted the wording in writing.

Okay. add that to the ballot.

Yep.

Yep.

So again, we're not getting rid of wards.

Orgs will still be used for other things, but not necessarily for voting for a council person, assuming this passes when it gets on the ballot.

So council people would be elected by it at large.

Yep.

Not ward specifically.

Yeah, because basically I'm east and west.

Okay.

The words would remain, but it would just be at large election.

Okay, any...

We have Walsh main set, any other discussion or questions?

Hearing none, all those in favor?

Hi.

Hi.

Okay.

All right.

So, next, we got resolution 1150, creation and purpose of the large taxpayer reserve fund, number 2388.

I would entertain a motion to approve revolution number 1150.

So...

Okay.

The motion made, and 2nd into approved resolution number 1150, the creation and purpose of the large taxpayer reserve fund.

Now, this was new.

The state passed this, and we will have to pay.

Hold on now.

We're going to have to pay into this on the back.

$759.

So did Sonya budget for that?

Those raises I talked about with Steve and Sonya.

They're gone, come on.

They're gone.

They're short by $759.

Divided by two.

So state has to do this or excuse me, the city has to do this.

The county has to do this.

So, um, you can see the whiz bang calculation on the back.

Not gonna go through that, but it is open to the public.

So, any additional questions or discussion.

Did you check the math on that?

Yeah, no idea.

It checks out.

Yeah, yeah.

Okay.

Good.

I was good at math.

I could do that.

I could do the mad minute 2nd grade faster than anybody else.

That's a lie.

Okay, all those in favor?

Hi.

Okay, motion carries.

Two more, Seth.

You got it in you?

I don't know.

Hurry, speed it.

Okay.

So resolution number 1151, a resolution adopting a final budget for the city of Scobie for fiscal year 2627.

I would entertain a motion that we approve this resolution.

I'll make a motion approving 1151 for the adoption of the budget for 2026.

2027.

Hey, do I have a second?

I'll second it.

Okay, so, emotion made me second into approved resolution number 1151.

Resolution adopting a final budget for the city of Scobie for fiscal year, 2026 through 2027.

And also you'll see the value of mil for the city is $1,242.94.

I am not going to read the rest, but it's all there.

For your reading pleasure and also open to the public.

Any questions?

Discussion.

We'll make sure we have enough funds in that sidewalk project.

Okay, we'll have to have that.

Okay.

Okay, hearing no...

Oh parent, no. curiosity.

Is that up or down?

The 1242 94?

It's up.

Oh, Elizabeth.

It was like 800 and something last year, but it's, but there was more mills.

So it's less mills at a higher amount and it equals about the same amount of what we got.

It was, do you remember 800 and something, Sonya, dude?

Yes.

It was 899, 49 was the amount for the mill.

And we were able to levy 353 mils.

This year.

It's worth $1,242.94, but we're able to levy 264 mils.

About the same amount of money.

Okay, any other questions or discussion?

Hearing none.

All those in favor?

All right.

Okay, Seth, I want to hear you active on this one.

Okay, resolution number 1152, permissive medical levy.

Uh, so, at this time, I'd entertain a motion to approve resolution number 1152.

I'll make a motion to approve 1152.

No second.

Okay, so we have a motion made and seconded to approved resolution number 152.

A resolution approiting attacks on the outside, the tax levy calculation limitations for premium contributions to group health insurance under the provision of Senate bill number 478 and 491.

And then again, on the backside, you will see the map.

They provide a formula.

We throw in some numbers.

Okay.

At this time, is there any discussion or any questions?

And this is basically for the city's contribution for the insurance premium.

Well, this is basically the taxpayers contribution to cover city employees, city employees.

Yep.

It's just the amount.

Through our, the general fund.

Yeah.

Yep, that's excluded.

Yep.

Okay, any other questions or discussion?

Hearing none, all of those in favor?

All right.

All right.

All right. passes.

And unfortunately, we're out of resolution.

For this meeting.

Well, come up with some.

Case of upcoming or excuse me, public comment.

Anything on off the agenda?

Any final public comment?

How was your time to shine?

Great hearing and seeing none. agenda items.

A couple things we discussed earlier.

Plus we got some division development regulations.

Um, and then the 1st public hearing.

So, at this time, I would entertain a motion to approve the consent items as presented.

Give me a commotion to serve the consent items.

One second.

Eight, motion make, the second, to prove the consent items.

Is there any discussion, any questions?

You will see the setup project that Steve had approved in there?

as well as the usual information.

Okay, hearing none, all those in favor?

Hi.

Okay, so this time.

I would entertain a motion that we adjourn until September 8 at 8.30.

So moved.

All right, hear something, the, you're just approved, 3, 5, one, Roger.

Two No, one.

One in this.

Yeah, one is... questioned right now.

I mean, and then Steve...

I put stuff yesterday and I was like, is it?

Meaningless to go through this, you know, they're all really all filled up type thing.

There's only been 3 submitted, one fully approved, the other one.

Yeah, and then one was a den aisle. so.

This is just... in front of the neighbors that abrupts me, and it fills with water and freezes with ice, and there's, you know, Steve?

Yeah, South London, I mean...