September 21st, 2026 Meeting

All the commissioners are here and Christie, and we'll go ahead and call a meeting order.

Make a motion to accept the journal.

There you go.

I'd 2nd thought.

Okay, I'm gonna...

That's not already on the agenda.

If you could give this snike, he wasn't here when I write it to you guys.

We're concerning the lease with, like, farmer, I mean, broccoli space.

That was just Logan's response to the police, though.

I think I read it in his email.

Oh, okay.

But I can read it again.

Lane's gonna...

Or need in Glasgow...

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah it is.

I'll make a motion to approve journal out.

All paper?

All right.

Thank you.

I'm not winking.

So that's why I didn't even know you were on that.

Really?

Yeah.

Should see my funky boxes.

You have funky glasses?

The little $99 pair that you can get.

Because you don't wear them very often, right?

Well, there are rules.

Well, what happened to the bank?

Well, then.

They're not on that block.

No, is it the block that they're talking about?

Oh, is it?

There are some rules that go back to like 1919 or 1920 that anything built on Main Street has the masonry constructed for fire.

So the fire can just go building, the building, the building, the building.

But I was just looking at the bank while they're in, that's all going to be brick, isn't it?

Well, when they're down or something, yeah, I would assume.

I thought, well, can't they just switch it and put a berk outside on it?

Or metal?

Or metal, you know?

Right, the whole rest of it.

So I don't know if there's something that makes that different or not.

But I do know that down here there was going to be no brakes, no blocks, no nothing.

And so they had to have a meeting to stretch the rules for them, so they, you'll learn.

Because this was already here.

So they would fix, you don't have to do it here.

And then when they added on, they had to make that the fire proof fireball.

It's gonna be one of them.

Like when they built a new Rexall drive, that was all blocked.

Oh, well, they the wood structures feel burned.

I mean, oh, it will, but it gives you a time factor.

Oh, okay, before it carries over to the next valley.

Okay.

I should check on now.

I guess I forgot about.

It's from the, um, Richard Pipeline thing.

What's another little map?

And there's 3 different routes.

Green, red, yellow.

We're still green.

Yeah, I just, I actually have...

Yeah, so it's no cylinders.

Is it?

Oh, okay.

But I thought it was kind of funny.

The colors of the stop sign, right, green and yellow?

The different routes.

And we did have a bircher guy in here the other day.

Not Bridger, but diamond ones.

Remember, I said we had them when they were, they never came back.

Well, one finally showed up last week again.

Did you want to look at it?

I mean, it's the same thing.

Oh, would have been colder very well. and he asked me if I would get his own culture.

We bought somebody's wee roll and put the commissioners down there.

I couldn't hear him, so we didn't.

I was going to call him back and ask him what that was all about.

But what they're doing is...

Check it on some land that's titled.

And checking on title?

Yeah, they're there, I think they're getting all the circus homers, not they need.

Is that what it is?

So that they can get all the right of ways.

What?

I thought you were going to be gone today for the meeting, but since you're here, would you mind sending out the Zoom?

Yeah, no, that's my...

Yeah, I wanted to move it off of this day.

And so the day that they wanted to move it too, I was going.

Okay, that's what it was.

That's what it was.

Okay, yeah, if you don't if you wouldn't mind doing that.

Not at all.

I appreciate it.

Yep, okay.

We'll get that going.

All right, thanks.

Did you learn loss last week?

Too much, yeah.

All that back to back weeks is like, where you're going today for lunch?

I thought that's where you were last week.

Oh my god, okay.

I got...

I got...

I would love to just be in.

I don't mind traveling for conferences, but it is it is a whole extra stress.

And I've never had a job where I could just go.

Well, I did one time, I have a job where I could go, and I'd have to worry about like whatever was happening at work was being taken care of.

Totally.

So that was really fun.

But when you go, when you're doing both, get you behind, yeah.

It's, yeah, it's like constant ketchup.

But last week was really good information.

I have something good. some good stuff.

And then this week, that was tobacco and so it was, like tobacco education and all this stuff for that.

This week is communicable disease outbreaks.

So I'm I'm excited about that.

I'm interested in those things and we've had, it's been funny, 2 Mondays in a row.

I've had reportable communicable diseases that require investigations.

Oh.

So I, last week I was pulled over on the side of the road doing it, but I thought I was to hear this one because it's much easier to do for my desk, but so which is rare.

We hardly ever have those.

So it's like, I get the Eagles because it only happens when we're, like, so it's okay, makes our system work.

Yeah, it's way too dark.

Oh, I just thought you meant it looked like you cut it.

Oh, I cut it.

Oh, okay.

I cut it and got it done. and I look in the mirror.

I'm like, but it'll, like...

Yeah, thanks.

It sounds because it's okay.

I mean, I noticed it was darker, but I noticed more that it was short.

Yeah, I dropped it.

Shut it off.

All right.

It looks good.

Hey, have a good day, guys.

Thank you.

See you.

They've traveled.

Thanks.

Huh.

Friday?

What was that?

Friday, I think.

I never even heard anything.

I did either.

I didn't, I forgot about it, and then, I came into Proco-op and they said, did you go?

And they're taught kind of about...

Boostry.

Because he hasn't touched this stuff forever.

I don't know, I guess.

Yeah, after that, I don't know.

And it was, it wasn't during work time.

Well, that I couldn't tell you for sure, but that was one topic they kind of brought up.

But it was a booge free retirement.

I'm doing it work.

Captain Michael.

Well, quit working.

That's what hopefully it will be.

Someday.

Yeah.

Okay, so we really don't have anything till 9:30.

Yeah, looks like, yeah.

Okay.

All right.

Yes.

Yeah.

Sorry.

Particular MOU is about adding ¢10 per transaction.

Yeah.

And after reviewing the full agreement, and this, and getting into context, I would make a motion to approve and allow signature of the contract amendment.

Oh, secondary.

All favor?

All right.

But I think, like, we've got, I think we've got a doctor's sign.

Do you have that?

I do.

Okay, I believe.

So I don't know if you actually need to sign up.

I'll defer to Christie for that.

Okay.

All right.

So wait on this.

Yeah, well, it's a DocuSign that you're going to have to do.

We're going to have to go.

You don't need to sign that.

I don't know if you have it.

I do.

Do you want me to send it to you?

Well, if you have me, you might as well do it.

Okay.

If you guys have it, you're commissioner minutes or emails.

Now you're gonna get an election number before?

What's up?

The ¢10 of transaction is over above the $100, so I guess.

It's not too bad then.

I don't know how many transactions you do in a year, but.

I looked it up.

I think it was like 2700, over 2700 last year.

That'll be a little bit of money, not a lot of it.

Okay, inside.

Okay.

They should probably be sending it to Julie for hers then, right?

I would think, because I don't for sure.

Yeah, sign on it.

That's what I was wondering.

It's got you to sign on it too.

But it was never sent to me, so I think it was sent to a commissioner's email.

So I think they, like, they get one signature and then they send it to you.

Yeah, you don't need to look for it in my email.

When you get one and if all four signatures are on, can you make me a copy of it, please?

Yes, absolutely.

For the minutes?

How come else is on episodes?

Lori Bakri?

Lori Makri.

Yeah.

She was the head of the?

Yeah.

A lot of vehicle.

Because Jeremy Kraft has already signed it.

Okay.

So it's just you guys and then myself.

Okay.

All right.

I'll report my email.

Okay.

Hopefully they do it that way.

That's the way it normally works, but yeah, but I never received it.

They just asked me why Gary hadn't signed it.

That's what came back.

It's like, that's where I prompted this.

Yeah, they were sending a two-year-old.

They were sending it to his personal email to begin with.

Oh.

We don't want to do that?

No, I told him not to.

Could?

Thank you.

You're welcome.

Okay, so this one is?

I know I told him that.

So then this is the Department of Revenue Space Office Space Lease.

Oh, that was...

I prefer condensed version.

Basically, we give them a place to habitat when they were here once a week and week, they all love bills for it.

And they can leave whenever they want.

Yeah.

And they can terminate the least whenever they choose.

Even though there's no money or space either.

Because we happen to have so many conditions.

I remember the one condition was a was it a quiet workspace?

There was something.

And we had to laugh because Shawna, Sonderberg was the apartment where I knew that at the time, and we were laughing, like, shop, and you got to be quiet.

I would make a motion to approve signature of the Department of Revenue pro bono office loose.

Free.

Okay, on favor?

Aye.

So it's for 5 years, right?

Well, it's good to know they plan on coming for 5 years.

When they couldn't come in at all.

They talk about that at our convention, about getting those into every time, because there's some... still don't have them.

They don't want to set a broom closet, but work.

Yeah, right.

Yeah, I know what they.

Well, you're never up to her.

I know that.

I've seen smoke over there at one time.

I know, I'm like, oh, that's not...

He said, we don't care.

We'll take them whether they pay for anything.

They have never paid for anything.

Yeah.

Thank you.

So I reached out to them and told them about our courthouse and the history and all the cool stuff in here and how, you know, we're broke as broke could be.

And I actually got an email back and Brennan, De Boer, or De Boer, is a project specialist there.

And, um, he knows of our courthouse and how cool it is.

And, um, believes that would be quite competitive for the grants.

But he just wants to meet with us and see.

So, it would be cool to have, you know, like I told them, like it'd be nice to weatherize the building and, you know, I told them about our, what we've already got studied.

So, maybe we could set something up for the next meeting.

You guys open to that?

What's the company?

It's called High Plains Architects.

They're out of billings.

So.

It'd be really cool to have Somebody just take on it, yeah.

Too bad we couldn't reach out to these, um, HGTV shows.

You know, come in and redo stuff and we'll reset it up and do all.

Well, heck maybe we can.

Maybe we should, yeah. be fun.

The only trouble was some of it, because we did have a quote once to do all the hardwood floors, but we had to be closed for X on a days, and the commissioners at the time wouldn't approve us to be closed those extra 2 days for the Florida peers.

Plus, what do you do with everything?

That's my other question.

Where do you put everything?

stage it, you know, they might do like, I don't know, so they just, kind of crazy because you look at it and you're like, um...

That would be nice.

Um, um, I don't think our taxpayers would try if we had this major restoration for a week. to be down.

I think they will.

You know, better than other dogs.

Oh, you'd always get somebody that would complain about it.

I think because of the election, if I remember right, we actually did 2nd.

So our dates are the 4th and the 5th.

No, the 2nd in the floor.

You still have your 1st Monday.

Because I thought we gave you that day for election day.

No, I was kidding.

Oh, I wrote it down in my book.

I wanted to give it to you.

No, that's payday and everything.

No, no, no.

Okay, no.

All right.

Yeah.

So...

We've had several of those weeks.

We met every Monday from the last month.

Just about, you know, whether, I mean, we're, it was a conflict, and we just...

Because I always remember...

He'd forget.

No, he'd show up.

Who's welcome?

My son.

Oh, okay.

But it does so much easier if you want to just stay here, but...

When are you taking off?

Hopefully, I'm leaving here on like the 11th or 12.

Oh.

And my daughter-in-law's, well, depending on how to play North.

She's gonna be in Boise already on the 13th, so I'm trying to get into Boise on the 13th.

Some guy in a hoodie.

Oh, I don't know.

From groceries.

Oh, sad.

Dark hair?

Couldn't say he had a hoodie on him.

It was dim favor sport.

That's...

The 19th.

Okay.

I didn't get invited to go to Costa Rica, so that's in November.

Scott's like, well, we're going close to November.

Where's my invite?

Just show up?

Yeah.

Just happened to be there.

That would be hilarious.

Okay.

Oh, maybe.

I'd have to try it.

Yeah.

That would be hilarious.

I don't know, but we have the other one.

Sorry, she's schedule.

It's this one.

I usually take my time.

Yeah.

Yeah, I'll get set up here feels a second.

Sometimes they don't need to take that.

All right, well, we're gonna get started this morning.

I'm thinking about you joining.

This is our my weekly Bridge of Pipeline expansion project, uh, cooperator, uh, Again, just chance to get bare body up, you know, where we're at, talk about any kind of new things coming our way, and uh, few more concerns you may have.

Um, thank you, uh, for doing great with your chapters one, 2, and Appendix A comments.

I really appreciate everybody's involvement.

You know, sometimes I've gotten emails saying, hey, look at, no issues, no comments.

That's perfectly fine.

Just really appreciate you taking the time to examine these documents in these pieces.

As you'll see, once we kind of in the future, at some point, get the full document to look at.

Have you looked at these small chunks, uh, will really help because it will get pretty large by the end.

So, uh, getting familiar with it now, just seeing uh, where it's going is a good thing to do.

That being said, we have chapters 6 and 7 coming this week.

Should be, you shouldn't have a Michael's business tomorrow afternoon, sometimes the contractor gives out a good ways, and I don't give it to you till the following morning.

These are really administrative chapters.

We're kind of finishing up that until we get to the actual analysis, which is chapter three.

So chapter 6 is consultation coordination.

It's a brief summary of all the outreach, uh, we have done in a big project with things like, uh, maybe, uh, like fish and wildlife or your your state shipos, things like that that have a curve.

So it's more of a summary of how that happened.

And chapter 7 is list of preparers.

So it's kind of a, just these and the specialists developed in the project.

A lot of times a R end.

I'm a subcontractor sometimes will be, you know, not have a list of all of our specialists or they want to book their qualifications in.

So getting those swords out, getting those streamline, or I'll streamline that, uh, correct.

There's a lot of that exercise.

So these next 2 coming or shouldn't be that involved.

Um, not saying that you don't look at them, just, uh, the spare warning that if you look at it's not, well, this is really not much of anything.

Well, yeah, it's getting happening stuff out of the way right now.

But for too long, hopefully by mid-October, we will be looking at pieces of chapter 3, that one is going to be broken down by resource.

So, you know, air quality, uh, cultural resources, wildlife, fisheries, those will all be, um, much slower chunks, uh, but very much focused on a particular resource.

So chapter 3 review will go over a longer period of time, but coming out into pieces.

So, hopefully easier for review and, um, well, our own staff, we pre-review it because maybe, um, they're, they're especially kind of blows into different resources.

So it gives them a chance to look in the document.

And, um, not over well because, you know, they have, we all have a kind of day jobs that we're doing too, and other things we need to get done.

So, Pendolows.

Uh, I'm sure they'll buy a big look at the document and work through it.

So, um, again, really appreciate you going through.

We'll say when you see the EIS, you see kind of, especially those resources, the EIS, you know, will talk about, again, acts, resulting from the project.

But, you know, for BLM, really well, we have control over what, we are, um, oh, it doesn't drop off, another back.

We really brought these, you know, what we want, uh, is responsible for what we can control is what's happening on those public lands.

We talk about that impact to the resources, I don't know who that broad scale, but when it comes to changes we can make, those are very specific to uh, lands we manage.

But this gives a great opportunity for you to see like, okay, what does the company have planned in my neck of the woods and what they're doing here?

That allows you the opportunity to, uh, meet with them if, uh, the, you know, Malcolm and Jordan say, hey, see, you want to do this?

I would like to see it this way.

But for us, yes, we'll stress that a lot of times I've noticed when I talk about these projects.

I talk about the big terms, and I think from VLM, you know, we got 647 mile pipeline.

Prove this, I'm, I'm, I guess, control responsible for that 60 miles that are on DL 114 service lanes.

So just thinking about that when you're looking at the document, just kind of, how big this thing is and, you know, for real much perspective, what we are, what we control.

So game chapter 6 and 7 will be out. likely tomorrow afternoon.

If not, if they get to be really late on the Tuesday.

Um, it might be uh, Wednesday morning till you get it, there'll be another uh, 4 day review period.

So, quick turnaround, but again, these are really short chapters and we're really breaking it down.

And small pieces to account for these, uh, uh, these, uh, shorter uh, duration of review.

In the future.

We will get that entire document.

You can see the big picture, and that will be, of course, a longer review, but to look at that, and to examine those, what the document says.

Uh, although I, um, you got a good understanding, we've really fixed a lot of the, the small things that are, that could be wrong with it.

Um, any cushions on these, uh, these sections coming out and, you know, what we're looking for, was that?

Okay, uh, MOUs?

Uh, there's a few of them that are ready to go as a state director, uh, the state director, of course, for uh, Billman, Montana, Dakodas, is the uh, authorized officer for the project.

So even though it goes into Wyoming because the Montana coaches has the bigger chunk of it, they're the lead for BLM on this one.

And so they're at his desk.

And of course, right now we have an acting state director, but he has been extended.

So, uh, we speak here for another month.

I was asked by his administrative assistant just that we had a few coming in, I expect, one more from the park service this week.

Um, then I'll get those off to him, forcing, I know.

I think, uh, there may be a, a few entities, uh, that are still waiting to get their back, Western counties, one of them.

Uh, I don't know, is it going from Macon County on?

So I'm yet to get theirs back.

And I think it was fine, I was just waiting to go to the, um, waiting for the big county commissioner meeting to get it, uh, signed off on.

So, uh, otherwise, uh, we'll be getting those out most of all of you, I think, already have your uh, MOU in place for cooperating agency status.

So that's good.

We got those generally taken care of.

So that's just a free front down.

Again, we're making progress on the EIS, contractors, uh, getting the route.

And, uh, we should be seeing, uh, we'll be seeing chapter 6 to 7 this week and chapter 3, what I'm thinking DCL will start coming in uh, mid-October.

Then, as soon as we get all splurred away, we'll, uh, you know, give those to you.

Is there, uh, any questions or any concerns with how many, um, processes going so far?

Well, here we go, Siri.

Uh, please, uh, feel free to reach out to me, uh, with anything, uh, you need like a point in contact with uh, uh, uh, expansion, LLC, company, uh, or you help me connect if you have any concerns, uh, or just want to talk to them, uh, uh, uh, so take that as much as I can.

And, um, really hope you, have a good weekend and hope you have a good rest of your week.

We've been getting rain, which I think is a great thing here and doing, but hopefully you're getting enough too, wherever you are at.

Well, thank you all.

Have a great week.

Thanks, Bill.

Yes, 5 is on next meeting.

Thank you.

Actually, hand out my notes, though.

Um, but do not be there.

So, yes, I've seen October 5th.

Thank you all.

Thank you.

Bye.

So it looks like we're going to be on commissioner meetings.

Um, says there every other week.

So the 5th and the 19th when you're off.

If you wouldn't mind putting us on the agendas for those.

And just 15 minutes should be plenty, if that's okay, please. 10 o'clock all the time.

Yep.

Okay.

Anything new about me?

No, they're in the process of, um, renewing or just reviewing the whole contract, so you look at each individual piece and I actually didn't look at the ones this last week, but we'll get a chance again to review the whole manual.

Are they still aiming for using our county?

Yep, yep.

Yep.

The claims are so... explanatory.

I'd like to make a motion to pay them.

Oh, it's second.

Oh, there?

Aye, aye.

No more can come in, kinder.

Why?

I don't know, because there's one in there where there's some in out all of our, we pay them to send all of our voting passes out.

Well, it was an egregious.

It wasn't another 0 behind it.

That's just automatic.

So way back in the day, we used to send all them out, and that meant stamping them all with a little postage thing and doing all that, and now this company will do it for you.

So, it's like it works for me.

Our time is more important than so.

So, and they do most of the states, I'll go out through them, so.

Hey, how are you?

Good, how are you doing?

Pretty good.

Do you know who else will be coming?

I don't know if John Bach might.

He had asked me about it.

Oh, okay, but I guess I don't know if you got an invite to it or not.

Okay.

I did get a response, so I'm not quite sure if he's going to.

Do you guys want me to wait, or did you want me to go ahead and get started?

Just go.

I think you can get started.

Okay, perfect.

So, first, I'll introduce myself.

I'm paid voucher.

I am the planning program specialist for CDBG, so I will be the contact for your grant.

Or if you have any questions or need anything, you can get a hold of me or Tara.

Tara might jump off a little bit later.

I guess she might have had a meeting conflict, so she might jump on.

But, um, I just wanted to reach out and say congratulations for getting the grant for 35,000 for a CIP.

Have you guys gone through the process?

For with a grant before, or would you like me to go through the process?

How would you like to proceed?

Oh.

We're saying, sorry, Paige, I was trying to get us online, but no.

But it was so spread out that it's hard to get solid, the same one.

Oh, no, you're fine.

Christie, I guess.

Is, do you want to answer that question as far as, what was?

Did you want me to go through the whole process or would you?

The process of what to do with the grab money or what?

What process?

Um, and when the, um, dates, all of that stuff.

I just wasn't sure if you've done this before, if you felt comfortable with it.

Oh, I'm sorry.

Was somebody going to say something?

Yep, I think Interstate's gonna handle it.

But yeah, so maybe just a high overview.

Yeah, absolutely.

It will go over what we'll need in order to get the contract actually executed.

So we'll need some documents as well as knowing who the signers will be for the contract.

So they're just to go over like a high level of what the documents are that we will need.

It's for confirm commitment of funds, a budget, if it has changed, the implementation schedule, if it has changed.

Um, I will also add 2 documents um, to that email, you know, which is a direct deposit form where the funds will be kind of deposited when you ask for those reimbursements, um, and a signature certification, and that's, um, that's who we'll be signing as well.

Our MedCom coverage, liability coverage, affidavit of publication, copy of RFP, scoring selection, and then formal selection, meeting minutes, professional service contract and task order.

It's applicable.

But, um, if that's just a very high level and I'm sure that, um, uh, interstate will take care of most of that for you guys.

To go for the reimbursements, you can get it either 50% when it's 50% completed.

You can ask for a reimbursement there or you can get it all in one month sum after it's completely finished.

No matter if you get it 50% or 100% complete, you will need either a draft document or the final deliverable before we were able to pay out that reimbursement request.

Um, let me see what else?

If you feel like you are going to be going over the time and it's not being completed in the time that the contract is, we do want to see 60 days prior to the end of the contract to ask for an extension.

I think that was pretty much it.

Did you guys have any questions on that very high level overview of that?

And they're fantastic.

We got you.

Did you have any questions or anything, Cassandra?

You clue me on the email?

I'll Kimmature.

I think you have the vet as original content.

But I do.

Are you?

You could be...

Oh, both of you?

Okay.

Okay, perfect.

Just want to make a note so I don't forget.

Okay.

And then, Tara, did I miss anything?

I know.

I just want to make sure.

Um, about, oh, yeah, you did say about the contract extension.

Did you talk about the signers?

Oh, okay.

And then we will be, um, I'll be setting out an email just to verify what's sick, who this items will be on the email as well.

Once we get all of that documentation, we will be able to execute the contract, but we will be able to do that until then.

So just be where it's better to get it in then wait, if possible.

So.

Does anybody have any questions?

I know that was really quick and...

Okay, less, kind of.

We're excited for you guys.

We're excited too.

We've needed this document for a long time.

Be able to prioritize in the future, for sure.

But if you guys have any questions or anything, feel free to get a hold of myself or Tara and we'd be happy to help you or get you in touch with whoever needs to be in touch with.

So great.

But yeah, I, um, just give me a few minutes and I'll send that email over to you so that we can get collecting all of those documents.

And that's pretty much it.

All right.

Thank you.

All right.

Happy Monday.

Bye.

Have a great day.

Bye.

Bye.

Well, that was easy.

She talks way too fast.

Yeah, but I'm so glad that Interstate's gonna handle all that.

Yeah.

I mean, I'm sure they'll...

Well, but people and you, we're gonna have to do that.

I'm like, well, Chris, you'll get that one.

Chris, you'll get that.

Worker's comp liability, we'll have to do...

Okay, sweetheart.

Oh, thank you.

That was Chris on there.

I make 2 coffees for you.

Okay.

Thank you.

Yep You don't use the right signature on your dog, so.

Oh, close to how they actually suck.

Gary Linder's not pretty damn good.

Oh, goodness.

When I 1st did DocuSign, I signed it the right way, you know, and then they kept it.

So I wonder if that's still in there.

Oh, I don't know.

Amongst the Kissan.

I don't know.

You know, I did it with the credit.

So when it comes down hard like that.

And after all that wind, my gutters got clogged up from the tree right next there.

It runs down the side of the building and soaks through that ground and gets in through the concrete.

So thankfully, it's one of those floating floors.

It needs to be replaced in the not too distant future anyway.

But I can just pull up every one of them and dry them off and put a box van on there.

That time I had to shop back at all.

That was the most water that's ever got in there.

My garage is partially the same way, but it's underneath part of it's underneath the ground.

So in the spring, when it melts, a lot of it runs into the garage because of that, too.

Yeah.

Apparently they didn't do waterproof or paddles or whatever they put around there.

That wasn't done back in the 70s.

Either that or you take and you plastic it and put some rock on, you know, grab a little rock on top of it so if water gets there, it has a place to run.

Right. run away from instead of going in.

Yeah.

Yep.

So, hopefully I can get over to Williston and pick some of that up here before the ground freezes.

I forget about it.

They'll look rains a bunch.

You don't have trouble in the spring.

No, haven't had any trouble in spring.

I suppose, you know, nothing really gets back.

I need to also clean my gutters out so that.

That doesn't happen.

Not me.

I solve that problem.

You put those covers on.

I need to get some of those, I think. covers this just they're a simple cover.

I mean, popular guys came up and They click right in there and they let the rain through, but none of the branches.

Signs of gunners do you got?

I'm not even sure Yeah, because mom had those.

I've got an example of mine.

Maybe I should bring a talent, but you look at that, what I got on mine. pretty simple.

Yeah, they're slick.

Because mom had covers, but they're the ones that have the holes in them.

So the branches, the trees, and reeds that still get caught in there and then create more trouble, so she took them all back off.

But what you're talking about.

You just put the brush in.

Yeah.

That works great.

Yeah.

And then you pull the... can if you want to, but nothing gets past those bristles.

Yeah.

Oh, I didn't know if you had a cap you could take off.

No, it'd be just like a chimney brush.

It sits right in there.

They go in your gutters.

And you can lift them out, clean if you want to, but it keeps them clean from...

I get those damn, because they say I'm...

The needles?

The needles.

I got it.

On a metal roof like my house house, they say not to put those covers on because the water's coming off pretty fast anyway, and it just, it'll go right across the covers and right off onto the ground.

Makes sense.

So we let them go this way.

Yep.

Got to love having property.

Yeah.

I like the.

Maybe people get to finish some things up..

Yeah, mine too.

It's amazing, yeah.

I mean, I went to Glasgow with Nope, I wrote. my God, I couldn't believe the difference.

I thought they were getting all the range down there, but...

Someone was just telling me, a friend of mine was doing some work for a guy, farms up by main prize, outside up.

Estevan there. 30 inches of rain at his farm this year. 30 inches of rain.

Well, God, you've seen all the clouds going on.

Oh, my God.

That was the only place to go.

Yeah, I'm not sure.

In winter, you know, besides.

That's that's I haven't looked, but that has to legitimately be at rainforest levels of precipitation.

Yeah.

They eat a lot of storms that we don't get here.

Yeah.

They come up from Bismarck area, I think.

It's good though, either.

They are a little ways off.

A little ways.

Yeah, yeah.

Okay, so a couple of things, um, just to, to make sure procedurally it's all handled properly, since, um, Michael, it's a, it's related to a business interest of yours, from what I found, um, first, we would articulate that that what this agenda item is about is a potential conflict of interest with your private business and then, uh, as a commissioner.

Um, and then because of that potential conflict, um, What, what would be the best practice would be for you guys to designate somebody else to be the presiding officer for this singular agenda item so that you aren't the one directing the conversation around it?

So if one of you 2 want to be that presiding officer, then we would continue that way.

And that would just be, if we had an audience, you'd be directing the conversation, calling for the vote, and tallying the vote and all that.

Yeah.

Okay.

Okay, I guess admit as vice.

Okay.

Since then, I was I was just thinking about it.

Really, it breaks, it breaks down into 2 options to make sure this is handled correctly.

One is sort of a carve out geographic necessity.

There's nobody else around that can do this.

Um, or if there is somebody that's close enough that it could be, um, the work could be done, if they're 10% or more, then um, your business, then that geographic necessity carve out um, is available.

But I don't think we have that car about, correct me if I'm wrong.

But if you and Bernie's are performing the same kind of work, we lose that carve out because we actually have some another entity that's providing those services right within our community.

And if that's accurate, if you guys are providing the same sorts of work, then we can't use that geographic necessity carve out.

So is that, is it accurate that that's, like you guys are doing the same thing, generally?

To a point, yes.

Okay.

It's just, um, it's always kind of been split up where he does certain things and I do certain things and it just kind of, you can't do it all is my point.

So, some of it is space restrictions, you know, for those things that Bernie's won't do, and then you will do, then that geographic necessity, um, exception would be available.

Um, the next question would then become, is there anyone within a reasonable travel distance of Scobie that does provide those things you're talking about?

And if they do, are they 10% or more in price?

I mean, that would be It's not defined.

So, you know, is plenty wood too far is we'll point too far.

Um, and I don't know the answer to those questions.

That's the that's the simplest, that's the easiest, if it can be articulated that no, uh, 42 miles to plenty one or whatever it is, is too far.

And it's too far for reasons, A, and C.

Then you just need it on the record.

There needs to be that finding that's made at a commissioner meeting and articulate it as public record. for why and how you're taking advantage of that geographic necessity exception.

Otherwise, the only other option is putting it out for bid, which would just be a bit to you and a bit to Bernie's, basically.

They're electrical issues that you just can't, you can't bid those because you don't know what you're going to run into for time constraints.

And one option in that regard would be, you know, here's the hourly rate.

And, and, you know, this is an estimate, not a bid kind of a thing.

That would be how that would then have to be handled if that's the route the county goes.

But to go along with this, something, frankly, that was not on my radar, that this is a pretty well documented issue across the state, and I guess not surprisingly, once you get to thinking about it, particularly with our rural communities, that motivated community members willing to occupy government positions are also the motivated community members who often start their own businesses.

So there are, as you saw in that big document, attorney general opinions that have been right on point with it.

And it can definitely become an issue if somebody wanted to make it an issue.

I know with the insurance side of it, when you turn claim into makele, they adjust the estimate anyway to make sure that everything is accounted for.

So you have, you know, there are people above us that check, do the checks and balances to make sure that everything that is on an estimate is, is a common for.

Yep.

Yep.

Yep.

So there is a 3rd party doing that already.

Yep.

And the other element of it becomes, you know, before that, here's all this business.

That becomes the other, which, of course, like you mentioned, there's certain things that only, even though you're both body shops, you're doing AV and C and they're doing EF and G. And I guess that was my question.

Like, you can do oil changes.

No.

Oh, you don't do oil changes or I thought you said you did.

Sorry.

Um, but, like, are you doing anything that Carquest or, um, Double G, Proco-op could do?

Or that they offer as a service, rather.

Yeah, my services are quite different from theirs.

So I don't do tires and things like that.

If we're making this.

So as far as making sure it's just addressed so that it can never become an issue.

Right.

I think, I think the step today then maybe would be to, um, identify, you know, at what point in the future, you're going to have, say, the information that justifies the geographic necessity exception. you know, that, which would entail, um, you know, off off the off the cuff, an articulation of the services that you offer that Bernie's does not. followed by an analysis of, or rather an articulation of why, um, the place in Wolf Point is too far away, the place in Scobi's too far away.

The place in Glas goes too far away.

I mean, really, if you just, wolf point plenty would be the next closest, it would be that here is the estimated additional cost to the county in bringing this that far away when we have somewhere right here.

I think what just needs to be happening is that we've looked at this.

This is how and why and be as clear as possible as to how we've decided, you know, and make it so that it's the other 2 commissioners' decision to send it to Mike and not Mike's.

You know, like, we'd need him as a service.

We can't lose that, but we want to be transparent about it.

Um, an articulation of those services that make your shop unique, um, from Bernie's for the work that's coming in.

And, uh, second, a good estimate of if we start bringing, you know, if we have to load a vehicle onto a gooseneck and bring it over to Plentywood, this is the projected added cost of doing that.

Um... gonna do that.

That's on you guys.

All right.

Are you going to go to Bernie's?

Crispy.

My job.

We've been having so much...

We ain't got time to haul up nowhere.

I think we can make a good case for that.

But the other part is maybe we do need an emergency situation policy, but I think that if what Mike's saying is like, well, I do this and he does that, that kind of delineates it, but if we have it documented, I think we're going to make sure Mike's safe in all of this. as well.

So what about the other option?

I guess I don't know what Mike's been doing.

But if somebody comes and says, okay, we need this done, if we know ahead of time before he does it in terms of a claim, then you guys can talk about it and decide that he's the best option.

And so you've got those issues that get thrown in with it.

I think the, I think, that's a lot of it anyway.

Like if somebody calls you and says, you know, this is broken down, then you'd go, okay, then you have to call the other 2 or whatever.

Yeah, that's easy.

And then, of course, if ever there's something that a vote is on that you abstain from that.

Sure.

And abstain from the discussion too, unless there's like a question asked.

Um, it just avoids even the appearance of impropriety that you're steering the conversation to give yourself more business or something, you know.

If there's a claim period that involves your claims, um, it would just be, I vote in favor of this, except I abstain as to this claim.

Yep.

And that's fair enough too.

Yep.

And then I think you're, I think both, you know, of course, my my advice is given from the county's perspective, the county would be covered at that and just, uh, consequently, um, I think you end up with similar, um, coverage advantages.

Yeah.

Yeah, I want to get in trouble, that's for sure.

Well, they kind of did that with Donny Hammer's business.

Oh, with the city or what?

Well, they made a 2nd person sign off on all the stuff that he was doing because he was fixing the fire trucks, then they'd give it to Neil Holman or whoever to sign off to make sure all that stuff was actually being done.

Not just being said it was being done, kind of a thing.

Well, yeah, it might just be a good overall county policy, but I really want to make sure Mike's protected in this one, so.

So there is actually a relatively clear answer.

Okay.

Yeah, and if the feasibility and just get in it therefore, you know, an opinion or an estimate is...

I'd just like to have it.

Which is, which, you know, might be, it might be prohibitive out of the gate that, um, just looking at this being 40 plus miles away and the logistics of getting it there precludes it from being an option immediately. without being specifically knowing what they would charge, which you'd have to think they're pretty equal.

Yep, just that additional cost and time of getting it over there when things need to be done. might be prohibitive enough that you don't need to talk to them to say, well, what would you charge for this?

funny was you got?

Holton's or Rick's or whatever it goes by now.

Yeah, you would know more than that.

I think that's the only outfit I'm aware of, right?

Yeah.

I think that's just autos.

Yeah.

Well, we've got a lot more problems than just auto.

Maybe he's very shocked.

He's very selective on what he does and does not do.

Well, that's the long and short of it.

If you guys run into any questions, you know how to get me.

We'll write something up and get it to you and then make it official.

Um, And when when then when you do provide that work in the future, um, just abstaining from that vote and the discussion, doing just like we did here, if there's some larger discussion about, you know, some particularly large bit of work or something, um, saying, well, we're going to have a different presiding officer for this agenda item.

And then the final one to keep in mind if ever there was a huge project that exceeded $80,000, um, then that necessarily goes to bidding.

So is there any way that throughout the year all of this worked?

Just going to test it.

From what I was reading, you know, if it was, you know, here's this.

Here's this piece of equipment that needs an overhaul.

Well, this engine work was one invoice.

This body work was on invoice.

Um, this, this repainting was one invoice and it goes over 80, That, if you were doing it all or one person was doing it all, that's trying to get around the 80,000.

That doesn't seem to me the spirit of what it's all about.

Same if it was, yeah, same vehicle, different vehicles.

When they are distinct projects, it isn't the continuation of the same project or all a part of one, then I don't think that 80,000 comes in.

Because he would never put it out.

Frankly, that audit thing sounds a little silly because how are you going to... at the same time.

I mean, Yeah.

But, like I said, outside of this has been sitting in my shop, I've been working on it 4 months and I just split it into 4 different projects.

Um, that's not going to be an issue.

All right.

Okay.

Yeah?

Well, he called back.

He said they would waive that fee.

Nice.

But.

Uh-oh.

The county on debit cards, which I think the majority of people actually use versus a credit card anymore, they are still charging us one. 75% plus a ¢25 transaction fee.

And that was paid by us.

So I told them, I said, you know, anything we got to pay isn't going to be working for us, I don't think.

Because if you charge them extra to cover that, it's just going to make the thing even higher because you're charging them more money.

So, um, I think Mike mentioned square.

I think square is going to be a better option for you because you have the choice.

Yeah, Julie's company, the one that they use over there.

I called them, left them a message.

I haven't heard back in that, but there's no fee for them to use except for why does the ambulance pay it then?

I'm going to have to check that out.

Amulance face, a V for that.

Their fees are really high.

When you pay your taxes online, it's a...

Well, that's run through Tyler, different?

Okay.

And then the machine to use it is $950 to purchase a machine unless you just type it in on the computer.

So, I don't know.

Yeah, this, although I did get told the other day, somebody uses square was getting charged a feed now, $2.50 feet out of the prairie pedal she was telling me about.

I think you have options for that.

You just, it's how you set it up.

Yeah, but she had never been charged a fee before when it came through on her last thing, so I don't want to look that long, see, but yeah.

But yeah, I would look into that.

But I just wanted to tell you that they did call back and they were willing to wait the fee, which I thought was really nice, but they said they can't by law, not charge us from debit card.

So, um, upstairs when we got hooked in for the court piece.

And you're on the one that Juliet.

Yeah.

I mean, you put a little swiper right here on your computer.

What was that all about?

Someone just anyway.

Yeah, so anyway, he did call.

I told them we'd talk about it again today and then.

Well, it sounds like Clover just hit the rotor.

Well, it was really nice, though, that they waived that fee, but then when I read that, we have to pay this transaction fee for debit cards.

I mean, are you gonna I guess I don't know if you can have somebody like me, I run my debit card, but I hit it as a credit.

I wonder if that makes a difference.

It was 2.6%.

No, it comes off of what I get paid.

Well, that's what I'm saying.

We don't want that to happen in our office.

So I remember when I set mine up, though, I had the 3 choices.

I want to pay it fully.

They want to pay it fully or we split it kind of thing.

Well, and he told me this one too.

He said, like, you could, if you wanted to pay.

Or have them.

I mean, yeah, I have options with this too.

We pay, they pay, except for the debit card is a must that we pay.

Sorry, yeah.

Interesting.

Yeah, I guess maybe that would be something to ask him.

But 950 bucks for a machine kind of scene.

You have to have the machine.

He said you can have it right on your computer. and you can just punch it in on numbers on their computer, but I know with square manual entries, you get charged more.

Not much more, but you get charged for a manual entry versus a swipe.

They're not as secure.

And then we don't have anybody asking us for 2 months.

Yeah, I know You have like a run on them.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But it is nice to offer that.

Especially I have a feeling when this oil stuff comes along, all these guys coming in to get documents, so I'll have debit cards.

So hopefully we can adjust those fees and pay for it so you don't nickel and diamond somebody, you know?

Okay, Diamond set up a account with us.

So every month we'll just send them a bill, they'll send us a check.

But so the people aren't happy to pay each time they're in here.

But your fees went up quite a bit.

Right.

Well, just for recording.

Oh, no, not our coffee fees. ¢50 in 25, unlike the clerk of court's office where it's a dollar a age.

I know we always send people downstairs.

Like, go downstairs.

It's really expensive up here Well, we can't get all your documents up there.

It's like when you want a copy of a legal document up there, they charge a dollar a coffee.

Here, you get a copy of a deed that's 75 cents.

Oh, these are people coming in and they'd have something notarized and what a copy, you know, or whatever.

Oh, yeah, we don't.

We technically don't do that either.

We don't normally make copies of things that are in our office, but...

Yeah.

Okay.

And it's nice that they pull that fee out of there.

So, but I think we're going to have to still look for alternate other options also.

So, yeah.

Yep, yep.

But I will ask them about that some good...

I mean, if they run it as a credit.

Yeah, you could just tell everybody charges or not. yeah.

Okay.

Hey, I'm done with that discussion, man.

I'm hungry.

I'm not ready.

I've got the box all the books, again.

Okay, I'm finished.

Oh, yeah.

It is...

115, Monday, November 21st... 26, all officials are here in Christie.

And we're working on the inner path one. license.

I'm not real sure what they are versus what we actually do.

They're more expensive or what?

What are they eating?

Left us... 273 019, but that was in August.

Yeah.

So it doesn't look like there's probably going to be anything.

The other one was 248, 668. from the equipment loan.

Okay.

So.

I just got thinking, I don't know.

We usually pay it through automatic payment through the Treasurer's office.

They just pull the money out.

So I guess we would have to make sure shares the money for that for us before we reimburse the room in it.

I would say she doesn't.

Huh?

I mean, it's 2 weeks away.

But.

Yes, maybe.

So, when we pay the air path bones...

That don't call, it is.

A good one.

Okay.

Oh, come back.

So you have a check for them.

The charge of office to cover the loan from the credit union, the money would go into their account to cover it.

It's interesting.

Or no, would have to come into our budget.

And out, right?

Yeah.

This interest rate keeps going down.

It's a variable interest rate.

Oof, I don't like that.

I'm glad we're getting out of it.

Yeah, because sometimes it can be higher.

It was it was lower and then it went higher and then it's lower again.

Yeah, it's actually started at 5.75.

No, it's 4.5, but no, they're going to be, you know.

Yep.

Right.

So, uh, you think we can get it for?

5% of the current unit?

Oh, that's what he told me.

I guess I can go home real quick too.

Yeah, before the meeting tonight.

Yeah, I just had a lot of know at least four days.

Okay.

Hey, we're at a commissioner's waiting here, and we're just double checking the rates.

You know, like we talked about on those intercap loans.

Are we still about where we talked about?

Okay.

Okay, okay.

Well, we will get back to you, but we're going to probably end up having some paperwork to get to you.

And I'll let everybody know here what the what's going on.

Just double checking.

All right, see you later.

Bye.

Yeah, it's still 5.

Good.

That's pretty much cool.

You've been made 2nd it all in favor.

It'll be fixed.

Yeah.

Okay, so what do we need to get him to?

I guess I can find out tonight.

Smells good?

Yeah, like somebody's cooking their food.

Hmm, wouldn't be me.

Somebody must have needed something.

I just wanted to listen to your personal thing about it.

I mean, okay, listen to personnel issues.

You, um...

Okay.

Maybe I can take the...

Yeah, just so we have that mind.

And I can get back to you too.

So we can do the transaction?

Yes.

Yeah, there'll be some lag time because I think that on that sheen says 106 is the, it's going through that thing.

Yeah, it's going to, it'll take him a couple few days to get the people put together.

Yeah.

Well, any any day, you say, is for any day, you cut off.

Did you say what, what, a paper day?

Yeah, it does on that.

Oh, God.

Do you know his number?

Oh.

Oh, God, yeah, okay.

So, you should write it in your book.

So, baby, please stop.

It was just my mom, but this came out, he did right now.

Are we recording?

Okay.

I do have my keyboard, just before doctor. the Not just...

It's gone, it's gonna work.

Gone.

Can you get you gone?

Yeah, I don't know.

I hope so.

It's like...

It looks nice.

Yeah.

No, no, no. make everything.

We went to the football game on Friday and the field is so soft that it feels like you're walking on the spread occasionally.

Yeah, it was kind of nice to stand on.

You know, wasn't hard.

Okay, let's see.

On her off.

Oh, I don't think it's happening the deal.

Okay, okay.

Yeah.

So, Arlene got a hold of me loss was a Friday, Saturday.

Thursday or Friday.

She said that, um, our cleaning guy won't clean the library if she's open past six.

So there's one day a week, she's open till 8.

And then one day a month when they have book clubs, that they're open past six.

So I just...

So is that a huge issue, do you think?

Well, I don't know.

Maybe a call to Arlene would have would suffice, maybe a call or.

You know, I'm wondering if it's a bigger issue than just the library, though.

I mean, I've heard of, you know, didn't we lose a snow removal service?

He's not, he doesn't want to do that anymore.

Is that right?

He said he because of his other job.

He's not going to be able to do snow.

And then I think having problems getting a courtroom clean.

So, um, having trouble getting the garbage bag changed and the garbage up there, the food gets thrown into.

And there's, I had to tell him to change the garbage bag because there's mold growing in the garbage bag.

Yeah, I don't understand why he is definitely selective on giving you new garbage bags.

I noticed that in mine too.

Sometimes I'll have teabags and peach pits or something stuck in it or something and he just picks it up, dumps it, and it's about down. so I don't know.

But, um, And we haven't.

He's been told before by me to please change out the garbage bag because there's molded.

Does he do it then when you ask him?

Right once.

You know, we haven't done his evaluation, so that might give us an opportunity to address this kind of stuff and see if there's other alternatives.

And in the interim, maybe we could talk to Arlene as well.

I don't know, but I think it's a good thing to, yeah.

Because I was going to say, anytime I leave a note saying, please do this. it gets done.

But like you, it gets done once, I think.

I don't think he keeps it up.

Yeah, I don't know.

And maybe he might decide that it's too much for him.

I mean, I don't know.

Right, right.

And I did notice a different, like I said, I maybe probably shouldn't be, Chris.

I did notice a little difference after he went to work. you know, full time.

I think. things have gone, like our safe hasn't been cleaned for while over a week in the bathroom.

I don't think the one upstairs ever gets cleaned.

The same?

I'll wipe it down.

Get rid of it and find somebody else and don't want to work.

I think we need to talk to him.

Yeah.

And we do have one and they argue that, you know, what daily, weekly, monthly.

No.

But looks good, Gary. because that's the senior citizen.

Oh, I've got that ending, so because we do, we demand our restrooms, we clean nightly.

Well, that's just that's why we clean restroom is weekly, I don't know. what that's all about.

I would do it daily, but...

Yeah, so maybe.

Yeah, we do that.

I don't know, though, how he can get him into a meeting with you guys because he works all day, other places.

Plus he could do a phone meeting or shop.

We'd try to do that or it'd be nice to, I think, communicate..

Yeah.

And uh, get in touch with Arlene and see if she's got some solutions on her name as well, but, you know, honestly, this is a, what is it, 20 hours a week is what we're budgeted about.

And I, what's his, his whole month is maybe 4050 hours, you think?

Well, he usually, well, he puts on his time card, 3 hours or 3 hours a day.

Okay.

So, but whether he works the 3 hours. find it in your little pile of stuff.

It's got more stuff in a while.

Oh, quick, I don't follow.

I'm not making fun of me.

I don't see them 2 look at me.

No, you always seem to happen.

It's amazing.

Is the courtroom boggat list of duties?

Well, I think what happened, and I will partially, I think, we'll take a little bit of responsibility for that because for a while you guys didn't want anybody up there cleaning.

Just in our office.

I don't think that ever included the courtroom, though.

I don't know.

I mean, it gets dirty and dusty and...

And see, we have the same issue down here with the chairs in the hallways, so if I had to leave, no.

You need to dust the bookcase and the chairs or whatever in the hallway, they're getting really rusty. you know, the key to the chairs or whatever.

Right.

And then he did do it that day, but like I said, whether he might have kept up with the bookcase.

But every one of them I've had to ask, well, even though for everyone we had to wipe down the blinds, dust our blinds.

Every one of them, it's like, please testify, you know, at least once every quarter.

I mean, I mean, if it's not like the courtroom needs to be cleaned every once a month.

Well, we used to give schedules.

The custodian used to have a schedule of when the courtroom was being used, when the commissioners' rooms were being used to make sure that they got an extra good cleaning before their court base and commissioner base.

And I don't think we've done that either.

Yeah, clean and dust the courtroom on the 1st and 3rd Mondays and then another time the court will be in session weekly.

Yeah.

Because now you do court on Tuesdays, right?

Depends.

Sometimes it's Tuesdays, sometimes it's Wednesdays, sometimes it's Fridays, sometimes it's Thursday.

There's an offset day, huh?

There are a lot of motion days of our Wednesday, Tuesday.

And but Judge Island is so busy in other counties, sometimes he'll have to throw in hearings on 5 days.

Because we share our loud emotion. they look horable.

That makes sense.

Yeah.

So he comes here and it goes, I think I think it's the ball schemes to do that.

Yeah.

It stopped here in the morning, do what he needed, and go down to a little and do what he needed.

Yeah.

Okay, you go.

So maybe leave a note again, like, leave that to and say, you know, hey, you need to pay attention to this list and start following it.

Please follow this list.

It looks like you might need a little updating.

Okay, well.

Do you want me updated?

Okay.

I'm not.

Yep.

Thanks, dad.

Yep.

Coffees.

Yeah.

It's 2 o'clock, and your hole is in with the fire department review, or?

Or more?

And more of a music report.

So we had an incident on the 14th, the 1980 Chevy fire truck, hit a washout and pushed the front end front axle back on the driver's side.

The water tank did slide it.

It pushed ahead, pushed the headache rack ahead and it grabbed the frame of the window.

And when it went back, it busted the back window out.

Um, I looked at it more here the other day.

It did dent the back of the cab.

It pushed ahead far enough to dent the back of the cab.

So I guess I'm kind of wondering what we want to do there.

Good.

Colin Wall.

And it was, I mean.

I was just thinking maybe we could put it on a piece of wood and give it to him for appropriate.

Yeah.

So, uh, Neither one of them got hurt.

I mean, they they were stiff the next day, but neither one of them got hurt.

So I was just glad for that.

Oh, here, wait till...

The fire department did too, banged up their same reason.

Okay.

Yeah.

It's hard when you're going to places you don't know and you're...

Yeah. and you are kind of amped up.

I mean, you're, and it just, because I actually almost hit the same washout.

I was able to.

I wasn't, I didn't have as much weight as my biggest thing.

I was able to just kind of turn and go down with it and they just, it was too late for them by the time they seen it.

So, um, So I don't know.

It's it's like I say, it's a 1980 one ton.

I just, I don't know.

I, to me, I don't feel it's worth fixing because we're gonna have Probably over $2000 into fixing it.

And on a good day, it's not even hardly worth that.

Right.

Fixed.

Right.

So I don't know if we just want to put it up for bids.

Sell it as is.

You can take the bed to stop off.

It's not even worth taking the bed off.

Tank and then we go, too.

Tank is it's a 200 gallon tank.

It's just not.

I mean, it's really not.

And and if a farmer wanted to to buy it and and maybe they had another pickup there with a front end or something that they could put the front end on, it would be a great fire truck for a farmer to...

Yeah, go along with their, you know, I mean, it...

Okay.

We just have to remember, take it off the insurance.

What do you think?

And then the new fire truck is done and in the hall, it's ready to go.

So we will get the few things taken off of the old fire truck that we would need to take off and then that deal can happen with the city.

So, and then we'll sell that suburban also.

Then maybe we can take that money and put into another.

Yeah, it sounds like a little bit more modern vehicle if we can, but, you know, not be new.

Right, right.

Be nice to get them fuel injected, at least.

Yeah, get in that 88 now.

Yep.

Yep.

Yep.

And I don't know, I guess that's another thing I need to ask you guys.

Do we want a whole bunch more outlying trucks like that?

They they are helpful.

But it does seem to cost quite a bit of money sometimes to keep them up too.

And some of them, they get out there and they get full of mice.

Wouldn't you really have one of these go down and one of your newer ones?

Yes.

Yes.

I wouldn't go.

Same traction.

Right, right.

I agree.

I do agree.

I just don't know how many county owned vehicles we want to have out there because we have county owned ones.

We have one, two.

Well, there was three.

I think we got four.

Right.

I mean, Right.

Do you know what it would cost to fix that up?

I mean, it's still cheaper than buying a different one.

If you can repair it.

I mean, it's hard in a depth cabin.

I mean, get or in a window.

Right, right.

I mean, again, in a fire truck ain't hurt enough.

No, no.

So it's at least 2 ground.

I mean, that's all I'm getting at.

I mean, yeah, $2000 fire trucks still good hell online.

Right.

I mean, if it's a good, if it works the way you want it.

Yes and no.

I mean, And I mean, it does run good.

Um, I don't know.

We were just down there roughly figuring It's probably going to be between 2000 and 2500 bucks to fix it.

But if we got a $2000 deductible yeah.

Well, you just end up paying for it all yourself.

Yeah.

It's not worth turning in for $500.

No, no.

And damn, there.

And that's kind of the other thing, I guess I'm kind of, do we...

Do we want vehicles on our fleet that are less than what the deductible is?

I mean, you're paying insurance on it?

that if something happens to it, you don't get anything out of it.

No, I get it.

Like if you if you're going to use this vehicle 6 times in a year, you know, or 10 times in a year, then that's the $2000 vehicle we want out there.

Right.

We don't want to have a $10,000, you know, $40,000, right.

No.

No, no.

I mean, I just sat for $2,000, We still got a fire ditch.

Right.

And I agree with you.

I do agree with that.

I do.

And yeah, we can do that.

I mean, that's cool.

No, it is a four-wheel drive.

Is it just the spring?

So it actually on the spring?

Yeah, it broke the center bolt out of the spring.

But it was, because Nicholas called me on the way out there and he asked if anybody had drove it over 25 mile an hour and I hadn't.

I just drove it around town a little bit and it's loose in the front end.

So they got to put a bunch of stuff into the front end to make it drive good again, you know.

And that was part of the, the, 2000 that we were figuring is making it.

Well, I would say just weigh it all out and see what see what you can come up with for some numbers on something else versus just that.

If you kind of know where you are fixing that, then you just got to look past that and say, right.

These are a couple options.

And if we're going to set it up, you know, put it out in the county somewhere with somebody.

It's not that bad of, you know, it's not that bad of you.

Like you say, it gets used a few times out of the year.

You know, I mean, Because we're probably going to have more than that into, even if we sell the suburban and to come up to get another one built.

Right.

It is actually $2,500.

Yeah I was just curious, but yeah.

Yeah, and I don't know why you keep any other liability on stuff like that anyway.

But it isn't worth nothing.

And you're not gonna...

If you're gonna get in the $2,500 range, you're gonna total it anyway.

Right.

So you're paying a lot for confident collision on something or that isn't worth it.

Right.

You're paying insurance on something that...

But you're not going to get anything out of it.

Liability covers anything that happens to anybody.

Oh, okay.

Even if it's your fault or something or whatever, somebody else's fault, right?

The occupants are still covered for, yeah, for medical and things like that through liability.

It's just if you hit a deer or you hit another...

Right, but I was just wondering up personnel.

I mean, never.

Right, right.

Liability covers all that.

Yeah, sounds like a plan.

And it's funny, you know, one inch, I didn't like it.

I know.

I know.

I mean, like I say, you go out to places that you don't know.

I mean, even if you know.

Yeah, exactly.

Things can happen.

The water cuts through a different every time the wind or the rains 2 inches around here.

Because this one was actually weird.

We were on top of a hill and there's this big washout on top of the hill.

Like, what the hell, greater mark?

No, no, it was they had farmed through it.

I mean, it was a stubble field.

So it just, it was really weird.

Really weird where it was at.

Yeah, yeah.

So, yeah, I can sure look into it more.

I didn't really want to mess with it until we knew what, but I can look into it more and see. one of our cheaper ways about keeping a vehicle on a farm.

Yep, yep.

Yep.

Have you set the time?

Yes, that is the 7th of November.

I'm sure.

Yep, 7th of November.

You have to go.

Thank everybody for voting.

Yeah.

Blank or blank?

There you go.

So, I did write this incident report up for her, so she has it on file.

Thank you.

I was trying to think of what else.

Was there was anything special we have to do to get the city in the the county switched with the truck in the suburban?

I think that's just titling isn't it?

I think so yeah.

An insurance course, which would fall over.

Right.

Right.

So...

Um...

Bring that for Christie, I guess, and see if she can handle that.

I think that was the big thing.

We've had paper.

Yeah, yeah.

And and I'm just glad this wasn't worse than what it was.

I mean, no personality.

It very easily could have been and Colin felt terrible.

He must have had to hit his head on the damn.

It stopped him.

So they they went forward and they both 10 stuff.

That's why they were stiff the next day is they, yeah.

So, yeah.

But it didn't even kill it.

It was still running.

He pulled it in mirror and dryers.

Yeah.

Well, yeah, yeah.

I've done that, dear, one time.

Exactly the same thing. fighting a fire.

Chasing a deer.

Yep.

And that alignment pin, you do not need, you can crank them down with...

And I think it's just a bolt through them.

Yeah, or sometimes the one spring has not, you know, a notch in it, notch.

If you get where it's set and you clamp them down.

Yeah.

I've done a couple of them.

Yeah, and they last forever with all you tighten the graphite.

Yep. and then go move.

Yeah.

So I'll look into it more and make sure there's nothing else.

More that's bent or anything.

I don't surprise you.

The steering.

Yeah, I don't I don't think so.

I shouldn't vent anything on that.

Here's that...

I would doubt that it did.

Right.

Because you just want to piss.

Yeah.

Stop, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Of course, Wade will do some strange things sometimes.

That's probably the way to just flex the frame enough to where it kissed the cow.

Yeah.

Well, and the headache rack isn't real, not real stout.

I'm kind of wondering if I shouldn't maybe beef that up a little bit if we keep it.

Because I had just replaced the straps on that tank.

There was there's big wide straps that go over it, and they were pretty frayed and bad before.

If I hadn't of, I think, that tank would have been in the cab.

So.

You mean if you don't strap him down?

No, he changed straps.

The old rotted straps were, I mean, they were about half gone, you know.

So.

I thought there was something else, but I don't think so now.

When I leave, I'll think of it.

We're here.

Yeah, I think we're kind of set for...

Kind of fun to get this new one out and see what it does. how it works.

We have it.

No, no.

It just got done here last week, so got the radio and stuff put in it.

So it is ready.

It's ready to use now.

So hopefully that...

Yeah, fits in there.

I haven't tried to put them in the, it's in the hall.

I haven't tried to put it in the other spot where we want to put it, but it Yeah, it's in there.

It's yeah.

So.

Yeah.

Okay, we'll look that over and see what.

Yep, let's work on it, see what we can do.

We can come up with for pricing and Unless you come across something in the meantime, too, you know?

Right, right.

Play anything that has that's ready to go is expensive.

I mean, it just...

The only thing is, I need to talk with the city and see what they are expecting on that because if they're not going to use that tank and stuff off of that one that we're will have a tank and everything so that it wouldn't hardly cost us, you know, a vehicle to get one built.

So.

But I, them, them ones that are out.

You don't have anything in the fleet, you could make better and transfer that one down either.

You know what I mean?

No, not really.

You better yourself on the other hand.

No, because our everything's going to be another.

The other one that we have to update is another big truck.

So that's, you know, quite expensive again.

Um, Okay.

But I think there's, there is them too, that 80 and then the 80, so the 86 or something that, that Josh Green has. that are, they're getting up there in age.

And like you say, they are a cheap fire truck to put out to farmers and stuff, but they're...

Right, right.

So, I guess if we can.

If this one can be fixed fairly reasonable, and then we can maybe start working on in in time updating them.

Yeah, you're gonna be living for a duly four-wheel drive.

Yeah, you talk?

Yeah.

You know, but there's an all trash.

Right.

And I don't know if it needs to be a dooley either.

You know, if it was a one ton. 400 gallons of water.

Yeah, I mean, I don't, I think you're wrong.

Neil, I don't know what it's all about, but he Oscar's got something wrong side highly.

I seen that one.

I did.

And that would be a, I don't know what he wants for it, but no, that's what I'm saying.

I just seen that out.

Is that something we're looking at?

Right, right.

I'm sure it won't be cheap.

It sounds like the bank has a a Ford power stroke that they're going to be putting up for auction.

It's got a flatbed on it.

But I don't know if it's a The problem with our haul is we can't get like a super cab or a crew cab.

They won't fit in there.

Well, in those days, they're just about all behind.

They are, yes.

From 2005, six, seven, eight, 9, 10 on.

It's nothing but extended cabs and crew cows.

Exactly.

Can't find anything else.

Exactly.

So, yeah, I don't know.

I think for right now, we're sitting pretty good with what we got.

I wouldn't mind starting to look at updating that Ford truck that we have, but it still does fine.

I mean, there's nothing wrong with it at the blue one?

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's a.

Is that an 89?

I think.

But there's nothing wrong with it right now.

I mean, it does fun.

And it's a diesel.

And you think about it, anything, fuel objective-wise, 87, even 87, even if it's a 90.

Yeah, that's still pushing 30 years old.

Yeah.

I mean, you're gonna have stuff to do on.

Yep, yep.

I want to shoot off.

There you go.

Okay.

That's basically what this is.

So, I don't see any different words.

Um, We won't be billed to charge for any hours that we don't use.

You know, they allow for so many hours, but if you don't use them all, you won't be built for them.

Okay.

Yep.

It's all, I don't know.

I didn't really go through this.

Julie's going through it so she'll tell me what's wrong.

Because I looked at it like 14 different times only last 8 months, 6 months that we've also been doing this.

All I do know is they're going to migrate us to the cloud.

We won't have to have a server for that reason.

We still have access to our desktops to use it as we do now if we want.

And then we'll be actually updated where we are now.

If we don't go to the club, we won't be updated unless it's a federal requirement.

That's so important without updating.

I mean, that's all your buyers.

Right.

And now here's another whole ball of wax animal worms, however you want to go.

So because we're going to be supported in the cloud, they will be doing our backups for us, they will be able to restore us if something happens, et cetera, et cetera.

Nice, good.

So, but also have 1st call doing the same thing right now.

Now we're going to have to decide what we're going to do there.

Yeah, because they're more of a savings.

But the, well, the plus to this song is 1st call is backing up all of our workstations where the cloud won't be doing that.

So we do software.

Yeah, perfect.

Okay.

So we still, I think, want 1st call to do all of our workstations.

I have a lot of stuff on the workstation.

I would hate to see that goal.

And in fact, he did have to use it on tierras.

There was some stuff that she accidentally deleted. but they went and could recover it backwards.

So that was kind of handy dandy.

I got one question for you.

That's like a damn good answer.

What the hell is a cloud?

It's what those dad centers all are.

Is that what it does?

Nothing can happen to them.

Well, they say they're super, super secure more than what we've got going on, so I don't know.

No, they're on the field, fight tech things.

Yeah, I can care less about it.

But that's what it is.

It's big those Internet data centers.

Do you have any idea where?

I'm not sure where.

It's all tied.

It's kind of interesting because it's not like each document goes to one space. like kind of like does its own thing.

It's its own organization thing.

So, recalling it is, it's interesting.

It's not organized like we would organize things.

It's very interesting.

It's kind of like where you get an analog...

I don't understand.

I know.

This big box for this little thing.

Well, that too, but also how they process how they fill your shipment, because they're not, they, I don't even know.

I don't what they do. clarification.

So for the tax-wise, this is tax-wise portion, and this is the general agent portion.

Well, this is the school here.

Yeah, the total together.

So tax wise and the not.

So is general.

It's infinite basic.

52,000?

Yeah.

Okay.

That what I was drunk.

It's like, how are they doing that?

And then you've got extra because of like us, we have the one with the fixed asset, but you have all these tax wise and you have high tax and you have whatever, all that's included in yours.

It's just one annual payment.

Or is it a month?

That's in the wrong one.

No, no.

Screwjab.

It's one annual.

Is it once or is it?

But this also includes the coming over.

Transition fee?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, because like Julie, she's got the web portal, the online payments, the cash receiving, and the taxation and billing system.

So she's got 4 things on the tax Ys, as we call it.

And then mine for my infinite or school, VR, whatever it is.

ERP.

Yeah.

I've got the...

ERP Pro financial... and Payroll. claims, um, All of that on that one.

Oh, you're not.

I understand that.

Well, I think I think in the end it's gonna be good.

It might be.

All tasty word for it.

And beans, it's the same company doing it and they've had the cloud for quite some time.

I think the transition's gonna be easier.

And and with us in the cloud, I'm going to go work from my new house I got and the county can pay me rent.

No, I'm kidding.

There are days the peace and quiet would be very beneficial.

You probably hate yourself.

No, I wouldn't do it all the time.

I mean, there are times.

It would be really beneficial to have some peace and quiet to do your work, but that's why I like that.

Did you hold it down one, or I mean, my God.

Oh my goodness.

I know I'm not.

Yeah, well, what was the server gonna cost?

It was expensive too. 30 grand or something.

And we still do have to get a server, but not for any of this, just for us for a Rocky.

Yeah, in 3 years.

Now we're basically throwing that money.

And like with our server that we need for Documentroke that we have, the guy said they can't give us a price on it within a week of when they order it.

It changes all the time.

Yep.

It said it's crazy.

So we're trying to get that all situated as to the size and everything before they go ahead and give us a quota on it.

Well, it does, but it comes out of records preservation.

Oh, we have our own fun that part of our document that we charge goes into that fund.

So it's not coming out of taxpayer money that way, like our meals do.

It comes out of what our customers have been paying us over the last 20 years, 15 years, 20 years.

For a while.

Yeah.

So I mean, it's ceremony too, because they're taxpayers, but it's not a tax-based expense.

There you go.

No, we had to do it in 3 years.

Oh, now. 2030 was the man.

Oh, so now...

Holy, you're going to get in.

You're getting in on the club.

We're ahead of your time.

Hell, my head's in the colorful type anyway.

You don't even know it.

You're right.

Because when you're in cloud, yeah, I hear you when you're at the data center, you're all just buying water anyway.

That's right.

A lot of them don't even use water anymore?

Yeah.

What do they use mature cooling reactors or something?

You know, like helium is a great.

Um, coolant.

It stays liquid to, like, almost Kelvin.

There's a lot of different things that they use.

They were pushing for very Montana.

I thought there was a commission meeting that was going to Idaho in Wyoming to go look at some of them.

And, like, they've said the most probable places, though, floating island, I'm out in the middle of someplace and never even get seen.

Do we need a motion?

Yes.

I would make a motion to sign the service agreement with Tyler to move a song, move it all up.

You can do.

Can I hear?

Can you have it in you?

All available.

Bye.

What's your fear?

I don't understand none of it.

So I can care less about it.

I think it's just gonna get us in more trouble.

You might not be wrong, but when you're forced to do it, you don't have much to do.

No, I really, I know that.

Can, yeah.

You know, my servers getting old and they're not gonna maintain a past.

This is going to work.

Well, it's been working.

How long has the cloud been around?

I didn't got a clue.

Quite a while.

Every day or so.

Google. internet.

You've seen it a 100 times.

It's 5 o'clock and we're ready to adjourn the meeting.

Tammy.