I'll call the meeting to order.
Let's stand, state the pledge.
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America
and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God,
indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Okay, can we...
Gary says he does...
Should we do that? Can we do that?
You know, if we could...
We won't know until we know who the candidates are
and then see...
But I would think we could fit him in here in the next couple of days
at the end of Tuesday.
We should have three candidates interviewed
and be able to make a choice.
Can we put that at the bottom of the agenda for Tuesday?
I'd like the four o'clock time.
Sure.
Okay.
So that is the only correction or selection...
Four o'clock Tuesday?
Four o'clock Tuesday.
Selection of...
Commission.
Commission.
With that, I'll make a motion to approve the agenda.
Excuse me.
Motion has been made...
Second.
I second.
Motion has been made and seconded to approve the agenda as amended.
All those in favor?
Aye.
Any opposition?
No opposition.
The motion is carried.
We need to appoint you as the vice chair.
All right.
Good morning, Burl.
How do we go about that?
I guess you make a motion.
I make a motion.
I guess I really didn't know because there's not a second person.
I mean, if you can approve your own, you can approve your own, right?
That's why I set a point.
I didn't know what to put there.
Okay, I'll second it.
Okay.
All those in favor?
Say aye.
Aye.
Aye.
You could probably abstain.
Was that when it passed, though?
Yeah, it was one vote.
Yeah?
Yeah, it's true.
There's only the two of you.
Yeah, whatever.
I vote aye.
Okay, then on the same token, what if I say no?
Then you're tied.
Yeah, then you're tied.
Then we're screwed.
Well, I'm not a chairman.
You just make the down a point.
Yeah, I thought I did that.
That's why I put appoint commissioner in the vice chair.
Say, being you're in here, why don't you get up here
and we can hear you on the mic?
No.
I don't have a copy of the agenda.
That's why I wanted to have an extra one.
No, but I'll sit in front.
I'll just take a picture.
Okay.
Yeah.
So, okay.
Is that better?
No sitting in the back row, no more.
I'll sit in the back row.
I just wanted to see what the agenda is.
I know there's some heavy stuff coming in.
Well, you could have grabbed the one right off the courthouse.
Well, I don't want to take it off the window.
That's an official posting.
Yeah?
No.
I'll take a picture of it, but the glare and the glass.
The glare and the glass.
So, you had a good shift, too?
I had a good shift, too.
Happy anniversary, buddy.
Thank you.
You sound better.
You look like you feel better.
I didn't realize that was him.
In the favor?
Yeah, he looks pretty young.
Oh my gosh.
Did you have the picture?
Oh, I didn't have a look at the deal at all.
You saw the ad, so I assumed one of your kids.
Yeah.
All of them?
I didn't know, yeah.
Was it 45 years for you?
Mm-hmm.
Is that what I read in the paper?
I didn't know if the paper was a misprint or what.
Yeah.
The picture looked like it was a misprint.
You have to verify everything.
Yeah, it was 45, yeah.
45 years of heavenly bliss.
Sorry for making it, yeah.
I know you're being recorded.
That's why you say it.
I know.
If the wife is listening to that, she may make a call.
Well, I told everybody else that, but it's not what they tell her.
They're just kids.
Dros and I have been married for 50 years in August.
Nice.
Congrats.
Who the heck did I...
Who was it?
Yeah, a couple of people down at the museum grounds.
Been married longer.
Yeah, took my pills.
Yeah, I got a lot of them.
But mine are just vitamins.
Yeah, I'll make a motion to approve the minutes.
Okay, I had not looked at them.
I'll be honest, but you had looked at them.
I'm glad you threw them.
You've got me doing so much other stuff here.
Well, that's what happens when you get the big box.
You get the titles.
Okay.
You made a motion.
Yeah.
I'll second it.
All those in favor?
Aye.
Sign your copy.
Aye.
Any opposition?
Motion is carried.
Aye.
There is so much going on.
There's a solid waste meeting the other night,
and I asked Tom Hagen,
who had the funeral for him,
and he did sort of meeting.
I says, what would happen if somebody would,
on a motion, just not agree with it?
Would you be throwing off the meeting,
or off the boards?
I couldn't get off that way.
I suppose if you really want,
we could start a petition for you.
I'm on way too many boards.
Well, your paycheck reflects that.
I know it.
What do you mean?
See, all I did was 10 meetings this month.
Oh, I thought you made cash checks.
Yeah.
Well, you always make one community.
Okay.
We are now on the 9.15 public comments on,
or close to public comments on agenda.
I will recess for the moment.
It's 9.30, and we're reconvening
to approve payroll for June 2024.
I'll make a motion to approve payroll
for June 2024.
Is there a second?
Are you still looking, Gary?
This is when she went to last April,
or a year ago,
when she went to that Korma training.
So now they decided that we need to pay her for that.
We decided that, yeah.
That was decided.
The traveling.
That's traveling.
This is all on week,
so she traveled and she did her thing.
So you get to end up with overtime,
because she went over the 40-hour.
Darn, I didn't.
Gary, you said you read the help from John Buck.
Yeah.
The person who wants to put the concrete footings down,
the bridge comes in in one piece.
The person who's going to be doing this
came in with a bid,
a little bit higher than what the engineers
had thought and hoped for.
And the reason is,
they're hauling gravel from Glasgow.
Yeah, that's quite a steep bill.
See, that's what was happening to our solid waste program, too.
Hence, we need more gravel pits here.
And I don't know what the specifics are.
They need to crest up.
But I am going to suggest to John Buck
that is Stephen Norris,
no, Bucklin,
and Shar John.
John, you're right.
John and Shar Bucklin,
I believe are in control of that future pit.
And if we've got to pay the same amount
of someplace else,
I would like to suggest to him
that they make contact with them
because it would be a whole lot shorter hauling.
And having a conversation with somebody,
it's not the dollars' worth of gravel,
it's the transportation of it that's killing us.
Who's John Buck?
John Buck is our engineer from interstate engineering
out of his offices in Fort Peck.
He's originally from just Northwick Point.
But somebody said about maybe there's a state pit
up someplace that we can use.
Well, it was a state pit where they took the gravel from.
Is that the one they're talking about?
Or is there another one someplace?
No.
Well, there would be the one on Police Creek Grove,
our new one that I don't know
if it meets their standards,
you know, size of rock.
I see there is something written on this.
Is there something about that?
Yeah, I think he was going to suggest that.
But Bergeron has told me there appears to be
a little bit of a vein in there,
but they'd have to take a lot of overburden off
or topburden off to get to that vein.
On the other side, would you really gravel on flat acres?
Then we'd have to start a whole new pit.
Oh.
Yeah, we'd have to be registered and licensed
and all that, and that takes...
Yeah.
I don't know.
I've got all that 100 miles.
Yeah, that's, we've got to find a better solution
for that, I believe.
How about this one up east?
We've got plans on using that for the landfill.
Oh.
I don't know.
That's actually a pile of reject.
Right.
And it worked really well
when they were mixing up their own asphalt
for patching on the fearless highway.
We don't do that anymore
because the state of Montana is taking over that highway.
And when they do need some stuff,
they can get asphalt mixed in 50-pound sacks.
They can just order it from Procoop
and it comes in to go out and either to break it.
I don't even know if they do that.
I don't know.
I think they just put it in the hole
and drive over it, try and pack it.
Because that's what they did on the very end
of that fearless highway that the state won't take over.
And I drove down that road last weekend
and the big hole in the middle was filled.
So it done some work on that.
I know on Highway 13 right before the bridges,
they've got 15-mile or 18-mile bridge,
whatever it is, right in there.
There's some holes there.
They filled them in.
Two weeks later, they're going to allow it.
Well, you tell me.
They've let the Paulson Brothers bridges
serve for them now.
Those two now.
They're going to be ready to go on to the one.
There's some big holes.
They didn't stay.
Or something happened.
I suppose you can use those asphalt groundings
in the water over here.
Probably not.
That's nice gravel.
Well, that is the committed gravel, I'm sure.
But I was a little surprised, I think.
John Bach had to read that again,
but I think he said it's pushing the 1.5 million budget.
And I thought we were only getting 1.1.
Well, that was a difference in that gravel, wasn't it?
I don't know.
We'll have to ask that of John.
Because the structure of the bridge has already been big, right?
Right.
It's just the superstructure.
The superstructure is the superstructure of the top part.
Yeah.
It's been big and it's been in the building process right now.
What does that mean? Do you remember?
100 million.
No, 220 million.
For the bridge itself?
Yeah.
Just the bridge.
It was 200,000 something, I believe.
Do you got an email on this or text on this?
Where's all that money coming from?
MDT.
Most of it?
Yeah.
I have to go back, I don't know if I can find my old stuff.
Yeah, we get billed, we submit it to the state and then they send us a check.
They're paying for the whole thing though?
That's bridge related.
Like the bypass road, all of that, we had to pay.
Right, yeah.
And they were going to go up to 1.7 million.
I think it was 1....
We were told when it first happened a million and then I think it was 1.2.
And now it was interesting that the engineers said it was up a little bit to 1.5.
Maybe that's what it's going to cost if they get the gravel from long ways off.
And we've got to get underneath that.
I'm sure out here at the...
The bridge structure 210.
210.
Again, I was thinking...
Original grand money, 1.525.
Engineering 92.
Engineering...
Engineering construction 130.
Bridge structure procurement 210.
Is that what it came in at?
That's what they're doing it for.
That's already been accepted.
What was the first number you said?
1.525.
1.525.
And then the construction of it.
Okay, that's why we were over.
Estimated cost by contractor.
Revised construction amount is 1.38.
Estimated shortfall 290,000.
Maybe we should just send that message to you.
VP, don't call me here or see me.
I always forget about her, so I have no chance of that.
What's that?
VP, don't call me here or see me.
Nice for you all to upset you enough.
Carefully.
In case they have to eagle.
Take a picture of that, is that alright?
That's what I did.
I can see that.
Take a picture of your screen.
Picture of your picture.
Picture of a picture of a picture.
Okay.
I think you should have signed this twice.
Which one?
My check.
Your check?
Gary went to a lot of meetings.
Eight of them.
I never even seen them.
Wild or the amount.
I guess I didn't even look at it.
You probably got me a detail.
I don't.
I don't know.
You do.
Good job.
I got to buy dinner, I suppose.
Yeah?
To turn.
That's what I got to buy for.
Too solid waste, we need to break it in order to develop it.
I'll buy my gas.
You can cut that in.
Holy cow, Gary.
I know.
Oh my God, did you make it?
It's so damn heavy.
Not as heavy as you.
Well, I didn't fold it like an airplane.
Thank you.
Just give it to my wife.
But this John Bach is presenting a bid today.
He's...
Award.
A bid award.
Yeah, I guess we'll find out.
This is the email he sent me.
Okay, thank you.
I opened it up at home.
Oh, sure, he sent it to this Ryan Dahlke who's MDT.
A bid to have the contract...
Or due to the project, I do not believe the bid received is out of line
compared to the other.
The remoteness of the project is the primary factor in the release price.
This was confirmed by conversations with the contractor.
They are anticipating bringing all gadgets in concrete from Glasgow.
Here, maybe you want to see the whole...
All the summer people and then the cemetery board.
Well, that...
Judges.
And even Holland and Franklin's pay on the future pensions.
That was on 20.
But that's when...
They let you judge them.
So that makes it nice.
It might be 30.
So this estimated shortfall, where does that come from?
Us or MDT?
Because of price of gravel from the guy who pays for it.
If it ends up...
Well, it would be counties.
Counties don't have another 300 grand to come up with.
That's why we got to get it...
What was that?
If there's a shortfall on this, we have to pay the balance.
Right?
Yes.
That was known right from the beginning.
But wasn't he...
Then they were going to see if they would pick it up?
I thought something was said about that.
If it's...
I don't know.
Does it say that in that email?
I don't know if it says...
I don't think it does.
I think we are going to have to make some suggestions where we could.
Get some gravel closer by.
Maybe we should have drawn a mill levy.
For that too.
So they got...
And I'm not sure this K and K at Redstone, are they still functioning?
I've heard both.
I've heard rumor that it's not.
So can we have concrete and plywood?
At least that would be half the distance.
Yeah.
A little point.
So the original grant, 1.5, design, engineering, bridge structure procurement.
That's 2.10.5.
That's what's already happened.
Superstructure.
That's already been built.
Yep.
Bridge construction available.
That's one point.
So then bid construction...
Bid is 1.556.
So that would be the underside of the bridge.
What do you call that?
The piling sort of...
What the superstructure sits on it.
I wonder if I've got...
So this isn't necessarily a warning of bid today.
A warning of bid?
No, I don't...
It could be, but I think we're going to have to find some cost-cut savings, you know, getting some gravel closer.
So do we do all of our 930 stuff?
Yes.
The general voucher, the officer reports all of that?
Well, I did call for a motion and I made it to approve payroll.
Haven't got a second yet.
Yeah, we couldn't because I hadn't seen the claims.
And then I turned around and saw you were still looking at him, so I said, okay, we can wait.
I'll second that motion.
You're seconding my motion for the payroll.
All those in favor?
Say aye.
Aye.
Opposition?
Apparently not.
Journal vouchers?
Approved the journal vouchers as presented.
Motion?
Aye.
Second?
Aye.
We don't have any officer's reports?
Yes, you sign them all.
Oh, okay.
Officer reports assigned.
The correspondence, I guess it would be the only correspondence would be from John Bach, who is our 10 o'clock.
Right, and then...
Dan Clark can send the thing on this, but I think I have that later on the agenda, because we have to do a survey.
A survey?
Yeah, they want us to do a survey on this.
Local government review survey tomorrow at 11 o'clock, okay?
No.
So only one person filed so far for...
Yes.
That was for the county, not anything else.
Tell Wilson filed to be on the...
Tell?
Survey board for the county?
Yeah.
Yeah, we got to be having a very distinctly tell us which one they're doing, especially the people that live in the towns.
Right.
Because they could do both.
Right.
So...
I only know one other one that's interested for sure, but...
What were you looking at?
I was going to look up if I've got Buckwin's phone numbers, in case we could suggest that.
John Jay.
Taylor Fischol went on our health insurance, just like that.
I have, but it's an old number for John, do you have one?
Yeah.
Is it the 895-79029?
Yep.
And then is there an 895-472 as well?
No, I only have the one.
895-7029.
You say there's another one?
This could have been way back when we were playing baseball.
It was funny watching you do all that.
Well, you buy it to your own share.
Oh, I hope so.
And the people that come and get it here.
Well, I know I've used that before, so...
I'm watching you do all that.
Gee, I don't even dare to ask what the hell you're doing.
Yeah.
I have a lot of mail on me.
He's going to be calling in, by phone?
Should we...
He's probably going to call in to the 5561 number?
Yes.
No.
He should be calling in.
And this was sitting here.
This just showed up.
My knee's getting out of there.
I just might be getting up to hobble over there.
Just so you can get up to hobble over there.
You're going to see me get up and hobble out of here.
What the hell is happening to my knee?
Well, is it swollen up this morning?
Oh, yeah.
Me biting kind of...
Yeah.
It's so tight on these pants.
He can't even slide these pants up and down.
No.
Don't look at all the balls.
You're still recording, aren't you?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's on the record.
For the record, we're waiting for a 10 o'clock agenda item with John Bach.
I will recess until he calls.
We are reconvening a 10 o'clock appointment here with John Bach.
Interstate engineering is on the phone with us for a agenda item.
And John, it's Gary, and myself, and Christy,
and Burl from the Dennis County Leader is here.
So...
Good morning, everyone.
Yep.
You have the floor, sir.
Okay.
So we opened it for the Coltrane Bridge Project last Tuesday on the...
I guess that was the 25th.
We got one bid received for the head opening.
That was first sent to the company.
We did receive a second bid that sort of a day late.
It came to the commissioner's office or to the clerk's office.
And that arrived on Wednesday the 26th.
So that bid was not open, but it was returned to the contractor
without opening it at all.
Which is kind of standard practice for a business received late,
especially what in that case, being that late.
And the contractor that submitted that bid was on the phone with the...
during the bid opening, so they knew what the totals were.
So it's only fair to everyone that that bid would come in.
The bid came in at 1,556,762.
Shane Nelson, who's with Century Companies,
and that was the one bid that we received was from Century.
He was there, and he did say that there were some measures we could take
to reduce that to the county,
but it is outside of what we were looking at for the MDG grant
that they had for the budget that they had.
A couple of items that they offered to ease up on
were those primarily the gravel and the rip rap material,
which they anticipated bringing that out of Glasgow,
out of their pit just north of Glasgow.
So that the trucking was the major, major issue with that
as far as the driving cost up.
They did say that they could, if they were allowed to use the gravel
that was at the county's tip, right adjacent to the bridge there,
that the county just opened up again through the state of state land
that they would have significant lower prices.
So Shane did look into those.
The three major items are on the big tab,
and I believe I sent you that big tab last week.
You did?
We're under 115, which is a pre-gen backbill,
which basically lowers the price by $70,000
from a unit price of $123 down to $44.
The next one was the aggregate base course,
which was originally at $124.
That lowered to $38 for a savings of $40,000.
And then they have some rip rap material
that is in a quite MBT, doesn't mean MBT spec,
but it does meet our spec or mark.
Hydrologist has looked at it, and he is fine using that.
It's not a fractured material, but it is anywhere,
so it would lock together fairly well still.
The reason we don't want to use rattle rock
or regular field rock is that in a big storm event,
that will actually roll and scowl it out,
and then you don't have any scowl protection.
The field rock that they find does have a lot of
angularity to it, and it looks,
by our hydrologist, it looks like it would
lock together fairly well as well.
That is the savings of about $100,
and let me check out my numbers right now.
$173,000.
The other item that they mentioned
was the structure removal.
If the county wanted to perform that item themselves,
they said they would be fine with that.
The only caveat of that one is that they would request
it done by August 19th when they plan on starting up there.
That would obviously move their schedule ahead slightly.
I think they probably had 3-4 days in there
for structure removal, so they could get that part
of the project in and focus more on this,
grabbing the pile and things like that.
That's their bit for the structure removal,
which is $50,000.
In my email to Ryan Dahlke,
I gave him $10,000,000.
Looking at the numbers,
the original grand amount was $1,525,000
from MVP of that engineering
that was approximately trying to begin to do the math
in my head here, so excuse me if I'm wrong,
but you'll probably have $222,000
with the construction engineering having it in there as well,
and then the county spent $210,500
on the bridge structure itself.
That leaves us as a dating into account
where you're at currently,
and with the savings by the contractor,
the estimated shortfall would be $290,952.
I did send that to Ryan Dahlke.
He did respond this morning just asking
if there wasn't one hit received,
and I did reply to his emails confirming that it was,
and I let him know about the other contractors
that did commit a hit that was late.
He didn't give me any more feedback
as far as if that grand amount from the state
is amendable or anything like that,
and I figure if you guys,
I know you've visited with him more
on the funding end of it to the past.
Right.
John, yeah, I got your email,
and I got it in front of me now.
We were thinking, okay,
we would at number one,
I guess if the county was to demolish,
I don't know, we got to talk to our road superintendent.
I'm not entirely sure myself
that we would have the type of equipment
that we might need to do that,
and their time,
we would have to see if, you know,
hey guys, can we schedule this in?
That's a possibility,
and we'll have to have that conversation.
My biggest concern,
and I offer a suggestion,
is the gravel,
and right south of Skoby,
my neck of the woods there,
the future has pit,
and it's now in control,
I believe, by John and Shar Bucklin,
and there is quite a bit of gravel out there,
and quite a bit of different kinds of gravel,
and graves and stuff,
and that would definitely shorten up
the transportation side of it,
if we could get to talking with them
and make a deal with them.
Is that a possibility with you,
in this contractor?
I guess I'll speak for myself first.
Yeah, we would be fine with that.
The reason, obviously,
the contractor was looking at that pit right there,
right by the bridge that was opened up,
so the material that they price
is a non-destruction material.
Basically, it had run material,
which is what is in that pit right there
that they could use,
the famous pit.
I guess my thought was to be,
so if they were to use that,
the county would not be purchasing the gravel,
or if there is a contractor
would not be purchasing the gravel from that,
and basically, it's the county's gravel right now,
so they'd be using that,
so that $38 and $44
is basically the price to place and compact
and get that gravel in place.
Okay.
Obviously, they do have the cost of a loader there
and truck and stuff,
the place from the pit to the end of the bridge.
I think that would be the most reasonable,
right, and approach century on that
if they would be interested
in looking into that future pit.
Okay.
But they still are hauling gravel from Glasgow?
But the only gravel they're hauling from Glasgow
would be the Ager, or the, I'm sorry, the...
Ripwrap?
Some of the Ripwrap would be from there
and the crushed surface course,
and that's not gravel.
The crushed gravel, they had $135 in it,
and I did not adjust that, that dollar amount,
which that's only about 300 yards,
so that's basically just the surfacing for the loader.
Okay.
Now, we've had conversations with Bertrand,
and there's...
the gravel's kind of running out of that pit, okay?
He says he thinks there is a pretty fine vein in there.
It's not too thick, but he says it was...
there's a lot of overburden to get to it,
and he says it ain't very much.
We're kind of wondering if maybe we could use
some of the gravel, that same gravel,
that we used to build the detour.
And we did have that gravel in there,
that's considered in this pit under a basement.
Okay.
Yep, we had them pulling that gravel out of the bypass, basically,
and using that as the basement material.
Okay, so when this process, if that would be the case,
and this process starts,
we would have to reroute traffic
if they're going to start using the detour gravel
to help construct the ends and the fillings stuff.
Correct?
Correct.
Okay.
Okay.
Is it possible for this contractor
to have a conversation with Bertrand
to get his opinion of what might possibly be left
and to know how...
what did Mike say they used?
They only used 3,000.
They only used 3,000 yards for that road,
and of course we paid for... had to pay for...
10,000.
Yeah, 10,000.
So they were only...
so per the plan quantities,
we're only looking at about 1,500 more yards.
Oh, well then you see, I don't know what...
the road boss, Bertrand,
what he thinks is left in that pit.
And the sentry representative
that they worked with is their project manager,
his name is Shane Nelson.
He did go up and visit that pit up there,
and bridge as well when they were getting in.
Okay.
So I think he's got a pretty good idea
of what is available there,
but I can sure give him the Bertrand number
and they can just get the pit.
If Michael doesn't think there's a...
there's actually a route up there,
they can just touch that.
Right.
But he was up there and took a look at it.
I think he spent about half a day up there
looking around and whatnot.
Okay.
Well, that's good.
Yeah, we appreciate that.
But we're still short,
unless the state will help us.
Be not short.
Okay.
Okay.
And so is Mr. Dahlke,
is he the one that needs to be in the loop on that
or try and see if the state will kick in some more
to help us out with this?
Yes, he is the one.
I sent him that email on Friday there
with the cost breakdown.
That email was dragged in again
so he knows what the shortfall is
and whatnot.
But he didn't respond this morning,
but he didn't get the indication
of additional funding or anything.
And that's why I thought it was kind of like
you guys pass that out
because the agreement is between you guys and the state.
Right.
Right.
Right.
But I just want everyone to be on the same page
and everyone to be informed on where we're at
and dollar by it and things like that.
Right.
Well, and I appreciate, yeah,
we all need to be on the same page.
Is it proper and that you would approach him
on our behalf to ask that of him?
Or can you tell him if he needs to talk to us
to try and get rid of this shortfall?
You know, how we could have a conversation?
Yeah, I would be happy to approach him about it again.
You know, I think maybe the best way,
if you guys, I don't know what his schedule is,
I haven't talked to him in person.
I've been on the emails,
but this week before,
we could just jump on a conference call
to a quick understanding what his schedule is
and everyone would be present.
I think you'd probably be the best on that.
Sure.
And so we've got today and tomorrow for this week
and then we're done for the week
and we do have some openings tomorrow
and we do have a couple openings today.
We were hoping to get a commissioner candidate interviews.
We are appointing a candidate and have three,
I believe we have three selections
and so we were trying to fill in our agenda accordingly,
but absolutely if we could make contact with him
and have a conversation this week,
you know, it would help to keep things moving.
Sure.
Sure.
Okay.
Well, let me reach out to,
reach out to Ryan and see if he can meet.
Would he send the gift on the agenda or the award
to make sure he's open to allowing the recommendation
of award to sentry,
pending funding from MVB
just so we don't have to wait for another meeting
for that to do that action.
Commissioner Linder.
I have no problem, is it?
Gary says he has no problem with it.
How about you, Kristi?
I have an honor.
Yeah.
I hate to do something that might end up costing us
$300,000 more than what we got, but I guess.
Okay.
And that's what I think is that we can continue
upon MVB having additional funding
and providing additional funding.
Right.
Well, you know, they've been really gracious.
I think when they started, it was only at a million.
Right.
The first, the first talk and now it's 1.5
and now we need another $300,000 to make it.
We did compare, you know, big prices
from previous jobs that we've done
and century fifth didn't seem out of line.
The big cost item was the concrete.
Obviously, on this one, it was $2,650 a yard.
And as they said, the big portion of that
is giving it up here.
You know, they were a little bit concerned about
basically getting it from Glasgow all the way,
you know, with, and obviously, I'm pretty sure
they want to stick with bringing it out of Glasgow
as opposed to, say, Plentywood or anything like that
because that is a, it's faucet down here
but it's a century company.
Right.
Right.
Part of their deal.
Right.
And we've had pretty good luck with their concrete anyway.
Right.
And I knew that and I figured, well,
they want to sell their own gravel.
They want to sell their own riprap.
They want to sell their own concrete.
And I understand that and I'm going to ask them,
you know, to consider doing anybody else,
except for the fact that maybe we can find
some gravel sources that would be a little closer
maybe if it meets their specs and requirements.
But if it's only pit run is what you need.
And if we do have enough up there,
especially if we can be taking up the detour road
to use that,
that would, you know, definitely be a savings there
and it, you know, real handy.
Right.
So I guess, and then the other savings would be
county deconstruct the bridge.
And like I say, you know, it seems to me
you're going to need an excavator or something.
I don't think a backhoe.
I don't know if the backhoe we got would, you know,
be suffice.
And I talked to somebody the other Friday night
or Saturday night at the fordutes and they said,
yeah, well, they're going to have to clean out
a lot of weeds underneath that bridge because
thistles or whatever have blown from over the countryside
and it's plumb full of weeds in there.
Maybe they could just torch it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, we're recording this anyway, John, so it's been heard.
Can I ask you a question?
Yes, you may.
Does that $290,000 shortfall take into account
that the county is tearing out that bridge
for a $50,000 savings?
And does it count taking into account
that you're still going to get most of the gravel
from the county pit?
Yes, it does.
So it includes the, in our plan, in the planning scenario
there's revised price for, it was revised on the bridge
and backfill of a bridge, of course,
which both hit run, it's from $123 a yard,
$14 a yard and $124 a yard and $38 a yard
just because of the way they have to place that
and things like that.
I guess what I'm saying is if the county
can't remove the bridge and you can't use the county pit,
the shortfall is considerably higher then.
Yeah.
Okay.
So I think when we bring that up here and just add it.
So it would be...
Okay.
So yeah, let's go ahead and get on this.
We took the pit just as expected.
Thanks.
The county not doing anything
and the pit prices that were submitted,
they would be about $464,000 short
and change to $464,262 to be exact.
Well, it seems to me we're going to have to try
and do it then, but we're going to have to have...
Gary just made a comment that in order to maybe demolish
that bridge, we're probably going to have to hire a local contractor
who does have a excavator.
I think they could probably do it with that
if we can get him to fit in the schedule.
So that's going to be a cost to the county,
but it certainly wouldn't be $50,000 to do that.
If we could save $50,000 and cost us ten or whatever,
I guess that's kind of our situation, our problem.
And hauling it away?
Hauling it away, yeah.
I think as far as from the county's aspect,
there are still some decent bridge timbers
and things like that on that bridge
that can be salvaged by the county.
Sure.
Take it up to that railroad.
The one way up in...
Yeah, I don't know if it would work at the flat-car railroad ones,
but the other one up by the old spear ranch
and renters have it now.
There's a little bridge up there that needs...
Well, they put a new deck on a few years ago.
Craig did that, but the beams underneath it were not good
and it is at the district meetings.
I had a conversation with Gregory Benjamin,
who's on this bridge project.
You know, he's with Stahl Engineering
and they have this quick fix plan
and if you can do something like put extra beams,
stringers underneath the bridge
that would increase the load rating,
there's some possibilities of grants for that also.
And maybe those materials could be used
up there to improve on that other bridge
that I believe it's a three-ton,
it might be a five-ton limit on it,
but if you put some more stringers underneath it,
it would definitely make an improvement.
So yeah, that's something we'd need to look at
and work with possibly.
What do we want to do, Gary?
We've got to keep the ball rolling here, don't we?
Well, we can't come up here and just borrow some money.
I did just send Ryan's email reaching out to him
to see if he would be available,
so hopefully he gets back to me in fairly short order
and then we can schedule something.
I'll be talking to you on that email as well.
The commission, Daniels County?
Yes.
Okay.
And, or Christy, too?
Yes, I sent it to Christy and both of Gary and Gary.
Oh, okay.
Well, I'm glad you sent it to Christy
because she'll get it before Gary and I do.
Yeah, my computer's at the farm, so...
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Anyway, so do we need a motion to accept this?
Yeah, just a motion to approve pending available funding.
Yeah.
Gary's moved it.
I'll second it.
All those in favor?
Aye.
Aye.
That motion has been passed.
John?
Okay.
Well, I thank you and I will be in contact
with you if I hear anything back from Ryan here.
Cool.
Thank you so much.
Revised construction amount that you approved?
Yes, revised construction amount.
Being, uh, help, more help from the state or whatever.
Right?
Yep.
Okay.
So I went by the three.
I was just worried about pending available funding.
Pending available funding.
Yeah, sounds good.
All right.
Okay.
Thank you very much.
Do you have any questions?
Give me a call.
We will.
You know what's going on.
Yeah, you too.
Move it.
Holy shit.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, we're recording.
Somebody's got to listen to hear it.
Yeah.
Exactly the point.
We think we're recording last week.
We weren't.
With money like this, that's a damn good word.
Okay.
We are at 1030 and County Attorney Logan Olson is present and we're waiting for somebody
to bring us some bids.
Say this second time you called me.
I was in Canada and I didn't get it in Dell.
Sure.
So, and then I tried calling you yesterday or when you...
We'll recess for the moment.
Okay.
We are back again and it's the 1030 agenda item.
We have a list of Republican candidates to replace the vacant position.
Okay.
June 25th, 2024, Daniels, Tony commissioners, Michael one and Gary Linder.
The 2024 voting members of the Daniels County Republican Central Committee met this evening
and are submitting the following three names as potential appointees for district number
one.
That's right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Leanna Handren, Matt Stenoff, Mike Theven.
All three individuals have committed to serving in this position of selected.
Daniels County Central Committee, Curtis Vladigarh chairman signed by Curtis Vladigarh.
What's our next step?
I see at the 11 o'clock we have discussion on names submitted by Republican party and
set up interviews for possible open times.
So, we got from now until lunch according to the agenda to so move.
Okay.
So, also being sure to talk about that.
Sean Low called.
She'd like to change her meeting time closer to one sheriff.
Low comes in.
Okay.
So, if you.
Scratch her at 115.
Yeah.
I don't know if you can get anybody in here at 115.
I mean, that's rather rapid.
Right.
I'm just throwing that out there in case we want to move her to the like 230 or something
or 330 or something.
I haven't talked to her.
Okay.
I just know she called.
And it would make sense to me they worked together and we should put them together.
Well, that's the times they chose.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Well, they need to communicate better.
Right.
Right.
Okay.
We will have to mention that to them.
Okay.
Yeah, I don't have an issue with Sean coming later, but that is.
So, that just may take up one of our three o'clock open times or something.
Right.
Um, I can't imagine 15 minutes for an interview for each 20 minutes.
You guys are going to come up to one.
Well, I do.
The only question I have to ask is, are you willing to dedicate the time that it's going
to take to perform this job?
And do you realize, do you know what, how much time it might take other than the three meetings
that we have a month?
There are.
My question is why you want to be a commission.
There's a good one.
Must be losing their marbles like you guys.
Yeah.
Well, I've been here plenty of time and I'm just wondering why they want to.
Yeah.
I'm curious what their agenda is to become a commission.
Do you think they have agendas?
Don't you all?
I didn't.
You don't?
Other than I wanted somebody in my district out in our way to run instead of a local
school guy.
I was asked to run.
Well, yeah, you were a little bit.
Yeah.
Your situation was different.
I've been down in the agenda.
I know the situation.
Just to serve the county.
You got the job done, didn't you?
He was also part of it.
My only advice from my office is to, you know, get the next person appointed as soon as
possible.
That's, and I asked the question right away this morning.
I said, we kind of amended our agenda so that at the end of tomorrow, we could make
a selection according to if we can get them in here in time to do interview.
Unless you're asking for three more.
You have that option if you don't like it.
Sure.
Sure.
There's that.
Sure.
So you try to interview them today.
Yeah.
Today and tomorrow so that we could possibly make a selection before the end of business
on Tuesday.
I guess we should have asked Nancy.
I'm pretty sure there was about three or four more.
But I don't know if they were asked if they would serve or not.
I believe there was maybe somebody who called and said I would like to be on the list.
They've made their commitment already.
These three have committed or said they're willing to central committee.
Am I mistaken?
Is this Leanna?
Is she on a board and a hospital board?
No, she's off.
Oh, okay.
She was on the hospital district.
District.
Well, he can't be on, because we got off of a board, I think, when he got appointed.
Right.
Yeah, you could be on something so long as it doesn't have a conflict in the district.
May.
Yeah.
But like if somebody was on the school board, you wouldn't be precluded necessarily.
Yeah, kind of a case by case thing.
So, I guess you guys are going to try and get in touch with these folks.
Yes.
I think of my dad, Max, and...
I do, if you don't.
I might have Leanna's, too.
I have all three of them, if you call them.
I got such a small phone book.
See, I was bothering me a little bit when you were the one in charge setting that phone up.
I have a match.
Okay, you have it.
I don't have Leanna's, no.
So, Sean said coming in at 3.30 is enough time for a quick...
Good.
Good.
3.30 is okay.
I don't know if you want to give anybody a number at 1.15 if you're ready for them.
You don't know, Michael.
I don't know about Leanna.
I don't know.
We could always call the store.
I'm sure that's where she's probably at.
Yeah, Mike.
David?
Yep.
Matt.
He's knocking everything over.
He's so annoying.
Hello, this is Matt.
I'm really sorry I missed you.
Clean through the message and I'll try to get back to you as soon as I can.
Thanks.
Please leave your message after the town.
Matt, it's Michael P.
Your name has been presented to the commissioners as a possible candidate replacement.
We would like to have you come in and visit with us today or tomorrow.
We have some openings.
Please call me back 783-8076 so we can connect.
Thank you.
Hopefully you don't have a bunch of people already left for the lake.
Yeah, exactly.
Matt probably goes back and forth between here and Coverson.
They just opened an office.
Oh, I didn't know that.
Freud.
Freud.
He has an office in Coverson.
He's opening one up in Freud.
I didn't know about that.
The insurance company there closes their doors.
Oh, well.
That's what I was told.
I can't remember who even told me that.
Yeah, it's been a little while that they opened that one at Coverson.
Yeah.
This is Leanna.
Hi Leanna.
Michael P. here.
Hi.
Your name has been presented as a commissioner candidate.
You sound like you're on the road.
I am on the road, but I'm not driving.
Oh, well, are you available today or tomorrow to come in for a visit?
Oh, Matt.
We are literally just driving up to the depot.
We're going on the train to go see our guard for the week.
Okay.
You can do it over the phone though.
And I should probably go over the phone or, you know, FaceTime or whatever.
Yeah.
But if you're getting on the train, when is...
We'll be out there tonight so I can certainly make it.
Tomorrow sometime would be better, do you think?
Yep.
Yep.
Yep.
We're going to do the 115 tomorrow.
Okay.
That sounds good.
You want to call me?
Yeah.
We'll call the cell number.
Is that okay?
Is that okay?
Good.
Thank you.
Yep.
Thank you for calling.
You bet.
Bye for now.
Bye.
Okay.
Bye-bye.
I mean...
I know we have enough to cover 500 yards, but we had a pretty big stock pile of it left out there.
Total number.
We would use the measurements and figuring it out.
And all that helps this project for us.
You know what I mean?
It's already money we spent.
Yeah.
It's going to a good project.
Well, we're in the middle of it and we've got to finish it.
It's important.
You know, you can't...
We still have a little bit left on...
We have a little pile left.
It's not that much.
Maybe 150 yards or something like that.
But out of that, a digging spit.
We have to get this some point, but...
No.
Did I get crushed?
Yeah.
There's still a little pile of ours left out there.
And as far as that digging spit, if we got that out of there, I'd love to sign that right back over to him.
Get his name on there.
So ours isn't on there because I think Craig said he wanted something like $5 a yard or something
for that new agreement and not quite in the position to do that one.
So get our gravel out of there and let it go, basically?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I would just sign it right back over to him and we're done with it.
Yeah.
As long as it's still under our name, we're still responsible for the pit itself in general,
like reclaiming it.
You know, if it's in his name, the state's not really going to fuss with the farmer too much about what he's doing with his land.
It would just alleviate that concern of it.
Yeah.
Well, maybe they should be aware, let's take that first because that's even shorter yet, distance.
And if it benefits you to be done with the pit and...
Us.
Yeah.
We're done with it, we're done with it.
He's been mining and loading out of there, but if we could just sign it back over to him,
I think that would be in our best interest if he's done with our use of it.
Okay.
So, discussion about the two people and in the discussion kind of has gone to, if we could
hire one and maybe use the other one as a part time.
I took that road last week and a week ago down to North Nashua and I went to Hell Creek.
I went down Peerless Road and I thought, I'm going to not go Peerless South all the way.
I'm going to check out.
I wanted to get over towards Edwin Miner's homestead just to see what it was because he's
in the very, very corner, I believe.
Yeah.
And I got over to Hell Creek and I went down Hell Creek and when Hell Creek crossed,
I'm glad I had my GPS in my pickup mic because there's no road signs down there.
Okay.
And part time help.
I mean, if we had other things for him to do, fine, but it might be an opportunity to
maybe get some signs up.
Sure.
Because I didn't know where I was.
Okay.
And I ended up, I wanted to get over towards Edwin's, but I ended up getting Osset Road.
I ended up on Osset Road, which is a Valley County Road, right?
Yeah, half of it's ours.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But they don't match up either, do they?
To be honest, I'm unfamiliar with that corner of the county.
I'm not down there all that often.
Yeah.
I don't think they match up.
Our Osset Road is up here.
I think if you go down a mile, their Osset Road is miles south of ours.
I believe.
Okay.
I believe.
I don't know that.
So I'm just saying, you know, part time help would, you've got plenty of other things for
him to do.
So if you're talking part time, you're meaning more like seasonal full time.
You're not only going to have him work five-hour days.
Right.
Or maybe ten-hour days for a shorter period.
Is that, is that, is my thought?
Well, how does that work for you?
Well, that'd be fine, especially this fall coming up with these projects lining up.
My concern was keeping the mowing done.
I really don't want to fall behind on that.
And yeah, if I can keep the mowers going and the rest of the crew after these projects,
I think that'll work out pretty well in the end.
There'll be two people on that, then I'll have five more for whatever projects come up.
Right.
And I believe on the solid waste one.
My understanding is I'm just going to be responsible for the ripping here.
I'm going to be removing the soil from the road.
Then there, there are going to be materials going to be hauled in.
I just have to have a blade operator out there to spread it.
That's more or less it.
Okay.
Because I think canning is just going to do the grappling.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And they're, they're hauling it and then we're spreading it with our mortars.
You know, after a factor, we were wondering if they could haul that, you know,
we have out there that reject stuff, use up some of that.
Sure.
And canning would probably take care of that.
Okay.
Moose, yeah.
Right now I only have one truck available to me.
I've got, the other one's operable, but I've got cracks in the frame of the trailer.
It's inoperable until it gets fixed.
And then it's probably bouncing on the roads and only so long until an extract comes in.
So.
No, I think we were just talking about the road crew building that road.
Okay.
Yeah.
But yeah, me sitting on the scrape because I don't really have anybody else trained up
on that scraper kind of land on me to do it.
And I could knock it out not too terribly long.
I'm kind of ready to go now.
I just need to know where they want that road at.
And I can start scraping right away.
You got the map.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Is this, well, I got one down in the office and gave it to me yesterday.
Yeah.
Is that kind of the final draft?
Is that what we're going with?
Yeah, it is.
Okay.
All right.
After our meeting here, I was going to go stack the old cars down there and get that
taken care of and done with.
And then I might be able to start on the scraping bit of it early as next week.
Oh.
Provided.
Everything's good to go.
You're anxious to get on that scraper, aren't you?
Yeah.
Not really.
If I get it done right away, it's one less thing to worry about.
I thought you were going to have fun.
I thought it was a fun thing.
It's better now that I fixed the seat in there, but it can be a rough, rough ride or something.
That's what you're saying.
Yeah.
When do I set up the interviews?
What do we do?
Just being you've talked to him, you're just going to pick one to hire or what do you want to do?
I haven't gotten ahold of the Colton Nelson yet, but as previously mentioned, he might
take on that part time for a while until he finds a full time.
I can try and get ahold of him.
Mahal, would you guys be interested in having an interview, formal thing, or would you find
with just phone calls?
I think if you think they're good.
Okay.
But they both have to go background checks.
They both have to do driving checks.
And if you're not going to make one, we usually do pre-employment drug testing on them.
Oh, so both of them would be due for that, right?
Sure.
Well, because yeah, because in lecturing, you might like one over the other, the other
one might quit, and then the other one could go ahead.
I mean, you don't know.
Yeah.
It's better to do it on everybody, I think.
Sure, sure.
Well, I can call him up and explain the whole thing.
Well, I don't think we have to sit here and interview.
Okay.
That's up to you guys.
I mean, that's the way I feel about it.
I mean, if you, I mean, I'm looking at, if you do the interviewing, he basically, you
know.
All right.
I guess I will try again to contact Colton.
Garrett seems pretty available and be able to get a hold of him.
And when would be the best time like to get the ball rolling on that as far as getting
there?
Well, as soon as you tell me if they're both interested or just this one isn't or whatever
one, I'm assuming you want to hire this one full time.
Garrett.
Yeah.
Garrett.
There's a start by his name.
Yeah.
Where?
She don't have that.
I'll start by his name.
Yes.
What is their starting weight just going to be at?
Like, I believe.
We don't know because we haven't set the new rates yet, but hey.
Holy cow.
Yeah.
That was the papers I have in there.
This is just bullet points.
I want to make sure I brought up and then equipment usage on one side.
And I think there on the back is just where we put out the gravel this quarter.
I decided to go through and do all the quarterly payments for materials.
So I figured throw the information in there for you all to review.
But yeah, the septic tank.
We just had a pump last week.
As mentioned in here, 350 to 500.
His last two bills.
September 6th.
We got a pump last fall.
It was $582.
January 26th.
We had a pump again.
That was $765.
And yeah, mileage in there, $315 for mileage, another $132 on that first one.
But yeah, I'm going to start adding up here.
Another one.
Northeastern septic service, they're out of plenty of it.
Yes.
Have you ever, are you aware of any other septic pumpers?
No, that's when Craig had dug up and that's just the gentleman I continued using.
Okay.
What the hell is his name?
I got to use the guy at a both point.
$350.
Yeah, so he stopped at his first price, $350.
And is that just for the, or is that $350 all together?
All together?
Yeah.
Okay, so beginning full-time, the permanent full-time person, it's $20.37.
But we're getting this $1.25 possibly raised, so that might be going up.
And that, the 2037 is for the full-time?
Beginning full-time.
And then your part-time temporary person starts at $18.58.
Plus.
But then if we get our, if we go with the $1.25.
Okay.
Which we don't know for sure.
We haven't had anything like that.
That would be 1983.
I like that thing.
Thank you.
Yeah, I told him you were whining that you wanted one.
Scott Taylor.
Wolf Point.
That's his number.
And he doesn't necessarily charge mileage because he tries to group people.
He comes up here in the fall.
That's what he was trying to do.
But every three months, we're a little bit more frequent than a lot of people are.
And that's kind of what ends up getting us on that.
Yeah, because you're paying his mileage.
I want her to give this guy a call and see what he would bid you or quote you at.
Or.
Sceptic tank pumping.
Because that seems, yeah.
Well, yeah, normally they do split the mileage up with other customers.
But when you're the only one, then they, you pay it all.
And like, I think that one in January, that he had a winter fee.
He's got the insulated heated truck or whatever.
Yeah, nobody else on, nobody else called, but we were up to the brim.
And then the other numbers that had written in there, like had Marley stop by.
Every time northeastern Sceptic's been up there and he's vacuumed that stuff out,
he's sucking up gravel.
So the tanks probably got a fracture crack in it.
And then we know the drain fields collapsed or done for anyway.
So he gave me a number of roughly 25,000 getting the whole job done and said out of the way.
But then again, investing in an old building, you know.
So I just figured I'd bring those numbers up, put them in front of y'all.
And then we're aware on all ends.
That's throw the stuff to get in the new drain field?
Mm-hmm.
And it's kind of a hassle to have to keep pumping it because the drain field's not fixed or an issue.
And I get it, you know, but wouldn't it be nice if somewhere down the road we could have a new facility with a...
Oh, I'm with you all the way.
Yeah, I'm sure you are.
Yeah, but...
So can you put up with this quarterly pumping of the Sceptic tank for another 10 years before we...
Well, just a number, $1,000 every...
So $4,000 every year.
So 10 years would be $40,000.
So halfway mark who might be cheaper going the full revamp, you know.
Yeah.
But that's the whole deal.
Yeah, well like you said, you know, to have it functioning in that old building is, you know, not the objective.
I don't know what else we do.
It'd be nice to get a trench over to the elevator's pumping ground to get on the city.
Oh, yeah.
That'd be a hell of a lot cheaper, $25,000 or anything.
Well, I think the thing I was told the city needs to put in a pumping station, the elevation change, getting it over the hill to the rest of the stuff.
And I have no idea what's happening on their side as far as this pumping station thing ever coming to fruition.
But that would be nice.
It definitely would be, but...
Does raw plot have a septic system on his end?
It's not in town either?
I'd have to go bug him and ask.
I think he does, but I'm not sure.
Because then the curling rink used to be there and there were bathrooms in the curling rink too.
Right.
And I didn't know whether...
I'd have to go inquire upon.
Yeah, interesting.
But, no, that was the bullet point on that one.
So, my person would like to do his little things to give you, little binders.
Like if you could just combine them each month.
Sure, yeah.
Oh, do you want this back?
Oh, just so I can reuse them. I didn't know if I could reuse them or if I need to go buy a bunch of them.
No, that makes sense.
Because here's...
Hey, this is going towards the bridge.
Or the septic tape.
Well, he asked me if you guys were still using them and I said while your stuff was still in them, but I think they could combine them.
Sure.
Here's the road binding.
He's too shy to ask, so...
I'll just...
Thank you.
Are you going to the Solange Waste Project?
Yeah.
We'll split it 50-50.
He could have kept one.
No, I ain't no.
If he wants one, he can have them all.
Let him worry about it, hanging on to them.
We appreciate it when we get them.
And the culvert order.
I'm just trying to bring my numbers and stock back up.
I have one length of 30-foot, 4-foot in diameter pipe.
And that's the majority of the order right now.
And they can't put that pipe inside of another pipe and bring a whole stack of it up.
I can call around and see what the other counties are getting there, shipped up, and maybe get some of ours on their orders and cut down on that shipping cost a little bit.
I think he told me it's going to be like four trips, three trips or something like that when I got the price quote for the shipping costs on here.
So that 10,000 is four different trips?
Mm-hmm.
What was your estimated number for all of that?
I was going to ask you guys about it before I left.
God, I don't know.
Did he get it or not?
What?
Oh, Scott Succeed.
Uh, grab some pipe and uh, yeah.
Um, anywho, and uh, yeah, we finished Felix's uh, Felix's road down there for him.
Uh, figure we got three and a half to four inches of gravel on that mile stretch of road.
We moved uh, 1600 yards and we're calling our good.
We're packed up and out of that area so we should be, he should be set in and out of there no matter the weather.
Good.
Well, it hasn't really rained yet either so I guess we'll have to wait for it.
We'll talk to Tom Hagensey with the engineers so as to what you start up next week.
Okay.
Yeah, um, yeah, more or less I'm ready to go here.
I was thinking at some point we could go in this month.
A lot of pretty good jump on things.
Because our engineer was going to do some for uh, staking for that.
Mm-hmm.
Station.
Yeah, and uh, Mike was down there.
Said he's starting uh, August or something putting that all together.
August 15th, I think.
Yeah, some, some are on down the road.
But yeah, I just had free time and I, I could get that started here before uh, August or whatnot.
So I might be able to get after it.
What's these uh, fairgrounds?
Use of common equipment.
Oh, yeah.
Uh, they wanted me to dig a hole for them so they could burn the old um, stage and hold about two feet deep.
I just didn't know if it was a thing if we could uh, put the payloader down there to dig a hole for them or whatnot.
And then they asked about getting some uh, hauling the loaded material out there to fill some potholes on that access trail they have in the back.
To the water stations?
Nope, it would be uh, the one that runs behind the arena.
Yeah.
Yeah, I guess he's uh, Joe Cromwell asked me about it.
Some big old mud hole he wants to try and get filled up.
Uh, I didn't know if there was something that we couldn't uh, use county stuff over there or not so I figured I'd put it forth and ask.
It's county?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's kind of where I was on.
Do you build the fairgrounds for your stuff?
I mean we can have the fairgrounds.
Um, how, how, that load of gravel I'm just gonna take it in town and uh, yeah.
The dig in the hole is gonna take a couple times but I was just gonna put it forth to the guys and see if they wanted to volunteer to do it on the weekend.
That way we'll only have uh, fuel costs and do it.
Okay.
Add some bites on that so.
Some stuff like that.
Usually we ask you if you've got to do it.
We don't.
Well, um, I just remember being told there's a big thing about the uh, snowmobile races.
Like they put the track together back in the day.
So, as I'm still kind of new to this position, I figured I'd ask because I didn't know if there's something.
There's a whole difference.
Yeah, yeah.
So you're working on it behalf of helping the county.
Sure.
That's, I just wanted to cover my P's and Q's.
When, when you put a culvert in, you say they come in 30 foot lengths.
How many feet do you usually need?
Is it, it's more than 30 feet, right?
Yeah, uh, typically it's about 40 feet.
Yeah.
And the reason we ended up, we've put them together where they're 60 foot two.
It just depends how deep they are.
Right.
The embankments on the road going out and uh, normal length is uh, say 40, 45 feet.
Can easily go longer real quick too.
Right.
The 30 foot lengths, we got them in that because uh, just tying on the extensions on the end
of them, just easier in the end of the day for us.
To move and maneuver and hop.
Yeah.
Whatever.
There are some points where we have to do uh, 60 foot lengths of culvert or something
like that.
So, those convenience thing more or less.
Mike, can I ask a favor?
I have one.
Okay.
You're giving me way too much information.
I don't want to lose it.
They're enough.
So, huffed up.
Well, I appreciate um, what you do and giving us, keeping us.
I like your organization.
Yep.
Keep us in here on top of your game.
Gotta make it look nice, right?
Yeah.
Well, we're informed a lot better this way.
Good deal.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Let's just hope we can use a lot of our stuff on this bridge.
God, this is.
Yeah.
The only other cost is, you know, that I might be able to cut.
I don't know.
I'd have to go count it real quick, but we have a bunch of that geo, rolls of geoplaw down
there.
It was only $10,000 end of that.
But I think I've got about a thousand feet down there and their job is calling for five
something.
So, two rolls of 300 feet.
I'd be able to cover that one anyways.
That stuff that's down underneath you, that's, you can't use that again underneath the deep
tour.
What we put in.
Yeah.
Typically practices, you know, once it's applied.
Yeah.
It's done.
It gets ripped up too easily when you're going to try to retrieve it.
Yeah.
I wouldn't even consider it myself.
You know, it's just.
I was going to put it back in that hole.
The material out of, but if we're going to take that bypass and put it directly in that
bridge, that's going to work out pretty decent for us.
But then again, we're at the funnel of the traffic back around over that boxcar bridge.
Right.
Right.
So.
Or the other route going way around.
Yeah.
But, you know, it seems to me that they get the embutments in, they would put the gravel
and I would think before they would put the bridge on top of it.
I don't know if the bridge goes on top and then they backfill them on the ends or.
No, they'll have the embankment or the embunkment so on the other side, totally done with before
they put this.
Yeah.
At least that's what they've done on all their highway jobs and definitely slowed down
and taken again.
Well, if that bridge is going to be, how many feet above the road?
Four foot higher than what it currently is.
That's going to, you're going to have to feather that out for a ways, aren't we?
Oh, yeah.
Or are they animals?
That's amazing.
I've got copies.
Oh, do you?
Yeah.
Okay.
And yeah, that's where the majority of the material is going to come across, but it's
going to handle more for it, hopefully.
Yeah.
But I suppose you have your next meeting ahead of you here, so I'll get out of your way.
All right.
Thank you, Mike.
Nice.
Yep.
Y'all, good day.
Yeah.
I figured I'd just sit in here and see if it's going to happen.
We haven't received any messages to do that ain't going to happen.
Yeah.
Well, you've already cut back $300 million.
All right.
For the record, we are at 10 o'clock waiting for 10 o'clock agenda item.
Shut up.
It's 11 o'clock.
We are on agenda item of 11 o'clock local government review survey.
So question one, county name.
Got that.
Question two, the non-mills we levy.
Got that.
Two.
Number of commissioners, three.
Now we need local initial point of contact for the local government.
What was that?
Initial point of contact for the local government.
Commissioners.
Out there looking for?
Phone number.
And person phone number and email.
So.
What do you want them to call?
Well, this should be somebody who's going to be here for the two years, right?
Two years of the study.
What's your phone number?
5561.
Would you be willing to be the local contact?
Oh, this is literally that quick.
Well, I'm assuming it's going to be me.
Right.
Because you guys aren't here every day.
So.
And they're email me everything.
Correct.
Okay.
End of survey.
Yep.
You are correct.
So we still don't know.
My question is to get this education or if we have, well, we've got to have three.
Don't.
Here's the whole email from him.
You'll find the answer.
Okay.
So we have no.
No more business concerning this.
We have no vote or anything.
It was just to do the survey.
So we will recess for the moment.
We are recessing for lunch.
We're in the process of calling the candidate, commissioner candidate, Leanna Hendren.
Hi, Leanna.
It's Michael.
Yep.
We got Gary in the room.
Myself, Tammy Christy went to see if Logan was available.
He's coming.
So.
Are you ready?
Can we go ahead and start something here?
Absolutely.
Okay.
I guess my first question that I would have is what is your perception of the responsibilities
of being a commissioner?
Well, the first thing I'm going to tell you is that I'm not a politician.
I what I want is I know the commissioners have a deep responsibility on one of the primary
ones is basically for the county.
And then all the ambularies that come with us at the different departments.
So I know most of you are on different boards as a result of being a commissioner, like
the emergency service planning and those different areas.
So I know that it encompasses more than coming three times a month to the courthouse.
I'm very well aware that you guys have got a lot to think about when it comes to responsibility
towards our county employees, toward all of our county people that live with, you know,
that live within our county, you know, whether it's roads to get to somebody's farm or the
responsibility of the county over the fair.
There's multiple levels that you guys have.
Yeah.
To me, your number one primary thing is physical responsibility.
How do we take care of all this stuff financially?
Yep.
I can't remember what.
Mike.
Go ahead.
Here is Andrew here.
Why do you want to be a commissioner?
Well, I've been in our community for, I'm 61 and been here all the seven years.
And what I've seen is our kids, our youth tend to be our number one experts.
I am not opposed to our kids leaving to go to college, but I want them to have a reason
to come back.
I want them to have a good reason to come back.
You know, they could make a good living in a safe community.
I don't know.
I love Colby.
I love Daniels County.
I don't want to live anywhere else.
And I want other people to feel that way.
I want them to have a reason to come home to.
Whether we have a good job, reasonably priced homes, a good school.
It all kind of plays together.
And I don't feel like we market our community well enough to draw those things in.
And I believe we can if we have the resources to do it.
I was just online on Friday before we took off.
And there's actually been a bunch of grants that are going to be released.
And one of them is for a grant writer for rural areas.
And I thought, wow, okay, this is perfect.
This is what Colby or Daniels County is a whole new.
We need someone to be able to, we find these grants, we need to get them written.
We need to draw it out.
I've asked one of my questions.
Gary's asked one.
Oh, Hayley Anna Logan joining.
What's that?
Oh, it's Logan.
Logan Olson.
I just blocked in the room.
I'm, I'm late.
That's all right.
The question I've asked everyone is if, if you're involved in any other city or county boards,
just with an eye towards potential conflicts.
So no longer I was on the county district hospital board for 24 years.
And I decided to this time not to run again to allow someone to have the ability to step up to the plate.
And in part of that reason was is I had seriously considered running for commissioner when the positions in my district came up.
So I knew that was to potentially be a conflict.
Awesome.
Well, I guess Michael again, I guess one of my comments was you do realize or maybe you don't, but it's more than just three days a month.
We're considering a fourth day a month.
It's also a winter midwinter conference sponsored by MACo, the fall conference, annual conference sponsored by MACo.
There's district meetings in the spring.
There's highway department meetings usually in March.
And then we all get assigned to certain participations.
And I've got I'm on the mental health.
And so I sometimes have meetings in Miles City or Glendive and Gary's got meetings that goes to Wolf Point.
And so there's, there's way more to it than just the three or four days.
And so I guess if you want to make some comment towards that, you know, how well you could adjust to that and make that work.
Yep. So we have been, I'm actually right now out here at my daughter's house.
My daughter recently got licensed in insurance and she has actually been appointed to be my backup for my insurance office.
And so I thought her able to work for the piece for cover my insurance office.
And in the storage case, Steven has been telling me that he needs to start slowing down and not be doing as much of the installation and stuff.
And so we've been working on training a couple new people to hopefully be able to take that part over.
And as he says, he would like to be able to stay at the store and make the sales and stuff.
So, so the support there for me to step away from our business is there.
We've, we've also had somebody express interest in buying our business out.
And if that happens, then obviously that really cleans up a lot of time.
So, yes, and I'm completely aware that it's more than three days a month.
I knew that you guys served down some of the individual county boards.
And I knew that some of those would take you out and I was completely aware that you have your annual meetings.
And much like when I worked for the school districts, we had a couple three a year that you have to go out of town for.
And being the age I am, it's a lot easier for me to just pack up suitcase and let's go get this meeting done.
So I'm pretty flexible that way, especially when I have a schedule in front of me and I can make plans around it.
And the thing is, I know that there are times that something can blow up and you really have got to get together as soon as you possibly can.
And I can generally make that work.
We don't leave the area a lot, you know, occasionally for a doctor's appointment, but that's not.
And then occasionally come out here and see our daughter, but we don't get out of town too much.
Like I said, I'm perfectly happy being in the region because I love it there.
I don't really want to be anywhere else.
Do you have any questions you want to ask of us?
Nothing in particular.
I know that I started going back and just reading through the minutes.
And, you know, just more, I'm just more curious on fiscal year end just got over.
You guys are just starting a new budget year.
And I'm actually very well versed in state accounting, governmental accounting, because of my work experience.
And so I've actually enjoyed the process of when you guys are adopting your budget and finalizing the budget here.
And what, where's the money all goes?
I mean, I'm just totally interested in that.
And I'm looking forward to potentially serving my community.
And, you know, whatever you guys decide is awesome.
But I just am very thankful that you're giving me serious consideration.
Okay, thank you.
Anybody else?
Any other comments, questions?
No, unless she's got something on her mind that she wants to directly work on in the county.
Yeah, the only question I would have is when you guys make your selection, if your selection is one of the three that you're interviewing yesterday today, when do you expect that person to start?
Would it be the next meeting or would it be in August or?
July 15.
July 15, okay.
That would be my only question.
Okay.
All right.
Well, thank you for your time and thank you for considering this and we'll let you know.
Sounds great.
All right.
Thank you.
I see your agenda.
Oh, yeah, we've changed up.
Yeah, things have shuffled a couple of times.
Which is probably not right, but we did it anyway.
It was an emergency situation.
That agenda item has concluded and we will recess until two recorders on the commission had a discussion of the three candidates.
And we have chosen Mike Theven as our candidate to replace the vacated seat and we made contact with him and he's willing and able and ready to start serving next meeting July 15.
We will be calling the other two candidates and informing them also.
So we'll just leave it recording for now.
No, I don't have her number.
Do you want the office phone?
No, just because she's gone.
No, I mean to call her on our regular phone.
The one who just called her on.
Ah.
8602.
Oh, somebody's not happy.
Nope, she just got something taken away from her.
Mean grandma.
Yeah, mean grandma.
I didn't mean to hurt your ears.
Yeah, obviously you know who this is.
This is Michael one.
We're calling.
We had some hard decisions to make here, but we have chosen Mike Theven as our replacement.
No, that's perfectly fine.
I appreciate you just giving me the call.
Yeah.
And yeah, we think we thank you for wanting to do it and that that's where we're at.
That's perfect.
That's perfect.
Yep.
Nope.
I appreciate you.
Just let me know.
Thank you so much for calling back.
Yep.
Okay.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Bye-bye.
Where are you showing me?
Because I supposed to look at some special weather.
Oh.
I was going to break loose.
Hello, Matt.
It's Michael.
Yeah.
We had some soul searching here.
It was a hard decision, but we have chosen Mike Theven as our replacement for Lee and
we appreciate your willingness and your interviewing and stuff.
So, there's where we're at.
Thanks, Mike.
I appreciate your call back.
You betcha.
Thank you for what you do.
That wasn't too tough.
It's over.
Yeah.
You're right.
Oh, we appreciate your participation.
The interest.
I don't think we scare them off enough.
No.
I tell them everything that we have.
Yeah.
I would have been like, yeah, you guys deal with this crap, but not with it.
Okay, I forwarded this over to this one.
It was on mine.
Good.
Thank you.
Yeah.
That concludes our, let's see, what agenda item are we even at here?
No, we're not.
Okay.
We got the two o'clock with Lee, so we will recess until Lee Hinkley comes in at two o'clock.
We are at our two o'clock agenda item with Lee Hinkley and looking at the delinquent
accounts for the ambulance.
And he has several that he would like to write off.
And so we will make a motion.
Yeah.
The total amount is $2,927.39.
Either the people are deceased or they are so far out of the county, out of the state,
that there's no way I can collect at this time.
Okay.
So motion, second, motion has been made in second to write off the delinquent accounts
that Lee mentioned the amounts of.
All those in favor please say aye.
Aye.
Any opposition?
No, no opposition.
Motion is carried.
Did you, you had sale of the ambulance?
We need to discuss that amount.
When I was bringing back the new ambulance, I got calls from three people that got the
information from the MACo website.
Gave them the information once I got back, we discussed the price, but I guess it's way
too high.
I discussed with the person that we went through to purchase it, Lori Balser.
And she thought that it was way too high.
She also reached out to some of the other people that sell ambulances, broker ambulances,
basically, and kind of gave me a price about where the ballpark would be.
What year is that, Lee?
The one we're getting rid of is a 19, 2019.
Ford F450.
A 19, 2019?
Yeah.
Oh, no.
No.
No, excuse me, that's the newer one.
No, it's a 14.
Excuse me.
It sounds like that.
It's a 14.
Okay.
2014 Ford.
F450.
Ford by Ford.
Ford by Ford.
Ford by Ford.
Okay, it's...
Okay.
Okay.
It's on a...
It's got a marquee box.
And marquee is no longer in business either, so there's...
Part of the issue that she said was reduce the price.
Like, well, what do you do?
Yeah.
What drops it so bad?
I don't know.
I really don't know.
I mean, the vehicle is...
I know.
It was worth...
It was over, what, 220,000 originally?
That you said...
Do you know how many miles it was?
212.
212 wasn't...
But then you had the striker...
48,000 miles.
48,000.
I believe that's what it was.
Yeah.
Or a little more than 48,000.
Yeah.
You know.
It's in good shape.
But...
And this is with the striker cot, right?
Oh, yes.
Power cot and power load system.
So, I thought that'd be worth more than that, but evidently not.
You would...
If we can determine the base price here, would you be willing to re-contact?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'll let him know that...
And we will still...
We have to advertise it.
We'll have to advertise it for bids, but he's just saying that we have reduced the base price.
Exactly.
We'll go from there.
Are you talking 120?
Pardon?
Are you talking 120?
That...
She told me that would be the high price.
What is it?
100 to 120.
So, I...
So, we kind of want to hang on to that figure.
Well, we want to get as much as we can, because then it goes back into my budget, you know.
So, back into the kitty.
Yeah.
I've got another piece of equipment I'd like to purchase down the road in a year.
Maybe less.
Okay.
You were talking the other day about one individual don't want that striker.
Oh, that was the corner out of planes, but it's going with it.
I mean, what am I going to do with it?
Yeah.
I can't use it, you know.
Well, you can't.
Well, you get two...
I got one in each one.
Okay.
I mean, if you had the stretcher out, okay, but you've still got the power load system that's
in the bed of the ambulance.
I was just...
I guess I was just wondering if you can sell the ambulance for what a good price and then
sell that separate to some of their personal individual.
Then you'd take all this stuff out.
Because didn't you buy a striker all by itself?
Well, you could.
Yeah.
I mean, basically you do, and then it's put into the ambulance.
Yes.
Right.
I mean, could you advertise that?
I mean, like I said, if we could get a good price for the ambulance, and they don't want
to...
Yeah.
They got their own for example.
But pretty much everybody, other than this gentleman, because he wanted to use it for
the corners outfit.
No.
When you still need one of those to put the dead body in it?
Well, yeah.
And he could use that.
That's what I told him.
So when you can use that, well, we have our stretchers.
Well, yeah, you physically lift them up to put them into your van or whatever, like here.
You don't have to.
If you...
Once you get the body on that cot, it's powered to come up and goes in and hooks in and then
the two arms lift the whole cot up and you push it in.
I mean, when you can have an eight month pregnant lady able to put people in and out, you know,
that's pretty simple.
So I don't know.
That's kind of strange.
I think it should go with it to be a lot less.
Otherwise...
Then you'd have to take all that gear out that makes it move even now.
It's not just the cot.
The whole system.
Move.
Yeah.
It's the whole system.
You don't want to fool with that.
No.
I wouldn't want to fool with that.
No.
Yeah.
That's the way it is.
So...
And you said you've got a few more contacts?
Yes.
Missoula.
Circle.
Oh.
The EMT.
Actually, Missoula, I believe.
Where?
One of the EMT companies from Missoula.
Oh.
And they have five of them.
Okay.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, it would be nice to get rid of it because what else are we going to do
with it?
Todd Southon called me earlier today as he was going through town.
He found a Glasgow and said that he saw the old ambulance sitting outside and he said,
you know, if you want, he's got this quonset there right there by the pro-co-op building
in Flaxville.
Said we could put it in there out of the weather.
You know, because I said, well, last weekend, I put it out in my son-in-law's for the weekend
when we were supposed to have bad hail.
But...
Airy Medicine?
I don't know.
There's a little mark on the thing.
Oh.
Yeah.
That's the county.
Or the town, I should say.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
So, but anyway, what do you think?
We were advised by the lady who sold us the new one and told us about the old one between
100 and 120.
20.
Would be high-end, yeah.
So, 110.
And I say, let people give you a bid and then you decide on that bid at that time.
If somebody comes in with 125 or 130, it's so bid, you know.
Oh, sure.
If they...
We have the right to...
Oh, yes, we do.
...chef to any bid.
Yes.
So, August, now we're turned into a spy August meeting.
It's up to you.
Because it's not going to go on the paper, tell them.
Next week.
Yeah, give it a month to...
About a month to July to decide, I guess.
Yeah, August 5th versus August 6th.
Because Lee likes coming on Tuesdays, so...
Well, all the exchange is out of tune then.
But yeah.
And I got it put into the state this morning and I have the temporary license.
I just printed it out at home to put in there for now.
There's no reserve or minimum.
Just put it out there and as long as we have the right to accept or reject, we'll run with
it and see what happens.
Yeah, see what you get.
Yeah, I think that's...
I would...
They still like that 165.
Yeah, the 170.
Yeah, I do too.
I already boosted you up.
But, you know, I wasn't...
I guess I was way out of line on that one.
But what do you know?
Grace, the way inflation hit everything else, you think we could get that kind of cash?
Yeah.
Jesus, we paid it.
I know.
I know.
So...
But that's where we're at.
They...
Yeah.
They were very good.
They waited for me to finally get into St. Louis.
I mean, I didn't get in for five hours later and I was supposed to be.
Yeah.
So, you know, sat there and waited for me to drive a little over two hours back to my
motel.
So I got in there around one in the morning and they picked me up at 7.30 to take me to
Osage and go through everything.
How are you driving big trucks?
How am I driving it?
How do you like driving them?
We have a garbage truck.
It's in Fargo.
Oh.
Yeah.
You always go for it.
It's a ambulance.
Well...
Crosstination.
Yeah.
And why I've done that is because Lori would have charged, I think, in the past, it was
$3,000.
This time she told me it would have been around $45,000 to fly out there and drive them back.
And the association said we will accept that responsibility and that's why I didn't go
on you at all.
The gas and the lodging and the flight all went to the association.
So it's just a way to say, okay, you're paying out so much to the county, we're going to
try and do as much as we can.
And that's why I've always felt if we can work together on things.
So that's why.
Okay, no question.
So last time we did this, we had a 2009 Type 1 MedTech ambulance.
Right.
So this is a 2014.
Same thing.
Yep, Type 1.
Okay, Ford F-150, XLT.
This is an F-450.
That's what I said, didn't I?
You said 150.
Oh, 450, sorry.
4x4.
Yep.
Is it still a 6.4 liter vehicle?
6.7.
6.7?
Look at you knowing all these stuff.
I gave you that.
I gave you that.
I don't know where it went.
Oh, I can print it out again.
It was right here.
Okay.
It was equipped with the Pro XT.
Yep.
Striker.
And power load system.
Yeah, I got that.
Striker load power system.
The model of the Striker car is.
Oh boy, I couldn't tell you that.
And then IV pole.
Yeah, it comes with an IV pole.
I want to be available.
As soon as this comes through or whatever.
I guess.
On the next step though.
What are you looking for?
The specs.
And I can go get that.
I think I took them.
I know I did because I went down to that meeting.
Oh, sure.
Well, I mean, I can get that again.
That's not a big deal.
I think I got everything except for the Striker model.
Call for more details.
I did.
And I gave them the least fall number and set up time to look at it if they wanted to.
So hopefully.
This is what we did four years ago or whatever it was.
19.
Yeah.
It looks identical on the inside and outside.
But that's what we want.
Because no matter which one you're in, if you're reaching for something.
You know, you don't want to go, okay, where was that in here, you know.
It's not the time to be looking for things.
So, of course, the front, the inside, the cab is a lot different, you know.
There's no emergency brake.
It's a little button.
That's going to take people a while to get used to.
You know.
Why, I don't know.
Electronic.
Yeah, I know.
It's not mechanical.
That's true.
It's true.
Brakes are mechanical.
Now it's like you locked up the shaft or something.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it also has a, like a jake brake.
It has exhaust brake.
That'd be cool.
Yeah, no.
I tried that a couple of times and even rolled the window down and I couldn't hear.
So, I don't know.
My newer semi truck.
You can't rattle it like that.
You know.
Yeah.
That old Peterbilt or that old Ken Richards.
Loud.
One more, one more, one more, one more.
Can't rattle it.
I love it.
So, it gives me thrill.
Other than that, I really don't have anything else because I'm going to order some weather
tech to put in both of them.
We got to thinking about that when we were cleaning the old one out that we're getting
rid of.
I mean, even though they have the rubber thing.
Back three months.
Yeah.
It's still, you got to get in there with a scrub brush and scrub it and try and get it
clean.
And it's like, you know, if we had a mats that we could just physically take out and
then pressure wash, it's like, yeah, gee.
How hard would that be, right?
So, I just haven't gotten around to that.
So, if you just want to tell me what, when you find the model number three.
Power five.
I'll go down there and go inside.
This won't be out in the paper till next week.
Lift the back up because that's where the model number is behind the head.
We could probably find when we bought it.
We would have bought it in 2014, right?
Same time.
Familes.
Yeah.
Okay.
But I can go look there probably quicker and you can find it.
Probably.
Yeah.
You can do that.
That's all.
Okay.
So, I have 2014 Psych 1 MedTech Ambulance Ford F450 4x4 XLT 4x4 6.7 LV8 diesel approximately
48,000 miles equipped with pro XT striker cop model, locking front wheels for steering,
striker power load system, IV pole.
Okay.
All right.
Yeah.
Okay.
Pretty much.
No.
Nothing else for me?
Then that's fine.
Okay.
The only thing too, Saturday, we had a call on the ROI.
Didn't go out on the correct channel, but we have our radios on scan.
So, they did respond.
Except, I was working at the hospital and I heard it come on my radio as they were talking
to the sheriff to give him the mile marker on the ROI.
So, I called up and I said, what's going on?
And Sean says, oh, we have a vehicle versus deer.
And I said, well, our policy has been you send the ambulance and the rescue truck.
Oh, well, the sheriff's going to go out and check it out.
And if you need to, he'll call you back and say, that's not our policy.
And I'm like, okay, Lee, hang up before you get really upset.
So, then it wasn't about, what was it, 40-some minutes later?
Here goes the page on the wrong channel, but people, they responded there.
So, there were five people in the vehicle, two adults, three children.
The youngest one only being nine days old, okay?
They all refused, but that's fine.
And like I told the sheriff when I saw him the other day, I said, this is the policy.
And look how long it took from the time the call came in before the ambulance got there.
And now, if we'd have brought a patient, how much longer then back?
That's why we've always said, we'll go as a group.
If they don't need us, that's fine.
It's a lot less time in case somebody really needed to come in, you know?
Is that the June 11th call?
No.
Oh, because I noticed on that, you have six people.
Oh yeah, that one was deer versus out here at four of yous.
Yeah.
Six people, five of them spoke no English.
I have an ongoing thing with the people there too.
Not our, not the sheriff's department, but my people.
Well, we don't have to do it.
Trippleport says, yes, you do.
Well, no, we didn't do anything.
And yes, you did.
You drove out?
As soon as you walked up, you're observing.
What do you look like?
You know?
And so now I've got, I will give them the states.
I, what's not statues, but you know, that says when you will do them.
And in there very clearly is any person, even if they do refuse, you have to do a Trippleport
to the state within 48 hours.
And it's like...
Well, it's to cover your guys' budget aside.
Well, and what I said was, so, these people didn't speak English.
Well, they had an interpreter.
I said, why didn't you call the border patrol?
I'd be a little leery with, here are five Hispanics up here in Scobie.
What the hell, right?
Well, I never thought of it.
I said, well, would have been the first thing I done was gone back and said, yeah, you want to send
border patrol out here in the middle of the night, you know?
But I said, so down the road, you have this lawyer that shows up and says, yeah, my client here ended up
with a back injury and you didn't assess him.
But I want to see your paperwork and you don't have paperwork.
He didn't understand English.
So you see the liability.
They're like, well, so they ended up doing them.
But I mean, yeah, it's going to take time.
It's the same thing.
I'm getting feedback on the one from Saturday.
Well, we don't have to do that.
We discussed that at the last meeting because I wasn't here.
I was at the home.
You need to do it.
So we'll go round and round.
So, but anyway, where did where did we see those names?
Those six names that I asked you guys if you knew anything about that.
Yeah, but then no, we sat on a piece.
Yeah, the ones where I list everybody in the amounts and then it's like refused, refused.
And I wanted to know if you guys have heard anything.
Yeah.
My first reaction was, yeah, what are these people doing here?
Exactly.
I have no idea anything.
And of course, the two people didn't bother to ask any questions and it's like, hmm.
And it was hit a deer.
Hit a deer disabled the vehicle.
Same thing with the one down on the RY.
Yeah.
The first thing you do is call the border patrol.
I would have.
Is that what they're here for?
Yeah.
I mean, especially when there's somebody that doesn't speak English and that many and that
many.
Absolutely.
I mean, maybe they're putting up a bin or something somewhere.
So, you know, who knows?
I mean, I think when they put that fertilizer plant up, there was a whole bunch of them.
But I mean, still in this day and age, come on.
So that'll be a discussion or a meeting in this month.
Well, shouldn't the sheriff's office have called them?
No.
Shouldn't there have been a law enforcement person that went out to the car accident?
Oh.
But they normally don't.
I mean, it depends on if they're on duty or not.
You know.
I just figured they'd call because it was a car accident.
They called me.
Oh, yeah.
That would be the first thing.
I mean.
I agree.
But not always.
Even your people.
But how did your people know about it?
They got dispatched.
So it shouldn't.
The police shouldn't.
The cops shouldn't know it.
Well, it comes down to policy, doesn't it?
Like I said, our policy is any vehicle accident, whether it's a deer versus vehicle or whatever,
you pay the ambulance.
Because they'll always tell you that, oh, I'm not hurt.
I'm okay.
And then when you do get there, they're like, well, yeah, my shoulder or something starts
hurting because the adrenaline's wore off.
So I guess I just figured any vehicle accidents anywhere they should normally they dispatch
highway control or something.
That'd be a good one to ask the sheriff.
Why didn't somebody respond to that accident?
The sheriff did respond, right?
I don't see that on the report.
No.
I don't.
And he may have.
She didn't think the sheriff.
So who called him?
The one person that spoke English.
Because evidently, the comment was made to me that his company says that any accident they
have to notify the department, sheriff's department or police department.
And that didn't happen?
Well, they did.
They called it in and then they sent us out, which is the protocol.
Don't you get sent with the cops?
Don't a cop go with you?
You mean you attend those just on your own?
Most of the time.
Really?
Yeah.
I always thought there was a cop that went with you.
Not always.
Oh.
Not always.
We would appreciate it just for safety-wise.
Safety.
And same thing if it's at a bar.
We prefer to have law enforcement there.
Yeah.
I mean, that only makes sense a traffic violation or not a violation of accident.
Yeah.
Exactly.
And that's also why we have the rescue truck comes there too, so then it can help block
off.
And those people can help too, unless they're helping get somebody out of a vehicle.
But like I say, you set policies and then-
Policy broke down.
People don't follow it.
So I don't know.
And I know the new lady said that she didn't know about the policy.
And I said, well, now you do.
But I sure thought it was up there written.
This is what you do.
That comes down to whoever trained them, right?
That has been.
Maybe.
Yeah.
She saw us to history.
Yeah.
Other than that, I'll get my people hopefully fall in line.
There you go.
Your review of policy again, huh?
Oh, yes.
Definitely.
She's a busy girl.
Let's work, work, work, work.
You remember that one?
That's the fee for the title.
Okay.
We don't.
Sure.
Do we have any idea what we're doing with the radios?
I mean, I hear one thing then I hear another thing.
So.
Well, we have everything ordered.
So.
Oh, okay.
We don't know squat.
But when it comes, we don't know the new councils.
But radios.
That's all shots, baby.
And all that's dispatch.
But radios like what kind of radios are you talking about?
Like, but they dispatch you out on.
Oh, yeah.
I think they'll be here this winter.
It's that long.
But we've got them all on order.
That's good.
Yeah.
I don't have anything else.
Thank you.
Thank you for purchasing the ambulance too.
You know.
Two o'clock agenda is over.
We'll recess for the moment.
It's two 30 and the agenda item is Sheriff Clint Lowell.
We are now recording.
Okay.
We will ask you.
All right.
Sounds good.
We'll get to that one here in a minute.
All right.
I was asked to find out if we want to pay that one through last
fiscal or this upcoming fiscal.
This is for the video cameras that I have to put through everything.
Not as of yet.
So I will.
We're recording.
Second.
All those in favor.
Hi.
We need an invoice for this.
Okay.
Jess.
Come here.
There you go.
Thank you.
Oh, that wasn't why.
Wait.
I don't want.
I don't want.
Why'd you pay your file?
We need an actual invoice to go with this.
Correct.
Well, I don't know because he does things on his own.
I don't know how he does it because we paid it before for the upstairs
stuff.
Do you know what we have?
Okay.
Thank you.
Thank you.
All right.
We want you right there so we can hit you under the table or
whatever.
I warned him before the week was off.
So we'll hit the outs now.
Okay.
So.
He leaves us out.
That happens once in a while.
How do you all get through the day like that?
Sometimes we don't.
That's not for you.
There's that and that.
All right.
When she gets back, we'll go over it.
As far as stuff goes for a corner, I have sent in an application for
my basic corner class and it starts December 9th through the 13th.
And then so we don't lose our other two deputy corners.
They have to get their classes done in December as well because
they've already been over there.
They're almost at the end of their corner, their basic corner because
they have to get so many hours.
I think it is to maintain that corner class.
You can't do it online, huh?
Not that I'm aware of.
Even if they do, the way they have this submitted, they don't want
the lodging and they don't want the meals, the full meal plan down there,
which means the class is going to probably be cheaper to do it through MLEA
than it is to do it online because they don't want the lodging.
And their class is December 4th through the 6th.
So to try to secure our spots, I went ahead and sent them over to MLEA
just to make sure that it's there.
And if they have to MLEA, Montana Law Enforcement Academy.
Okay.
So, what do you do?
Something other, associations, privates going through?
Yeah.
So once I guess it's kind of up to you whether you want to take it all out of next year
when you have more money or if you want to face them now or some later?
You need different chairs in this room.
A bigger, better chair.
Same kind.
Same difference.
I'll just have to get one that I can modify where I can sit down in it when I'm through the outfit.
So, but I guess it would, you know, what was the end on the other one?
What did she say?
Well, on the point, he just had a, he had a typed up thing, but it wasn't an invoice.
So basically he has everything on that paper that he has on your plane form.
Okay.
So whichever one is.
Just needs it.
Yeah.
Wherever it's at, it doesn't, I guess it really truly wouldn't bother me.
And I would just need to know at the long end of it.
But as far as the, that would be fine.
You guys can have that copy for them.
I made one out of one.
It might be in here.
Oh, I gave her.
That's your corner train?
Yeah.
That's the corner train for both.
I was expecting to them mine this December night.
And then I have to put Bobby Joe and.
Toggle it through.
I just paid her bill for $6,000.
For the other one.
For the advanced one.
Or else we're going to lose them as deputy corners because they haven't.
Gone through the.
Haven't gone through the next portion of their training, which eventually I'm going to have to go through the same thing as well.
So that's what that is.
Like I told him, I said, I submitted it to the academy just to hold a spot.
Good idea.
I know that it's first come first serve on a lot of it.
And it's six months out.
I don't want to wait until November and try to get into a class because every time I look at the basic corner class.
It pops up and then disappears.
He gets me a dirty look.
Every time.
It's going to get you a little stool.
At the end of the month.
I'm sorry.
I think that these things turned in before, but.
Oh, we've had quite a few and mine hasn't stopped.
It started like 10 minutes before I even came in.
This is free.
Toasty.
Here's the original guy.
He's always been busy, haven't they?
Yeah.
Things that we responded to, 129.
Last count, I heard like 2,500 some on phone calls.
Yeah, that's what she wants.
I finally came in, which I didn't know that we would have that big of an increase.
Coming in, going into the.
What do you call it?
The beginning of a new year.
You know, so.
At the beginning of harvest, I would say.
So Bob Joe.
What name is her actual name?
Because all of her paper work, she has B.
It is B.
Right now, but by the time that class starts, it'll be.
Okay.
Because I saw something else with that shadow.
So then I might put all of your paperwork.
You just gave me is B.
One more.
Yes.
She explained that one to me.
Okay.
All right.
We'll do.
Another thing I've got on here.
I keep forgetting that.
We ran into a big problem.
Because I haven't been able to deposit them.
I have to resubmit the ones that I do have the checks.
I do have from Sheridan County.
I have to have them recut a new one for these lawyers.
I'll do it right now.
This right here.
This they are shutting.
Or they're putting it on hold.
Due to inactivity for independence.
Okay.
So.
I need to get that squared away so I can get.
Why don't you keep reminding me.
Every month we do.
So.
Every month but.
I have placed on order gentlemen.
The other uniforms for Kate.
And I will have him sign the same type of piece of paper stating that.
You know if he chooses to either end his employment or he is terminated prior to.
A date I think it's been two years is what it usually is what mine was written for.
And everyone else's was written for it.
He chooses to either quit before the two years or he's terminated.
He has to pay back.
The money the retroactive type money on it.
So.
I'll just go from there on that one.
But that invoice will be coming in it will be in the new fiscal year.
As well but.
This is just a copy of.
Lake proposal.
These two letters here that's for Christy to have.
But there's that one for you.
And.
One of these this one here from Volko.
Is.
What do you call it.
It's for our uniform patches.
Is there out of them down there in.
Is that the little green ones.
Yes.
The little green ones that we have that we were on our shoulders.
Okay.
That's those.
So.
And then it's okay.
This is the cameras.
Okay.
Do you have an account on her.
Is that on here.
I'm pretty sure it might be.
Oh, it might be underneath that one.
I'll call it.
So.
I don't know who all is on it.
Just as high Harry and Monica.
So.
So I don't.
Yeah.
I don't know.
It's just on there.
Okay.
But yeah.
I need to get these other ones that have been.
These checks that you see in the back that are coming from Daniel Sheridan.
That page you're looking at right there.
I have to get those checks reissued.
So that not only I can send the lawyers their.
Checks.
And that was per hour.
The last conversation I had with our finance people.
When we went to the audit.
They have to be put in that direction.
Sure.
So then that way we keep.
The court paperwork as well.
In line.
I don't want to mess anything up.
So.
That's where we're at with that one.
As far as.
What else did I have?
Oh.
Crash reporting.
I've got no way.
And it's not due to Daniel's coming.
It's the state of Montana.
I have patrol has changed their crash reporting.
Systems.
So I have to get with them.
Here.
I was hoping to do it yesterday.
But then I remembered I had a meeting.
I got moved to today.
But I have to get with them to.
Get the crash reports or figure out how.
To get back on the.
Higher patrol crash report forms.
So if there's an accident here in town that we do.
We still have to submit through state of Montana.
But.
They used to run a program called silver light.
And it came to the end of its life.
And.
We're not the only county that can't access high patrol.
It's just like the accident we have on Sunday.
I had to wait two hours for high patrol to show up.
Because I can't access their site.
Shared in county.
I spoke briefly with them.
They run what they call a duo login.
And then.
So that way it's an authentication program.
That they have to use to log into.
Their system.
That state system.
And I want to sit down and talk with.
Either John Anderson or Lonnie.
Johnson about that.
Figure out how that works.
So I don't have to wait.
Two hours along the side of the road.
For the high patrol to show up for an hour investigation.
When I can potentially do the pictures and.
Investigations all ourselves here.
Within Daniels County.
Unless it's a major accident on the highway.
I'll still call high patrol to come out and do it.
I just.
I don't mind pushing it off to having them do it.
Because that's what they do all day long.
That's their bread and butter.
So.
It is something that we have to consider getting back into.
Other than that.
And our.
Increase of telephone calls that we've been getting.
I don't think there's much more to that.
Oh.
You've all said that the jail out there in Flagsville belongs to the county, right?
Does that mean that the old jail beds belong to the county that are in there?
Because I want to pull one of them beds out.
And put it inside my holding cell.
Because it's all a great big huge metal bed.
That would just take a phone mattress put onto it.
To where I want to put it inside the holding cell here.
The temporary holding cell.
Until.
You know, just forward to keep a piece of Daniels County involved with the whole sheriff's office.
Wasn't my thought about it.
You know, so.
Because it's made of metal.
Yeah, it's a heavy duty bed.
It's not destructive.
Did you go there and look down?
I sure did.
I went there to find out if any of the keys that we currently have.
The office actually worked in one of those locks.
And if it did, I was going to have Gavin Ferris cut the lock out.
And welded into the new cell wall.
So then that way we could have that old school appeal and feel again, you know.
Just reuse, repurpose, you know.
But none of the keys were that big.
I was kind of disappointed.
But I didn't see the beds and I pulled one away from the wall.
Maybe there was a tea lane around in that building.
And probably from here?
Day and age.
When we looked at it.
When we looked at it, Gary wanted me to go inside and look at it.
Because he says, there's a stove in there and all this and that.
And I said, I ain't going in there with you behind me.
There isn't a stove. I didn't see a stove.
Ah, really?
Yeah, I didn't see a stove in there anymore.
It's just like a little itty-bitty.
I'd say maybe three by six is the room in the back.
But the room that's right directly in the front to where you could put your feet up.
Two people in there, one in the back and one in the front.
Well, there was a prisoner you don't need, but it's got to be a room.
No, you don't.
But I didn't see a stove in there unless it was knocked down and underneath a bunch of stuff.
Oh shit, I thought I saw a little...
We see the stove right.
I thought I saw a little wood burner in there.
I would imagine somebody would have caked it anyway.
Yeah, I mean, it looks like it's been gone through, but if those frames actually belong to us,
I want to bring them back to the office and stick it in there.
Okay, here's a letter that we're requesting that Monica Vines comes off of the Sheriff's Trust account
and that Clint's get added back on and Gary needs to sign because he's on the count.
And I said he's our most whatever commissioner, so we'll just leave Gary on that account.
So, and then when we get done...
I've got copies of these if you want.
Okay, and then...
Yeah, you may.
Thank you.
Michelle said you can just run that over there.
Okay.
And then I'll get all the other paperwork that needs to be done for you to sign and all that.
All right, sounds good.
My first official...
I'm excited too.
See?
See how they come to me.
Right? I mean, better them than you than me.
Oh, no, we all have to work on you.
Oh, better them than me.
Hey, I got a tough question.
Remember what I told you?
I'm going to wait.
Okay.
We just push it.
The right to privacy exceeds public knowledge.
There's some of that going on with that.
John, if that was my primary concern, I'd be living high on the hog right now, man.
That's just more...
That's just a little tiny thing that's...
Yeah, no big deal.
Well, perfect.
Well, we got Ryan and Jason Riddle on Daniel's County and then myself.
So I don't think we're waiting for anyone else to join, unless I'm incorrect.
Anyone else waiting for anyone?
No, not here.
So I'll share my screen.
So we had a bid opening last week for the Colfrick project.
We had one bid received.
It was from Century Company.
They've been...
Basically, right after the bid opening, they were started looking at...
Basically, options for cutting their cost on what their bid was.
So their bid came in at 1.556 million, roughly.
They'd cut it down basically by 187,000, just by using different local sources for their gravel, things like that.
We did compare these bid taps to previous bridge projects that we've done.
And really, they're in line with what the other projects have been,
with the exception of the concrete and the gravel.
The gravel, obviously, is pretty close to where we're...
What our other prices were after they've adjusted with the unit prices.
The big, big cost increases that tend to stand out are the concrete.
You can see here we're, you know, 2,600 and 2,850 a yard,
which their big concern with that, obviously, is trucking it from...
from the radio limping blast, or just due to the remoteness of this.
So, I guess, down below here, I do have kind of a summary.
What the MDT funding was, you know, the original grant amount was 1.525 million.
There's 222 of engineering between design and construction that are where our contract amounts.
And then the bridge structure or the prefabricated or pre...
Yeah, prefabricated steel per grade was 210,500.
So, with the revised or reduced contract amount,
that still leaves us at a $277,000 shortfall, basically.
And I guess our...
The person in the corner of the stand there looking at it wanting to ask a question is,
is there any additional funding available through the state,
or is the county on their own on it, or is there anything else that arrived?
Yeah, that's a great question, John, and I'm going to start by saying thank you.
Thank you for reaching out, John, and all the commissioners,
and not just wait until you issue a notice to proceed and then send me a bill.
I really do appreciate this being up front,
and the short answer is MDT just prefers to just put the county on an island all by themselves and not help.
I'm totally kidding.
Yeah, we're partners through this, guys, so can you tell me, John,
what you have on the screen is the bid from Century, right?
Yeah, so the yellow highlighted items here, costs are the reduced costs.
On the right side is what the bid costs were, unit prices.
So what was your estimate, the engineer's estimate there for your country?
We were, I want to say around the 450 to 500 yard range,
but obviously the big one comes is the transportation.
450 to 500 is what we've seen on some other projects.
Yeah, close to a batch plan.
Yep.
Quickly, yeah.
Richland County area.
Yeah, so their justification back to you was,
our hall costs are pretty enormous getting from the batch plan.
Correct.
Yeah, and you already answered my question about other bidders,
and it sounds like you had some interest, some other contractors pulling plans or something.
Yeah, we had Sletton pulled plans and inquired a little bit about it.
Battle Ridge Builders, I did send it to Bishop in Malta,
who a lot of times works with Battle Ridge.
I sent them the invitation and they never pulled plans,
but Battle Ridge wasn't aware of it because they joined the bid opening.
Like I said, Sletton was a plan holder and we got some questions from them.
I anticipated them bidding it and I didn't reach out to them to see why they didn't.
And then, all like I said, that bid or construction who I'm unfamiliar with,
I haven't worked with before, they did pull plans and submitted a bid,
however that bid came in the next day.
So, you know, if it was before the, before we read bids,
I could see opening it, but that late, it just, there was a lot of red flags
for a challenge on a fight with Sentry if they were low.
That's what I just prefer not to get in that, in that board with a contractor.
And so, I'm guessing your estimate wasn't right at a million, 900?
Yeah, yeah, it was pretty close to that million dollar.
Okay, so we're looking at about a 30, 35% increase,
something around that 37, something like that.
Yeah, and I think a part of it too is, you know, there's the remoteness
of trying to get this in, in the short time frame, you know, to get in this year.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, this is exactly what we do at MDT when we get a bid outside of,
outside of our guidelines, which, you know, maybe for a project like this,
I don't have the numbers off the top of my head, but maybe 20% or so.
When it's outside those guidelines, we have this conversation.
We recommend award by the commissioner or not.
And so, I guess the question I would have for the county commissioners there is based on everything you've seen.
If MDT wasn't involved here, would you, would you accept this bid and move forward?
No, I don't believe so.
And what, what's your reasons?
Oh, Jason, you're on mute if you're trying to talk.
Yeah, does that, does your question assume they have the money or don't have the money?
Yeah, so.
I think they would, they would reject it at the, at the estimate, let alone the bid price,
because they wouldn't, they wouldn't be doing it at all.
Yeah, that is, that is exactly my question, Jason, to the county is,
I have to operate under the assumption that we have, that you have money available,
that you have money available for this bridge that goes beyond this.
What I'm really looking for folks is, is there any reason that the county would reject this bid outside of the simple fact that you,
the county doesn't have the resource, the financial resources to do this project period?
That would be the main reason, because we do not have the resources.
I asked another way commissioners, do you, do you believe they're, I mean,
given the timeline and the urgency of the project, you're not going to get a better bid if we sent this back out?
I mean, that's a leading question.
And I think that's a very fair statement, Jason.
Yeah.
I mean, we're in the next year for sure, if it goes out to bid, which probably adds 20% minimum,
and we probably get the same bidder who's going to be upset.
And, I mean, I know how this works in those, in, what, in Daniels County type places, because I lived it.
Yeah.
It's a tough pill to swallow, but it's the pill that the rural Eastern Montana swallows a lot.
Where would the county would be more comfortable with it?
I can send a, some of our other bid taps for other projects compared to these prices, you know,
just so they get a feel of what that, what those other bid values are, your unit price quantities are.
Yeah.
So I guess we're, what I'm thinking here, John, is that your engineers estimate on the key item here on the contrary was
it's just a low, you know, with the haul distances and then the accelerated schedule that the completion date
probably should have cranked that up, maybe another 100%.
And if you did that, you'd probably be around that 20% overage, which long and short of it, folks,
is I'm just, I don't want to agree to awarding the contract simply because Centipede 536 has a, has your sugar daddy, right?
But at the same time, recognizing that is the financial challenge of a county like Daniels.
And from what you've told me, the contractor has trimmed where they feel like they can trim.
It's a, it's a long haul and you got to add some admixtures in there.
I'm certain to try to keep that, that concrete in the, in the, with the slump it needs on a haul like that.
And that all adds costs.
So I'm, I'm okay.
I've talked to Jason about this already, guys, and we're on the same page.
It is, it's a bit of a bitter pill to swallow, but this is the vision for 536 is to take care of bridges and help with financial resources.
I don't see anything really out of line.
And what really sells me is that Century came back and said, hey, let's, we can work some things here and trim almost 190,000 off of this bid to be a partner with the county.
And I, I'm fine moving forward.
Just offer up to Jason for any further comments.
No, I, you know, I've seen this probably not as many times as maybe two of you on this call.
But it, the fact that the contractor came down, you know, not quite to half of our overage.
And given where this bridge is located, you know, I think this is our one shot to get that thing replaced at this price.
I don't, I don't, I don't think we're going to get a better deal.
Even though we don't love this deal.
I don't think we get a better deal.
I try it over or waiting.
That's, that's.
I agree.
I can do that and give Century credit.
There's not many contractors that will, that will work with you and actively reach out to try to get a project going, you know, I obviously understand there.
They wanted to go because it's there.
Well, too.
But, you know, they, they could have said, you know, what?
Left it in our court.
So, so John, the email that you sent me with the text on the estimated shortfall is a little different than what you have in the spreadsheet.
When I guess what I would ask, you have, you have approval here from, from Jason and I move forward.
But what I would like is, is an email from you in the county that just says kind of summarizes this that we looked at our engineers estimate compared to.
The bid and we feel like our bid or our estimate for concrete was low based on the, the remoteness and the hall needed for the, for the, from the bash plant and after taking a look at it, Century came down to work with us and we don't foresee if we go back out for bid a lower price.
And we recommend and are asking for an amendment to our agreement and that'll be my documentation to just cover this if, if we get audited in some way and we had this conversation with the people that were in this call and then I'll work on an amendment to get out to the county for signature.
That raises the, the limit of the agreement, the funding table and I can do that. I'll, I'll work on that right now. If you want to get kind of some general minutes and capture in the discussion we have here, John.
Sure. Yeah, not a problem. I do want to want to reach out to her.
The commissioners know that we appreciate them as well. They, they did the structure removal that I don't want to do. They said they would handle that with their forces, as well as that crushed aggregate base core surfacing that they're going to supply that at their pit.
So that's, that's where those two prices came down. The other, the other gravel that came down the backfill and the aggregate base core suncrush is coming out of that state pit that's right there by them that they also purchased as part of this.
So I appreciate the county. Obviously they want the bridge open too.
So I can't, I can't see the whole screen, but does this leave us with no contingency?
So we do have, we haven't, which I know it's about a percent, but we're less than a percent. We have a 10 $10,000 contingency as far as in the funding package. Correct. Yeah.
There's no contingency. So that miscellaneous work out of this is kind of our way of putting a contingency in the pit, but it's fairly small for this size of a project.
Okay. What I'll, what I'll do, John, is when you send that to me, I'll probably, if it's this 277-004, I'll probably make that like 290 to avoid any need for an amendment if there's a small change order or something like that.
So we can do that. And then knowing that when the invoice is coming in for reimbursement, they're just going to be for the actual costs anyway. So. Right. Okay.
That way, if you've got some quantities that are a few cubic yards off or something, we don't have to go through this again. Sure. Sure.
Okay. So I do have one other question and that is, so I see on the total here in both bottom, you have the engineering, design and construction oversight. That's your contract, John. And then you have the two basically physical contractors stuff.
Does the county have any personnel charges on this? No.
Has any of the county been charged into this project? No. Not as of yet. Obviously, if we are to remove the bridge structure, it's worked for the county crew, but it's their regular wage. It's part of their job. So it's nothing really specifically set aside for that certain thing.
So. So is the county willing to contribute that? Yes, we talked to the road boss are concerned, one of our concern. And let me just say this, that we're willing to do whatever we can to help do this.
And looking at we could possibly supply all the gravel, we might have to buy some from a local pit here, but it wouldn't have to be home for 90 miles from Glasgow. We also have some crushed pits south south of Flaxville that we could use on the bridge.
Bridge, if it met the specifications to fill in the bridge, our problem, one of our problems is to deconstruct, we're going to have to hire somebody with a probably have to hire somebody with an excavator, because all we got tobacco.
And, you know, Bergeron the road boss said, yeah, we can probably tackle this, but we're going to have to hire somebody with an excavator. So the savings of $50,000 is going to be a little less.
And if we could just do as much of the gravel as if we've got what is needed, even if we had to purchase it from some of these private pits here, just trying to get the transportation down is seems to be the big cost to us.
And so whatever we can do, you know, we would, what surprises me is when we first started this, I thought we were talking that we were getting a million dollars and then it goes to $1.525 and now we're looking at a $2 million bridge.
Welcome to capital replacements. Yeah, yeah. And when you don't have a capital reserve fund, you know, there you go. We just got so many other coming things going on here, you know, 911 and, you know, the whole works.
Pass some levies here that I didn't think we're going to pass and they pass. So the taxpayers are willing to do something that we have to try and juggle the figures and try and make things work. And it's, it's pretty stressful.
So here's what I would propose Ryan and commissioners that any, if you have to hire a backhoe, keep that receipt and then track your track any other hard expenditures you have.
If there's money left, if there's money left in that last contingency line, maybe Ryan will consider it or if you guys can afford it, just do what you can. But I guess I wouldn't overcompicate the project by trying to purchase gravel that you're then handing over to a contractor.
That seems a little suspect to me.
I would, I would agree. In fact, I'm, I'm glad Jason, you're home because we can talk about this, but I agree. Let's not worry about the supply and aggregate, which I'd rather do if anything is allow century to remove the structure as well.
And make it easy on your, on yourselves. I really appreciate the county's effort. You're not charging any of your personnel time.
Look, the intent of this bill is to provide financial assistance to the counties in, in attacking low posted enclosed bridges.
And I guess what I'm long story short is I'm, I'm open to entertaining, allowing century to, to keep the removed structure at 50 grand as well.
Okay. There's road, the road bus.
I don't know if he was here, but he remembers the stories. They did take that deck off one time and put two steel beams down the middle.
And I think he would like to have them back. And maybe that's one of the reasons or there could be some materials there that could go up on another bridge, you know, at a later date.
And so we would, I think that was one of the reasons why we thought it would be nice to deconstruct it ourselves in a, in a fashion that maybe there's some materials there, except for the wooden beams that are cracked.
You know, I, I, I can't imagine that you wouldn't by, by saving those dollars of your own guys that you can't replace those.
Or I would imagine that your engineer could have a conversation with century on the side and those, those beams could be left on the, for the county to grab.
And I think they'd be open to that. That's one of the last things for them to try to dispose of.
Yeah. That's a, that's a definite conversation to have with the contractor.
Usually we were just right, right in the specs salvage material because those beams, those, those are very usable by a contractor and it's worth their money to truck them back to their yard.
I think you can use them for work ridges and such.
And I imagine part of that $50,000 structure removed bit item was salvaging material.
So, yeah, I guess we'll just stick with it the way it is and, and no one you probably have to rent an excavator will, I don't know.
Well, how about this, Ryan? Why don't you let them work that out with century and make a decision knowing that we would be agreeable to put in the 50 grand back in.
If the county doesn't want to have to do that, if they choose to do it, because they think the benefit outweighs the cost, then don't ask for it, John, when you submit.
Yeah, I think if we had a little time to do some research to find out what it might take to do this, that would be beneficial to us.
If, if, and maybe we could, you know, save some there by deconstructing it ourselves.
We have no idea what the excavator fellow would, you know, what he's going to do for us.
And, and so if we could have a conversation with him and say, what's this going to take to do this?
We would like to know that before we come to that final commit.
Again, it's, it's small, but it's huge enough to us that it makes a difference.
Here's my thought, Commissioner, be a little bit careful. Your summer is running out quickly.
Yeah. And, and you don't want to lose your bid or your construction season over what amounts to a small piece of, I know it's important to you, but the $2 million bridge is more important.
Yeah. Well, I, be careful.
He did say that he thought he could probably do that before the August 19th deadline.
But we, we need to talk to some of you as the excavator to see if that's even possible first.
So, and I appreciate the fact that maybe it's just easier to have since we do it and be done with it and hope we aren't too far over.
I guess the only other question I have and for Ryan or Jason, do you guys have a preference when we put the contract together, if we do the, the bid amount and then do an immediate change order to reduce it, or would you rather we do the contract, our contract with the contractor, the county staff with the contractor for the revised amounts, do you have a preference?
I don't, because in the end you're going to have to have the final costs associated with the project and that's what you're going to send to me.
Sure. Okay. Perfect.
So, if we do put that $50,000 back in, we're looking at $1,852,000 is what the new agreement would reach. And that's only that includes 10,000 miscellaneous work.
What I'm trying to get at here guys is, is what am I amending that, that agreement to? I want to walk out of here out of this meeting and when I hit hang up, I want to be able to write the amendment and put in a dollar figure and then have John follow up with documentation of this meeting.
I think it's the number with that $50,000 in it and the county can decide if they want to salvage it and submit some invoices for that, for a piece of it, or they want to let Century do it, but they're limited to $50,000 in that line.
So John, just so I'm not doing my math wrong, what's 1525 plus the shortfall?
I trust Excel more than I do my math. So $1,197,000.
That's a negative. I guess it would be the $92,000 plus $30,000 plus $210,000 plus $50,000.
$1852,004.
Somebody double checked that. So the $1419,000 is the bid amount, right? With the strangers?
Yes.
So we had another $20,000 for contingency. We're looking at $1,872,000.
Yep.
So that $1,872,000 would be the new agreement amount and that would allow you full 50 and a little bit of contingency knowing that, for example, the 50 might be less and you might not use the miscellaneous work and you might not use the contingency for change orders.
But that should, so the invoice that you send me or the reimbursement you request you send me might only be for $1,800,000, I don't know, but the $1872,000 is the cap.
I think that's a fair amount.
But we didn't quite reach $2,000,000, but...
We can try if we want.
You still have that $4 on the end of that?
Well, it's, I was just rounding it down.
We're going to round it? Okay.
Yeah, just because it's, that remaining amount is just a contingency bluff.
So $1,872,000, right?
Yep.
Okay.
And so I will be sending out an amendment for all the agreement signatories that be in the county commissioners, myself, a couple other folks here at MBT and the clerk and recorder.
Okay.
Yep.
Yeah.
Okay.
So I'll do that.
Don, you'll get me some good documentation of this.
Yep.
A good review.
Yep.
And on we go.
Perfect.
When will you have that agreement to them, Ron?
Well, it probably won't be until next week.
I mean, I'm out here for a couple of days.
Plus, it has to get signed by a couple people here at MBT before it makes it to the commissioners' hands.
But I can tell you, part of this documentation of this bid review is MBT's commitment to executing that agreement.
So this is in effect, this is in effect your notice to proceed to go forward with the contractor.
And I can send an email following this as written documentation.
I'll just reply to all on this meeting invite and say MBT or the Senate Bill 536 strike team is approving an entered amount of $1,872,000 and an amendment will follow.
Yeah.
You guys can agenda your notice of award for whatever them.
Yep.
As soon as you get things figured out on the details.
Okay.
So if you want, Ryan, if you want to just reply to my email I sent here with that amount, that way everyone's on the same page with the minutes, I guess, from this meeting.
I'm actually going to do it right now, John.
Okay.
I will send an email to everyone right now as soon as I hang up.
And that way we have that and then I'll just state that the amendment will follow as will meeting minutes from this bid review will be supplied to MBT.
Okay.
That works.
And I guess the only other thing last thing is the commissioners did vote at their meeting on Monday to award the project contingent upon MBT concurrence.
So I will get that notice of award to you guys tomorrow.
Or to the county tomorrow.
Yeah.
Not to me.
Yes.
Yeah.
The left side of my street.
Yeah.
There you go.
And so that needs signatures or something from us then?
Yes.
Okay.
We don't need it again now until the 15th.
Okay.
I will, I might be able actually to get Wendy to send that over today yet if you're going to be there.
Yeah.
We're here till five.
Okay.
I will try to get that sent.
If not, I will let the contractor know that the notice of award is coming so they can start things on their end.
Make sure we get some pictures.
Yeah.
We'll do it.
So perfect.
I appreciate you guys taking the time and I appreciate you guys working with the county and with us on it.
Oh yes.
Absolutely.
We thank you all.
Yeah.
Appreciate it.
Thank you.
I appreciate the correspondence and being proactive guys.
And I do appreciate all the formalities here.
I'm already under the microscope with people auditing this Senate Bill 536.
So lots of documentation is helpful for me.
Sure.
Sure.
Okay.
Well, I appreciate you guys that we'll talk at you later.
All right.
Thank you everybody.
Yeah.
So.
We are adjourning.
Thank you.