September 22nd, 2026 Meeting

What?

Please call the role.

Council person's time.

Larson, here, Crowder.

Here.

Kate, Brian is gone today, but we have a quorum, so we will move on.

In your packet is the agenda for today's meeting. and entertain a motion to adopt.

Okay, so almost made secondly to adopt.

Today's agenda.

Any questions?

You want to move this up?

Well, yeah, we'll uh, right under public comment, we'll uh, we'll address um, the tree street closure situation.

So get that done.

So with that one change, any other comment?

Kate, hearing none, all those in favor?

Okay, motion.

Carries.

Next are the minutes from the September 8th meeting.

I had to entertain a motion to approve those minutes.

I'll make a motion to prove the minutes from September 8.

Second.

All right, we have a motion made and seconded.

Is there any discussion, any addition solutions, corrections?

Okay.

Hearing done.

All those in favor?

All right.

Okay, so at 832, we will close the city council meeting and open public hearing for repealing and replacing chapter 15 dot 16 fire limits.

Okay, so does anybody out there have any questions, comments, concerns about what we're doing with our local organs?

As I expected.

Okay, so hearing no comment at 833, I will close the public hearing for repealing and replacing chapter 15 dot 16, choir limits, and reopen.

Our city council meeting.

Okay, so do I have any public comment?

Okay, so Chris, we can go ahead and knock gears out here.

Because you are under street closure, 102 mil.

So what are we doing?

I would like to cut down.

Hopefully we can get it done October 3rd, but I'm asking for October 4th as well.

Just in case there's some extra cleanup.

Just so that we don't have vehicles driving by, possibly, but driving to knock trees down, because there is no room in my yard to knock the big trees down.

And just during daylight hours, we'll have things cleaned up for night so people can pass.

Okay.

Are you having a crew come in?

Um, me and some friends.

Okay.

Okay.

Yeah, I don't think there's a problem.

There's nothing stopping.

People from doing their own. stuff, so.

Um, so is this something?

Do we need to approve the street closure?

What emotion?

Yeah, I think we do. would be similar, I guess, kind of circumstance.

Okay.

Limited closure for specific reason.

Okay, so I would...

No, I don't think that matters.

I think plus I think you can vote if you just maybe couldn't have discussion. if that's true or not, but...

So at this time I'd entertain a motion that we allow Chris Larson to do some partial closures on Mill Street, specifically near 102 Mill on October 3rd and possibly October 4th.

So move.

No second.

Okay, so we have motion made and seconded.

Any discussion?

Any questions for Chris?

I think it's pretty straightforward what you're trying to do.

Safety first, although I think we all have a shirt that says safety 3rd somewhere in the closet, so.

Okay, all those in favor?

All right.

Okay, motion carries. 3 guys.

All right.

Good to go, Chris.

Just keep us posted if anything changes.

You'll go from there.

Okay, so White and Kirk, you guys have any public comment?

What you're actually here for?

Do we need Google, the sheriff's office know that then?

They don't really have like homes.

We do.

Yeah, we do, and, you know, the public has access to our phones.

We just like to get them back.

Yeah.

Okay.

Okay, so, um.

Utility clerk report.

Okay.

So public works.

Steve is at a, uh, Continuing Ed training in Wolfpoint for his water license, right?

Son, yeah?

Yes.

Okay.

He didn't have much, although...

There is a request to use the baseball field for flight football.

And don't have a problem with it.

I think the only question is, can we do like a modified...

Okay.

They'll have to have their event coverage, like, and then they'll also need to provide like waivers for each attendee. will have to sign up.

And there's just a nice, you know, indemnification clause for the city and they're basically that they're intending to find the city for liability.

Okay.

But yeah, I can get that to you this afternoon.

Okay.

Is that going to be this weekend?

It's gonna get a little chilly.

You know what they're permitting, but...

Yeah.

And those are just a one time deal or are they going to do?

think it's going to be kind of a a weekend, you know, throw together league tech deal, whoever's available.

Oh, okay.

Yeah, I don't I don't know.

I didn't get the impression it was a one time deal.

Sonia, do you know?

I know, um, so Preston is putting this on Preston Baldry and he reached out to Sonya, like through Facebook Messenger and Sonya asked him if his schedule allowed to come to the meeting and kind of explain to us what's going on, but, um, so we don't know all the details yet, but, you know, I, I, regardless, I don't see any, any issues.

There'll be no bathrooms because we, I think those are already locked, no concessions.

So I think the big deal for the city is to just have a simplified permission slip.

Hey, we're going to use the field.

Here's some proof of insurance.

Yep, I agree.

So.

So I guess, um...

Yeah.

High school football, that is.

So, yeah, more to come, but just making the council aware that, you know, field's going to be used for something.

And so I'm assuming, uh, if he goes all in on this, he may even strike it.

So I don't have any issues with it being striped.

So, Just good to see the field being used.

Yep.

I agree.

Well, that's where the original football field was, right?

Yep.

Oh, really?

Oh, yeah?

Okay, so more to come on that, but just in case you hear it around now, you kind of know what's going on.

Um, so the other thing that Steve was going to bring up, um, or that he was questioning that we would have had a discussion about.

So, um, so similar to like why Chris was here, but, So Scott has 1st Avenue closed because he's using the crane to lift those roofs on.

Well, so I don't have a problem with that, but we should probably have some sort of mechanism to where the city's notified that we're going to close the street now.

And a quick thought was, when someone puts in a permit for a new building house, whatever, that should be a question on there, if you require any street closures, you need or must give the city 24 to 4 date hours notice, so we can post it.

You know, it's just a keeping the communication going.

So that might be something.

I, we don't have to do that, but that was an idea.

It might be as that way when the homeowner, building owner, property owner and the contractor sign it, they're signing, hey, you know, you need to give us a little heads up. think that's a good idea.

So, Maybe we rework that a little bit.

Yep.

Yeah.

So I guess, do you have that or should success on email what we have?

Yeah.

Yep.

Okay, okay.

So when I just got text back from Brock, since we were talking about baseball field, assuming the high school football team makes a deep playoff run like last year in the last couple years.

Once daylight savings time hits.

They move practice down to the baseball field because of the lights because they don't practice on our playing field.

So he literally just now texted back.

So I know it's been used for flag football.

Oh, let me sorry, Brock.

You're late.

Yeah.

What about 5 minutes later?

Yeah, yeah.

You like to have to practice on your field or at the gym.

So I'm assuming by that time, Daily saving science seems to always be around Halloween, right?

Yeah, November.

First week of November.

Yeah.

So.

So anyway, we're going to allow that.

So, of course, we, Sonya just called yesterday to have... earlier last week, have the lights shut up, have empty shut everything up.

Well, maybe what day did you call last week?

Maybe they haven't been out yet.

Of course.

So.

Yeah, that's all Steve had talked to me about.

Does anyone have any comments for public works?

You can bring up to them.

So we're still on the garbage.

I guess I'll just bring this up.

You know, we're still at both Plentywood's mercy on certain days and our landfills mercy, certain days, weather permitting, so there may be days where we can't dump the whole town on our schedule days.

So just in case people are harassing me with that. you know, we're we're just a pickup service, we have to have a place to dump it ourselves and that's posed some logistical issues here in the last several weeks.

Um, Zoning.

So, 206 zoning.

So look, this time, I would entertain emotionally approved the zoning permit, uh, 206 B Street to have, I believe it's a shed, uh, brought in our garage.

Make a motion to approve the application for zoning permit at 206 B Street.

And him.

Great.

Motion made and seconded, any discussion?

Hearing none, all those in favor?

Hi.

Hi.

Okay.

Fire chief report.

We've got our air packs being certified.

It should be within the next couple weeks.

We do it every other year.

And then those turnout jackets that we ordered a year ago.

I don't know if you remember that.

Vaguely?

Yeah, we had that burned out of the trailer, and we burned up the jacket.

Yeah.

Those will probably be done here soon.

Back one, basically.

Holy cow.

So I got an email from there.

We finally, to the point in our lives, were they're not blaming COVID anymore?

No, not it's tariffs.

Tariffs.

I'm sure it's movies.

Yeah, it's been almost a year.

So does that happen?

So those will be coming up.

So were there backup jackets at those firemen?

First away would use the ones they got.

Okay.

Bridget Burr.

Do you remember how much that is?

I love them.

Or do we pay phone bills until we give?

Okay.

But a full set of turned out to was like, what, 3 grand?

I'm going to assume the jackets for about $1,000.

I would say worst case scenario, $1,000.

I think if I remember right, yeah, they were, like, 1,100 bucks for the jackets.

Yeah.

Something like that.

Okay.

Oh, wow.

Well, it depends on how you wanted to do it.

I mean, the crowd...

Yeah, but the thing is, is that they're never in a fire, and I...

I know that they have, like, expiration, expiration, you know.

But I think that's in fire service.

These don't.

Most of that fire gear has never seen a fire.

No.

So.

Okay.

And then if something happens, like, you know, this last incident. then we replaced it.

Well, I just look at it from a liability standpoint, not that I want to spend all this money, you know, throwing burning money, literally, but, you know, if there is someone's wearing a 10 year old turnout, the expiration date, you know, it's good for 7 years in service and there is a burn or something.

Can that individual come back on the city?

And again, that's on working gear.

Ours is not.

You're not you're not exposing that gear to all the chemicals of a typical fire.

So you guys kind of keep track of what gets exposed to fire and what doesn't?

Well, I mean, we have logs on who was at the fire and who wasn't.

Sometimes you got something you could try.

I mean, the only buyers that we've had is our merchant.

Yeah.

I'm trying to think of the last fire where we made entrance, and that was probably... pro co-op.

And that wouldn't even...

Yeah.

That was small.

Did anybody make entrance at that Thanksgiving?

It was already too far.

Oh, yeah, they okay.

Clint?

And they don't even...

Yeah.

In those trucks.

I think the last one with mid entrance was Dick Marley. probably 15 years ago.

Where there was active fire.

Yeah.

Okay.

Well, as long as we're, you know, I just don't want the city exposed, I mean, it's, again, I don't want to keep buying brand and turnouts for no reason, but...

I don't think there's any...

Yeah.

Is there, do they actually have expiration date on them?

So I guess use pass expiration.

I could see liability there other than that.

Yeah.

I bet we get better for not here than 90%.

Oh, yeah.

And that was the newest stuff we had.

It was nice because it was broke in.

kind of do an inspection.

Oh, Marty Marvel, which.

Yeah.

Marty Marvel.

Yeah, but I thought after that we...

No, we just started having our we started having our banquets to raise money for new gear because we couldn't afford to get it otherwise.

Yeah, it was a pretty big expense.

Okay, but we don't need to spend all day on it.

I just, as long as we have a plan, you know, we're good, but...

Um, He actually quipped on that fire I was talking about.

Yeah.

Locked away.

They're not going into it.

No.

Oh, no, guys.

You'll die.

November something?

November...

Usually falls around like district or divisional volleyball.

The seven.

November seventh.

Okay.

So the 1st Saturday in November.

Support your local fire department.

City attorney, you can come over from Funny Island that Friday night.

Find a sitter for the kids, date night.

You have guns?

Babysitter for couples that want to.

Sure.

Block them in there.

That's good idea.

Okay.

So why anything else?

Okay.

Kurt.

Public safety commission report.

Uh, total calls for 254.

I don't have a breakdown between a city and a county of this one.

Right now, the sheriff's office has been kind of busy, and there's some personal issues going on, so...

And they range from anywhere from trespass to vandalism.

I don't know, there's just such assault in here. 28 complaints, civil services, five.

One of salt, and 23 animal complaints.

So they've been having milk. 31 citations, and I don't have a brick down on that one.

There's been quite a few traffic interactions.

Yeah, so I don't know what the adjudications are, once they, once I hear about them, I don't go beyond that.

And we had quite a few truancy ones that everyone has paid.

I think I just have one outstanding one.

Okay.

As far as, uh, other reports, the sheriff's office acquired six tasers, and they are the up to date Persians, and they were, they got them free, plus the training, through apartment corrections.

Gate is instructed on that, and no, I don't want to be tased, because...

I've been hit twice.

I have one...

No.

No, it's not a good experience.

It's fun to watch And pepper spray.

So they have another less lethal option for this.

And...

So since they got them free, they'll have to keep up with the perishable trainings.

And, like, the batteries.

You can't recharge the boundaries.

So you have to recharge, and you have to buy more.

So there's gonna be an equipment issue where it's enough.

Oh, yeah.

They talk with them, they got good stuff.

So this is stuff that I would buy.

What else I have?

I've got the note on the closure of the Mill Street from Mill Street.

And I got a question for us, is, what's established with the city, on the agreement, for the piece.

Yes, seriously.

We have it on the agenda further down.

Yeah.

Are you guys considering adopting it, or?

Yeah, it'll be a promotion for adoption.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's basically all life out.

You guys have any other questions?

Are we getting beckles on cars?

Sorry.

Sorry to be a...

I know it's...

I just had a hotel on that yesterday.

Yeah.

And I saw somebody go through town this morning, and I was sitting in the living room of the house, kind of a purpleish blue SUV that looked like it had yellow lettering on it.

And I don't know whether it was law enforcement or not.

They have had appointments with K2 signs.

Yeah.

Either parties had to cancel because either something happened.

Logan told me all the details had been ordered.

They just haven't been.

Yeah, try to schedule.

Yeah.

Installed, I guess.

Good times to go out there.

They're there.

They just have to be applied.

Um...

That's basically all I have right now.

Okay.

I don't think so.

As long as they're getting on the decal situation.

Yeah, that's good to hear.

I've seen them, I've seen them, are supposed to look, but...

Yeah.

And they are ordered, I think...

I think she does have them.

They just need to be applauded.

Hopefully, they don't have another answer.

That's what I...

Every time my appointment's made, that vehicle gets disabled in somewhere.

Is there a backup vehicle?

Yeah, but there's...

There's three vehicles, and they're having some consummation on the one backup with the county.

So the fighting is now with the county, too, so...

You know, just, it makes sense that you just rotate one vehicle out, let it sit wherever it needs to until they do that.

Yeah, yeah.

Beckling and then move along.

Yeah.

I'll readress that again.

Okay.

No?

Appreciate the report.

Thanks, Kurt.

Okay, moving on.

Council comments.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yep, thank you.

What one page was that?

Yeah, that's the kind of question.

Well, It's kind of a convoluted thing because, um, I actually had another phone call and it was a similar question, but that, that's neither here nor there.

Um, As near as I can figure in what I was looking up is the separation of powers and when it comes to federalism, like cities have the right, um, to operate on the local level through the ordinance process.

We know that that's how we operate.

But I think the concern was more, if you're going to do this based solely on, you can't have powers greater than the state allows, then how can you even enforce anything?

Well, that's a general sort of a question, I think.

Yeah.

I'm not gonna, I don't want to do your work for you, but it's a general sort of a question where the Montana code addresses fire code directly and says they must be.

And so if anything, we're correcting a fault that we've had in our ordinances forever.

We've had a code that's more stringent than was than the state or international codes have.

And that's enforcement.

We can't do more than what the state allows and we don't even have any process by which to enforce a law.

Well, relevant to building codes and fire codes.

We have, you know, our zoning codes weekend.

Yeah, yeah.

And that's what I was explaining, but again, there were 2 separate calls.

I want to make that, you know, the one went well.

The other one was more like, well, how can you do anything than, you know, just just wanting to kind of pick a fight, but it's not a fight worth having, but it's one of those things where simple civics lessons would do good.

Like, there are separations of powers and cities are allowed to do certain things.

Pursuant to Jason Nasby's letter.

I think, you know, being part of that group that did the voter review, we dug fairly deep into Montana codes and whatnot.

And I think he's he doesn't realize that that separate code exists for fire.

And he went deep into all those things we talked about, which are all generalists.

And they don't address things in particular.

Mm-hmm.

We're taking enforcement away.

Yeah.

So isn't that a good thing in most people's eyes?

I mean, we're giving more freedom to the homeowner to do what they wish with their property in their building as long as it falls within the state and federal regulation.

I mean, it's not like we're saying no, you can't do this.

We're saying, yes, you can, and here's the reason.

Yeah.

That's what I don't understand what all the fight is like because we're not a subject matter experts on.

We don't want source board needs to be used or what material needs to be used.

I mean, we have a general understanding, but we rely on the state or federal rules. who actually has a department within the state that does building inspections.

So I couldn't tell you got caught.

Can you enforce it?

I think we answered a call then.

No, we can't even enforce it.

No.

It just this specific.

Well, anyway, I didn't want to get into a fight with people on the separation of powers and whatnot.

So because I am not a civics professor.

I generally know why we can come up with ordinances and whatnot.

I'm like, I don't know.

I don't know the answer to the question you're asking, and I really don't know the question that you're asking me.

Like, but if this is important to you, please come to a meeting or caller city attorney, because I can't give you an answer.

Like, I'm just listening to you vent about stuff that I don't know about.

Even if I were to read it in our code book, I still personally, probably wouldn't understand it to the level that a city attorney or a professional in that field.

So those ordinances are written in...

Oh, it's great.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'm interested to hear what he hears back from them.

No, well, that gal won't probably won't.

I tried to think that was on Montana State multiple times about just, and I've never heard a response back and I emailed and left voicemails and saying...

I think it was somebody that just works within Dan Clark's office.

Yes, it was.

It was an employee of New York's office.

So he was probably just, you know, wanting them to look up.

Montana Court annotated to prove his points or whatever.

And he's familiar with that office because of what we did before.

Yeah.

And it is a, I mean, it is a good good tool.

Yeah, you know.

Yeah, yeah.

In my former life as a city council member, I called down quite regularly just to try and figure out what I'm supposed to do.

So.

You know, and I don't I don't want the wrong impression out there.

I don't get upset when people question what we're doing, but it'd be nice if they're questioning what we're doing.

Obviously they have questions about how did we get here?

So, you know, again, before you haul off and send an email or do this or that, like maybe do a little bit more research or come come to a meeting.

Like I said, the one was good.

And the other one was more of a blaming.

How can you how can you make me do this then if, you know?

That's what I don't understand what the argument is.

We're not enforcing anything.

That's what we're not doing.

You know, it's not enforcement saying, no, you can't do this anymore.

This is we're giving you more freedom to do this as long as you're within the, you know, NFP guidelines.

I guess the national fire protection, building guidelines.

As long as you're within that, then we're good with it because we don't enforce building roads.

Don't know anything about it.

And people are comparing an Apple to an orange.

Yeah, it's not even...

So, I think that's right.

I think it's a Fifth Amendment, something to do with the Fifth Amendment.

It hurt my brain.

Or excuse me, counsel comments.

Great.

Well, we will keep moving on.

Um, so we got...

The sidewalk policy.

So I think golf we did here was add that we will cover up to $2,000.

Uh, after, so if applicable state and or federal requirements, standards cause additional expenses, that is all additional language that we didn't have before.

Okay.

That's the only change.

And it's up to $2000 per project to comply with handicapped accessible size locks.

But we need itemized invoicing, you know, that, oh, this is all hand to make it handicapped accessible.

Yeah.

And Steve wanted the city to pay for that additional handicap cost directly to the contractor and not so build the city after the approved amount.

Yeah.

Upon receiving the itemizing person.

Yeah, so...

Everything else is the same.

Okay.

Well, I'd entertain a motion that we approve. our 50-50 sidewalk replacement program.

And move as person.

Well, second.

Okay, so motion made 2nd in to approve our 50-50 sidewalk replacement program.

Any further discussion?

Kate, hearing none, all those in favor.

Motion carriers.

Okay, so you see, I had taken a phone call, and took some notes and then immediately put it in an email and sent to Steve and Sonya, and I had asked Sonya to put this on the agenda.

So, Um, Basically, it's an FYI.

I know I have, there are some alleys where we need to do a little bit more hedge trimming, so they don't, you know, hit your vehicle and you're driving down or whatever, but, um, you know, we go, our garbage truck goes through the alleys. 2 times a week.

So, you know, I feel that we don't have to go inspect the alleys because we're already doing it twice a week, every alley.

So, you know, if the if those shrubbery or tree branches or if there's a broken fence that's leaning or whatever, if it's impeding traffic at all or if it's rubbing against, you know, the truck, well, then maybe it's something we need to address.

So I visited a little bit with Steve about that.

So again, a liability thing, if you're driving down the alley and neighbor's tree scrapes you, you know, whose fault is it?

I don't know.

You got to prove negligence, probably 1st and Correct.

All that stuff.

So.

But, and then we are trying to, this alley between Park and Janice Street, um, trying to, I guess, get that kind of figured out.

So, again, more or less an FYI there for you.

Do we need to have that alley survey?

So if we have questions on it, like half of the alley has been surveyed from Smith, going north to past like UTex property, because the alley kind of takes a little, it kind of follows the street, takes a little jog to the left.

So...

We probably don't have alleys.

North Donda map.

Not really.

Yeah.

Most of the other alleys.

So I think that's why there's always concern over this.

I can grab them from the courthouse.

Okay.

My understanding is he has cameras all around that.

Oh, so, yes, a 360 view.

Yep.

And he probably has ones pointed upward. don't know.

Well, and I think the fence is basically right on the line.

It is.

I think it's in compliance because Steve's measured it.

It's in compliance, but yeah, I mean, it's right on the line.

Uh-huh.

I don't know how you straightened some of those.

Yeah.

We've had to put open points on...

Neath, blade, and add gravel.

Yeah, so I'm hoping we can get that part done.

But even my alley, where I live, there's it takes a jog around an overgrown hedge and kind of goes into, you know, the neighbor or the cross alley property. up their back, you know, so it isn't.

And really...

If the homeowner doesn't do it, it's, we have right away, we can go in there and, you know, we're not going to obviously trim it like a professional.

It's gonna be trimmed for efficiency.

Not saying they're going to purposely make it look bad, but I mean, might not round off the edges like someone who knows what they're doing.

And to use unilateral truth.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, sign up.

So I go down.

So.

So pretty much to Morgan's.

And then...

Takes a wonky turn.

We're going to try to take a take a good look and, you know, try to correct the worst thoughts, I guess.

Street closure.

We already did.

So city sponsorship hospital.

Are we have you heard anything from anybody?

I heard they're, I just might be a new CEO coming for the hospital.

Yep, I believe.

And that may also be cause disconnected.

I guess.

Sure.

So I didn't know that until recently.

Yeah, I think he's got to be his new post in November.

Yeah.

So they're working with Billings Clinic to find an interim.

CEO.

Yeah.

They don't need lend you, so this city doesn't...

Yeah, not good timing.

That's that...

This will be 4 since I moved here.

Oh really?

CEOs, yeah.

Their average lifespan is 18 to 24 months.

And, you know, buildings clinic. is not doing any better.

Yeah. at a senior level.

They've been through at least 3 CEOs of the time I've been here.

And, uh, one under, uh, less than ethical.

Yeah, so I read that in the Gazette, yeah.

Uh-huh.

Yeah, so I have had radio silence, and I think so, yeah.

Yeah.

Yep.

Why that?

Yeah, it's close to Utah, but it's in Idaho.

Yep, there'll be a couple hours from family.

A bid's already been accepted, right?

Yeah, I mean, they're going to start construction on it as far as I know next spring.

Our portion of it with the infrastructure, I guess I assumed that that would need to be... done before they do too much.

Yeah, they want to get their elevations, right?

Yeah.

And since ours is so close that there's really no room for error on ours.

Yeah. unless they end up putting in their home pump station, but we're not going to maintain it.

Yeah.

I mean, lift station, lift, yeah, yeah.

Okay, well, maybe we'll have some info.

Our 1st October meeting.

Hold your breath.

Don't.

Doctor in the room says, don't hold your breath.

Yeah.

It's only fun for a minute.

Don't use your fingers, use a mirror.

I know Steve gave us a heads up on this, but you see on 2nd page, the bottom paragraph recommendation, throw those relief valves in or whatever, safety relief valves.

Seth and Brian knew about me.

I'm not going to speak for Greg and Nikki, but I'm like, yeah, I guess it makes sense, but you need to have one.

Oh, good.

Great.

Yeah.

Just call me if you need insurance on it.

Yes.

When it blows up.

Yeah, sure it wouldn't want them to explode.

Yeah.

Okay, well, Amendment to law enforcement agreement here.

And I think we did clarify the last time, which number 3 budget there.

Yep, I like to see that.

Yep.

So this is you and Logan have kind of blessed off on this on the legal side?

Like I said, it doesn't affect our obligations to the agreement, it'll stay the same.

This takes us through to December of next year.

remember?

Yeah.

Okay.

That's good.

Well, I got 2 emails and I threw away the 1st one and...

Yeah, because he said, I was just looking at that, disregard my last email.

Yeah, right at the top.

And that would be, in my mind, that would be good.

That gives you even more time to...

Yeah, this is she Sonya printed the last...

Well, I guess, let's see.

I have one on my phone dated October.

Oh, that was the 1st time.

Yeah, she printed the last one that I have that open said disregard.

So...

I think...

Yeah, it's the Section 14 on the third page has that it's, at the end of the first fiscal year, this agreement shall be renewed annually, you know, automatically, unless the city or county, so it'll be renewed annually at the conclusion of fiscal years unless we give them, um, notice in writing at least 60 days prior to, um, the rainbow.

Okay.

So just, and I guess, keep that in mind.

End of our fiscal year is at the end of June, fiscal year starts in July one.

So it'd be 16 days prior to...

Okay.

End of June.

We'd have to give them notice to not renew it for the next fiscal year.

So when the county wanted to stop it, were they...

They might have been 60 days from this August 17th, August 17th.

Well, as long as everybody's clear moving forward, and that's neither here nor there, but just, you know, it gives the impression that maybe not everybody's on the same page.

Yeah. specific to paragraph 14.

Yeah.

Do we want to continue or do we want to provide notice?

and be within the time frame.

So moved.

Second.

Okay, so most made and seconded to approve, that's agreement between the city and the county for consolidated law enforcement services, by establishment of a public safety commission.

Do I have any further discussion?

Okay, hearing none, all those in favor.

Okay, motion carries.

Um, so next item.

Okay, sub?

Subdivision.

There's a couple copies, Sonya, bring it up there.

Hard coffees.

So, right?

We keep coming back to the one circle.

Yeah.

Circle put in, I guess, voted in.

I mean, we wouldn't adopt. adopt it just exactly as they did it.

There would be some stuff we'd want to...

And I would have to review it to make sure none of it conflicts with our current ordinances, but I just, I would propose that as a template for us to use, I guess.

Yeah.

Um, versus this, you know, 30 to 40 thing.

And I mean, because I wanted to look at a city of a similar size 2 hours and they realized this was a relatively recent update for the last boom when they anticipated a lot of oil field construction.

Sure.

So, well, yeah, I mean, it sounds like this will be the best starting point.

So I guess we'll have to...

Um, I guess I don't know what should the 1st step be that the council goes through it or should you go through the takeout or stuff that you know won't work?

What's that?

Hope that sounds good.

So is that something we can get on there, this October 14th or something?

There might be something on there that he says, whoa, Yeah, I think it's the 14th.

Okay.

Okay.

Well, yeah.

Well, we'll propose to the zoning that they review circles and we make our changes to it and hopefully in short order.

They can come up with a good product and get it to us, maybe by, I mean, maybe they'll take them a couple meetings to go through it.

Yeah, it's kind of dense.

Maybe by December, January.

Because zoning kind of shuts down in the winter.

Yeah, for permits and stuff.

So a good time to review it.

So.

Okay, well, thanks for doing that research.

Okay, policy, record request here.

Sonia, do you want to kind of just start?

We don't.

So, Smith and I were just looking at a photograph, 100 pounds.

And it wasn't just go be getting, it was cities throughout the state were getting very similar requests as this, that it wasn't just us getting singled out.

It happens, I mean, yeah.

And by law, public right and home.

Yep, we are obligated to provide.

But some of the things, yeah, they were looking for, like, unclaimed checks or checks that haven't been cached, record of that.

We would have to get permission from each person with the outstanding amount before we release that.

So that specifically, you know, we would necessarily have to produce without the party's permission.

And that was kind of unusual, I thought, that they were, yeah.

So, should we need to vote to have, uh, you kind of draft up a request form?

Was it your...

Three quorks?

Should do 3 4s?

Oh, three quorks?

Yeah, I can't remember.

I like a simpler one.

Yeah, I remember the better.

Air lodge looks like it's pretty simple.

Yeah, there was deer lodging 34, maybe that we liked.

If you guys have thoughts on either one of those.

But I would basically just tweak that form to reflect.

Scobi.

And then we would have a resolution adopting our public records request form.

So, I would almost like to see an initial charge, because if we're if we're going to pay Sonia an hour or Sasha an hour to work on something like this, you know, that's, you know, that's 40 bucks or whatever.

You know, so so it only takes him an hour, a half hour.

Well, but is that fair to the city?

And I think the copies themselves, those costs are set by statute.

Mm-hmm.

Sure.

Yeah, that 3 forks once said staff type for 60 minutes no charge. and then each additional 60 minutes is $25 now.

Yeah.

So that's where I think we would have maybe...

If they're asking for something that's readily available, that kind of makes sense.

Yeah, for it, then.

Exactly.

Well, yeah, if you're taking them away from other duties.

I could do that for you then.

Yeah.

You said that, is there some boxes up there?

Oh, yeah.

That's where most of the old stuff's happening.

Exactly.

Yeah, so you just wasted your time for an hour.

Yeah.

Well, yeah.

So that's why we have we have this.

And then also, well, geez, we don't want to pay for. for that.

I agree.

You know, and again, we're doing this within the law, you know, they're setting this to us knowing we have to do it.

I mean, since we have to do it, we might as well make it worth the taxpayers.

Whatever.

Apparently, yeah, they're unclaimed property.

Sounds like a Czech cashing scheme to me.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, it looks pretty scary.

Yeah, I agree.

I wonder how God gets...

I know, okay?

Yeah.

We don't have to give out distribution list.

I was talking about that.

Everyone on it would have to give written approval from the city to release that information for distribution list specifically.

Yep.

Yeah, I think I'm not asking for it.

They're not going to cost them anything, no.

And this is another layer of protection weakening.

Yeah, for protecting. you know, our our taxpayers information.

So, um, I don't think we need to probably, do we need to vote to do this or can we just have you and Sonia?

Okay.

Would be what I would like to see again.

So we'll work on getting whatever form, city wants to use, and then some language with it, and then we'll approve and put that through a resolution.

So maybe that, I was thinking maybe Sonia, the hourly explanation of work from 3 Forks and adding that on to the deer lodge one was kind of, I was thinking, I'll send you a copy of it.

And then we could approve it at the next meeting. if that's okay.

I like it.

Oh, coming in, handbag.

Um...

Oh, so that'll be...

Okay.

So that'll be resolution one.

Okay.

Yeah.

Okay, so yeah, that up an agenda for that as well.

Okay.

Um.

Okay, public comment.

I see no public.

So we just hit a couple upcoming agenda items.

I guess I didn't, I must have missed this, but fall cleanup is going to be October 1st through the 16th.

So we're going to publish this.

We need to vote to publish this.

Yeah Oh, okay.

Oh, I just included that one.

Gotcha.

Okay.

I remember.

Okay.

Last item.

It's the content items.

I would entertain a motion to approve.

Sorry.

Second.

8, Nick, set.

Thank you.

The most maiden seconded, any discussion?

Hearing done, all those in favor.

I...

Okay, and at 9.35, I would entertain a motion to adjourn until October.

Something next, 13th.

Yeah, to move.fect.

So it's the 13.