July 15, 2024 Meeting

Today is July 15th, 2024. It is nine o'clock. I will call the meeting to order.

First agenda item is to appoint Michael Thieven as Commissioner, District Number 3.

We'll have the oath of office here.

You've got to stand up over here in front of the Commissioner thing, Mike

I'll go get Madison or Logan.

You've got a Bible?

I Don't.

You didn't bring your pocket bible?

She's getting the...

Okay, oath of office.

I

I

State your name. Michael G. Thieven.

Do solemnly swear.

Do solemnly swear.

That I will support. That I will support.

Protect and defend.

Protect and defend.

The Constitution of the United States.

The Constitution of the United States.

And the Constitution of the State of Montana.

And the Constitution of the State of Montana.

And that I will discharge the duties of my office.

And I will discharge the duties of my office.

Of, County Commissioner.

County Commissioner.

District Number 1.

With fidelity.

How about District Number 3?

Yeah, it says 3 on the agenda.

It says 3 on the agenda, but I'm 1.

Okay.

With fidelity. With fidelity.

So help me God.

So help me God.

Congratulations.

Kristy, you get this, don't you?

Yep.

Good job.

Yeah, we put it in Records.

Okay.

We don't have any claims in front of this as of yet, do we? Not yet, no.

Kristy's got some correspondence.

We'll recess until the next agenda item.

We're back online.

Approval of the agenda as presented.

Or corrected, I guess.

Gary made a motion.

Mike seconded.

We're all in favor.

Of paying the claims.

We're past public comments on agenda items.

We will recess until the 930.

They're just doing this.

That's all we contracted that for.

So I got a hold of the people.

We don't need to list them as a lender on this title.

Good.

Good.

930 agenda items.

Sign title work for the 2019 Freightliner truck.

Because that's why we didn't do it last time.

Because we weren't sure.

There's two of them here, Kristy.

One's an actual title.

That's what they sent us.

North Dakota, sure.

This is just the application for Julie to send in.

There we are.

That's what I see over there.

Okay, it's signed.

Okay, now we're waiting until 10 o'clock for Logan Olson.

And we will recess until the 10 o'clock agenda item.

Okay, it is 10 o'clock.

We're close to Logan Olson.

Contract of fire entities is the agenda item.

So I have three lease agreements here.

Perry Wolf had reached out to me and indicated that our auto policy necessitates

is having some lease agreements in place with entities that are using county firefighting vehicles.

There are three entities that require them.

Whitetail Fire Department, the Department of Natural Resources, and the Peerless Fire District.

So those are the three I prepared there.

You can just see that it's extremely basic.

We're doing a nominal lease.

Now it's $10 and other valuable consideration.

Of course, being them putting fires out when they come up.

The term is for one year from the date of signing and then it goes month to month thereafter

just so we don't have to try and remember to sign one of these every year.

So if we ever get rid of the vehicles, all it is is written notice and we'll draft up a new one.

Because you can see on the last two pages, I have no idea what vehicles they have.

So when they come in to sign this, I'm going to ask them to bring all that info in.

We ran it by Mako. Mako's happy with it.

Just needed some extra paperwork in place to...

Did you read that thing I sent you from DNRC?

Yeah, yep. And I talked to Perry about it. It didn't have the language we needed.

So we'll do the lease still.

So on these, I just need the Chairman's signature provided this all looks and sounds good to you guys.

Once I have the Chairman's signature and Kristy attesting to the same,

if anyone has a contact info for whoever's in charge at Whitetail, I have the DNRC now.

But Whitetail and Peerless, they need to come into my office and sign these.

Todd up at Whitetail.

Anyone have a number for him?

Peerless is Jamie Snare.

And if anyone has a number for him too.

Any questions about that lease?

So this basically is just so that we have an idea of what we're insuring.

It specifically articulates the insurance obligation.

Daniel's going to insure the vehicles.

If you take a look there...

But this at least will tell us what we're insuring.

It's really just to make our auto policy holder

or the person who gives us the auto policy happy.

You just need Michael to sign this?

Yup.

Thank you.

Cool. All of them.

Yup.

Is that a single axle?

No, it's a double axle.

Heavy.

Good.

There we go.

Better meeting.

Better fit.

Cool.

Why am I printer bled yellow on these?

I'm going over here to set one small too.

Recess until 1030 agenda item.

You're basically just reviewing

what the salary compensation board is giving you.

So we're just going to hold the hearing.

We're not necessarily recessing.

We're holding the hearing on resolution

2024-13 which is

setting the salaries of elected county

officials of Daniels County Montana.

You made these three copies.

On the front it also says

what the grades will be

on the front page.

Say all three get signed.

I need one for the commissioner minutes for the resolution board and for my budget.

Now therefore be it resolved.

Blah blah blah.

Until you get to the amounts.

Yeah, you don't announce that.

Do I have to? Do you want me to?

We can say that the salary compensation board recommended the $1.25.

Right.

If you're going to agree with them.

Because that was the cost of living.

Where does it say that Kristy? On the front page.

Where as number three?

Oh, there we are.

Okay.

Didn't know you really got paid for this position.

Well, and the health insurance.

What position?

What position we're in? Board.

You didn't realize that? Not really.

I thought we told you. At the interview.

Well, you want to go back over there and we'll sit.

Well, I mean, it's whatever.

So we are basically accepting the recommendation of the.

You need a motion to accept to the resolution of

2024-13. I'll make it.

Okay. I'll second.

Motion has been made and seconded to approve resolution

2024-13. Compensation

selected officials. All those in favor signify by saying aye.

Aye. Any opposition?

Motion has carried.

And I have signed my name to one.

Here's number two.

So, Kristy, I know we've tried to talk about before, but what is this?

Commissioner's compensation?

209. 209.

So now it is.

A day. Yeah.

I don't remember what it is.

Yeah, I guess I don't have any idea what.

When you attend your eight hour day meetings, you get that 209.

Yeah. Or whatever that is.

If you go to a meeting that's a couple hours, you get paid for four hours.

Even if it's a couple hours.

And then if you have to go out of town for it, you get mileage.

And now you, if you lived out in the country, you'd also get mileage for attending meetings,

but you don't, so you won't. Okay. Okay. So if you go out of town,

say you go up to Corn App for the meeting, you get paid

your mileage for that. You get paid mileage and hotel rooms

and all that if you go to conventions.

Which reminds me, I want to register

for the college convention. I've already got a room, but I haven't registered.

And you also get your

single health insurance cover.

$200 deductible.

It's really a good one.

I don't know how the prescription

out of pocket has really done up this year.

I haven't even gotten mine from EVMS. And just that she got hers, that I haven't gotten hers.

It's like a lot of money.

Out of pocket prescription. Okay, they didn't tell us that when we re-signed.

And there was an out of pocket above the $200.

I was like, wow. I haven't gotten my library yet.

Did that come with your new card?

No, it came before the new card. It was an email, right?

Was it an email? Yeah.

I don't even remember getting that.

Because I don't even remember seeing that email or letter.

Because it really is not all that great now.

With that much out of pocket.

I'm going to have to get a card. But I just got it recently.

Who's the insurance with?

Oh, so it's like a company.

But I mean, it must be, does it cover more?

Like everywhere, is it like a part of the group?

You can see Mako, Montana Association Counties

has the insurance. Also health insurance

yet we do the workmen's comp and the property and casualty through them.

We don't do our health insurance through them.

We do it through this other thing.

And I think it was the three of us commissioners

have all had a history with it.

And we didn't necessarily want to be skipping out

and going. And although that could be down the road

that could be a decision that maybe should be made.

If you decide to do that

I don't know what you've got going on right now.

We've got Blue Shield out of my pocket.

I think so.

Yeah, just go ahead and yank through it.

Alright, and

we are going to temporarily adjourn until the 1130

or recess, I'm sorry.

That we could ask for while this

study was being done and it was just coming out and that was

the amount we could apply for funding for physicians what

he, what the state was saying we could get.

We could go over.

The part of the question is then

whether this grants money, it actually comes from

the state. So it is technically taxed your money. So that's why I was asking

for that. No, Todd said no. He said most of it is from

the, because this came up before, because somebody had a question too

on that before, Lee I think brought that up. And he said

nope, this was mostly from the tobacco settlement. So that's what

I was asking for that, because I want proof of where that money comes from. Not just

any Todd, Todd can give you that. So that's what I was asking

Mary for it. Oh, okay, right, because she was here talking about it and said

I'd like to have that information. That's what I was asking for. Okay, and there's different

grants where different stuff comes from. Right, so if anything comes from the state

bill, it seems like it's taxed your money and that's why we're wanting to know

what's not 100%. So all chronic disease

comes from the

tobacco settlement. Everything out of that is, so is there

a life span for that? So usually they do

it every four or five years, like Todd said since 2000,

or 2001, there has never been a cut. He doesn't see

it for coming. We do get little here and there's, and then we apply for

different ones. That's why our job is based on what the grants are

available. If it's not there, I don't have a position. Okay, so again

I would just be interested in seeing that. Sure, that's a sign of those.

Yeah, I mean Todd could let you know, but that was his, you know, when Lee had that question

that's what he said now. He said this is not, and the $85, so what

happened with the workforce grant when we didn't use those, because we've only used them for

wages. And that's more than a man came in and asked that

they paid that because it goes back to the state and then another county.

What we didn't use went back to the

other counties. So that's why they said, and Mr. Clark

had said, you know, we're lucky because we don't pay a lot of taxes

to the state and some of these other, like Gallatin to give you an example of,

and then we go in and we're getting an equal amount to start with. But if you don't use

that for those wages on some of those grants at the workforce

they'll go give it to somebody else that will. And that's what happened with ours. We lost

$35,000 last year

and then we were able to go for that $35,000 this year. So that's

something Todd wanted us to bring up, especially since we're

losing so many health departments, public health

in our remote areas especially, and there's quite a few in the state.

So he just asked that we kind of bring that up again and that

the main thing of that workforce was to retain employees and that's what they're trying to do.

Because it costs the state money when they have to keep bringing in new people.

They've got to train people. We've got to, it's on there. So that's

their recommendations. They helped, you know,

they funded the study.

Okay.

I forgot to turn the recording on at the beginning of this, so it's

on now.

Did you guys want to do the

resolution from the prior one? Did you get that one done?

Yes. Okay.

I'd like to do officials' wages.

Yes.

So you set

your own wage? No. So the Board of Health Salary Committee

is Connie Woodoff, Mary Downeson, which Connie's out spraying in the middle

of nowhere. Mary Downeson's out bailing, and Carla Hanson, who is in Washington

so they got together. We get a bunch of calls to different health departments

and responsibilities. And that's a hard part. Now even worse with

that survey, that's what Todd and, you know, did. And they did a thing that they were

doing at NACO. I don't know if anybody was there to listen to it, but they kind of explained this.

But everybody's health departments are different. So we're all

you know, the bigger ones have different people

in them to do every little thing.

And we just take on as much as we can.

And I'm also the public information officer for the

health department. And then I run the cancer coalition

and my prairie health assistants and stuff.

So we've got quite a bit of things going on. First of all, county would do well

with the services we can provide, and we're always trying to get something more

on there. But they had the three

with the salary, they did that, and then they used the workforce study

and also the call with Todd. And that's how they came up with the wages

on that. And that was done last year.

Leigh Ann, can you refresh me? What's Todd's last name? Harrell? And what's his position?

He is the headed on and on in school, but

he's our head guy. He signs off on.

Or CPHHS. He's in Helena? Yep.

And I can get you his email.

Thank you.

I think we need, I have a question here that

dispatchers, radio, and the shares

when we passed that levy

was not that the purpose to help out on that?

Yeah, from the electricity usage.

Kristy? Yeah.

Are we going to be able to use some of that levy money

that was passed for the safety committee

or so to say? We're just taking that out of 9-1-1, I think,

and moving that over there from what I've got from Moven and Shawlin.

It's not going to be any coming out of the general fund, no.

I don't know what you guys are doing, but that's what we discussed.

But was it not the purpose of that levy in the first

place, was to help with wages and equipment?

That's what I'm saying. We're moving it out of the

9-1-1 fund. We're paying two dispatchers out of 9-1-1.

Right. So it was discussed about moving it out of 9-1-1

and putting it into that fund, those two dispatchers.

So was part of that two

radios? But that's not my guess. You guys are going to have to try to figure out what now?

Because we're going to try to cover the radios. Yes, the radios,

the locker that we just got, and then the money that

we have along with Motorola, so to speak.

Do we have enough money for all of that and wages? No.

No. I don't think so.

The idea was to take the money out of the general fund.

According to the

resolution, it's to supplement that. Right. So in

addition to what is already, what has historically been used,

it's going to be this extra amount to help cover some of these

expenses. But even that extra amount isn't going to cover

radios and wages.

All I know, like I said, all I know is we talked about moving the two out of 9-1-1

and putting it into this new fund. Now whether they want to move more, I don't know.

Moving the two positions.

Okay, the two positions that were being paid by

9-1-1 are now coming back out of there.

They're coming out of the new one that we just had, the 2300.

It's not going into the general fund. It's being moved into this 2300

account that we set up for this money. Do you have a

dollar amount of that? Like what's that projected to be?

What was it, 365? 356.

Same as the hospital.

Oh, for the 9-1-1.

Hang on.

So what are we getting a year out of this?

I think, yeah, 356 is ringing the bell with me.

A year? Yes. Okay.

How long is this levy for? Four years.

And that's...

The wages come out of that. Well, we don't know.

It was never set up. They just

flew with it, got the money and there's no...it's supposed to be called

the safety committee.

We don't even have. The radios

are going to eat that whole thing up.

So it's really...and the radios are horrible.

Oh, it's over $500,000. We're sitting there now

that we all want. So it's

like either get radios or pay staff kind of

what we're going to have to be careful here.

Well, we're going to take money out either for either

the wages or radios. We're going to have to take up the money.

Now that motor roll alone was...

$200,000. That

lonely took with motor roll was $290,000.

$290,000.

So the money she's wanting to move out of $90,000.

That's a fund in itself. Yes.

The state gives us $945,000.

But not counting the new wage if we put that in there.

Kristy, so what does that cover? Does that cover their health insurance?

Or is that...and it covers the FICA and social security

tax? No, the health insurance is still under 2371.

But as far as the FICA and all that...

So the wages, the salary, all that. So I take that back.

It would be $110,540.

For the two? Not counting the new wage if we're to pay that.

That's old wage.

What was that figure? $110,540.

$110,540 is coming out of the

current 9-1-1. So that will give the 9-1-1

a chance to build itself back up. Have you seen the 9-1-1's

funds decreasing over time with the fewer landlines?

Is it significant? Yeah.

I'll do a check for you, because I can't really guess off the top of my head.

Because now aren't the cell phones now paying that too?

Well, I know, I didn't know if that got passed or not. I hope it did.

The average is usually about $110,000,

$100,000 somewhere in there that we were getting.

Because we had it up to almost $800,000 one time until the city decided

they were going to quit paying for dispatchers. When I first came on, I think

we were getting about $150,000, $60,000.

I don't think it's ever been that. Really? I don't know. I'll have to look.

What's the total that we want

for the radios and that we owe for radioshack? Is that 1.5?

Or is it a million? No, it's close to $500,000.

For the whole thing, what we owe and what we want.

Well, I think it's more than that because we've already

taken a note for

200 and something through Motorola, right?

Well, the idea was to pay that back, right?

Right. I think the original one was

$500,000. That's not the original, that's the change.

But that listed all the radios and everything

like the fire doesn't

think they might go to pagers instead of these radios or something.

Isn't that what Neil said that day he was in here?

I think I kind of remember that note.

Okay, so...

Oh, that's the note.

There is no doubt.

I don't know where that is.

Okay, we borrowed $87,000

and that was from...

$481,000.

And then off the top of your head...

No, we're doing good.

So, the traffic...

for four years for this military, is it

$350,000?

$365,000.

Okay, and I think this bid has

maybe been modified a little, but I've got...

$490,000, that's why I say $500,000.

Okay, so for the radios...

$345,000.

And I had $365,000.

$345,000, $354,000.

So, if everybody pays their taxes for four years at 300...

At the end of May and everybody's paid...

Does it raise it up to $120,000 for those salaries?

Oh, it's going to be more than that.

Yeah, because...

Just a roll off, stop your head.

Like, $100,000.

And everybody's on the same...

I guess that's going to also depend on how much overtime you're going to pay

for the shirt.

What does it say, maxed out way past their overtime than what they had on here?

Let's say just a safe number...

$150,000?

That might be too much.

Thank you.

So, this...

We're putting that all on hold.

For the mobiles?

Yeah.

I'm just trying to get them a quick update.

243 is the figure for all them radios.

Yeah, yeah.

No, I'm looking at it.

I found it real quick too.

We've got so many different quotes.

But you see, the login, if it's up there further, that login recorder,

that's already been paid or bought.

But we took a note out on it.

We've got a note here someplace.

US Bank for $87,000.

You recall what that was for?

Would that be the service for?

Payments of $12,000.

Okay, so that's roughly up to $122,000.

Okay.

Also $125,000.

That's close.

The ratings are either workers' comp went down,

but nothing else changed, I guess.

But then this $87,000 note is...

What did we borrow $87,000 for?

Radios, and I think it is

stuff that was not Motorola.

It's Redtail.

But we're not borrowing for.

That's why it's not coming out.

Because that $356,000 will offset that.

The login recorder,

$37,500.

No, it's the $60,000.

It was everything that we're doing.

Okay, so...

I think that's what happened is

we didn't even hard to get it ordered,

and it went out.

In a double?

Now, this $87,235,

of seven payments...

Is that for programming?

Wait a minute.

Maybe the $87,000 was for the repeaters at the basis.

Okay, so the total for the logger and everything is $64,925.

Logger and everything.

And the recorder and whatever else they have on there.

And then the radio biz, a half a million.

Well, this is included in there.

It's such a mess, because they took that out of there.

Yes, that was included in there.

They took that out.

So, if you take $345,000 for four years,

that's $1.38 million.

The salaries times four, and it'll be bigger than this.

That's a half a million.

A little less, because we just spent $70,000 on it.

And then the $87,000 that is probably the repeaters.

So, you're at $1.2.

So, that's $180,000.

If everything goes perfect, if all tax payers pay,

if the salaries are horrendously much more than that,

if we don't buy anything new.

Right, so...

Wait for the next phone call.

So, the salaries will be a little fluid

in that whole thing.

Of course, you have to remember, though, we're going to be building up the 9-1-1.

You can still buy some of this equipment out of the 9-1-1.

So, you're going to have to fall back on eventually.

So, it is okay that those two salaries come out of that.

Is any of the equipment updateable? I mean, is it one and done,

or do you have to buy again?

Is there anything updateable toward

it would be something a little less expensive?

I believe that would be correct.

Prior to the problem, I get that this has been in the life of years.

It was starting zero.

In the 9-1-1 funds through the state,

it was intended for this equipment to be continually updated,

but we've just never had the money to cover

all the salaries as well.

And that's where kind of this fund was pulled.

See, the city used to pay half of the dispatch bill historically back in the day.

And then Danny Schubert and Danny Chowlers came in and went,

oh no, you guys have almost $800,000 in 9-1-1.

So, what happened to the money that I was paying for that

person that holds the house in town? I mean, what did they do with that money then

that they were paying you? The city? Oh, good question.

You know what I'm saying? Is that money still out there somewhere?

Right, I have no idea what they did. Well, they could be using it to pay,

they're supposed to pay it for two deputy salaries, maybe half of it.

They were supposed to do that before you. They were doing that to cost dispatcher.

So, there's money reallocated for something? Probably the water lines.

I have no idea what they did with that money. Or the buildings they're building.

Or their own insurance.

But Danny just decided no, we weren't going to do that because that's what the 9-1-1 money was for.

So, that could be reinstituted if? Never.

They wouldn't have agreed to pay for it. Especially now that it's passed.

They should understand they're using that as well. Well, more so than we are.

Yeah, so why aren't they paying for it? Because we had this whole thing when they went back

to their own share, their own...

They would not pay us to do 9-1-1.

They paid Roosevelt County 30 grand to do their 9-1-1.

They're dispatching for their... Instead of giving us the money,

they gave it to them.

And so that's part of the negotiations. We need to get back to...

Well, you're saying that they're going to be using it, they should pay for some of it.

Why should we...

When we did that second contract,

because everybody's in the county, when we did that second contract,

when we did that second contract,

I thought it was a mistake.

And I believe John Baker was the one who wanted...

They were willing to pay for two deputies, but they wanted

to separate out the dispatch. That used to be in the agreement

together at one time. And so then it was, well, let's

separate that out and we'll take a look at it down the road. And I thought,

you know, this isn't going to work too well.

I don't think... So nobody approached them when you guys were meeting these days in the city?

Well, we've got a new contract coming.

Our contracts... Oh, our contracts up? No, absolutely.

We're in July, right? It's done

and over with. So maybe we need to have a...

If that was mentioned and then it kind of stopped there, you're right.

So that needs to be redone too.

I don't know.

It seemed to me that this

one note was for the login recorder

because that... We wanted, but we never took that. We never did that one, did we?

Maybe we did. But...

I don't think so. You come up with 60?

Yeah, we just paid the claim. We had to pay half of it now and it was 32, but total

it's 64, 9, 25. And that is for

just the recorder? It was for that one. I gave you guys that had other things

listed on there that Shawna had gone through and

broke out and got rid of. That's what my list is

right here. No, there was a little one.

That was just the recorder.

Hang on. Did you want to get back to this before

we... Yeah, we're going to have to come back

to it. I just wanted to make sure that the

salaries were okay. They're sorry to say that.

What do you do here with the salaries

and stuff? That's why my question was, are we taking

money from this? Well, and that's why I wanted to...

345 mill levy. I wanted to make sure we had enough to do that.

We have

so many of them. This

is the one they came back with the login. That was the 87.

They came back with this one.

This is just

this is what they come back with for the

logger, dispatch and reprogramming. Programming.

And then Shawna went through and got rid of a bunch of stuff and knocked it down

to the 64.

Daniels County logger, dispatch and reprogramming.

Options. I think she got rid of a bunch of options.

She did and that's where it knocked it down to the 64.

But where are the big figures

that makes this 87?

See, that's only

8,000 there.

This one? I don't know. Replace connection

switch. But I know it had gone from that

little where amount to the bigger amount.

From the

37.5 to the 87 and then back to

63. So 63 is the number?

I think so. 64925 is the final

number for the logger and the recorder. And that basically just

is the control for everything.

No, no. That

as a call comes in and

they're talking, it's scribing. Logging.

Logging. And then it's recording it.

So that they have a perfect

transcript. Nobody, what they were doing

is handwriting. Well they're also recording because

it went out the other day and Shawna came up here like, oh my god, the recorder's only hitting

and missing and only big uncertain stuff up.

Can't do anything about that.

I can't fix that.

We're going to have to come back to this. We needed more than a half an hour

for this discussion.

I guess we'll try to... Sometimes we never figure it out till September.

But it's the wages thing.

I know, I mean, but there's been times it's been September before it's been agreed upon.

And then we go back and ruptural back.

It's all good.

But we might have time later today too. Yeah, it could fit in.

If you do, what time would that be?

You said

Mary. I don't know how long Mary will be.

I don't know how long Tammy will be.

I don't know how long Jody will be. Yeah, I don't know this, but this isn't Jody.

Oh, that's super simple. There's other counties that have

actual agreements that they sign when they run lines through

County Road. And we don't have them. So she's going to come up and talk

to us about that. Okay. And the certificate

of survey is... Right there. And then

discussion of the extension office budget shortfalls kind of

fits into the rest of this. It's a budget thing.

Yeah, if we're going to take it out of that SLFRF funds

or if we're going to do a loan through another fund or...

That would be the solid waste last year. Is that the one where we got the

$50,000 and the $50,000?

We got $75,000. Really?

Sounds pretty basic to me now. Anyway, that was the option.

Okay, we'll recess

for lunch. Okay.

Yeah, where was the house then? Baker.

They got this big brand new TV

and they tuned it into anywhere in the world.

Well, that's the new rule. You've got to do all this now.

It's one o'clock, solid waste board and contractor for

transfer station project. The recording is turned on.

So watch your language. Didn't Tom walk in?

Yeah, he's right there. You're behind the big boy.

You want up front here Tom?

You're on the board. You want up front here? I'm not on the

solid waste board? Yeah, I'm on the solid waste.

I'm just here to listen up.

Hey, let's see.

Wow.

This is like too many people for me.

I'll scan one. Michael Lung.

Should I know? Yeah.

TV's over there laughing at me. How are you, Mike? Just fine. How are you?

I just came from a shop. You're not worried about me and Rob blind out there?

No, I didn't leave any money, but I took all the goodies.

Okay. Hope you left something for me.

Built a dreadful gas.

Okay.

What was that?

What?

I was just on the phone with Kurt, Mike.

Really? Yeah.

He finally called.

He called to give me a wish.

He's moving to Texas.

He picked up a $586 million job in Texas.

He works for SEMA? Yeah.

Wow.

Send him out there.

We're starting that job. He's been in Colorado for

a long time. Yeah.

Yeah. I don't know. Anyway,

Kurt says, if you ain't doing nothing, I said I'm busy.

He says, I could use some help.

I'm like, no, I'm busy.

I walked away from that kind of work a long time ago.

Making too much money? Yeah.

There's no amount of money working for those big outfits like that.

I hear you. Try to remember my phone number.

Looks like

best you got three copies of everything.

That's what you wanted, right? Right.

Mike.

Man, I got something in my...

You got a hail to a bug, girl. Thanks for reminding me.

How do you got in there, whiskey?

I did too.

Need a water? I'm good.

We can get you a water. Whiskey and water?

No, just straight water.

Yeah.

Are we ready to go? Yeah.

We're being recorded if we want to. I don't know, Kristy jumped out.

So she can take minutes.

We covered up or did I do something?

I'll put your microphone right in there.

Yeah, this is my stuff now.

If it's covered, then we're not hearing anything, right?

I'm sorry. Can't record.

Big conspiracy, you know, January 6th.

We'll all be called to testify.

It's a coffee cup.

I'll put that right there. Here.

It came from Norway.

It doesn't hold much. Are you ready?

It was super important.

Okay, if we're ready to proceed, I'll go ahead.

Yep, please do.

As far as introductions, where's my sign up sheet?

Right here.

This is our new commissioner, Mike Theven.

Hi, Mike. Another Mike.

Mike was a popular name some 40 years ago or whatever.

You're not that old.

You're older than that.

He's been a commissioner for a few hours.

Really?

Less is not that much older than I am.

You're like 64.

You're way older.

I'm not that old.

Damn kid. He's an old kid.

There's dirt out there that's younger than me.

Scan on SCANLAN.

SCANLAN.

Maybe we'll go around the table

and introduce everybody. I'm very damp in the engineer.

We'll scan on LSC Incorporated.

Mike Bergeron, Road Supervisor.

Michael Thorne, Landfill Worker.

Tom Hagen, Solid Waste Board.

Mary Heberson, consulting.

Tammy Fladager, Clerk of Court.

Michael Lund, Commissioner. Mike Thieven.

Gary Linder, Commissioner. Kristy Jones, Clerk of Recorder.

Okay, well thank you.

The first order of business we're going to do is

I sent less the noise of a word to sign.

You guys signed it and sent it back.

I would distribute these later because I've already been signed by everybody.

The next order of business would be

to, and then also we have their performance bonds here.

I've got three copies of everything. I'll distribute those.

I'll keep one less gets back and the commissioners,

the county gets the other copies up. Make sure you guys all get your copies.

But one thing that isn't signed yet that we need to sign

less is already signed in the agreements, but you guys need

to sign them. The way I've got this set up is

for the county is buy and then

your name, who you are, what your title

and date. So I've got three

of them that we need to sign. Do we need a motion?

Okay, so maybe we should make a motion. Well if we could

see them first, we know what we were signing. Yeah, these are just standard

documents. Formal agreement between the owner and

the contractor. Right.

And if you remember, we took out the

traveling and building of the roads. And so at the last page

of that is the attachment, where less

he actually gave us a new proposal to eliminate those bid items.

So we've also attached his new proposal to this.

So

his new price is $262,861.

That's what you're signing.

If you don't want to still go ahead.

You guys want to look at

top of it? Alright. I've got three of them there.

I know it is. Anybody else want to look at it?

Tom, he left so he'll be back.

You might want to see it.

Okay.

This must be

a motion separate.

You're going to be responsible for the gravel, right?

I'm not responsible for any gravel. Yeah, I'm asking him

to accept the gravel. Well, the gravel that

related to the structure. The foundational backfell

of the structure and the gravel out of the slabs, that's mine.

So that's for road work gravel, right? That number six item?

No. No? Well, we took that out of the contract.

Tom, you want to see this?

Yeah, it's deduct.

Yeah, the ones that we're doing now

is mobilization, bonds and insurance, 29,000.

Earthwork was 70,000 roughly. We took that out.

The concrete work to build the structure is 219,568.

That remains in. And then the gates

and the fencing up on the structure is about

13,612 for those two items and they stayed in.

And then pit run gravel and built in the roadways

of 124,000 we took out. Right. And so

Daniel Scone has to come up with the gravel, right?

And lay it and build the roads.

Right, and we'll talk about that here in a little bit.

So those are just the line items and

whatever I deducted, that's what I took out.

And then whatever the new price is going. Right.

And he also deducted the mobilization, bonds and insurance

for the gravel work and the road work that we took out.

He correlated that back out of his mobilization.

Yeah. And that was about 30,000. That's why there's a new price.

I deducted 20, whatever.

29,681. Right.

So is there any other questions on the agreement?

Tom? No.

I don't have any questions.

So if you want to move forward,

I guess we need a motion approval.

So is that your first official business?

No, I run a certain one today. He's been right in.

I didn't get him off Scott 3 yet.

I'll second it.

Motion's been made and seconded to approve the

agreement for the construction of the

landfill

container site. All those in favor

please say aye.

I don't hear any opposition because there's nobody left.

Now that's the nose of war. Here's the agreement.

There should be three.

Is this commissioner?

Solid waste. Doesn't need to sign. Just commissioner.

Yeah.

I imagine that

my contract is with the county commissioners, not with the board.

Well it's actually with the board.

Yeah, with the district.

It seems like sometimes when I do business with you guys, the board

sign the agreement and then sometimes the commissioner sign them.

I'm not sure what's proper.

That's why I was asking.

Then the attest.

Who do you want to attest to?

Okay.

Come on.

Here's another one.

There should be a third one floating around here somewhere.

What happened to it?

Here's probably filed in a way.

Here it is.

Sorry about that.

While we're signing these,

maybe you can talk a little bit about your schedule.

That's right. I was going to break schedule, wasn't I?

So I will talk a little bit about it.

I was in San Diego all last week, so that's why I got missed.

I don't know. It's pretty basic.

Especially since we don't have the road work in the ground, we'll come up

and Barry's doing the survey. We'll get it laid out.

We'll probably exit out tomorrow.

The structure. Start setting footing.

We'll get the footing forms all set.

We won't have rebar until Monday.

T-tons. Well, it's just the way of the world.

After COVID, suppliers

have no feeling of

no sense.

They don't care if they get into here or not. But anyway, Monday.

Barbie in Monday. So I'm going to take a day to set that up.

Footing Tuesday.

Starting setting walls up. Probably pour the walls

the following Monday.

And then pour some slabs.

So you're saying you'll probably have a footing pour

like Monday and then the next Monday, maybe a

wall pour. We just need to make sure that the sale isn't going to break before

we do the next.

Seven days, yeah.

Barry, do you have the road survey and everything?

What Tom and I were talking about is

once we get the structure up there and I give you the plan sheet,

there's not a lot of staking to do. But we don't want to.

But I think Tom and I, you agree with me if you feel this way

still, we're thinking that we don't want to probably start doing

any work until the structure is there and then it's a lot easier to kind of build

everything to see the roads coming in and the roads leaving

if the structure is there and everything is in place, it's a hell of a lot easier

to bring the ground up.

I can still work around the

completion for your project for three weeks.

That'd be in August. I want to start

mowing. Mowing takes precedence for me. So it might

slow down my scraping time. Make it a little bit

of a longer job because mowing is my priority

that time of year anyways.

If we get an extra guy, should be alright

with managing the network done sometime in August.

Okay, because the last I had heard is they were, the road department

wasn't going to do their regular work during the week

and then they were going to work extra on the weekends

to do this work, the road work

and the gravel work. Mike kind of come up and talk to us after that

kind of set up his plan.

Yeah, well, so explain to me again.

I got two mowers, road shoulders and ditches

above that if I need to pull people forward, I can pull people forward.

We have one belly scraper and then

as it's been put forward for me, I'll be responsible for moving material for the roadway

and spreading the fill as it comes in by truck.

I don't know where the gravel is coming from yet. I've just been told I'll be spreading

the material as it comes in. So I don't know if the plan is

okay and can't get it or where we're quite getting material from.

Tom, you got any information on that?

Nothing definite yet, but Dan Future

is going to send a quote.

I thought maybe it would be in the mail today, but

it wasn't. And then

Roger has talked to Dennis Canning too

about it. So

we should be able to get it from either one.

You don't have any

of your own gravel? Dan was coming?

Yeah, we got a couple piles here and there, not many, not much.

Pit round material on our closest one to town is

at least out there.

Well, probably the variance pit as far as driving lives would be closer.

At least it might be, but we'll race out there.

Well, in the interest of saving money, that's probably

what you'd want us to pit round anyway, wouldn't you? That's what we've got

designed into this as pit round. While your plan shows it shouldn't have

crashed. That's just under the slab.

That's just under the slab.

Okay, so I'm just looking at my

calendar then. Let's just look at our calendar together

here and less. So here's our app today, the 15th.

So you're thinking you'll have a port of the 22nd?

I won't even get steel until the 22nd. So 23rd or

24th maybe? Probably a port. Yeah, a full port.

Probably 23rd, because we'll have the footings all in, we'll take a date and point the steel in.

So 23rd or 24th? For the footings.

And then the walls will be like the 31st? Something like that, sure.

Okay, and then the following week we should be able to get

them slums forward up and get it back filled. Same thing with the

wall, we can't backfill till we have 75% cylinders.

I may have them pull a 3-day

for that wall so we can get going sooner.

I just need to see the results before the wall. Right, and then we need to be 75%

right? Yeah, for 3-day. At least.

So that's a state highway required, so it's good enough for

state highway, it should be good enough for 3-day. Oh yeah.

So really it's good, by the time we backfill everything

and get all the porters done, we're looking at probably damn near the middle

August. Sure, because we'll still have to put up all that

fence, the gates, and I've got them all built.

What do you want those painted? I haven't painted

them yet. Let me think about that, and I'll get back

to you. You know, I went and looked at some of the others around Fort Pack

and Nashoy and stuff in there. Normally we paint them great.

The gates are the regular

chain link gates, you know, and they're all broke to hell. These

aren't going to beat that. Well, these is a different design.

Yeah, quite a bit different design. Yeah, these are stout.

They're iron, I mean they're fabricated.

So I wasn't going to paint them until I hung them, because I didn't want them.

Because we're going to have to strap them.

Each gate weighs 294 pounds.

So there's two gates per.

Let me know, I mean we can paint them whatever color.

Well, we got tired of building these container sites and then people back

and into everything. So now we design, rather than

use these flimsy chain link gates that don't last very long,

we designed a

bulkier, heavier. Oh, it's solid.

Gate that we built, that you built.

This is our six inch schedule 40.

I mean there ain't going to be, you have to hit it pretty hard to paint them over.

And everything's anchored with anchor bolts, three quarter inch anchor bolts.

The line posts are half inch anchor bolts.

I've got that all built, it's all fabbed, it just isn't painted.

And I'll set them in that payment place

because we're going to have to strap everything.

I've said everything.

Are you going to prime them?

No, they're raw, they're right now. I've got them all palleted up and strapped.

They're raw. We'll hit them with a

wire wheel and some metal prep and

prime them on the panel. Do you put a wheel out on the end of them?

No. They'll be.

No, we've used this design several times

and there's no lean into them. No, there's no

they're heavy. But they should

work good. I mean theoretically it should work for a while.

We got more money than you normally would.

Everything that we designed 10, 20 years ago all fell apart

from people banging them. So we went to

a little bit more expensive, more heavy duty design.

So we fabricate these gates rather than

go down to the hardware store and buy something cheap.

So we're looking at probably

roughly, we're going to be looking in the middle of August for completion.

So with that being said

then let's go back to the road work

again

last time I was talking

we were talking about doing all this work on the side.

So I talked to Tom about that and Tom said yeah well

let's just wait till we get the container site done and then we'll

but now if you guys have a different one you want, when would you earn it?

No, I have a crew of six. Two people will be mulling.

We'll be able to allocate the other ones to this project if it needs to be.

But I'll be the belly stripper operator. I'm not sure how long it's going to take me

but once we're complete on the

container site I can start work on the roadway

and we'll get everything lined up from there.

So what I'll do is when we get all done here

Mike for you to spend a few minutes with me before I leave today.

I'll kind of go over the plan with you. Maybe we'll go out there and I'll give it a couple.

Planet Chiefs for you to look at and keep.

Okay, that'd be great. But let's jump back now since we signed those agreements

now we have a notice to proceed to sign.

So I have three of them too.

So basically this is the start date

it's a 90 day contract but he's only going to take

roughly 30 days of the 90. And part of that is

because he's not doing the gravel work either. So we have

a start date up to day and 30 days

later is October 15th. So that's the way this reads.

So we need three of these.

And this is just a one person signature

I guess.

Yeah, I don't even sign it because you're sending it to me.

Right, yeah. You just get a copy of it.

Okay.

Next thing I was going to do was talk to you guys a little bit about the gravel.

So you don't really have

the bids yet or you don't know where you're going to get the gravel on.

So what's going to be delivered yet?

Well it will be delivered by whoever supplies the gravel.

No, we don't know for sure. We'll see what future

it is. Are you still going to stick with my design

the eight inches of gravel on the roads packed and watered and rolled and processed?

Yeah.

We have to come up with another plan to combo the water.

Yep, we've already did it.

All those in favor?

Any opposition?

And again I'll get you copies of all this stuff when we're done.

Ideally with that gravel

is if you can place it while they're delivering it.

It's always a pain in the butt when they

stockpile it and then you've got to re-

first of all you're handling it twice, second of all. And I know

especially in the last couple of years everywhere in possums,

they never have enough trucks to keep you busy. You'll be out there with a blade

and you'll get a truck and then 40 minutes later

you might get two trucks and then two hours later you might get one truck.

So that's always an issue

but eight inches of fill we're planning on

bringing it up in a couple inch increments. We'll rolling it as we go

so we'll make the first pass three, four inches come back

to the second half. We'll roll it out.

We'll roll it and it doesn't sound the best but we've had

pretty good buckle fit on our other projects.

Well you put some water down if it needs to.

If we're dry, we make arrangements just putting people around town and has water trucks

for you to talk to.

Question, Tom Hagan. When you talk to Danny

and you said he will deliver it.

Ok, that's good to know

because I'm not sure how he's going to do that.

I know he's got a couple of trucks

but he's got any drivers.

That's the crux of the problem right there for everybody.

And so Danny is aware of that

that it should be delivered.

Do you have any idea

roughly about how long it's going to take to build the roads and gravel and get them ready to go?

Once I get started on it I shouldn't have any reason to stop other than

equipment failure. The belly scraper would be about the only one I'm worried about.

Motivators are all well maintained so

as long as the material is showing up we'll be good to go

for the completion. Ok, what are you thinking like a month or two weeks?

Once we start

we start, I mean...

Going until you're done? Yeah, I don't know what we'll be looking at as far as how many

trucks we're getting but we'll go until completion.

How long do you think it'll take you to get all the excavators

ready for gravel?

Maybe a week.

So what we'll want to do is drift the top.

There's some decent top soil out there.

And then I was told

to look at the site to have a few more questions there.

We can look at that when we go out there.

So that was about all I really had.

The last thing I had is what about a pay estimate

or are you going to want a pay estimate in the middle of this?

Probably.

Probably.

So when do you guys normally pay your bills?

Because I've already paid for all this

for the gates and fences.

First the month and middle of the month when we meet.

So what day would we have?

Let's say if we hit the 1st of August payday, when would we have to have the invoice

to you by Kristy?

The commissioners won't pay anything until August 6th.

So by the second of the way.

Second.

So maybe you said your middle of the month also?

19th.

Wouldn't that make more sense Barry than the 1st though?

Because we're only two weeks from the 1st but we're a month away from the middle.

So if you get me something by the end of the month then you can get paid for what you've done

until the end of July and then you can get paid the 1st of August for that part.

Okay.

And then you'll have a couple weeks with the work done.

Right.

That's fine. I was just thinking that the middle of the month would be the middle of the job.

That's fine. I will always take your money.

That's a week I don't care.

So if I get you something by the 2nd of August?

There's albums here. I'll have them signed.

Okay, that'd be great.

I've got a structural question Barry. Hit your plan out.

I don't know if I have.

Yeah, it's there. I see it.

That's just the road? That's not the...

Yeah, that's just the site. I've got a bunch of copies of it.

Here we go.

Here we go.

This will need to be signed to accompany your bills.

Three of voices.

That's Barry's deal. I'll submit a pay up to Barry

to sign that.

You need my signature on it.

Okay, why don't I just sign a couple and then you'll have them.

But you need to also fill it in.

Why don't I take these home and I'll have Patty send them back to you.

Why don't you just send one back?

Send with the pay estimate.

Just go ahead and summarize it here.

Alright.

I don't ever have to sign a claim for it.

Did you have that at the bottom of your letter?

I don't

have enough flexible corners

to do this whole thing where these are

45 degree angles. So I need flexible inside and

outside corners. I have one set. I mean I can go rent some.

Could I split this in half?

The pour? Yeah. Do two pours.

The rebar of course will go through.

We're not going to have a cold joint then. How's that going to work?

We can put a...

an expansion? No.

We can just pour and then pour up against it.

But put a keyway.

Put a vertical keyway in.

I've never done that on water tanks.

Put a water stop in.

This is looking down. This is our 10 inch wall.

We would bulk head this off.

This is our 10 inch wall.

And then we would put a keyway. The rebar would stub through.

And then we would put a keyway in here.

So the next pour, this would be this wall.

And the next wall would be this.

It wouldn't be a...

straight plane.

It'd be like tongue and groove.

This would be a keyway, formed keyway.

I just use a 2 by 4 and I trim the edges off a little bit.

So it'll strip. And then when you pour the next wall, it pours in there.

So you want to propose to do that on two of the three walls?

No. No. Just one. Right here in the middle.

So you pour half.

Oh, you're going to have two pours? Then I'd have two pours.

So I'd be four pours total then? No.

I mean you have a footing pour, two wall pours.

But I could have this all set up.

I just don't have these. And I can go

find flexible corners for here.

That's alright. I'd feel better about it.

What do you guys think? I've never done a before. I don't know what that would actually do to them.

Neither have I.

Well that tank at Nashua, that tank

has got four seams in it. We pour depth quarter.

You need another set of plans by the way? I'll always take a set of plans.

That's fine.

That's fine.

I'll just have to either go rent or buy another set of

flexible corners for those 45s. If we turn

90 on those, it'd be no problem. But we're turning 45.

In the long run, if you have to go rent something, you probably would have come out on

doing one big pour versus two pours. Then you got your

guy coming to take the cylinders and all that. You'd save one of those

trips for him. So you'd probably come out about the same, wouldn't you? I'd probably come out ahead

partner going one pour. Economically I mean

I'd prefer you to do it. No, that's fine.

That's the way I did it. That's the way I figured it. I just got to look

and the other day I was counting up my fours and stuff

and realized I was short on those flexible corners.

I intended all along

one pour. I'll just go

get whatever I need from Maycom.

Are you guys using any

federal money like grand money, ARPA money or anything for this?

You're going to be all your money.

Or you're going to get a loan from

the Intercap. Because ARPA

and some of that federal money from the cold hood and all that

that has a bunch of red tape attached to it

that I don't have in my specs. Right.

And so I just want to make sure that there's no surprises that we

then they need certified payrolls and all this other damn stuff.

We don't need to worry about that. The certified payroll

is not so bad. We generate certified payroll automatically

but if it was

you know a lot of that ARPA has that

whatever a steel has to be not only

American made, it has to be American founded

and the rebar and then

like if you're using a machine piling or an art or age piling or anything

and it's available it's just

three times as much money. Right.

We'll use American made iron

or rebar is American made but I can't guarantee it's American founded

and I really doubt it's American founded.

It's probably Korean founded.

Okay. Well I guess that's

other than maybe we'll take a spin out there when we get done here

Mike. Now I got some staking questions

that I want to go around with you on after. I'll meet

you out there. Okay. Not a problem.

So you about to have any questions or anything to say? Comments?

Or are you less? No I'm

good. It's a nice little job.

Okay.

Straight forward. Okay.

It's always good to be back up and still be working.

Well they should be up here for fair though right?

When's that? First August it says.

Yeah. I used to work up here

quite a bit and then I don't know.

Not as much going on.

Couple of their water projects I decided not

to bid because

that city not counting but

being very west don't get along as good as we probably should.

It's probably as we used to. I know they're your boys but

Well I don't have anything to do with it anymore. No I don't but

Bob's retired? Is Craig Pazagan? Is he retired? I heard they're both retired.

He's still around. He's still around but

he's American. That's right.

But I know that they were all buried down some trainees

but we just kind of

they're all doing it

I mean they're all but they're

adopting that Morrison merely attitude you know

I'm the engineer and you're not and we don't care how bad

it hurts the project we're not going to you know

in the old days it was a let's all work together and solve the problems and get the project done

and even interstate there

my son works for interstate

and they're all worth the engineering. We don't care that you

got 50 you know maybe it's a personal thing but you know we don't care that you've been

doing this for 48 years you know so 22 year old

kid right out of college you know I don't care that you

have 50 years of experience anyway

we got crossways on a couple things so

okay anybody else have anything

okay well I'll go ahead and

I'll make some copies of all this. If you want to get going I'll bring your copies out

no problem I don't I don't think my guys are there yet

but this insurance this is

there's only one copy of everything because I don't

apparently the only person who needs to copy is

the county the owner you don't need a copy do you

well if you have an actual copy I take it just because some of the time

my clients lose their copies and this is

their cop this is unemployment and this is the

contractor liability

oh maybe they did send three copies okay

maybe your wife made copies

I know she made copies because they sent it to email

so she printed it but that's why these are loose

that's the insurance insurance

one of these is work comp and one of these is

unemployment

okay

work comp and employee liability

work comp and employee liability

those are the work comp and

unemployment is with the state

and the insurance is with whoever needs insurance

right

okay I'll meet you out there then

okay I'm going to go over a couple things

alright no problem

thank you

okay Michael you want me to meet you out there

go down and have a chat

I guess we're good

no I don't think so

I'll just keep in touch with you on how we're doing

and then once you kind of know where you're at on the gravel

just keep me up to date

and then we'll figure something out on what stakes he needs and all that

sounds good

thank you

let me see if I can find a copy of this

of all these documents for everybody here

here's a note to proceed

I'll take one

hi Mary how you doing

nice to see you it's been a while

you're still plugging along huh? still working?

apparently

I keep giving her more jobs to do so

I don't always agree

you disagree what you want

I disagree

you disagree once in a while? no

couldn't happen to a better person

so do you

do you still go south in the winter then? nope

I have my summer cabin here in Scobie and I live in Plentywood

so there you go

part of the summer here

relatives it's always the visit relatives

agreements

let's do that

I need a secretary

well the planning board has a good one Barry

that's Mary

the planning board has an excellent one

secretary

here's the three agreements

do you want me to make copies of the insurance board?

no actually I think I've got the three copies

okay it should be one

I'm inside of the shop

can I just look at it

I'm just looking at it

I don't know what we're doing

I don't know what we're doing

it's probably an accident that almost happened

what do you think? not here

fire trucks are coming out of the street

I'm standing outside watching it

I see a fire truck turn the corner and head south

and I know the big water tank is right behind it

and this car goes up the street and it's like they speeded up

and at the last minute

whoever's driving the water truck is usually hammer

he was pulling out and you could see him fear a little bit

and this car finally decided

there's a truck here

there's only two of them

one semi-fold over and then Neil went around

why are you even bothering to pull back out

just stay alongside

and then this little silver SUV

that was kind of impressive

wasn't it the last name

down at the triangle

someone said

we got two of these

we got two extras of these

so here's the insurance

well that might have been the fire department

they might be a little occupied right now

they maybe don't

think it's necessary to let us know

that was called the fire department

law enforcement stated

it was a drive by fire working

so yeah

what is that

those are the same as

are these two extras

I thought that was the

fire department

so we just got two of these

and this is an extra

that's an extra

it's probably less copied

now what have we got

just a minute

you messed me up

this is for less

which of these is less

this one is less because he already took

what did he take did he take his notice to proceed

you know

would anybody want to copy of

who is here today

sometimes somebody wants to copy it

would you like to dispose of it

no no I'm going to keep it

now what have we got

they're all exactly the same

copy this is my copy

do you guys have some paper clips

yes you may

okay and then you guys got yours

okay

okay it's all yours Mary

it was about two miles west of nano wiltacall

place between nano and standoffs

down that ground road

headed down the r-y and then veered off

so they're going down to

it's been quicker

I'm going with that slab

on the top of the river

I'm going down there also

we ain't got nobody on that slab so well

I know where is that now

where is that

two miles west of nano

between nano and standoffs

this year to go this way

or whatever now

they have highway all the way going south

I was going to say I'm sure the quickest way is to go

all the way south

they're still on my car

we had control of it before you go

okay we're good to go

okay

thank you okay thanks guys we'll keep in touch with you

okay thank you

you're looking like you're still 45

maybe

cause we keep her so busy it keeps her young

we'll go back 58

almost 50 years is right

so apparently I was a baby when we met

we're not going to be pushing 60 now

no

see ya

okay we are on our

30 p.m. Mary Nyhoos D.E.S. planning

we're going to take 15 minutes so that's why I scheduled on the way I did

so Mike welcome I need first thing is

isn't going to need your phone number the email address

I gave you mine so are you ready yep I am

phone number is 406-783-7600

okay

okay

okay thank you

I need that and it's funny cause the whole time before

I was writing it

I am

I wasn't going to actually enter it until I looked it up in the

phone book how was that

okay

I'll look at the paper I'll look at the paper I'm notorious as a bad

speller so there you go anyway I'm the

Daniels County Disaster Emergency Services coordinator

my deputy is Gary Leder forgot about that job

she always goes

Paul Reynolds Gary's in charge so when I leave Gary's in charge

anyway

well and last and we kind of staggered

to this finish line we did

over there under D.E.S. or L.E.P.C.

I think isn't it under L.E.P.C.

the county has an emergency operations plan

I wrote it on the outside that the operations plan anyway

it's a

it's a thumb drive

and it might behoove you to kind of scan it when you have time I mean I don't know if it's high

priority but anyway but it's there

Daniels County L.E.P.C. drawer and there is a thumb drive in it

that is the thumb drive where the current emergency

operation I did write that on the little sticker outside

L.E.P.C. and E.O.P.

there it is that's it okay and something else

what's the something else well that's the continuity of

operations plan the continuity of government plan

there's all sorts of things in it too

oh it says flash drive E.O.P. flash drive

okay see I did my job

so you can see

I'm trying to be efficient but it ain't working so you know I'll work out

anyway this weekend there is a there is a plan

for shelter and

Neil tried calling me and I was I actually had the phone

in my hand and it didn't ring but apparently that's a problem

that other people in the county are having so I think I'm going to have to change

the plan a little bit to encourage people to start texting me because

most everybody has because I think the texts work but you can't

if you're on the phone with somebody else you can't depend on the sucker ringing

but anyway but he

and to open the shelter which is the Lutheran

center it has to be approved by me or one of the county commissioners

so Neil knows that which was cool and he couldn't get a hold of me so

he called Gary and Gary says I'll call Michael

oh I don't know what to do

oh I'm a pure bread Catholic

he was at the door every Sunday

anyway but we kind of stumbled and got it all

it did work but

communication is our biggest problem we stumbled through it

we got the shelter opened up

and Neil actually knew the plan so he did

and of course that's what happens and of course

our call down list for the Lutheran church is short because there's no

minister right now so and I couldn't remember the third name

I had to go look it up but its communication is always a problem

but anyway so we'll be doing that but we did get it open

it was open

but Neil turned the light on and then Saturday night Rex

was the third person to call

and Rex made sure it was open on Saturday in case there was a big storm on Saturday

they announced that the swimming meeting

it worked out real well

budget they were threatening

to cut the budget and I asked for

so little they didn't cut my budget we didn't get this

emergency planning

emergency management planning grant

EMPG

it pays for half my budget

and well

probably like 60-40 now

because we do have to budget

for the shelter which I can't do

on my grant so it's probably 60-40 but

that thousand dollars for emergency kind of just rolled over every year

so I don't care anyway it didn't get cut

so that should be good and I did ask for an increase

I'm going to look here to see what it was

Internet

our total budget that I asked for was 16,590

they approved that amount

so they will pay 8,295

and we will pay 8,295 bucks

so pretty

and I work quarter time at that

so and Kristy kind of wanted to see what my application looked like

for my grant that you can look at and if you want to copy it you can

somebody asked me I didn't want to

okay so and I think that's

everything for DES so any questions for DES

you mentioned there might be

fire restrictions coming

well fire restrictions we belong to the Louis Town District

and these guys signed an agreement

last time

they and we call it

there's a call every Tuesday

happy reading

happy reading shouldn't have asked

we're in the Louis Town District

for DNRC and they have call every Tuesday at 8.30

which I participate in

basically because Neil who is the fire warden does not

and so I participate

he used to attend but he just doesn't have time and he's okay with me doing it

so it's fine no we worked it out

but anyway there are fire restrictions

there's a burn ban it is the lowest

and then there's and then they go higher

there's

I can't remember the name of them but the only thing we ever do is a burn ban

so basically because

to do the other fire is stage one and stage two is what they're called

they get more restrictive

on outdoor fire you know like

camping and so on and so forth in particular

it's basically open flame stuff like

so you just find out what's going on and then you let Neil know

if he needs to know

we for the burn ban but Danos County basically only does a burn ban

basically because Neil can put it in

and take it off anytime whereas if you go to a stage one

or a stage two you as county commissioners have to approve it

it has to go in on it has to become effective on a

Wednesday and then you guys have to take it off

you know so it gets

complicated and we seem to be okay with just

a burn ban it's kind of embarrassing sometimes when it's really really dry

and I'm on these telephone calls and everybody's on stage two

or stage one restrictions and we're still on it

we're the only ones on a burn ban

but Neil is happy with it and Donnie Hammer was happy

with it and I think you guys are happy with burn ban

and basically because we don't have many campsites

and we don't have a lot of tourists and so it's pretty

and we do have some state land

and that state land like the whitetail

I think the whitetail dam

or you know the water up at whitetail is state

and so they actually follow along the ban

and of course if the reservation goes on a stage one or stage two

the southern part of the county goes under that too

but we just don't have the campsites

and we've got pretty good and the lion says a big campsite here

where you know

where if they want to grill it's

it's pretty good so anyway yeah I get to start those

and if there's something that Neil needs to know

and he gets a copy of the minutes all the time too

Mary does that affect whitetail's party partners got that campsite

there?

does that have any come into play?

not as long as we have a burn ban no

but the stage one I think is only for the whitetail dam

yeah where that yeah

the camp where the whitetail camp ground is I think that's the only

and they put up a sign

the state puts up a sign

I don't even know who puts up a sign but I got told one year

well there is

there's two accesses you know off the highway and then

oh okay and I've never actually

been up there I should go up there and look but I did get told by these

guys

they take tables and everything up by the highway

but they will restrict the fire if the

state goes to stage one or stage two or the DNRC

they will put up a sign

there they take care of it all so we're not under a burn ban yet

we aren't under a burn ban yet but it's getting real

close I would say yeah just in our places

they got a lot of moisture

yeah I had moisture on my windows so

the burn ban works well for us

and the people are well trained to call in

for open fire I mean over the years

they do a good job of calling in

to say they want to burn permit

and then they get told by dispatch that they

can't burn so yeah that works

out real so I mean but that's taken 30-40 years to get

done but it works well

we need some grass right now

we did I didn't hear about it but I heard

complaints about it

guess who did the burn ban

yeah Neil was out there

supervising he did it

did they pay him to do it

he sat out there all night long

I had no idea but I did

when I heard that Neil was out there it didn't

worry me in particular

why wouldn't he do that for nothing

he's getting paid every month anyway

not much

well I thought they were

I heard that they were going to bring them

part of the deal with this burning is the last time when it went out of control

they hadn't burned for a long time I think Neil was just trying to

stay on top of it

well the pile that they had up there

he called me one day and says you know the refuse or the solid waste

I think we should be burning this

my goodness Neil

yeah I've seen it I said there's no way in heck I would

approve burning that in one shot

well there's at least five houses out there

well now that's the deconstruction and that's not supposed to burn

but there is

so to do that work that's in there is my point

I mean there's a lot of tree in the wood tree putt

that had to be removed so okay so it got dumped in there

but anyway yeah I know that but Neil's trying to stay on top of it

I have no problems with Neil

it's me as if they had a burn permit from the

place that the solid waste has to get a permit for

environmental quality

did they even run it by DEQ to burn it

I have no idea

the lack is supposed to have a permit in order to burn it

I'm sure that their permit is

but usually they get a permit for the whole year

it's good for them to get it but they haven't got one

I stay out of the garbage, I know you would like me back on the garbage board

but I'm sorry

I was trying to get Mike now, now it's you

just trying to help people out

can I switch to planning board now

hahaha

okay

couple three things

you signed a contract to review that growth policy or to actually put some plans in the

growth policy

the lady that's doing it right now is with interstate

engineering, she actually lives in Welliston so she's not that far away

so she plans to come over

when she clears everything else off her desk, she plans to start working on our growth policy

either in August or September

and then she'll come over and that's it

is that her name? Rachel, yeah

she's the grant lady too, right? Rebecca

Rebecca Q is the grant lady

she assigned this to Rachel

this is the thing we paid 30 but we got that money

anyway, yeah, the last growth policy

didn't Rebecca Ryble do that?

I don't know who did it but it was before my time

on the planning board, I'm sorry about that anyway beautiful

looking document and so on and they said well you could

renew it for another five years, the problem with it is it had no

plans, it had no actual plans

the last five, eight pages

or something we're missing

so then we had to hire somebody to redo it

and nobody could find those last pages

I can tell how nobody looks at it

yeah, so as Matt Stantop says, that means nobody read it

until I read it

actually that was going to scan it

so anyway, the growth policy

is coming along and we

at the board, we just met last Wednesday

you got your pencil ready, Matt Stantop

and Scott Fischel

gave five names for potential

people to fill that empty spot

Are you ready? Michael Fandle, Drew Baldry, Logan Hansen, Mike Becker, and Eric Linder.

I'm always told I'm getting involved.

Is that why the female person to be on there?

I thought that myself, but you take what you can get.

That's part of the planning board, right?

This is the planning board.

Who went on?

Nobody. We just had an empty spot there for ages.

We tried to get Lisa Thieve and not Lisa's sister-in-law.

Lisa won.

She was like, I don't know what I'm here to do, but I've never done it.

And I'm trying to talk to her. Marty and I both went and I have to prepare and try to talk her into it.

And she wouldn't do it.

No, but Matt and Scott are going to be fantastic on the planning board.

I'm very impressed with them.

Both are good choices.

Scott represents the city and Matt is the county.

And I don't know who's up for renewal, but I assume somebody's up for renewal.

But I think everybody's happy right now.

The other thing is, of course, now we're to the landfill.

You don't have to bring that up.

She doesn't give me a dirty look.

That's why I want to give this job to you.

The planning board really thinks that where the land you guys bought from Solberg really needs to be re-zoned to industrial.

And they just feel like that that has to be done.

I have volunteered to do most of the paperwork if you guys will say it's okay to go ahead with it.

Why? What would be the reasoning to...

Because it's zone agriculture right now.

And they just feel like this is a long-term permanent kind of business and they think it should be an industrial.

Because it is industry.

Commercial.

Yeah, it's a commercial business now.

Yeah, but we only owned it for a few months.

Well, I know, but the process could start right away.

The current landfill is what? Zone how?

The current landfill, we would like the rest of the landfill zoned out of A.

Because this is on day two.

The board would like that changed also.

Because it would better represent what it is.

But I would be real happy if me personally, if I had to do the work, would be real happy if we just did the one.

And then worried about the rest of it later.

I talked 20 acres.

Yeah, that 20 acres you guys just, you know.

But we're only using how much of the 20 acres.

Well, but that gets complicated.

But you see, we can make it industrial and if they, even if they do a small portion of it, they plan to still rent out.

And that's fine.

We aren't going to be so worried about A production.

But they would really like to see that change, zoning change.

It wouldn't be easier to rezone it all at one time.

It would be easier to rezone it all at one time.

And I can do that too.

It's up to you.

But I'll be real happy to do it twice.

Yeah, no.

And I couldn't, and the recommendation was, you know, either way, you know, I, you know, you guys have been kind of, kind of, and I think there was some question because the county now owns it.

It's like you can do what you darn well please with the land.

But I think that, but the planning board would like it rezone, buried in the sentence.

I mean, that's, that's the bottom line.

And we can rezone the whole business or we can re just rezone it all.

What is the seven acres or something left is, is, and that, and that doesn't matter.

That can still be A.

Yeah, but no, she made a comment.

But it doesn't matter if it's industrial, if seven acres are farmed.

That doesn't, according to, according to Doug, that doesn't matter.

So the easiest way to do this is just the whole, the whole solid waste area.

That's what I would do.

Yeah.

Do it all at once and get it over with.

Yeah.

But we can still farm that seven acres.

You can still farm that, according to the county planner, you can still farm that seven acres, it doesn't matter.

But is there somebody who wants to farm it seven acres there?

No.

Well, it's ours.

We don't know what to do with it.

Is there a paying for that?

You can make a payment on it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You gotta do something to keep that from being a fire hazard.

Yeah.

Well, they're grass growing.

It's CRP.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Oh, it's CRP.

Or all that was CRP.

So do we get CRP payments?

Nope.

It's all been taken out.

Not paying.

But you can still, somebody will still pay you to pay.

I thought whoever's...

Seven acres.

Who...

You'd be surprised on a dry year.

What's his name?

Cromwell.

I thought when he was farming that, I thought he was farming almost up to the fence.

I think he was too.

But see, there's, I think there's this hilltop type thing.

Oh, Sammy.

Yeah, I don't think it's very good soil.

No.

Well, 28 or it's easy to, if you're going to buy a home, we might have to expand down the

road.

Yeah.

But if there was some native or planted grass that's growing there, yeah, we should,

somebody should be hanging it to get rid of it.

So we don't have grass standing out there for fire hazards.

Start real easy out there.

Yeah, okay.

You could hay that, can't you?

That girl named Garbage.

Oh, I'll bitch yourself a girl sooner or later.

Yeah, it's too badly more geared up.

They could hay it all right now and get it all halfway cleaned up for us to go in there

and start doing the work.

It'd be cheaper.

Yeah, I don't know.

It's probably getting kind of dried too, like, you know, dried out.

But even if you just told somebody to go in there and hay it, we can have the hay.

Cut it off, take the hay.

It didn't help us as we built it there.

Who's close to that?

Who, hay is anywhere close to that?

Gustav's used to hay it.

The only person haying is, what's your face out here?

Is it Lori Jensen?

Yeah.

They hay the bottom.

Yeah, Lori.

They hay the bottom.

They cut that.

I see they got it all cut in right now.

I mean, I'm sure they just zip right over and do it.

Yeah.

That'd be a good PR thing too.

She doesn't have it.

So, can I hear a motion to rezone the whole business?

No, I think we can.

That'd be on the agenda.

But that's the agenda.

Okay, I'll wait.

Yeah, so I was just wondering how you were on here.

Well, I just said planning board.

So, yeah, no one, that's fine.

You forgot about that.

You didn't want it to rezone it.

But realistically, I can start them.

You could start.

I can start the paperwork.

I said I told the planning board I'd volunteer to do the paperwork.

Thank you.

Thank you.

So we want the whole landfill, the whole part, the new part.

And I can start.

And I can start the paperwork.

The whole 40 acres.

Well, could we call somebody to come in there and try to do them?

Yeah.

Good.

So, that's all I got.

Anything for me?

I think we should just do it.

They could do the whole, the whole work.

Yeah.

They could do it all.

And then when we come in to start building.

Okay, I'll put that on next.

Next.

Well, yeah, a couple of weeks.

No, you don't need it.

Yeah.

You should get back into custody.

You better get going.

Okay, I'll just call me.

Yeah, I'll look at my schedule.

It's not that hard.

But anyway, it'd be nice to have it knocked down because then it would be easier.

They'd have to get the bales off quick.

So, get it cut.

I can say those 10 bales would be gone.

Should be.

Yeah.

Good idea.

Well, just.

It is.

So, thank you.

Nice meeting you.

In the flesh again.

Thank you, Mary.

Yeah.

I'm definitely not going to do what Mary is giving me hug.

God, you guys do go back a long way.

Holy cow.

Thank you.

We'll leave it recording since Tammy's already here.

We are early.

We're only a couple minutes early.

We'll just leave it recording.

Anybody wants to know what this agenda is?

Yeah, I got it.

I got it.

Budget review.

Courthouse front door.

Yeah.

Courthouse front door is a problem.

People cannot move the lever at night.

Like if somebody leaves and they lock it.

It's so hard to open to let yourself out that we can't get back in.

So I know we brought this up time and time and time again,

but I hear it every day from a new person.

So here I am.

I said I would come back to me and address the front door of Courthouse.

So we were looking at the front door prior to Tammy,

but we thought maybe we needed to lower the catch.

Yeah.

Or make a bigger catch.

Or use the catch that is on the door lock and not the deadbolt

because there's two bolts in the opposing door.

One for the regular key, turn it, lock, doorknob.

I don't even know if you have a key for that one.

Well, that's, yeah, because I think we replaced it.

And then the deadbolt is, yeah.

The plate, the striker plate needs to drop down.

But when you do that.

Like Thor, he did the one up at my house.

I had the same issue and we had to do a new one up at my house a few years.

When you do that, you kind of mess up the screw holes that it screws in.

And so you're putting the screw again into a, next to where there was a screw hole before.

I looked at it the other day and thought about doing it.

You can get the bigger plates instead of the lower ones.

The bigger plates with different screw holes in different places.

I didn't get the longer ones.

Because like what he did at my house, I had the one like that.

And he was having trouble.

He went and put a longer one in with the bigger, so when the door, or adjust the door.

We had a guy from Plenty who would come and adjust the door that one time.

Yeah.

Those two little things that turn up there.

I don't know.

I think the guy from Plenty would come and fix those.

No, I think it's the hinges, the door to the...

Oh, I thought it was the little thingies that turn up there.

Yeah, they're a little round.

If you go up in the door, you'll see the round things.

That's the door closer, right?

Does it not have a door closer on it?

Yeah.

Or a new door.

It had a $12,000 door to make an automatic.

They can push buttons.

I didn't realize that you could get longer striker plates that...

You didn't get face-placing over top of your edge of it, back this far, and you know, all kinds of stuff.

Do we have it here locally?

I mean, that's where he got ours.

We could go down to the hardware store and find one.

Right.

Huh?

I think so.

He told me to replace the door.

Yeah, let's do that.

Can we, like, can I have a plan that I can go back and tell people

Michael is going to go to the hardware store, get a plate, and replace it?

Now, which Michael?

Whoa, Michael, that's Michael.

Oh, Michael.

He's Michael.

Yeah, [x] you're a junior.

Remember your name.

You're a junior.

I almost called Kevin Baldery the other day to come do it.

Why not?

Why did not?

Because I didn't know what he was doing.

It might take him a bit too, but...

Yeah.

So what's the plan?

You're going to do it?

I'll see to it.

Michael, he will see to it.

Okay, thank you.

Issue solved.

I will never have to be on the agenda again.

I don't want to see it again, either.

Me, neither.

I can tell people we've got a plan.

Or, like I said, we could, you know, spend 12 grand to the dealer.

Let's see, I've got two meetings on Wednesday, don't I?

I don't know.

I just think it's fun.

Trying to do the subject?

Then it will become handicapped accessible.

That's the only thing we have to make sure it is.

Yeah, let's do that.

Put a deadline to it.

Two days.

Two days.

There we go.

I've got two meetings on Wednesday.

We are all busy.

I've got two meetings on Wednesday.

One at noon.

Or two at something.

One at 4...

3.30.

Yeah, whatever.

It's on my phone.

Whatever.

I will look at it Wednesday.

I almost came down this weekend and thought about doing it.

I know I might mess it up.

I know I almost did it, too, but I realized...

You know what?

I bet you could remove the strike and play.

I need to work fine for a moment.

Probably.

Would it be secure?

Sure.

You sound like Curtis.

I don't know if those doors are necessarily secure, anyway.

Right.

I'm sure he is.

Open right up if you really want to.

No, I asked Jared to come.

We got to kick it and lift up and do whatever.

He was telling us the whole process.

Okay.

I shall move on.

I'm just here again to talk about my request to have Dottie full-time.

Basically, to review for you, I did not go to any conventions this last spring.

I was just trying to save the expense of it all,

knowing that I would have to train someone this fall.

Dottie's only...

Well, the position is only a part-time position,

but in order to cram all of her training in in the six months,

because I don't know when cases or paperwork gets filed or passports come up,

as soon as she would leave, someone would come in, right, for the training purposes.

In addition, I would like to be gone to attend the commissioner's meetings full-time,

also any make-up events that come up for training.

So I am just requesting a temporary bump in my deputy position to full-time

until the end of December, and then move it back to part-time.

And just for planning the facilities and all of that,

I would really prefer to know sooner rather than later if we can.

What kind of dollars extra is it going to cost?

Well, basically...

Just roughly.

So if I had her full-time from now until the end of the year,

it would be the whole year's budget.

So, obviously, I don't know what my payroll budget is for those two.

Since it's roughly six months, huh?

Yeah, I just don't want to not know until September

and have her scheduled full-time all then,

and then waste her budget, and, you know...

How are you using her now?

Pretty full-time.

Mostly because in June, May, I didn't have anybody.

So I had a full month anyways.

So, June, past year, I'm good.

Now we're in July.

Now I want to know because now we're in the new fiscal year.

That's why I'm asking now.

What changes in the new fiscal year?

Okay.

So, her...

Of course, now I've got a different rate of pay,

so that's going to change everything, too.

Well, we haven't decided yet.

No, she's already moved her to the 90%

where she was only at 75%.

So that jumped her up, too.

Well, anyway, roughly right now,

this one, there's...

Cool one is 66.

6,000.

Yeah, for district court one was 26,000

involved, 26,400,

but I'm assuming she's going to go on insurance then.

So that will jack it up another...

So if you bring it here on full-time, woman,

when you're done...

No, she won't.

Because her deputy doesn't need to be trained

to the level of a clerk.

She does.

She needs to know everything where a deputy doesn't.

A deputy's got four years to learn.

Yeah, a deputy can sit there and...

What are their duties?

Whatever the clerk decides.

It depends on what their needs and what they decide.

So every clerk's deputy...

It's going to be different for each one,

depending on what you allow or want them to do.

And Pat was a pat that didn't have a deputy very much.

She just kind of used them as needed.

Joanne preferred to have someone more.

Well, I think that was basically to create a job

between the treasurer's office and upstairs.

Oh, that's right.

That's right.

Yeah, they had a part-time in the treasurer's office

and then Joanne went with a part-time upstairs

so that person would have a head of time.

That's why she did that.

So I'm looking at roughly

between what we have budgeted for the whole year

and plus adding insurance,

it's going to jack it up to about $50,000.

So half-time for July to December is an extra $16,000.

Is that what you're saying?

Plus the insurance.

So $50,000 to $34,000, the difference between the two is $16,000.

Okay, so right now your little deputy

is $6,660 roughly for the county superintendent.

And then $26,400.

And then it's $26,400 for the other one.

So those two, that would be your whole year's worth.

Right.

Okay, so...

So you're going to use all of that in six months

plus $18,000 for the insurance that she would be on.

So that's your difference.

So it's going to be roughly the $50,000

plus what budgeted once again for the next six months.

So the other $30,000.

But her $50,000, but it won't be $50,000 for January through June.

No, but what you're budgeted now, January through June,

so if you're going to take the $66,000 and the $26,000 roughly,

you're at what, $32,000?

$33,000.

Yeah.

So you're going to add another $33,000 onto that for her half a year

that we're going to re-budget.

No, half of that.

Half of that.

Yeah, so another $16,000.

Yeah, for the other half.

Provided she can actually find somebody to go for it

because nobody can find anybody to work.

Right.

Right.

That's just it.

You might not spend an entire dime.

I know.

I know.

That's horrible.

It's horrible to say, but yeah.

So anyway, that's that.

So financially it can be covered?

No, you'll have to work it around other people's budgets

because we have to share that mill at least.

And the Treasury's office hasn't paid that position

that they're open for months.

No.

But we're starting the new fiscal year or something.

Yeah.

I know she had a couple people the other day come in and get,

but I don't know what's happening with her either, so.

She's advertising for morale?

She has been studying.

Yeah.

Everybody, everybody, everywhere, not just here,

but everybody, everywhere and stuff.

That's being used in hard policies.

Yeah.

So what's the sentiment here?

Well, she has a lot of money.

She has a lot of money.

She has a lot of money.

She has a lot of money.

She has a lot of money.

She has a lot of money.

Well, she has to be trained.

That's a point, a very good point.

Are you trainable?

Do you have any comments, Gary?

Nope, I don't.

Well, I would be in favor of it.

Well, on the purpose of her have to be in trained,

I'd be in favor of it too.

But what I'm concerned about is,

come next year,

won't she going to meet somebody?

Come January.

Right.

When Tammy's done.

When Tammy's all gone,

then they will go to work on that.

It just seems to be the way it rolls, right?

Yeah, right, yeah, right.

The only savior would be,

is if they hire somebody down here.

But they're two different budgets entirely.

Oh, it is.

It's not shared.

I mean, they know,

because they have this report,

and they have whatever,

but they do, in reality,

share this will be so much fun for you.

So we have a mill levy,

that's county wide,

which would be include theirs,

include the general fund,

including all of those have to share that mill levy.

So there are different budgets,

but they share the same budget.

So the money's still there somewhere.

Right.

As long as they don't hire,

everybody gets everybody's.

Right, if we increase hers for this,

we'll probably have to,

possibly not saying for sure,

might have to cut back somebody else's,

to cover that difference.

But, they're really late with that,

part of the revenue,

because I don't have anything from that.

So, they're like two weeks late on that.

Well, it'd be nice,

I think, to have a training,

I'd probably, in-house, if you could,

that have money to do it too.

Right.

I will say,

when I go to quit,

I will ask for a full-time person,

for my office.

So, we'll have another full-time person,

to be training them,

for that full-time prior to quit,

because there is just so much.

And...

Well, let's see the smart one,

and then we'll take a look.

Oh, my God, right?

No.

That was a good one.

Wouldn't that be nice if everything was...

Well, and part of the thing with me,

is like, if Jess decides to take on everything I do,

and then train the person to take on her,

who's still trained?

We're still about to train that whole person.

Or, you know, I mean,

so I just look at it like,

at least six months of a full-time person.

Well, I would literally like to see this,

where she's having nobody there,

and then you have to have somebody step up,

and help out training the person that's new,

that's stepping in from the work.

Yeah.

So, yeah.

Well, if she were that naughty full-time,

we'll just have to tell her to do anything to help this year.

You're on your own with six months, Daughty.

That's actually how she likes her job.

And unfortunately, the sad thing is,

is she may be on her own.

Well, thankfully, she has a very nice,

soon-to-be former clerk of court,

who's offered to fill in in case of emergencies.

Pay free, because I can't accept any wages.

I know.

Well, and I think that's half a fold

that she can boss you around.

Yeah, right.

Right.

It'll be good payback, if I'm not wrong.

Oh, God.

I'd love to be there.

God, I would love to be there.

Oh!

Right?

At the same time, you have to say,

well, let's see when it comes to budget time,

how are you working?

She'll get even with you.

Yeah.

So, that is the thing.

You know, you've got to look at that,

because I will be requesting the same thing.

Yeah, yeah.

We do that at the credit union as well.

If we're going to promote somebody,

or what have you, it costs you twice as much

to get that person trained with the person that's there.

And that's always better training than

bringing somebody in off the street, so to speak.

You know, it's training, yeah.

So...

Yeah, and I'm pretty sure, I think,

that he's going to have that position.

I mean, you know...

He's got to look at that.

I don't know.

It doesn't look like anybody's going to challenge her.

They haven't got much...

You can run as a right-in, that's about it at this point.

Well, I would entertain a motion to do such.

In fact, I'll make the motion.

You can free work.

I'll second.

Okay, so that's only from July to December.

Correct.

Okay, got it.

Got to put that in there.

We got it recorded.

Oh, yeah, that's true.

We know exactly what was said and what was meant.

Motion made in second, and a call for the vote.

All those in favor?

Aye.

Aye.

No opposition.

Thank you.

Thank you, guys.

Now, we're going to start snapping the whip here, girls.

So, we're not going to see you down here at all,

or meet each other.

You're going to get freeing her?

Well, no, she's going to cover for me,

so I'm going to come here.

Okay.

We'll probably have them both down here.

Yeah, right.

You like me down here.

Do we though...

We see Gary nodding his head, though.

He's going to sleep right now.

That's what you're not, right?

I figure that one out.

Temporarily adjourned for the three o'clock agenda item.

It's before three o'clock in our three o'clock agenda.

Jody Benson, Meemont, boring on County roads and sample permits is the agenda item.

So here, thank you for having me today.

Here is an example easement for Roosevelt County.

It's pretty simplified.

They don't charge for utility easements parallel or boring.

Valley County charges 10 cents per foot for parallel.

And then if we, in very unusual circumstances, if we ask to plow through a road,

if it's not like a really high, you know, well-built road,

then they charge us a thousand dollars for that for Valley County.

Valley County does.

Yeah.

Valley County's is a little more detailed.

It's an Excel and I can email that to Kristy if you want me to.

We've never had these agreements.

Dennis County has never had these agreements with Meemont.

No.

And I just thought, out of respect, I should maybe start coming to you guys with just,

just so you kind of know where the bores are in case ten years from now you need a map to be able to

I mean, obviously we have a map and we can locate everything and let you know where all the bores are.

But if you wanted to rebuild a road or do any.

What if we wanted to put a road sign out in the ditch?

We need to know if there's anything like that.

A board there or a cable or something.

There's cable.

And not, and then know enough to get a locator to come out and check.

In the past, I've been told, you know, before I had this position,

when we would plow fiber or copper,

Dennis County didn't have a lot of right away on the county roads,

basically because it's expensive, you know, to record all that and to get all that.

And it's probably never been needed, you know.

We still will.

But the thing is, it's nice for you guys to have record too.

You know, you're still providing us with roads.

So I just thought I would bring it up.

Yeah, I mean, I just thought I'd bring it up that way.

If you do need to put a culvert in or something.

I mean, obviously you're going to call 811,

but you probably wouldn't just for a road sign.

You know, and who knows.

I mean, and obviously I shouldn't go on record saying this,

but we probably wouldn't charge you if it wasn't a major break, you know,

but it'd be nice to avoid it.

Yeah, yeah.

But this one that I'm requesting is it's on South Redstone Road.

Felix Gilbertson's requesting service.

Here's copies of the staking sheets.

To it's, I think it's Terry Gilbertson's parents' homestead.

He always got a sire down.

Yeah, so they want fiber to that.

I don't know if anyone else.

Okay, okay.

So the board would be just to know to the north of that junction.

And then the second page is our board detail,

which shows you our specs that we have to follow for any other county or highway board.

So it gives you an idea.

So just for clarification,

a board is just a hole that you drill underneath the road for the cables?

Yes.

So if you want to look at the board detail,

then you can understand what it looks like.

And that's all in casing, as you probably know.

The orange pipe.

Yeah.

How big do they bore?

26, 36.

36 inches.

Because that's pretty much what everyone requires of us.

That way, if you do need to rebuild the road, we're usually under it.

So we don't cause any conflict.

And if not, then, I mean, if it's a major deal, then we relocate our fiber,

which we've never had to do as far as I've been in the job.

So we do this every time you need to cross under a county road.

We need a new document.

That's what I do for the other counties.

Yeah.

It'd be nice to just have a notice.

Yeah.

I'd like to see a map.

Sure.

And, you know, it's hard with recording because, I don't know, legally, if you don't have the

right way, I would, I legally should get a permit or an easement from the landowners,

because most of the time the landowners own to the middle of the road.

You know.

Say that again.

So, like say you, you on the east side, I own the west side.

We would own to the middle of the road if the county doesn't own it.

Doesn't have needs.

Doesn't have needs.

Right.

Yeah.

Right.

But so I don't know if all these permits would be able to be recorded because technically

you wouldn't be able to give me that permission.

But I think just out of courtesy to the county, it'd be nice for you guys to have some kind

of knowledge of where the boards are.

So basically the other option is you could bring that thing in or whatever.

The commissioners kind of prove it.

We can just put it in the minutes.

Right.

Instead of putting it a record.

And then you could just have a right away file or, you know, a Nemont fiber file or something,

you know, that way at least.

Well, or the other option is you can research and see if we can go on the right way.

Road someday.

You can go back in there and say, well, this is where it's bored.

That would do.

Normally that would they don't see you.

Well, we got to wait and get somebody out there right away to locate you.

I've just been always told not to worry about Daniels County.

And it's like, well, but there's more of a community aspect that I'm looking at.

You know, yeah, you might not have the right away, but you're so maintaining that road

and you're still responsible.

So I just feel like it's a courtesy that our company communicates that.

What happens to it?

Like the foot comes along and that part of the road gets washed out.

Do you are you like in the loop to know as a company that, oh, gosh, we better go check

out that fiber there.

I mean, would you know that?

Or would you only know if service.

Not always.

But yeah, just the service probably.

Just curious.

And that would be another thing that would be nice because that way you guys could let

us know.

Right.

You know.

Yeah.

I just feel like it would be.

36 inches below the surface.

If it washes out that much, we'd probably know because we'd say yeah.

But that what is it?

But Valley or Creek Road.

One, when we had the big, the big rain, the five inch rain, I got pictures of that place

and it just took that.

Now I doubt that there was, I don't know if there was any cables or fibers or anything

up in that anyway.

But yeah, it took a huge.

There was that one by Marcel Carrier.

Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

Gary had to bring the pumps out.

Yeah.

It was like this much of the road left and the great big huge deep thing was gone.

And that was kind of interesting.

Yeah.

That's what happened.

I wrote to.

We had a pretty deep hole that nobody knew.

The year Alisa Anderson got married, our road got taken out and there was fiber there.

But it was obvious.

Yeah.

You know, and we've got our fiber stakes.

So that's another clue that maybe you could remind your old boss that, you know, to kind

of keep an eye out for that.

But I'm sure he's noticed them.

So.

But I can work on getting that map for you guys and I'll get it printed out on our mapping

printer on nicer paper so you can hang it up.

Can you hear me Gary?

You're thinking.

No.

Yeah.

You're just looking at me in deep thought.

I thought maybe you're trying to read my lips.

Oh, okay.

So you guys don't narrow this down or you just do the whole section.

I hear you just have sectioned out.

I can.

It is in.

So north is going this way.

I should have brought a bigger picture.

I could kind of show you on these safety sheets.

Okay.

So you're down here in the southwest corner.

Yeah.

But if you want, I can.

It looks like it's the southeast.

Sorry.

Yeah.

It is the southeast.

I could show you the whole route.

Are you not in 23?

We are.

We're going from 23 to 24.

Okay.

I know.

These are, it's automatically filled in with our new mapping system and it's lost.

It's usually wrong.

What section is that in?

It's in 23, I think.

Yep.

It looks like the southeast of the southeast of 23.

Yeah.

And then if you're into 24, you're in the southwest.

Yeah.

I'm a little confused by the designation of the roads.

Yeah.

Sometimes that doesn't match either.

It looks to me like it should be East Pleasant Prairie joining South Redstone.

Yeah.

And that's what Felix...

It's in here.

It's in here.

Yes.

Yeah.

That's what Felix saw.

It's on South Redstone Road.

There's like three to five names for roads in everything.

It depends on how old you are.

Like this.

And they call this one South Redstone Road.

Oh yeah.

I know it's this one.

That runs north and south.

I found that out the hard way.

It's a little map.

But of course that's what comes off Fugler.

But yeah, South Redstone Road goes this way.

Right.

This is Pleasant Prairie.

Yep.

And this is the board.

Yeah.

Okay.

So this is going across South Redstone Road.

Right.

This road right here is East Pleasant Prairie.

Yeah.

So like this would be a BM60 which is a board.

This is the trailer for the crash.

Nope.

Nope.

That's the whole traffic.

So this road...

This is the road we're going right here.

Yeah.

Okay.

Okay.

This is not South Redstone Road.

Right.

Okay.

There it is.

That convinced me.

Yep.

Yeah.

Our sticking to insert.

Until you get used to them.

They're kind of hard to raise.

Yeah.

You can keep that if you want.

It's just an example.

Or I can send you the word document of it.

Well are we going to go that way?

Or are you just going to come in with the map each time and say,

Hey, it's a board across this.

It's for lay-up to you guys.

I mean out of fear.

You said you didn't think they should sign something they don't own.

Right.

And I could, I mean, I could come in and research it too.

That's neat.

Technically.

If you do not want it recorded, you know, if you do want it recorded,