August 5th, 2024 Meeting

In 30, the agenda item approved payroll. I'd entertain motions for any of those

items on the 930. Oh, sorry.

Motion to approve the payroll. I'll make a motion to approve payroll.

Motion to approve payroll as presented. All those in favor? Aye.

Any opposition? None. We vote on the journal vouchers, right? We approve them.

I just say board approves journal vouchers. Yeah, okay. And then the officer reports you just look at them.

Yeah, and was there no correspondence? I haven't seen anything in front of me.

Other than this and then that, one that you guys are going to talk about from my Murphy?

Yeah. Well, that'll be in that agenda item, so. Yeah, so yeah, so that's about it.

Okay. Temporarily recess until our 10 o'clock agenda item. All right, it is 10 o'clock and

road supervisor Michael Bergeron is present. Yeah, first bit, I guess, the hiring of Colton.

I was wondering if we're in a place we can move forward.

We still have to do the pre-employment one. Yeah.

That should take any time to line up, I wouldn't think.

Refresh me on this individual again. He's young. 22. He will be 22 here, I believe, in September.

He's from the other side of the state. I don't have any information with me on hand.

He's staying in town and I'd love to stick him in a mower for two months.

Yeah, it should be able to handle it. Yeah, I think so. Him and Allen would be the crew mowing, so.

Do you think we're going to have to have a water truck following?

I'll play by ear. Yeah, we have one of our sprayers rigged up for fire suppression, so

if it's necessary we'll accommodate. I don't think it'll run too much interference with

other projects, so just shut the blade down over there and whichever given district.

See, we have Neil. Yeah, we do. Tomorrow at 10. He's kind of stumbled across a situation where

we could get another vehicle, probably free. Well, they had some troubles with their command

vehicle on the last fire. Yeah, I see it's about several photos. Yeah. So he said, well, if

you don't have a use for this half done, I think it's a super cab. Maybe it's a crew

pickup that we can probably just get our hands on. I said, if the fire department doesn't use it,

I said, I'm pretty sure the road crew could probably use it, thinking it was spray or pickup.

It might be too good for that. I don't know, but it's got air conditioning that works.

Yeah, half done. It wouldn't be head duty, but it would carry a sprayer.

Oh, we're kind of well off as far as our rigs right now. Our main service vehicles out there.

I think Todd's is the one that's sitting up there mileage-wise. We're starting to get

little problems with it as a blade, but it's been electrical. We've had them down a little point

to the Fox board. It's been dealt with. It's vehicles driving a heck of a lot better now,

but I think generally as we're sitting all right. In the folders, I handed out the regular

information on the blades where they've been. On the other side, the diagram is,

I believe we need an oil cooler for one of our, that new mower we bought, the 4105.

The oil's getting hot. It's driving the mower kind of poorly. That and we're melting out our

sight glass in the back of that thing. So we ended up with a leak on it.

Once we're getting like the nineties or whatnot mowing, she heats up pretty good.

And pretty sure we're going to have to go the routes of getting the cooler put on there just

to keep everything manageable. Talking to mowers, it's middle of the day when it gets heat,

the heat really rolling afternoon, it starts mowing poorly as well. So I think we're just

going to have to do the cooler on there to try and manage that. Unfortunately, it's going to be a

nice little bump there. Five grand. You're starting on the west side this year? Yeah, we're going to

start peerless, move away to the east. I don't think we've ever, since I've been working here,

we've always started east, move our way to the west. So we'll switch it up this year and

push it through.

Yeah, there's some spots as Kosha are dank resistant, but having our spray program will be

updating what we're going to be putting out for us chemical wise next year. And we should

everything be clear. Kosha, we were spraying cornstain this year, it wasn't quite knocking

down that Kosha, we'll be adding some 240 probably along that line, kind of take care

of everything on the road, at least that's planned. I was under the idea that we could only spray

glyphosate, it's on our road surfaces, that's what Craig had always gone by. And it turns out that

came from Sheridan County, the old road supervisor over there, he was caught up on it for some reason

that we could only spray glyphosate. So Craig went on that same boat. I talked to the

spray gal in Glasgow, Dan and the young. And no, she said there's no such thing we can spray

whatever is necessary to cure weed problems. So yeah. Not every road, but there's a couple out

there that the Kosha is pretty, pretty heavy. Well, it comes back so easy. You spray that stuff

in town. What's that? Whatever kills the Kosha. We don't spray anything restricted, so it's,

you can. No, but like me, what can I spray in town for mine? You can be able to spray the same mix

that we've got. I don't know of the availability of it for that, but. And then the other slip in

there was a quote for transmission replacement from a double D. The little gold pickup, I usually

use it for running parts or short little trips to check things out. And one of those days when

we were about 100 degrees, the transmission started slipping on me bad and took it in there.

Right now it drives fine and cool, but it's kind of like, I don't mind driving around town. I won't

take it on trips out of town. Just, I don't want to end up stuck somewhere. But they're recommending

time for new transmission in that vehicle. I think that was actually the last month I had that

written up for. I just kind of forgot to bring it in with me. And as far as having it done right away,

like I said, I've been using it as a parts pickup or running up here and such. It drives fine,

but I do know once that, if I'm making longer trips and the fluid warms up, it does start

acting a little funky. So I could probably hold off into that till later in the winter, spring

time, whatnot, see where we're sitting. If slip it in right at the end of the budget anyways.

But the mower tractor, I definitely think we should go off getting that taken care of because

if it starts warming up in again, we have two months of mowing ahead of us. So yeah.

It'll just be the proper fix.

That's for the one of them newer John Deere tractors.

Yeah, that's for the newer one. We just picked up the 4105.

The 6420, we just did a bunch of work to the air con in that we placed blower motors. I got it all

cleaned up and it's still running good. We got a leak in there though. We have to go chase them

and still that they will be a prank chef, prank car. There's a seal on the engine that's leaking.

It's going to end up being a rebuild anyways. So kind of put it off last year, but might have to

get her checked in here this year for that.

Not much food in them? Yeah.

For transmission, for paint? I didn't know they will not much evidently it ain't gallons.

No, of course.

It's probably 15 quarts though, I suppose, like that 12 or 15.

Oh, it's very easy to do.

They blow all that out so you can go through the lines and through the fluid.

I would say that you're going to have to get the cooler probably. I mean either that or you get

more capacity and more capacity doesn't cool it so much. Yeah, so the 6420 I think we're sitting

about another, I'm not sure the numbers, but we're almost double capacity on that.

You've never really had a problem with the heating issue. So this new motor takes a different spot

and there's a lot of run around to it and just the fix we're able to throw on there.

I think this is going to last us to do the trick for it. Get it done now and should

go for the life of the mower anyways.

I didn't know if this would come with a temp gauge or do you have a trending temp gauge?

So this hydraulic system is completely separate from the tractor.

There is a temp, no there isn't, there's a pressure gauge on there so we don't have a temp on there.

You know how they take it back, the sight glass has one.

The last one, I don't know, somehow we ended up installing it upside down.

We've been through three of them so far. The plastic bubbles out and there's our next leak.

Just had a crack on that tank, we ended up fixing, welded it up, seems to be holding pretty well.

Well it's got to be pretty warm if you're mounting piece of plastic sight glass.

Yeah, yeah. The first one gets 250 degrees at least. That's high.

You know, the first one that, I don't know, the toxic got super cloudy.

You couldn't even tell how much oil was in there except for where it was leaking behind it.

Oh yeah, I don't know about that one. I got to do that on that loader tractor,

or else everyone's well, can't see it anymore.

What about thinking about the pickup, you guys?

Did we hold off her?

What do you mean on that, the transmission on the pickup?

It's still going to be, I mean, even if we jump, like,

it's going to be a few weeks before they got it in there.

Honestly, with our other trucks, everything's going good. I mean, it wouldn't be a thing to

push that off till springtime. Just get it taken care of there. That way if we have some big

thing come up in the middle of winter, which we could, yeah. That's just something I'm making

y'all worth. Whatever you recommend and do us, you know, if you think you can hold on for a while,

I don't have an issue with it. It's doing fine. Give me the courthouse and back.

Make them a day when you need to go further than that.

Well, yeah, it's a little cheaper on the gas than running the big rings, but

been over to Wilson a few times. You're trying to get parked straight out.

I'm glad I fixed my air conditioning.

Yeah, that's a $4,000 bill. Didn't we buy a damn pickup for $6,000?

$6,500, yeah.

To pick up sound. I mean, if we get by without it for right now.

Yeah, I'm the one that drives it. So, yeah, I'll be able to keep tabs on it pretty close.

If it ends up being more of an issue, I'll bring it up again in the future, but

yeah, I just came across this morning, so I figured I'd push it out and so you guys are aware.

And then I haven't been able to get a hold of the guy, but a Mitch, I guess he has something to do

with the construction going on over Vlaxville. He left a message or something about us doing a road

over there. I don't know if he contacted anybody else, but I tried to get in the hold of him this

morning and I haven't made a call back. To do the streets? I don't know if it's a street. He's

in the message you left, you just said road. I don't know what that's entailing, but I kind of

thought we were, I don't know, Vlaxville is their own thing, isn't it? I imagine they're

they're in a process of laying the roads in Vlaxville right now, and I'm wondering if that

now, North Road, Vlaxville, on the north side down upper, it's a county road up to

all the roads, the both west? Yeah, the one that's north of Vlaxville, right on the edge,

that road. See, that's a county road. Okay, that one would be the one that goes north of the

fertilizer plant, you're saying? No, it goes out to Curtis Cromwells. Yeah. But that road? Yeah.

About a mile and a half, somewhere around here, to the highway. I mean that'd be the only road

that I could think of there. Yeah, I tell you no. I called back and no answer. I might take a drive

over there, see if that road is what's torn up, and yeah, I guess that's unless it's streets,

but if he's just saying road, that's the road I would guess. What are they doing over there? No,

pipeline, you know, they're going to get up. Okay. Now they're, now they're laying the roads,

and they're going to grapple. To the lagoon, or? That is just, that is part of the road, yeah. Okay.

Yeah, it's just to the north side of town, right past the county road. So, yeah, no,

I just had a random message left on the machine in the office, and I don't know if they'd contact

anybody over here, but nope, I'll just go make a couple more calls.

Okay. Is there any more on that solid waste road?

No, they haven't finished with the loading dock yet, and it should be here next week. I'm able to,

well, from the plans we've set in, should be next week. I'm able to start scraping that,

and then scraper's ready to go. I talked to Mike at the landfill, see if they could pull those

fence posts along there, along the border, and should be all right to move forward with that.

It's going to have been nice if somebody would have cut that out there.

You got rid of some of that. Oh, yeah. I don't know, the equipment they've been using to do that

work has trampled everything down pretty good, but once that belly scraper gets going, it doesn't

really slow down too bad. Well, I was just thinking, somebody mentioned it at one of our meetings

here last night. It'd been nice if they could have got a limited load of that grass.

Shorted up pretty easily. Did they find someone to bring the ground? That I don't know yet.

I remember. Yeah, that was on the agenda to talk about, but our road crew, not a road crew,

solid waste crew didn't show up, not even one.

They're not there. We don't know really what the hell's going on out there.

Well, Tom's a lot of the loss when he started with the action, so that he had a couple of people

that were going to get reports for growls. Right, right. Canning. I think canning is still a 12-50er.

And then Danny was ill, right? Yeah. And we hadn't heard from Danny.

And as far as when it comes time to spread it, the center district blade is going to be the one

I'm shutting down to pull off to that. He's had plenty of time out there at Blade. He's been

making pretty good tracks out there for hours-wise. So at least to the paperwork, he's ahead. So I'll

pull that machine in and maybe do the spreading once that's settled. Well, hopefully get settled

anyways. I don't think we quite have the oomph down there quite yet to take care of all that

much material. Um, is there any- you looked at that gravel up there at the-

Larson pit? Yeah, Larson pit. Can any of that be used, do you think? The stuff Richard Carrier

asked me to go out there and take a look at it. And that pile along the highway, it looks like it

rejects from when they crush the other stuff. It's really sandy. I don't- it's not going to pack

very well. I just think the long run, as far as that being, uh, road base over there, it's not

going to be the best of stuff to use. It just- it's never going to set up. Um, the crush stuff

that we have over there we used to make, uh, we were using to make asphalt, that might work pretty

decent in there, just for that, uh, base layer. Here are some for us to build up from. It's nice

fractured material and still got some binder in there. So it wouldn't be too bad, but I don't

think we want to make a whole road out of it. No, I- we were just thinking of kind of like a

waist or something. Sure, sure. And it's very well good. I mean, I still have seven rolls of

geocloth if you really wanted to get fancy with it and, uh, give us a good separating layer down

there. How much- how deep- refresh me, how deep were you supposed to go down with the scraper

debris fill? He had his numbers at eight inches. Oh. That's what he's been kind of been telling me.

Eight inches is going to be, I don't know, when the fill- if we're going to dig down eight inches,

when we come in to start hauling material, that's going to be quite a bit. I mean, uh,

I'd rather have to sit down, run some numbers, but there's going to be a lot of truck traffic in

there bringing that material back in. What did we do with that 80 inches of dirt? Uh, he's got it

in the plans for me to stockpile it right next to the existing road, going down to dump- dump,

and they're going to use that material to cover the existing dump- dump ground.

There's some rows of dirt alongside that road now. Where did that come from? Uh, stuff they dug

up from their- where they're excavated to put the- the pit. Yeah. The- they had a side dump.

They're just shoveling it right over. I don't know. I'll have to go over there and flatten it out.

I'll just build up from that area and, yeah, have a good old stockpile sitting overburden.

Do you ever get the truck yet? Nobody go get it? No.

Well, we can't cover the landfill till the truck's here, right? In the container.

Oh, goodness.

Oh, I had some point to ask about, uh, driver to get that truck and, um,

that Mike I was talking to, I was like, well, what- why do you need a class A, you know? It turns

out, doesn't meet the weight requirements, so they got class Bs. He's- they're able to go get it.

And, yeah, as far as, uh, you're talking about the truck for the new dumps or something, right?

The truck. Yeah. Apparently, it's not, uh, the weight rating on it. The class Bs should be able

to go over, pick it up and drive it back from at least chatting with them.

You can buy your permits for that, can't you? At the scale?

I'm not positive. I paid my 25 bucks for the interstate, so, you know, I was only like 20

bucks or something. I got my CDL, so I've never had a deal with them. I think it'd be easier.

No big, uh, bounds anyways. Um, got the mowers over to Peerless this morning and,

yeah, gonna take advantage of this cool weather and run it. Um, hopefully this, uh, parts where

this will show up reasonably timed and we'll just probably do it in the field.

There's only one length of hose we'll have to buy,

because, uh, that goes on the return side from the pump or the motor, excuse me. So,

shouldn't be too bad of installation. I think it'll only a day.

I'll make a motion to-

I'll second it.

Motion made and seconded to, um, buy a cooler for the mower for the road department. All those

in favor, please say aye. Aye. No opposition. Go for it. Get it coming. Awesome. Yeah.

Uh, and as far as higher net guy, go for it, I'd say. Fantastic. Yep. I thought,

I thought it was already done, but you need a motion for that. I'll so move

to higher Colton. Colton, Colton Nelson.

Ending the pre-employment. Correct.

Okay. Is there a second? Also.

All those in favor of the hiring of the applicant, please say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposition?

Do you want to keep your energy? Yeah. You want yours? No, I got my energy.

Just re-using the folders.

We're lifeline people re-use. Re-establish. Thank you. I couldn't get matching colors.

Sounds good.

Well, fantastic. Other than that, everything's smooth as silk. So far so good.

As far as the FEMA stuff, I still need to get some pay stubs. I forgot about that last week,

so I'll come in and bug you Wednesday. Yeah. So, play this week. Some more information,

send off to statewide, and then hopefully, here's some more information on that side.

Ideally, anyways. Please get him to start writing checks, I hope.

And you got the new pick-up balls hooked up in the spray or everything? Yeah.

What was it? They still need to come in and sign a claim form for it,

so we actually had it in the field service pool before we even paid for it. So,

we're all taking care of the own house. It's insured. Yeah. Yeah.

Did you give that to Perry to put it on the insurance?

I'm pretty sure we did. I'll double check here when I leave.

But yeah, let's say everything else has been going pretty smoothly. Not too big.

Still only one gravel truck service will at the moment, but I just got to pick a day. We got to

pull the airlines and electrical out of the frame to be able to weld on it. Last time we did it,

we melted every airline in there and it would have ended up being a mess.

But we're learning from our mistakes, dang it.

Sure, I shortcut it and think you can get by, and that generally sometimes doesn't work.

I think he thought he had some work ground and figured he could get it without melting everything

and melt it every single one of those lines in there. That was a day.

As long as you connect the right ones up again.

That took some trial and error, but we got it done then.

Then we got one we have to replace. Pretty sure we're going to have to go through and replace

all the slack adjusters. The brakes never stay in adjustment. About two weeks running the trailer

and no brakes whatsoever. We think it's down to being the slack adjusters. That'll probably be a

project here after Mowing's finished, some shop time ready for wintering or excuse me,

grappling in the winter. Another day. Sounds good.

Well, awesome. I suppose if I have any update about our little transmission problem, I'll

definitely keep you guys informed. Bring it up in the next meeting if anything.

But no, that's all I really have to cover with this meeting anyways.

Thank you. Thanks for coming in.

Well, awesome. Thanks for letting me get the part test close. Should make that moment go a

little bit better. The tractor itself's been good, but that oil has just been

it's been an issue, so I'm hoping this is going to be our fix. Everything I've been told, this is

going to accommodate it anyways. Electric fans, so then you get to run some electric too, eh?

Yeah, that's a big deal. That's going to take too much.

All right.

Well, fantastic. Thank you for your time. Thank you. Thank you. Y'all have a good day. Yep.

Okay, it is 10.30 and on the agenda is the airport grant amendment and a couple other

reimbursement documents.

Geez, this stuff is...

$973 local share. I got it. Yeah, I'll pass it to you. I looked at it already. Oh, I had a schedule.

Oh, good for you. I wanted to get it. Yeah, I actually haven't had it included with the other stuff, so...

You've seen this chairman or vice chair, Rinder? Yes.

A motion to approve it? Sure. Got it.

You're going to approve it all as one big long thing? I think so. It all works the same, right?

Motion made and seconded to airport grant amendment request and outlay reports request for

reimbursement twice and the airport federal financial report.

All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. No opposition. The motion has carried and

we will temporarily recess until our 11 o'clock agenda item. We're on our 11 o'clock

hearing the budget appropriations. Please continue. Okay, so when we get unanticipated revenue

into the county, we have to budget for it. We have to appropriate it into a budget.

Then when we're moving stuff like to compensate for a budget being in the hall, we have to

account for it. So that's what the budget voucher is doing. It's moving it, fixing it,

budgeting the money for like the loan for the IGT or the IGT piece, the intercap loan.

This just is a legal way of doing it. Yes. Yeah, we have to account for it.

And we don't normally get revenue that we don't expect to spend, but when we do, this is what

happens. So you understand? Can you make a budget? No, we did it last year. It's basically moving

a revenue into offsetting it with the expenditure so that it shows that we are accounting for some

and then the one for the extension office, we're taking from one fund into the other to account

for the budget that got missed. Might be a little off subject, but we still have ARPA funds? Yes,

and that is off subject. But yes, that and the remaining money of this, we're going to have to

do by December 31st, we have to appropriate it to something or we lose it. How much is that?

That's like 36,000. We just have to do an appropriation of what we're going to spend that on

by December 31st. And it's still category, we can talk about it later, let's... Yeah, so...

Yeah, that's part of the... Well, this looks like it has to be done.

Yeah. Right. You just want one side? I need all three. Yeah. Oh. Because one's for the

arm and one's for the budget thing and one's for the thing. Would it entertain the motion?

So move. I'll second it.

All those in favor? I. I'll pass back. Any opposition? Oh, I, I said.

Unanimous.

We will temporarily recess until our 1130. We're hitting our 1130 early. Please proceed.

Okay. The agenda item is just for the public service loan forgiveness.

It's just certifying that Daniels County is my employer. I sent it over to Christie last week.

I think it's just an e-signature deal. So it's just asking you guys to confirm that I am in fact

an employee of Daniels County. And I submit that to the Department of Education.

It's pretty simple. It's pretty painless. Yeah. Yeah. I just have to do it every year

and hope that nobody cancels the program for a period of 10 years because they like to cancel

the program for one year and restart you on your qualified payments and federal government stuff.

So do we got a form or something? Well, we have to dock. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. We can probably do that.

Great. We need a motion, please. I'll make a motion. I'll second. Motion made and seconded to sign

the document for our gainfully employed county attorney. All those in favor. All right. There is

no opposition unanimous. It's a done deal. Perfect. I appreciate it guys. Thank you. We're going to

recess on a clock on our agenda and we have now more state representative candidates in our presence.

So here we are. Recording.

Happy to be here. See what I can do for Scobie Montana and Daniels County and Northeastern

110 in general. Right. Right. You said you had a meeting Thursday? A meeting Thursday in Glendive.

It's not exactly what the acronym is for it, but it has to do with we're meeting with Dawson

College Dawson Community College and you know high schools working together for

credits and that type of thing kind of a leadership meeting. The chairman of the

cabinet position of labor asked me to come. Sarah Swanson, if you know who she's from

Glasgow. Yeah, I know sir. That's who's who's invited me. Good. So it's their quarterly meeting,

I think is what it is. So hopefully you'll learn learn something. I'm meeting with the department

of environmental quality tonight in Glasgow and I guess that's water issues.

So anyway, big learning curve, but trying to check in with everybody and make sure that you

all have my number for what you know issues that do come up and anything that you might

because I don't have a general election, I can put draft bills right now.

And the sooner you get them in the higher on the agenda you are for the year.

Are we still good with that number? Yes. Thank you. So that's why I'm trying to make connections now

because you can get three bills in and really all you need is the topic and if you get them in

and three of them can even be changed around. But the sooner I can get any topic in the quicker

it is in the session comes up. So that's why I'd like to try to touch base with people now and let

them know. And if you have, I mean, if there are issues that you can see a bill, a possibility of a

bill, let's try to throw the idea out there or see their staff is out there already and they're

telling me they'll look and see if anything like it has been presented before and if it,

you know, why it did pass and what we could change or if somebody else has a similar idea,

maybe we can work together. So I'm sure you guys know more about this stuff than I do but this

is what I'm learning. So from what I gather, don't get discouraged on this state land because

these two people put a lot of time into it and they're getting nowhere. Well, and you know what,

and that's kind of the same thing with the veterans as I've been working with them and I got

it as somebody, an audience now that's on the federal level and the state level. And I said to

them, I'm not naive enough to know that everybody before me hasn't tried it, but we can't give up.

So we'll try. We'll, you know,

try to go at a different angle or something. I don't know, but let's see what's.

So you're just formulating right now? You haven't got anything real sticking out at you that would

be positive to proceed? I can't, the one thing that the state land that they didn't, I'll move up

here so you don't have to train me now. The one thing that the state land that we were struggling

with was all the other counties weren't interested in redoing the entitlement formula and I know that

word came out in Senate Bill 442 about redoing it. We lose money off of the new entitlement,

the way that they've got that compared to the way it, because we were actually getting

the pittance of pilt before and places like Beaverhead County actually make money off of the

entitlement formula because I think it has something to do with the roads and population,

that kind of thing. I can dig that out and find it for you, but I actually think it would be a

good thing for the entitlement formula to be blown to smithereens and adjusted properly and

then some kind of formula that that does justice for the one outlier in the state.

Now if you ask, we're the only county that does not get federal pilt, the only one, you know,

we have some federal lands, but 200 acres. Yeah, but they won't, they won't kind of

check for less than 200 bucks, so that's why we got 634 dollars. Yeah, we did get one in that,

it was kind of a gift, I think, you know, they were trying to appease us.

But you can see on this map? I think if they start talking about a little bit of the entitlement

formula, I would just go, well, how come, why not? And what's the alternative? And, you know,

people don't know about the state lands problem in a legislature when they find out they're like,

how come we don't do anything about this? So that would be the other thing, just simply raising

awareness and, you know, and like you already know, make sure that Eastern Montana gets

attention because we don't. Right, exactly. It was in 2001 when the entitlement program came in and

they chopped off state land pilt to state land counties, anything over six percent.

And our school used to kind of get a little bit of a bump so that they didn't have to build

the taxpayers more. It was a hundred thousand dollars for a few years and they dropped it to

75 and then they just booed it. So now our school doesn't even get that, so they have to build

the extra mills to the taxpayers. What was that called again? They don't have to look it up.

Yeah. What kind of entitlement, something, something. Anyways, that's some of the

common things they like to chirp about, that entitlement formula. May goes hugely against

entitlements because the bulk of their counties benefit from it.

And it was presented by the head of Makle at the time, Harold Blotty.

That's true. Harold Blotty was one of the former leaders of it and I guess

there, they just drank that Kool-Aid. And where is he from? He was from

Columbus. Yeah, the Stillwater Company and he was a commissioner for some time. I believe

he and his house representatives. I think it was while he was executive director of Makle

when they pushed this and the other person involved in it was Bob Story.

And I did speak with Bob Story and so Bob is the president of the taxpayers association,

something like that. Okay. He's very intelligent, although he just believes that Daniels County

screwed and don't even try to mess with that. You get that a lot. You get that a lot, so.

I don't know. Yeah, it gets disheartening, I have no doubt, I think.

Just buy it or rent. Well, then sell it to a great, exactly. If you're telling us

that that's a solution then. Or an option, even. The governor, if you say anything to him,

he'll just say, I don't want to talk about that. I don't want to hear it anymore.

Hmm. That's interesting. Just so you know what you're getting into. Be careful when you mention it.

I could show you a handwritten note from the governor to me. I was sending him stuff on

state land and on this little note he says, I'm ready to roll up my sleeves and go to work

for the Royal County of Montana. And I don't. He's still rolling his sleeves apparently.

Yes, apparently. Yeah. I'm really disappointed, but it is what it is.

Well, I guess if there's anything else or nothing else, he's got my number or everybody.

Logan's got my number, so. You haven't got your card sent out yet, have you?

Well, we're waiting for our official email addresses and stuff. And normally you don't

get them till November, but since we're in, they're trying to, and actually they're getting new

software. So we're waiting for all that to get in so we can get those. And then that would be

nice to have been able to get those out, but not yet. So. Well, we'll know when you get it.

Yes, that's right. That's right. Well, I will let you guys carry on if there's nothing else.

Thank you for coming. That's what you think of. You too. Good luck with everything and

We'll keep booking the barracks. Yeah, absolutely. And you enjoy your time out of

here. A lot of extra time. It'll give you, I would imagine. Oh, I'm pretty sure I can find something.

Yeah, you'll be coming in here sitting around all the time. Maybe they'll let you be the ex officio

to the local government review. Oh, I bet they will. I don't know. Yours passed too, to do the

review. Yeah, both, uh, Foxville, the city and the county are all here. All, everybody that

met us in the lake over there, and that was a tie and then recontent, it was still a tie. So I guess

as long as it was a tie, they don't have to do it. Mm hmm. Well, so. Travel safely. Yes, thank you.

Take care, everyone. Thank you for your time. Say hello to the governor.

Should we jump into this 130

genders? I noticed the proceed and construction contract, the century companies on the Colquitt

bridge. Here you go.

It's not as drastic as it looks. It looks pretty daunting. I'm gonna say it can't be.

Now, are they going to start on that shortly now?

Wasn't that in the middle of August? Today's the start date on our contract.

Yeah. So is Scanlon doing some dirt work for them too? No, I don't think so.

They're doing it all.

Yeah. Well, I know they're putting bridges in south of the boat, I'm right now.

Was that where they, because they moved down the clock over the tampers? Yeah, they've got,

well, there's three bridges that are going in, but there's two that they have yet to do.

And they're, wow, I should say that one, they're about two thirds of the way up.

Why are they going on the cut across?

Blast the cut across. I know they've got

three bridges that they've replaced this spring, since this spring on that road going north.

There's two past St. Marie, and there's one between St. Marie and

Glasgow, right by the old Dryden Theater. Yep. Yep. And that one further up can't come up with

his name. He was sheriff in Valley County, one time starts with a B, I think.

And it's that old unpainted house just off the road, maybe a mile or so. You come down the big

hill where the hill slid away and they repaired that. And then you come down and they have a

section house over there. Yeah. The square. Yeah. Gosh darn it. I can't think of the name. Anyway,

there's, I know there's one going in there. We were down there a couple weeks going through that.

And that's the one that they're just meeting going on. Yeah. Yeah.

Three copies. Oh, yeah.

Yep. And then there's going to be someone actually tomorrow they'll come and pick

them up so we don't have to. So there is

on page the notice to proceed. And then there's another one.

Places. Okay. Well, I'm assuming we would all be in agreement. Notice of award. That's already

been done. Notice to proceed. And then there's a few pages into it on the actual contract.

Is that the total price? Oh, you know, I didn't even look at that.

Is that the total price on that one? 1.8 something. I didn't see.

What kind of meeting did we attend? We called it. We appraised all over.

The one on zoomed in with the. Yeah. When we were short. They just went in and

reappropriated us some of them.

They like amended what they want us to do.

Is that what I read online? Yeah. Yep. The minutes of that meeting from John Bach.

They ought to do a thing.

Yeah. And this is, he sent up the pre-construction meeting John Bach sent

up all the agenda and things for that. So do you want me to fill in the day two here?

Think it's sending out that one zoom meeting that they hope to install the bridge by October 10th.

Yep.

I had to dig through your stuff over there to prove those guys. We needed to come up with $57,000 down.

Good job. They read it. I kept telling them, you know, Christie says we need to come up with some money and

look for this as well.

Way to go. Now they realize what we're telling them.

Yeah. And Roger did have an elevator.

Yeah. I still think you'd like that.

God, I think you'd like it. I don't think I'm qualified. Oh, do you ship?

Yes. And I did get ahold of the auditors on where to budget that. So they had me create another

cash reserve account with that money in. So we have to budget that.

He's like, well, just do a journal voucher and copy it over from cash into that. And I wrote back and said,

we don't have the cash to do the journal voucher. I'm just going to have to budget it and hope that it's there.

They're like, okay.

You need to attest.

Oh, I do? Yeah, somebody does.

Where?

Yeah, that's me.

Can I have a look at the order? Yes.

Go folks.

I'm going to have to make more room for my bridge file.

Yeah, I've been thinking all the emails I've been getting should go in a folder. So it's easier to know what's going on.

So I can throw all my emails stuff away now then?

I don't know if I have the same emails you have or not.

That would be a good question.

I think for a while there, they weren't sending them to me.

And John Bach's been sending them to you, hasn't he? Yeah, that's what I've been eating. Yeah, that's what I need. Can I guys throw that stuff away?

It's in the cloud, so it's always there.

Not my cloud. They keep telling me if I don't send them my password, I'm out of the cloud.

Your cloud was?

Oh goodness.

Oh

There's

Acknowledgements of principle if a partnership. Okay, if that doesn't work. No, he just said the notice to proceed and the contract.

Oh, I see I've already signed once, but yeah, here's the figure.

Well, it was 1.556, but then they increased it.

That was one of my sleepless nights.

Yeah, you

Yeah, you'll probably retire and just thinking that nightly.

How do you say $300,000? They've done pretty good since the election go over.

Huh? I had a few of us learning the new program. Really? That election program gave me nightmares.

Yeah

Well, if we're signing this at

1.5, we're going to have to sign some more for that extra.

It's already done, man. Yeah

I think we did that for a meeting I was at last meeting.

Yeah, but shouldn't it be, in total, it shouldn't be here?

Yeah. It's in the danderms.

In our dand, probably.

It's looking pretty good at that pitch, huh?

It's like a little air mail going on.

Yeah.

It's amazing how much junk you got to go through to the bridge in.

There's so much. It's crazy.

I mean, when they put the old one in, they didn't have to pay for it.

How many put it in? It was in 40s? 40 or 47?

I bet you they did it for less than two million.

Oh, what?

This is the cost for these guys. The 200,000 has already been

through the bridge. Right. The two together equal your 1.8.

Yeah.

Yeah.

What page is that on?

Well, it doesn't say that part on. This is just our contract.

This is what we're going to pay a century.

Oh, I see. Okay.

It's the 1.5, and we've already paid the 200 and some are going to pay the 200.

Oh, okay.

Yeah.

For the structure of the bridge itself.

So that extra is in here.

Yeah.

Why'd you find that?

Well, I didn't. I just read it, and I'm like, oh, you guys are forgetting the

200 and some thousand that we're going to be paying.

I thought they were talking about the gravel base in that,

but, you know, I think it's concrete.

Oh, it is? I think so.

Oh, I thought we went for that gravel.

It wasn't a gravel?

I thought it was, but...

For the bottom of the bridge structure?

Yeah.

Maybe it still is, and maybe I'm just dreaming hallucinating.

Well, here on 108, over on the next page,

concrete bridge deck.

Yeah.

$179,000.

You know, so it is.

I think in the long run, it's better.

Oh, well, yeah, it's always better in gravel.

Yeah.

That way, they don't have to run their blades across it

to maintain the gravel on the bridge.

They were supposed to feed them two rails

so they could set the...

Energy.

Yep.

Can we get in our bridge from?

Centuries.

Oh, no.

Hmm.

Or we look it up.

When did we get the bridge?

That was...

Two months ago.

Yeah, what was it going to say, June?

Or it might even have been longer than that.

I know, it's been a while.

Okay.

Evidently, they're not going to put a guardrail on?

No.

And we need guardrails on our damn highway

to water.

Like, to slew

down here at

Fingers.

Oh, wait a minute.

There's no guardrail on it now.

Well, it says there's a guardrail bridge approach section.

Right, yep.

So it's got to have a little bit of a wall there on the sides

to keep people from bouncing and going in there.

Because there are going to be some pretty steep ditches there, I think.

And you could...

How wide is that bridge?

Which is it?

24?

As I said, it's 24, 28.

24, I think that's what they...

So you can pick your headers up

and

get across with a header on?

With these new commas, I can lift them up over a guardrail.

Seversons.

Barely enough.

Yeah, and...

Here it picked up

so you could get over a post

and after you got through, realize that

you could have went through without

picking up it.

There's going to be some

taking off and putting on.

A good operator

to get up there and use the diesel

right on through that will do a lot

when I help those guys up.

Richland?

Maybe Clemson's ones.

Yeah.

With a swatter, you could

get in there at an angle

and bring that corner around

and get the other side through.

Dad said, how in the world did you do that?

He said, well, watch this.

Yeah, we just back in with

combines on the side and just...

Turn it.

Angle around the post.

Is that the bridge file?

Holy buckets.

To start copies, too.

Is that that $260,000

written...

price?

It says crushed aggregate base

for the surfacing

of this bridge.

I don't know what that's all about.

I have no idea.

So I don't know.

We have little stars by...

It says concrete

glass deck bridge deck.

And this one says aggregate base.

Crushed aggregate base surfacing.

Yeah, the base.

Jesus, how thick is it

going to be?

If we're going to put a base on it

plus the concrete...

It's there.

Imagine you got the embankment

here.

Don't lose it.

Don't throw it in the garbage.

So if you get mad, don't throw it in the garbage.

You sure you want to turn it in yet?

Yep, I'm done.

I don't know if we keep one

and they keep two.

Yeah, so it's my understanding

the contractor wishes to begin

the week of August.

They'll begin with the demolition

of the existing bridge.

So

aggregate base course.

Yeah, I don't know.

Well,

I don't think it's

our expense.

It's the most important thing.

Yeah.

Can we,

in the interest of time,

are we done with this?

Yeah, this is part of your...

Ha!

Ha!

Ha!

What are you doing?

Giving him solid waste stuff?

No.

Oh.

It's like, here, here, here.

Good decision.

Ha!

You keep that now

when you attend meetings.

Well, I know it's all in anyway.

Of course, trading fees.

Well, any in charge of the...

The park board?

Park board? Oh, yeah.

Well, you must know how much trading fees are.

You better get yourself a horse.

Yeah.

I've already been down that road.

Yeah, and it's going to be interesting.

Yeah.

God, I'm helpful today.

Look, I suppose I got to make

a copy of this to put in the address.

Here.

Oh, no, I need to dispatch.

Jesus.

Now, that's going to drive me

to drink to that whole project.

Yeah, I saw this.

I think I got it in my file.

I sure would like to see those gates

wide open so you can enter the gates there.

I think that would solve a lot of problems.

I really do.

Dakota said when he cleaned it

two years ago or whenever the last time

he cleaned it, he just took them apart.

Took them apart.

And I said, why not?

It's going to be across.

Why not make those gates

wide enough so that the whole door

swings?

It's easy to clean up.

Nobody has to be

shoveling the kitchen.

You know, so...

I don't know, could you put a powder

in the panel on the outside?

Do you have John Locke's phone number?

He's kind of found it.

Michael P.

Do you have John Locke's phone number?

Yes, I do.

Do you have John Locke's?

Could you just call him and ask him

for his phone number?

Sure.

I can't say in the letter, but I'm guessing

it goes back to get to him, too.

Sure.

Let's see.

Each ID.

K.O., I'm at home.

Yeah.

Boy, got a lot of gyms in here.

A lot of John's, too.

Oh, did we do an auction?

No, we have not.

Pretty busy. He didn't ask for a look yet.

Hi, John.

Michael P.

Good.

We just signed the documents

for the

go-ahead.

You get all three copies?

Just two of them.

One will be you guys for your records.

That's what we wanted to know for sure.

Okay.

John, really quick.

Tomorrow, when it's way through,

we'll send the documents from you.

Christie's asking who will pick up?

Will Canaro.

Oh, Will Canaro.

Okay, gotcha.

Perfect.

Any other questions?

Where's the bridge coming from?

What's the company that's making the bridge again?

Contact.

Contact.

Okay.

Okay.

Well, I think we're good.

We're excited. Are they up here working today?

Yep.

They were supposed to start this morning.

I didn't send Will up just because the first day,

there's not much up there, so

I figured there's not much to watch,

but he's going to go up and check on him tomorrow.

Sounds good.

All right.

Thank you very much.

You bet, Jeff.

Okay.

Okay.

So do we, I guess we need

a notice

or a, excuse me,

a motion

to sign

the notice to proceed?

I'm going to move.

I'll sign it.

I'll go soon.

Don't forget it.

I'll go soon.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

Gary made the motion.

I seconded it.

And I was dragging my feet.

All those in favor?

I.

The unanimous.

10 to 2.

We have our two o'clock agenda item.

Discussion on fair board meeting

and sale of the peerless ballpark.

Mike, you want to,

what do you think?

You want to give the report?

I got a bunch of data here

that I collected.

From the fair board?

Yeah. Fair board meeting.

Yeah, we had a,

I would say it was a good meeting.

It was kind of long.

Jim Buer gave a

synopsis of

hunting.

Mainly bird hunting

in the county.

How much money it

brings or potentially brings

along with

the need for camping

and his thoughts on that.

But it was also brought up

that the fairgrounds

is not a campsite.

It's an overflow campsite

and that we shouldn't be taking

their thoughts as they don't want to take money away from

the lions

or whitetails

or flax field communities

that use that money in their areas

and golf course

and in turn give it back

to the community.

So

I think they were going to probably

go ahead with an increase

for camping fees

at the fairgrounds

just based on

the first and lowest price

place to go camping.

They don't want all the traffic,

they don't want all of the

I shouldn't say all of it,

but there is some trash issues

things like that.

And

they don't want to increase

their

power sources

to accommodate more

to make up for

some of the costs that they're incurring.

So

they basically held their own

and

Jim had some pretty valid points

really

but

it's not a camping site

place.

It's an overflow place that people

can use

because they have to hire somebody

to come in and clean bathrooms now

and they have that added expense

and

they just

they just don't want to get in the middle of having

to have somebody down there managing

the camping.

We also got a phone call from

them asking about the resort

tax but I think what they meant is the

bed tax.

Because that is a thing actually.

It is a thing.

And they weren't aware of it.

We made them aware of that.

So

I don't know how

we're going to deal with that.

Well constructively they can do it

as a

just it's like a fee

but it's not a set fee.

It's just a on your owner type

fee. That's what the lion's doing

to get away with it so that they don't have to pay

the bed tax.

As soon as you set a fee

well they have.

And so now they

are responsible for the bed tax.

Right.

Which is significant.

Just looked it up.

40%.

It's a lot.

It's a lot.

I don't think it was 40.

Terry Farber thought it was.

And Mike thought

he confirmed it.

It's a lot higher than you

generally want to admit.

And

four for status.

Four?

Well

anyway.

And then here's the other portion

of Jim's report.

And

since 2019

since he started the program

they were at

14 users at $720

2020

they had 18 users at 18

20

36 they had

19 they started at 10

then they pushed it to 20

at 21 they had 36

at $3,600

22 they had 31

at $3,100

23 they had 75

at $7,500

that's

camp nights it's not

individuals it could have been

the same individual that was

doing it and so he liked

percentages and

the increase was

in camper fee revenue was

944%

and then

he thought well we've got

all these hookups

and he took pictures of all the

electrical hookups down there

and he said if we used

all of them we could have

24

which would give us

144 users

per year

for $14,400

at the $20

fee and then his concern

was people weren't going to camp there

if they pushed it to 40

Terry did tell me

last night at the fair they did vote

for the 40

it was 1% people

on it

what they're missing out on

is they're just like the museum

as soon as you

turn any light on

June 1st you're on demand

so every kilowatt

you're paying much

much more on for every

kilowatt of power

and Cheryl Raff

or Booth

she was the first one to point out

when they hook in back there by the

shoots because they bull breakers

all the time and then they're calling somebody

about for those times

and so

anyway

and we both

said this is your

situation we're not

here to

encourage or discourage or anything

we're just here we want to hear

the situation

and

you guys to take care of this

it's your duty

responsibility

and so then

because

this was their agenda

the minutes of

their last meeting and they were just

going I had no idea

I said so are we done well

yeah you know

not really

I said

Terry

and Terry

Terry asked Terry Farber

Corey I said Mike

and I would like to go down and look at the

parks board

facility

and

would like to have you guys come along and

they had other things they had to do and he said

fine we'll go look at it

so we went and looked at it

and it's

about the same as it was two weeks

I think

two stalls were cleaned

the one that was cleaned and had fresh

and the pony in it was

Terry's

last Tuesday

night

I called you I asked if you wanted to go

it was the week before

I called you and you said no you had to

get ready for the wedding and then

I got

informed later that the meeting

was off of week

and I let you know that

I wanted to

so Mike and I

enjoyed it

so Mike and I went down and looked

and there's great possibilities

there but somebody's got to

manage it

and it needs some repairs

so that's the lights

there were a bunch of lights out that

hadn't been replaced apparently

and

it was hard to find the light switches

I thought they had put them all in

but there were sockets with no bulbs in

didn't they order them all though

they ordered enough

Lee ordered enough

Ed Hinton or somebody ordered enough to

completely do it

they're not in

and you look at the north

door on it

we didn't look at it close but it's obvious

from the outside and the inside

it's barely hanging there

south one buried the pictures

which one did he have pictures of

the doors falling off

that was

the door that they

when they built the stall sheds

they removed the two doors

and one was maybe

still on the rail

the other one

wasn't

and it was kind of leaning like this

and when we went down there

it was leaning against the stall barns

and

I just thought

let's do something with the doors

get them out of there so they don't

I doubt if they would fall down on somebody

but it's just a nice

so that's where I

my personal

thought here was

if you look at the

revenue that they're bringing in

and that people are not participating

and maybe it's because they think

Michael P. is

not a nice person and making

their lives miserable

I don't kind of get that

sense and

so I thought

okay this is a county building

and we are

somebody should be

responsible for it

so as a county

I wondered about the north door

maybe we should be thinking about

a roll-up door

so you could always

have easy

access

to it

and I thought

yeah

and I thought well then where could we get the funds

for it and that's where I come back

to the sale of the peerless ballpark

and I'm thinking if

we had a minimum

try to advertise

sell that

at a minimum we know what it's valued at

we know what it costs

us for the appraisal

if we could get some money out of that

I would be willing

to help these people

put this

back in some kind of shape

but as

Commissioner Theven said

it starts with the stalls

then stalls

have got to be cleaned out before

we

commit anything huge to it

and so

interestingly enough

the next day

I got a call from Dakota

and

he says we want to be real clear

we want to

get this thing cleaned up

and stuff but it's the fair

and it's harvest and I says

okay I get it

and he says when I get my

skid steer back and run

again he says we'll go in there

that's when he told me they just

took those stalls apart

and that's how they cleaned them out

and he says

something he's talked to

Bucklins I believe

about spreading them in there

you know get rid of it

right away let's not be stockpiled

under anything

and I told Dakota he says

we want to work with you but

you're going to have to get more involved

and you're going to have to start

showing a little pride

in taking care of this thing

and I said if there was a way

that we could get some funds

to help with it

to some degree

because if we did that

ballpark thing that soon the place

we could use the money is in a part

situation

we basically decided

not selling the ballpark until

they can make some changes down there

is that what was decided

just do it anyway

exactly

my point we have a plan

whether we institute

along with the people that we want

to help us

and do the upgrades down there or not

we might not

we might not let it go for what in

you know we have the right to refuse

or accept any bid right

okay but

what I was getting at is

the money we get

so if we decide to sell the ballpark

the money has to go into the park but

whether we want it to or not

it has to so therefore

there it sits and they have access

to see that

can't you put it into

like a repair fund

but see that's the whole thing

they have their

it has to go to

so their $22.10 is their park fund

so any money that we get from that sale

has to go into that

then they can see

it's their money

we print out the revenue for it they see

and who's in charge spending that money

but we still have to approve the claims

right

but they need to understand

that that money is there but they can't use it

I mean that's I don't know how you

can't you put it in a capital reserve

for

a capital reserve

parks board fund

I would think you could and then

then it's your mark only for that

and if so

if they run out of money

like they have in the past

they can take it out

no no

not at your market

that's a capital reserve

yes you can

we just have it in the past

you can do it and so then it can't be

transferred in for

whatever

the downside is that

if you want to use it for something else you can

you know what I'm saying

but it has to have commissioner approval

or

okay they don't have 30 let's say

there's $30,000

we have that same thing

with our 9-1-1 money

guess where it went we're broke

we started spending it

that's just what's going to happen to this

well we could authorize to spend it

but we'd have to do that as a

but where are you not

spending it if they need

something down there where are we

to sit there and say no you can't have it

it's yours but you can't have it

because we earmarked it for a door

and another door whatever you

want to call it

that's what it's for

unless we authorize it to be

changed to

have them use it for something else

they've got to be

they've got to be

that's a capital improvement so that's part of

what you can spend it on

yeah

we can earmark it and try to hold it

for what our intentions

are for

and I'm also saying

we know what

that ballpark

was appraised at and what it cost us

for the appraisal

that in my mind would be a

minimum

and if we don't get that minimum I guess

we don't sell it

okay

three o'clock

Michael K. Murphy here

he's not here

but he has a letter

this is a little

convoluted

current legal status of the road

I thought we told him that

for half the way up

a quarter mile it was

what meeting does he refer to

January 6th

January 6th meeting

January 3rd

2024

by conference call

11 a.m

wanted

I'll just read it so we can all be

my intent and purpose

of that call wanted to

openly communicate

to you my questions

in regards to the raised

half-mile gravel road

that is located on

my deeded property

seven miles southwest

of Fort Butte's

is the property line

on the east side

of the road is that what he was maintaining

and that road

is on his property

do you recall that?

yep

since probably

2009 the road has not been maintained

by county road departments

since 2017

the road is no longer

on the MDT

GEO information map

custom Daniels County

MDOT in Helena

and district MDOT in Glendis

do not have it as an active

county road in that the state

is no longer providing

any gas tax funding

for maintenance

Kenny

when he broke his hit in

2000, up until 2019

was keeping the road up

kept it mowed for fire hazard

and sprayed for weed control

for our use to access

and maintain our land craze

both for purposes they have

land

north of Jim's shitsteads

right?

and to get to it

this was the easiest way

but they would have to go through Jim's yard

you don't have to go through Jim's yard

you have to go by the east

side of the

west side of the house

and the trees

you should know this

you live there

we have used the road

since it was built on our land

in 1934

for our needs

in addition since early 2001

the north end of the road

has been currently

closed and posted by the shitsteads family

denying any public

use to exit or enter

the north end of the road

I also shared with you

based on Meme on engineering records

from

Erbilian Associates filed in the court

on April 20, 2011

for utility easements

the road is located

only on my deed of land

I communicated

that my intentions had three objectives

one, I want to conduct research

on the origin and history

with this road

and under Montana statutes

and with guidance from the board of common commissioners

establish a

current legal status for this road

road position

271

Township

35 north

range 46 east

B

request a written definition

of

parenthesis public highway parenthesis

based on February 3, 1934

concenters

deed for right of way

question mark

request that the road

be named Harriet Springs

January 4

did receive a call from

commissioner London

it's spoken to the county attorney

based on the initial review

it is county road 271

we also spoke about

renaming the road

and I provided the history and background

why requested it

to be named Harriet Springs

today I am following up

on the status of two items

from that call

first to obtain written definition of public highway

and the status

of naming the road Harriet Springs

and in addition

I am also now requesting

that the existing chick coin road

three miles south of

four beets that are in six miles

west from south four

beets road to Gilkes road

being renamed to Murphy road

at one time there were

three chick coin

road signs on this road

but one has been missing

for several years

and three 911 addresses

of which one is

a renter

one that has been vacant for years

in my address

at 300 chick coin road

the chick coin family

was related to us for marriage

but all our family

and descendants

all their family and descendants

are no longer living

and do not own any property

on this road

our family is the only original

homestead family now left on this road

we do not plan on going anywhere

and that is the reason for

my request

should we sell it

for

a couple million dollars

so one part of the chick coin road

does not read us

all of it okay

too many dollars to have those names

oh yeah too many places

water

yeah

yeah you betcha

you too again

no I'm good thank you

left handed

I crushed

yeah

when they were doing way back when

when they started mapping out all the roads

it seems was the time to request name changes

and stuff to others

Neil Shibat got his changed

later years

I don't know if it was too far later though

I don't know if it was very far later

he just couldn't be

living on that road

well it sounds to me like

the basis of his whole thing is to get

access so he can go up another

road back and forth

well he can anyway

no they've got to shut off

ship says have it shut off

that's what it sounds to me like

oh thank you

the rest of this is just love

I think the

and at that point I would say that's between him and

ship says

well descendants

descendants of

people who were trying to sell it

they were trying to sell it

and what son

there was

they said it was

private road and they needed

access

I don't know

pardon me

in 271

it is for a while

the half a mile

or quarter mile

and the rest is abandoned

that's how we used to go

to perilous old times

show me where it's going

this is the ship going forward

where is the one

I think I have some

right here

well it's either this one

or the intersection

I think so

these roads

even when I was young were never maintained

never

they went

they go up on this road

maybe once in a while until the boat ships

that turn

this is the procedure to

name the road

plus then you have to send it into

Google

or the post office

I mean there's a lot of places that we use

descendants to

9-1-1 to Zercher

or whoever does the share slot this now

I don't honestly know

what the cost is

to change in your own

but this is a whole new road

so

it doesn't even exist anywhere

the Harriott Springs one you're talking about

well it exists

no I mean but there's no name anywhere in the world

for it

there's not another road name for it

out there

road petition 271

that's part of that road right

yes

because

but it's not been a named road

no

so you could just describe

where it is

it seemed to me if I recall right

the issue was that

there was easements

coming from both sides

Morris Murphy on this side

Kenny Murphy on this side

like these easements overlap

a quarter of a mile

on this

is it a half mile or is it

a half mile

the easements are probably

a quarter mile each way

so they overlap

on the same quarter mile

I think

3546

what's the road number

271

Valley County

I would

the Betzo

if it was

34 did 1934

yeah

okay

3649

I'm looking for

3546

3548

47

3546

Jesus

Jesus

because there's a

trail right through here

cuts us right out

I've seen it on this one

you can see that

because you end up coming

right on the outside from our

place

shit I'm

20

hmm

there's no talent trip

3546

he doesn't

3546 he doesn't

now

if I recall right

you go backwards

look it

there it is

I can't read the glasses

1234

I was

just looking here

right here

now ain't that

shit stand right there

that's their house

right there

that's their place

it's Daniel's

the main road

township 35 north range

46 with a question mark

got it

but it says it's Daniel's

this trail

that's what I was looking right here

that's the trail because you can go right

by their house from here and you can go

always straight north

so the south

quarter corner of section 23

then north for a distance of one half mile

to the quarter corner

quarter section 23

is that right

okay

so what are we looking for

easements

how about deeds for right away

deeds for right away

okay

and he actually called

Effie, Murphy and Harriet Wolter

Harriet Wolters

Harriet Springs

Wolter

consenters deed for right away

so there's

a Henry Hartman

the Harriet Wolter

and Effie, Murphy

Effie, Murphy is

the

mother

is Kenny's and Morris's

mother

right

Murphy

what which one

Effie

Effie, Murphy I believe that is

so this is for a distance

of a fourth of a mile

the south corner of section

2335

this is a half mile

it's following the quarter line north for a distance

of one half mile to the center

of section 2335

this is east out

that's for 30 feet

in lift line

west of

an adjacent

to the quarter line

and extending from the center

of 23

south for a distance of one quarter mile

it is

required for the road

purpose so there's another one for the

quarter of a mile

this is for a half mile

yeah

and in that road it goes right up

and you come right out on the other side

and it follows a fence line

in width

line immediately

you see the map

here he has this whole side

and then the other two are from these two

so your easement

this is Henry for his half mile

to the east

and then these two are their quarter miles

to the west

but you just read there

Dan Murphy and Harriet

Gilchrist

Gilchrist

Gilchrist is right on the corner

yeah Harriet Gilchrist

is the

I thought that was

he said they were related

no he said the chicken

right

and then

this one you say goes the rest of the way

runs a whole half mile

oh yeah

I don't know what names on that one

Harriet

Henry Hearthman

strip of land 30 feet

with

line immediately

east of and adjacent to

the quarter

section line

and extended from the south

corner

of section 23

north for distance

of one half mile to the center

of section 23

said

township and range

which is

so that's this side

so that's that side

and these two people

are this side

so I don't know unless he owns all this property

he does own

the road goes right down in the middle

of the two properties

so who owns the land

on either side of that road now

um

MDF doesn't it

let's see

of Murphy's

in 23

35

looks like maybe

Mucklevane's

shouldn't it be

Shipstead and Murphy's at this point

nope

isn't that what he's arguing about

Shirley Mucklevane

that's this chunk right here

in 35

46

Lid the Belongy

you own this

this is the Morris Murphy place

nope

no the Morris Murphy place is the other Belongy

right here

Alfred and Linda own all this see

sorry did

so who owns it

and here's the road

in question

yeah

Shipstead's own it

on the east

on the

yeah

I'm on the Cadastro right now

so hopefully I can

Shipstead's own all of it

right there on both sides

they own half of this

next block see

where that road is right here

that trail that they're talking about

going north and south

did Murphy say he owned

the other side

well he thinks he owns the road

I mean the county owns the road

so I don't know if it's the state of Montana

but he might have the

you can see right there

that Shipstead's

and they go past where that road is

and we're talking about right here

that's the road goes into Shipstead's

right here

they own these

they got cars parked in these

so I know this is Shipstead's

supposed to be

okay so this one says

Belingers

3546 section 23

yeah the southeast

east and southeast

Belingers

oh so Michael Murphy owns the

west side of that road

is gone

Morris Murphy house I think is

11 and gone

this is Murphy

we'll need to

what can we just say

we're not changing roads

names

well the chicken yeah

I don't I vote not to change

that road

wait after when you want strength

well that was the second thought

he originally wanted that road

we're looking at to have a name

because there's no name

that one goes past Shipstead's house

that little half mile that we were just looking at

has no name maybe just tell them

since there's little or no

no name call it no name really

little or no activity on the road

there's no need to change

it

so how do we respond

so what do you guys

oh

I'm totally confused here

is your meeting done

well I think we just leave it alone

thank you

well that's company energy that's going to sit out there

for the simple fact

there's very little traffic

are you waiting for someone

and really no need to change

he can call

whatever you wish

we're pretty busy here today

and how are you today

right

so the legal status

of this road

would be considered

a county road for the first

half mile

the second half

mile

no name

when I was a kid

there was never anybody that road graded

passed basically

Gilcrest corner once in a while I suppose

maybe for snow removal

they go to Shipstead's and maybe to Murphy's

but not for

oh not the blame

Murphy had definitely had to have a snow plow

out there

Andrew's school bus

school bus

do you

we don't sell by the school bus

not ours

what do you got

stickers

oh it's just

they do have stickers

they're all for you

oh my god

that's sticky

unless you want to wait

for loads in the name

yeah

I'm just jotting some notes here

who's your agenda item really quick

before we do the show

sign this

thing for action

sure

agenda item

at

3.30 action for eastern

montana verification of

receipt

for 4.25 action

roman work plan

sign it

sign it and what

sign it and say we received their

action plan

I was talking to Lee

he was right behind me

you sure

motion

motion to

approve the

all second

motion made in second

to approve the action for eastern

montana verification form all those in favor

aye

no opposition

motion is carried

thank you

what was it

did you guys not see

I don't know

sheriff

hi sheriff

let me sit down

gosh we got to get you a white chair

don't we

she didn't order it for me yet

it was pretty special

we couldn't get it

in that color

okay

what's going on here

so I

sent you guys an email I wasn't sure if you

got a chance to look at it but

Motorola

their project team

is coming up to walk through

our

office

on the 28th

of August

to

start planning

for the consoles

so they would like

to do a

they want to do a walk through

a site walk through

they want to do

they also want to do a

power point

with us

to get a conference room to do that

in

so I wanted to see if at 9am

that morning we could do that up here

and then

go down there and do the

site walk through

so and they would

they wanted to

you don't want to use the ambulance meeting room

alright we could do that too

that would probably be better

it's less crowded and you'd have to ask

we to make sure you have it open

that room for stuff

I asked them to open the door

no I said just make sure nothing else

is being used

will they come to you for that key

I know Mary

and I used to have trouble getting in

there one night

and go someplace to get a key

I do not have a key

to the door there

we don't have a key to the ambulance bar

I thought you'd have a key to the ambulance

or the next door

but I don't have the key to that door

is this what you got me all

shook up on my

computer

it was this

and you handed me a hand up

so I clarified that

how did I get you shook up

you shouldn't do that on my computer

so the screen they need

from the power point is that just a tv

screen or

yeah it's just a tv screen

I mean I could

do it in my dispatch

we have it all set up for it

but if we had a 911 call

come in or something like that

then I would interrupt everything

so I just didn't want to do that

so I figured

down there is fine too

it doesn't matter to me

but they invited

all of you commissioners

to come and do

so that everybody knows

what's going on

those are going to work and everything

and that was

what day, what time?

Wednesday the night

yeah the 28th at 9am

they will be here

I will be here unless I'm needed in the field

say what?

so you dazed and confused

well I hope

Chase is available

that's all I got is this little part here

did I give you the wrong one?

I did, that's okay

we'll move on to that one next

sorry

I don't want that, I'll read yours

here's the other one

I'll read this one

this is just

so I need somebody

one of you

which I actually

is the Montana

the state

I need one of you guys to write a letter

somebody to write a letter

to the state

for the firewall

the firewall we have

I need access

to get into the firewall

they need to let us know

so here's the

I don't know what commissioners want

I don't know

here is the information

for you

this is

I spoke

I call these people

so 445232

she's Kelly

is there from 7 to 3

she said that's her direct line

and that she can

give you

okay so the whole stupid thing to all of this

does she obviously know

she needs to call

and she's not calling

us

and she said you need to call her

and Justin has told her

and yeah I kind of love this person

so she said that

you need to call her

to get this thing going

the case number

is

the email that I sent over

to you

on it

because

they are not like it says

in here

things that it's got to be

in order for me to get

state because what

is happening right now

is that when we run

a driver's license

or any

a driver's license or a plate

so did you find out

if I'm the Christy

or if Christy ship says the Christy

I can't find out anything

so I cannot find

anything at all

because I am not within the security group

it's the commissioners

and one of the Christy's in this town

I don't know

so just give them both the sign

and we'll be good right

okay so give me the number

every Christy and all

so

it's 5232

523270

yeah

so and as soon

what needs to

happen is they need the IP

source and destination

I have all that information

also I will email it over

to you so that we

because we are not

when we're sending stuff out

we don't know

if it's getting to them

or coming back

they need to research

what's happening here because

with our CAD system

is not working properly

at all and I have been trying

to get it working

forever now and

that way

when they're on a traffic stop

it keeps them there for

20 minutes

which in turn is really irritating

anybody that's getting pulled over

why are you keeping me here

well because I can't

I'm having all this trouble getting the information

and I know the citizens out there

just

maybe they shouldn't do something to get pulled over

and they wouldn't sit there for 20 minutes

maybe they shouldn't just get pulled over

they're here

they should do like Jim Bailey

I will mail you the ticket tomorrow

go ahead and go

the sooner I can get

this

fix

it will be

it will be

much better

anyways

so

but

other than that

we are

yeah

and I told her today

when I spoke to her

that it wouldn't even be

tomorrow or the next day

because you guys are having meetings

for the next couple of days

what happens if I'm not the Christy

what do we do

it's got to be one of these guys

and how do we know which one was on there

well

probably

I like to

freeze

the thing of it is

I think what would have to happen

is somebody's going to have to write

on their head

a new list of people

that can

have access

to the security group

and that would be up to you guys

that's the weird thing

I didn't even know

you guys had this SITSD down there

so you told me

and I'm like oh I didn't know that

so I'm not sure I'm on that list

maybe you should be

yeah

so

I'll call up the Christy

your name

well she said she's been emailing Christy

well I haven't been getting any emails

so I'm not so sure

she told me Christy

she said commissioners and Christy

she never confirmed the last name

with me

but then she told me she said it's an email

and I never got an email

so we're wondering if it went to another Christy

I don't know

I do not know

but

are you trying to access what again now

so

basically what's happening is our CAD system

isn't able to receive

we don't know if it's

we think it's sending okay

but it's not receiving okay for sure

the information

that we need when

for instance when we're in a traffic stop

be to the CAD system

we have

omnics

which we can definitely do a traffic stop

and we can do it okay

but what delays the traffic

stop is we have to do everything in omnics

and then we're transferring it over to our CAD system

so it just takes

just extra steps

which if we can cut that down

we're taking out the middleman

and then we can just do a traffic stop

and they can be in and out of a traffic stop

within five minutes

and not be there

but he's more efficient

but he's super fast

he is so fast

like he rattles off everything so quick

and he's sitting there probably twiddling

us thumbs at us going like

hello so there's a

Christy and a commissioner

who was

somebody who

is in the security group

you know I bet you it's Lee

I wouldn't be surprised

this is kind of

yeah is it kind of ringing the bell

no

no I'm not that bad if you're here

no because like I said I had no idea

they had to stay dinner

I must be

well I would probably

this is probably a good thing that it's getting brought up right now

because then it can be fixed

and the letter can be written

from you guys and you can get it

situated all the way around for up here

and down there so

one of the major benefits

of it all is we pay for the programs

but we can't

access them because of a firewall

and you need to know

who the two people are

the county's paying for all these programs

and they're not talking to each other

and it's just a firewall

well when it comes to stuff like this too

if anything went on with

any of these computers

and then all and like say

something did really bad happened

and we needed to access

and we needed their help

and then we're like

at that moment

if we don't fix this problem right now

and then you're calling over there saying help

and nobody can do anything

because we're not on the list

that's a problem

so it's just a simple letter

to write over there

some authority they had it before

Kristi and some other commissioner

were signed on

to give the authority to do this

but now we don't

we lost record or lost

Kristi Shipson is why I'm thinking

because I would never access

I need to access your stuff

down there

so I don't know

and then they're pulling it off of ours

it's not about what's down there

it's about I think

an overall

it's an overall thing

because it's the state

so

so

but she may be able to clarify that a little more

if I can get Kristi Shipson to talk to

when it goes over 10

I will say last

I'll just say this is for this

I'm not sure

I don't have any information

so go that way

I'm as far as I can get

so

well your regardless just needs

to be taken

just needs to be addressed

like I said we've tried

but

that is

that's where I'm at

I'll call in the morning

see if you can get her

before they come

I'll just say this is Kristi

no last name

no name Kristi

and then if they ask me some code number

yeah it's kind of crazy

there's always that spot where

you have to get a hold of Lee

I'm not hearing this

I'll channel Lee

they have that option

when you call

did you forget your password

should be checked

I'm stuck in this chair

until the meeting is done

so I might as well not even get up

I gotta wait

for what reason date your stickers

those are for you

no I don't like stickers

I'm afraid of Velcro

I'm not that aware of it

I'm afraid of Velcro

stay safe and sound

and I'll see you around

cute

where you guys get these

read them back

it's that national child

safety awareness

that we've been doing

national child safety health

but we don't make big money for it

and believe me when they called

and they're like well have you ever seen this

and I'm like I don't even know who this is

I didn't even know who they were

when they walked in and used themselves

but that little itty-bitty puppy dog thing that's on there

I recognize that symbol

I got a tote full of this stuff

I donated

at least the last 3-4-5 years

for it

we're gonna go do

some for the kids tomorrow

and go utilize all that stuff

at the library

the little kindergarten roundup

you're gonna go to that

we're doing that tomorrow

trying to find a woody

or sheriff woody outfit

but

my grandson's call

yeah that would be

at least the hat

your grandson at least 5-10

not yet

wanna move on over

to mine

yep

4 o'clock sheriff woody's here

you can just

switch seats

he needs to be in front of the microphone

oh it was picking it up

I've seen it

I only made 4 copies

there's that

you can get the sign one

I'm gonna steal yours

for a second

we're gonna go over the activity

for incidents

so

as a fill in this out

there were 172 incidents

but

after running it before

or at the end of

well you guys just ran out today didn't you

181 incidents last month

to include

once I got him in there

like

the hit on him

28 traffic stops

25

plus fires

or burn permit

those are

looped into the fire and the burns

there was 119 of them

here in scoby

12 of them out in flexville

and 41 out in the county

so

that's where we're at with that

I guess

651 or so

calls into dispatch

plus isn't that what I was reading

I can't remember I think that's what I got from you guys

off of

the

what do you call

the motor all of the 911

911

I think that's what you told me

650 plus calls

is that

whenever you pick up the phone

that's everything

if you call one out later

that's 151

calls 12 or 391

yep

into dispatch and 911 650 calls

kind of time

a day average

a lot

20 plus calls

but when I filled this out

it was before the end of the month

and it went up to 181

so

each fire contains

numerous phone calls

okay

so one call could add up to

five or six

for the same

type incident

but as far as

this month goes Rex is going to

academy

he'll be leaving

on

the Saturday prior

Sunday prior

because he starts Sunday

so he'll be leaving the Saturday prior

so that'll be the 1730 leaves

how are your deputies working out

they're working out pretty good

they're working out so good

that people don't like us anymore

they complain because

they have to

they're getting stopped at stop signs

or driving down main street with their headlights off

they don't call me

they call the judge and complain to the judge

you know

like we were saying if they don't like it

then

I said watch at least three on the weekend

the day that run through those stop signs

right up by our house

that's a park ones right

the park ones

they'll come to catch you

I know I parked out in the middle of the street one time

yeah

there's quite a few

but

I mean

we've gotten the excuse of

you know I've never been pulled over

for doing 78 miles an hour

what's your lucky day

you know I'm sorry

I mean it's just

you gotta be kind of quick

don't you give warnings or nothing

you know my warning is

when my lights come on

you should have slowed down

yeah a lot of people have been getting warnings

well I mean I was just wondering

you're saying people are complaining

but you are trying to meet some of them

there is

yeah there's like

I gave a warning right after the fair

people were leaving

the fairgrounds with their headlights off

I don't think I made it

but ten feet without turning my headlights on

your headlights are on

and then I wait for them to turn them on

and then I let them go

and then the lights are off

yeah your headlights are off

most cars are

always on

the other vehicles don't have that

yeah I can turn mine completely off

yeah I know you can

but yeah

and some people will do that because they're so used to not having automatic headlights

that they shut it off

they overwrite it

but yeah there's

people are complaining

and they give

a lot of warning

I was just curious

so let

I can explain the can system to you too

I have a assignment

I need the sign

she wants this one it's the original

I mean I've had

I just needed the original

so give me warnings

yeah we give warnings

we'll give warnings for headlights

we'll give warnings for speed

I mean I hate to have to run you

if you ain't gonna give me a warning

so something really interesting about our can system

especially when

what we have to do

when we run everything over here

and then we gotta go and input it over here

when we put all that information into the system

it keeps record

of those warnings that people get

when they get a warning warning warning warning

after about the fourth warning

hey you need to replace your headlight

you're gonna get a citation

yeah right

so you can come back

and say this is our fourth warning

the fall okay

you've already had three or four warnings

for running a stop sign

in the middle of the school zone

with children present

they don't like that one too much

I wouldn't say you have too many warnings

oh not on that one

no

especially when

school is going

but

Bobby Joe

and Ross

are scheduled for their training as well in December

for Coroner

I'm scheduled in December for Coroner

the 29th of this month

I have to go to hell on the

to become the senior operator

on our Intoxylizer

so

that way we can

stay up to date with the state on

the Intoxylizer

and

basically Intoxylizer will do the

that's what we have to use for our DUIs

it gives the print out

so then that way

Logan and Ben and

the judge they all have their original print outs

where they have a copy of the original print out

and it's filed with the state as well

so

it was either go for one day

or take off for a week in September

so I opted for the one day class

so that's how it all worked out

but

then that and I think

the fair went off without a hitch

there so

I do know that I need to sit down with the fair board

to figure out what some of their rules

are going to potentially be for next year

because

they were already asking if we were the ones

that were

supposed to be collecting money for camping

or

I got a complaint that

we're not allowed to be near the beer gardens

because it's considered entrapment

that was one

and then another complaint that

the deputies were outside the beer gardens

but from what I was

explained is

the reason we're down there during

the concerts and everything like that

near the beer garden is

Daniels County carries the insurance on it

and they're not allowed to have alcohol outside

the beer garden area

and so it's just a reminder hey

step back inside the gates you can't have alcohol

out here

but apparently

that's another complaint you guys would probably get

you're so hardcore

hardcore

well I witnessed

one of your deputies I think

sweating

the best

damn I felt sorry for him

did you bring me water?

I was going to throw water at him

he was just bringing a beer but he couldn't go out of the gates

he wouldn't let me go

I felt sorry

I sat down and watched him and he

Jesus

they get warm in there

underneath that body armor when it's negative 20

some guy

some friend must have walked up and told him

are you hot under there?

they get

it gets pretty warm

it's pretty warm underneath there

that's where

the floor we put in the waterproof

in the

I guess you would call it staying

puke proof or whatever

flooring down

in there

put it down in a glue down square so the net way

if for some apparent reason

it doesn't get damaged it's a matter of

feeling it up and putting another one right back down

in this place

don't call anybody else in

to do it

I'm still waiting

on the status of the cell door

I saw

Gavin I almost said Logan

I saw Gavin over the weekend

and I asked him

he was busy trying to

race his car

in the derby

so I didn't really get much of an answer

but

it's been a while hasn't it

I think it was in paint

last time he told me it was getting ready to be installed

so is everything up but the door?

or no

this guy we got to breathe in

the whole cell all of us

it's all

it comes in pieces

so

end of bed

somewhere to sit

I'm going to go steal that out of Flaxville

yeah I said steal that out of Flaxville

she said it's everything

out of them

you can take the bed out of it

get one out of the museum grounds

well some of it mentioned that too

I think it's kind of neat over there in that museum

might as well feel good

twin sister sitting over there in Flaxville

it's not even bolted down

it's not like we own it

we might as well bring it and utilize it

I think it'd be kind of good to have

yeah but if you strip it it's going to be hard to sell

it's already a cell

I knew you were going to say something

it's already a cell

let's go

but